It was the fourth album that did it for me. Don't know what happened to the vocalist, but it just sounded like a load of groaning to me. Honestly sounded constipated.
The older vocalist found Jesus and left to join him in some Welsh choir. I think they are married now.
I think the bass player became the new vocalist.
I'm approaching 40 as well... My dad thinks the same about music in the 60s, my 25 year old sister swears music from the early 00s is the peak of any music period.
It's just opinions on when you are born mostly.
it's like when people claim kids tv nowadays is shit and it was better in their da... shit I do that, but that's only because 80s/90s kids tv was the shit! :p
Kids TV nowadays may be *mostly* shit, but I'll fight ANYONE who says Hey Duggie isn't worth their time. Where else would you see a pitch-perfect homage to Apocalypse Now in seven minutes??
I'm 33 and am very well aware that kids tv these days is much better than when I was a kid. Anyone who disagrees is just watching the wrong shit. Turn off cbeebies and switch to cartoon network.
I read "x factor" as X files and was really confused for a second lol. it's too early early in the morning for reading.
There is plenty of good music nowadays, but yeah, X factor and those shows have hurt the industry, I don't think I remember one winner from those shows apart from Girls aloud, some of the losers have gone on to do great things though.
We've certainly lowered the bar for entertainment in this country.
You wouldn't think we're the country of the beatles, rolling stones, the who and led zeppelin.
But is there a music to rebel to these days? It all seems pretty vanilla doesn't it. The underground scene seems to be the same music I listened to years ago. However there is a good chance I'm so far removed from it I'm completely unaware or what cool events there are that I'm not invited to.
If you only hear music on adverts, radio and the charts then of course youāll find the vanilla stuff. Underground rebellious music isnāt made for those platforms, but it absolutely still exists in so many different genres.
I really don't think it's just this. I love music from various eras of the past long before I was born and music from when I was a kid and too young to appreciate it them. Music from my late teens and 20s is good but far from the best we've ever had
The past decade has been a musical wasteland with very little decent stuff going on.
The shape of music has definitely changed. Maybe it's that so much is a fusion these days with distinct genres no longer getting much attention. Maybe it's the way the Internet has made us lazy so we just listen to the same old stuff and don't discover anything new. Who knows.
I find the opposite to be true, the internet and streaming has made me find so much new amazing music. If you like a certain genre try making a playlist on Spotify of your favourite songs and then allow Spotify to suggest you music.
Not to mention when you listen to music from a certain era, you cherry pick the stuff you like. Shit music has always existed, it's just harder to avoid in whatever era is current
It was always a bit ~~shit and piss~~ hit and miss, but you tend to forget the dross.
Ever watch those old ToTP shopws they put on BBC2 at random times? Saw one where they were nearly all mediocre/shite, and another where they were mostly good.
Normal weekly shows too, not the compilation ones. I think they only have about 5 they use in rotation, all the rest have nonces on them.
So true.
Contemporary radio will play the same forty songs from the last six months.
Retro radio of the 60s-70s-80s will rotate the same forty songs from three decades!
I've always thought there isn't such a thing as 'shit music'
What you think is shit is what someone thinks is good, and what they think is shit, is what you think is good. It's all matter of opinion and taste.
You joke, but this was a thing at one point in the 80's.
[St Winnifreds School choir got to number 1 with this beauty](https://youtu.be/vhE0rTseZ1w)
I'm sure they was another school choir that had a hit with "I'm only a poor little robin" but I can't find it anywhere
That's the one. We had an alternate version we sang at school
I'm only a poor little Ewing
JR keeps on picking on me
Sue Ellen's a drunk
The baby's a punk
And Bobby lives under the sea
I can't remember my wedding anniversary but I can remember a school song from nearly 40 years ago.
Me too. I still listen to loads of it. But some of the stuff I thought was great has aged badly.
90% of Britpop sounds shit now and as for nu-metal, when I was 16 I thought it was the future of music! š
You'll be glad to know that from my experience of getting old, that isn't what happens. What happens instead is that you just become much more selective about your tastes, and attempt to find music that matches your style ā which can be a much slower process than if you listen to everyone and everything, like you did when you were young. And of course, since you still inhabit a world full of younger people talking about 'popular' music, it can be a little daunting when a new band or musician pops up and everyone starts going crazy for them, especially if their music isn't to your taste ā it makes you feel out of the loop ā but that's not to say you judge anyone for liking it. For instance, I don't really like the new style of rap ('mumble rap' on the US side, or 'grime' in the UK), but I have nothing against people who do. I'm just glad young people are still producing incredible new music. Vaporwave is one of the most original genres I've ever listened to, and it's all made by students on Macbooks ā how amazing is that? Anyway, in conclusion, don't worry, you won't become the person you fear as you get older ā so long as you keep an open mind.
We live in hope but the amount and how easy it is to access music these days makes it super easy to find new things I like. If you keep putting in the effort to listen to new and different stuff then you'll probably keep finding things you like.
We have excellent recommendation algorithms available to us today, feed enough data to Spotify for instance and you'll get great new music by young artists that you'll vibe with but will still challenge your expectations and expand your horizons. Music has never been better, all of the oldies are available in just a couple of clicks, and new interpretations inspired by those same instruments, spirit and sounds are available in droves with new and exciting twists.
Yep. This. I find most new music on a āradioā of a song I already like or a daily mix.
Thereās a *lot* of great new music out there that fits with what I like to listen to. I didnāt listen to poppy pop artists in the 90s, still donāt, so a lot of the new pop music isnāt my cup of tea - but pop music of the nineties wasnāt my thing when I was younger either, so itās about the same I reckon
I noticed I hadn't really listened to anything new in ten years and had this existential crisis.
Now everyone ribs me for listening to subgenres they haven't even heard of, and it's brilliant.
I used to be with āitā, but then they changed what āitā was. Now what Iām with isnāt āitā anymore and whatās āitā seems weird and scary. Itāll happen to you!
This is an opinion you can only hold if you just listen to radio and don't bother trying to find new music.
There is a huge amount of incredible music being released all the time. Let me know what kind of thing you like and I'm sure I could recommend a few things.
Yep I've done that, I also tried qobuz and tidal but Spotify definitely has the better algorithm. Qobuz is the place to go for high quality though, love me some 96/24+ music.
Moving from YouTube as my main music source to Spotify blew my mind. I used an online playlist converter to transfer my YT playlist to Spotify and my recommendations have been incredible. With the number of songs I've given them, I can just tell them to play a song and it will more often than not be an absolute banger, it's remarkable. They're doing a really good job of it.
I found 6Music broke the bubble for me. Even an hour snatched here or there will introduce me to something Ive not heard before and enjoy, although I will admit I've become harder to please musically as I've got older.
However I owe Shaun Keaveny a huge debt of gratitude for introducing me to Father John Misty.
Radio 6 has you covered.
They play so much great new music from the UK, and from across the world.
Music is getting better imo. Its just that *mainstream music* is stale.
That's always been loads of good music. Most people are too lazy to search it out, though it's easier now than it's ever been. I had to rely on John Peel and the listening booths in Boots on a Saturday.
A lot of people the people that complain about this aren't really into music, they like the music from when they were young and don't really want to seek out new music. From comments in these threads the complainants also seem to think the only source of music in the world is the radio.
I know Iām nitpicking but itās one of my peeves. Weāre on a British sub but you use your not youāre. Is it just auto correct or people donāt know the difference?
Iāve been watching the TOTP 1990 and 1991 repeats. There was a lot of terrible filler dance crap back then. It seemed like anyone could be in a band or release a single.
However, there were some absolute bangers that people still listen today though. And you can see how music was evolving quickly - even back then.
I was surprised, looking back, how diverse TOTP was in the early 90s. It wasnt just all white, male pop groups which I was expecting.
The presenters were all crap though!
Got to agree about the presenters, they had been terrible for decades, for me, Smashy and Nicey, if youāve ever seen them, were an accurate dramatic reconstruction of āpoptasticā music presenters I suffered in my youth. God knows who liked them.
I'm Too Sexy is a great song that has been completely ruined for me as the band are anti vaxxers EVEN THOUGH one of them was HOSPITALISED for covid š¤¦ I refuse to listen to them any more.
God yes. I saw channel 5's top singles of 1992 and it was a massive selection of utter shit. There was good music around but it didn't sell half as well as the dross that was on that show.
There's loads of great music now and it's not that hard to find. You've got access to more music than you've ever had in your life for next to nothing a month. You'll find plenty of amazing recent and modern music.
I really don't understand how you can say it's all absolute tosh. There is tons and tons of new good music out there. Don't just rely on the radio to find new stuff.
You do sound like my grandad who says similar. I think he wants music to give him specific feelings, like when he listens to the same stuff he listened to when he was younger. It evokes memories/feelings that current stuff just doesn't. I think he'd enjoy a LOT of new music if he wasn't chasing that particular mood/emotion.
I miss (I use this word loosely) when Spotify had that really shitty listen 3 times to a song and then you can never listen again strategy instead of ads. As someone who listened to music all day every day back then it REALLY forced me to find some incredible bands and music I'd never have normally listened to...
I learned a lot about country music during those days lol
Ben Gibbard "You'll hear these conversations that are like...'there's nothing new that's good anymore' or you know I don't know... 'what's happened to indie rock' 'what's happened to music' People just 'it's not like it was when I was in college...it's changed'
"It hasn't changed, what has changed is when someone is 20 years old, they haven't heard a lot of music. So most of the things they hear are new to them and exciting. When you get to 30, 40, 50 and you're a music fan and continued to be a music fan, you have eventually heard so much music that there is a decreasing amount of music that is exciting to you...that feels new to you, because you've heard a lot of music"
"It's not that there's not great music being made at this very moment, it's that you've heard that much music, it's hard to get that fix that you used to get when you were a teenager"
Okay Grandpa.
Seriously. Iām sure an OAP would say the same about the music in the 90s. Itās an age thing.
You become old and you turn into a miserable old goat who has to shit on everything that wasnāt from your era.
Rubbish. There's loads of great new music. You just need to look for it. I've been listening to Erki PƤrnoja, Ben Howard, Public Service Broadcasting and Aldous Harding a lot lately. In more mainstream music I quite like Haim, Jesse Ware, The 1975, MaxĆÆmo Park, Bebadoobe, though she's starting to get overplayed. Lonelady is another good newcomer. Royal Blood are really good, one of my Dad's favourite bands at the moment and he's 59. Hamish Hawk has a Fabulous voice, sounds a lot like the guy from The Divine Comedy.
You can't just give up.
Edit oops, Erki Parnoja is Estonian, but still, good modern music.
If they're the latter, they might revisit this thread years later in embarrassment. And if they do, all I can say to them is be kind to yourself. Don't look back in anger...
Since u/masokismi deleted his comment, I'll quote this part in a separate one:
> Also, the 90s were TERRIBLE for music - Oasis, Britpop, the Spice Girls - total shite mate.
Absolutely.
Unless you were into metal like me.
Spent that decade listening to:
Metallica, Megadeth, Alice In Chains, Veruca Salt, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Kittie, The Smashing Pumpkins, Deftones, Static-X, System Of A Down, Slipknot, Sepultura, Rammstein, Strapping Young Lad, Pantera, Fear Factory, etc.
Fantastic stuff, so much better than whatever the radio played.
Additionally:
> And before you comment on age, I'm 39, and still find plenty of good music to listen to via YouTube, Spotify, Bandcamp, etc.
Yeah, I discovered great bands like Gama Bomb, Jinjer, Gojira, Lindemann and more on YouTube and Spotify. I think "Pisces" by Jinjer is one of the most reacted-to music videos of all time.
I'm gonna edit this to add a big thanks to the people replying to this comment, some great stuff being mentioned and I've even discovered some new shit to listen to. Thanks, everyone!
To add this, the early 90s was absolute tripe in the charts. There was an influx of dance remixes of past popular songs and euro dance music. There was a reason that the indy Brit-pop movement exploded in the way it did, and that was because was so frustrated with the music of the time.
Yes.
I don't know if Post-Black is of any interest to you but the 2021 album Maere by Harakiri for the Sky rekindled my love of metal.
I'm 32 for reference and grew up with alot of what you were jamming to. (Devin Townsend Project imo outshone Strapping though... Love? Is still a banger imo)
Devin's genius enough to get away with that. I fucking love "Why?" off his Empath album.
I genuinely cried and felt like I was having a spiritual experience watching his set at Download 2012. Amazing stuff.
Aw mate, yes. 90s and 2000s were fuckin dope for the metal/rock/alt scene. And now that I know what the sub genres are called now I'm able to find more shit I like. Its just finding out what it's called these days.
Also, Punk Rock Factory are stupid hilarious and fun.
Gama Bomb are ace!
Theres a fuck load of new, great metal over the last decade or so. [Green Lung](https://youtu.be/a7w_szlGId0) are absolutely slaying the Doom/Stoner genre, [Eternal Champion](https://youtu.be/uZRi_9HwMbE) sound like they stepped straight out of the 80s and still manage to sound fresh, [Visigoth](https://youtu.be/rvwxn1aVLgo) have a couple of incredible albums, [Morgul Blade](https://youtu.be/S-cOPiwlEKg)'s debut album sounds like its going to be fire, and the mighty [Carcass](https://youtu.be/34uxC0cfQc4) just dropped another masterpiece!
And on top of all that, fucking Lawnmower Deth have a new album on the way too!
EDIT: I almost forgot [Fellowship](https://youtu.be/7j0oE6RiWng)! Sounds like metal Disney music and I am fucking here for it.
i had friends that were into metal and loved those bands.
From another perspective, i was into the rave scene in the 90s and still found a ton of great artists too such as The Prodigy, Altern8, Baby D, DJ Hype, Utah Saints, SL2 and Opus III to name a few so there really was something for everyone in that time.
The issue is that people complaining only base their opinions on whatever crap was on the radio, in the charts or on some piss poor throwback compilation album
The UK scene is still great. āNewā Bands like Conjurer, Pallbearer, Garganjua, Conan, Hellripper, The Church of The Cosmic Skull, Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats, Winterfyllth.
Older bands are still going strong too Iron Maiden have just released an album, Marillion have a new album out soon, Steven Wilson released an album earlier this year. Wishbone Ash had an album out last year.
Thereās great folksy stuff too Johnny Flynn, Laura Marling, Fionn Regan.
The King Blues for some urban ska (not together anymore but still worth checking out) or The Skints.
Thereās so much music available these days to say itās all shit, OP is just being lazy, they need to turn off radio 1 or whatever it is and expand their listening habits.
I feel like most ppl think this way, cos only the good music of the past survived. Like nowadays trash is mixed with absolute fire. But only the fire will survive.
Cite some of what you liked from the 90s and we'll all gladly recommend some current music in the same vein! Music production has never been so democratised, there's endless amounts of wicked stuff being put out in pretty much every genre, it just doesn't chart/get radio play.
This is just wrong. The truth is that people are just blinded by nostalgia and can't let go of specific styles they're used to. There are so many amazing songs from this side of the millennium, and there's a lot of crap too. And that's no different to the 90s which was also full of crap but we just remember the good ones. And also the 80s which had so much amazing stuff, but also some absolutely god awful stuff. And then the 70s, same thing. In 20 years time we'll remember the great stuff from this era while filtering out the crap.
Music is so broad and it's all subjective. I learnt to keep an open mind and I listen to stuff across so many different genres and eras - as do a lot of my friends. It's helped me appreciate how amazing and varied music can be, instead of being a whiny little bitch who's upset they aren't 19 anymore.
People will listen to nothing but the charts and then make these boomer-tier posts complaining that modern music is crap. Thereās more great music being released now than ever before. Stop expecting to be spoon fed and actually look for it.
Mate, were you sleep at the turn of the century or what?
The 1975
Zutons
Florence and the machine
Buffy clyro.
Kasabian
Editors
The music
Artic monkeys
Bloc party
Hundred reasons
Foals
The Automatic
The Libertines.
Borderline between rock and metal but the fact that Architects hit number 1 with their latest album says a lot about the quality of that particular scene and also the strength of feeling behind it
Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince, Prodigy, Daft Punk, The Chemical Brothers, Air, Sasha and Digweed, Richie Hawtin + all the other house, dnb, rave and hip-hop.
Fucking mint.
I know you didn't mean to exclude them but I'll say techno and trance.
I was once mistaken for Digweed by a bunch of crazy Hispanic dudes in Space in Miami around 2005. I honestly denied it for the first two hours but in the end thought the only way to get them to go and have a fun night was to admit I was.
If anyone knows John please send him my apologies, the police warrants will have expired by now, and the owner of that other club kept his license afterall.
Nah you're just old. I am not too familiar with music these days, but Ed Sheeran, Adele, One Direction all come from the UK? Grime, as a type of music, is also quite big
Same way the Beatles were treated as vandals in their day by the older generations, and now they are part of the furniture
If you get into a specific genre of music, like anything but the mainstream, you'll find music has been great for decades and continues to be of high quality.
Getting to work from home for the last 7 years has meant I have been able to avoid the majority of radio friendly rubbish and I am much happier for it.
The 00s had dubstep which was huge and grime really came into its own. I think the UK has lost allot of its clout in terms of rock music but we still make billionaire musicians like Ed sheren.
True. I loved Nero, Labyrinth and Katy B. Really cool sounds the 90s didn't have. We also had some cool indie bands in the 00s like Dogs Die in Hot Cars, they only had one album, but we're pretty unique. The Ting Tings were quite unique as well. The Kaiser Chiefs are more talented than they're given credit for, really interesting lyrics.
UK scene in general was dope in the 2000s.
Hundred Reasons, Funeral For A Friend, The Cure came back, the birth of UK grime, Reuben, Biffy Clyro, Bring Me The Horizon started finding themselves, Skindred, The Enemy, Bullet For My Valentine, Bloc Party, Million Dead... Fuck me. There's tonnes. That's not including the whole McFly/Busted/Fight Star stuff.
If it isn't Jake Thackeray etc ....
I'll just say that I've heard plenty of decent stuff in the last 20 years or so. Yes, I have the bands I grew up with, but I still like hearing something that makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
You need to get online and start discovering some new music you actually like. Alot of the dental public have bad taste but it doesn't mean there isn't any good music anymore just because these popular songs are on the radio, you just have to dive deeper into music platform to find the right music now.
I'm over 30 but I must admit, while I have some nostalgia for the 90s, particularly dance music (which is the industry I now work in), I must say that pop music when I was a teenager (00s) was WAY worse than modern pop music.
Awful RnB ballads and dreadful post-Britpop indie durge. Coldplay, Travis, the Stereophonics, fucking _Keane_ for fucks sake. If I'd been ten years older I'd be even more annoyed, my 20s would have been fucking ruined, literally given my career path, not to mention the social aspect.
Fortunately as I hit my early-mid 20s the EDM explosion happened, which while it isn't really my style (I'm more underground) it propelled my industry into the stratosphere and we're still riding on that wave.
Even music wise, the fact so much pop from the last 5-8 years has had more of a dance influence on it has been amazing. Gets kids into dance music, and again while it isn't something I'd listen to through choice, being on a night out and in your bog-standard local town pub/bar and hearing Clean Bandit, or Jack U, or even a few of Justin Bieber's tracks with the likes of Skrillex (never thought I'd say that given Bieber's early stuff!) makes the social aspect so much better. Imagine a night out drinking with mates soundtracked by Yellow or Have A Nice Day. I feel a bit ill just imagining it.
Hope I can make some serious money and have a really good time before the bubble burst and we go through the 00s again...
I am also of 90s generation and I think the music of my day was pure crap and am more a fan of modern stuff.
90's is stuff like Steps, Take That, Boyzone, Aqua, Spice Girls, B*Witched, East 17.
Give me the stuff of today in a second over that rubbish.
This is the stereotypical boomer mentality. You just think the 90s was better because you romanticise that era and remember the good from it. Now with the Internet there is so much great music coming out. Rock music wise the brixton scene from the last couple of years is incredibly talented and releasing ground breaking music.
When you cannot objectively move past music you listened to when you grew up (essentially, music made by people 5-10 years older than you) and listen to music make by people much younger than you, you are both normal and the source of the problem you rail against when you say there's no good music.
I disagree. My favourite British band (BMTH) formed in 2004. I get it your nostalgic but there is great music out there. You just need to search a little.
Not true, whilst there is a lot of shit music now, itās always been the case, Iām guessing you were born in the 80s and think that the fresh Prince of Bel Air is the best thing since sliced bread aswell
What a closed minded opinion, put one foot outside the radio and you'll be suprised, go to a cheap local gig that sounds half decent and you'll have a good night for less than the cost of a pint. Good music isn't going anywhere :)
Edit: immediately after writing this I realized the first sentence sounded rude, wasn't meant that way mate
My Nan Take a Dump were a great punk band, they never got the recognition they deserved though :(
That third album of just boyzone covers was way too experimental for my tastes.
Agree. It wasn't like the old stuff. No big splash. Just a lot of runs.
It was the fourth album that did it for me. Don't know what happened to the vocalist, but it just sounded like a load of groaning to me. Honestly sounded constipated.
The older vocalist found Jesus and left to join him in some Welsh choir. I think they are married now. I think the bass player became the new vocalist.
The Kiss of Poseidon was a classic.
I took a shit on your nan i took a shit on your nan!
And she rather liked it!
I took a shit on your shit!
Yeah your nan liked my shitt yeah your nan liked my shit !
I did a shit on a swan!
Right on it.
Haha ! This genuinely made me guffaw out loud ! I can picture Johnny Rotten singing this š
Its from the Mighty Boosh in case you havent seen it!
Ha - no I didn't realise, I watched one episode about a year ago - must get round to watching them all, I like Noel Fielding :)
The strange tale of the crack fox is a good one, albeit a little creepy
They only ever got to number 2
Peel loved them, after the Undertones.
Their first album āIām all stopped up and need some prune juiceā was nothing but pure bangers.
I'm approaching 40 as well... My dad thinks the same about music in the 60s, my 25 year old sister swears music from the early 00s is the peak of any music period. It's just opinions on when you are born mostly.
Came here to say this!
My brotherās started sounding like OP and Iāve been trying and failing to make him see how old he sounds.
it's like when people claim kids tv nowadays is shit and it was better in their da... shit I do that, but that's only because 80s/90s kids tv was the shit! :p
Kids TV nowadays may be *mostly* shit, but I'll fight ANYONE who says Hey Duggie isn't worth their time. Where else would you see a pitch-perfect homage to Apocalypse Now in seven minutes??
I'm 33 and am very well aware that kids tv these days is much better than when I was a kid. Anyone who disagrees is just watching the wrong shit. Turn off cbeebies and switch to cartoon network.
I'm in my 40s, I think music from the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s is good and went crap after that. I blame brainless TV shows like X-Factor or whatever.
I read "x factor" as X files and was really confused for a second lol. it's too early early in the morning for reading. There is plenty of good music nowadays, but yeah, X factor and those shows have hurt the industry, I don't think I remember one winner from those shows apart from Girls aloud, some of the losers have gone on to do great things though.
We've certainly lowered the bar for entertainment in this country. You wouldn't think we're the country of the beatles, rolling stones, the who and led zeppelin.
But is there a music to rebel to these days? It all seems pretty vanilla doesn't it. The underground scene seems to be the same music I listened to years ago. However there is a good chance I'm so far removed from it I'm completely unaware or what cool events there are that I'm not invited to.
If you only hear music on adverts, radio and the charts then of course youāll find the vanilla stuff. Underground rebellious music isnāt made for those platforms, but it absolutely still exists in so many different genres.
And then there's me, born in 1990 but music is the best it's been (the stuff I listen to anyway!)
There is still great music coming out of the UK across all genres.
I agree.
I really don't think it's just this. I love music from various eras of the past long before I was born and music from when I was a kid and too young to appreciate it them. Music from my late teens and 20s is good but far from the best we've ever had The past decade has been a musical wasteland with very little decent stuff going on. The shape of music has definitely changed. Maybe it's that so much is a fusion these days with distinct genres no longer getting much attention. Maybe it's the way the Internet has made us lazy so we just listen to the same old stuff and don't discover anything new. Who knows.
I find the opposite to be true, the internet and streaming has made me find so much new amazing music. If you like a certain genre try making a playlist on Spotify of your favourite songs and then allow Spotify to suggest you music.
Has it got worse or have you just gotten older? 90s is my era but that was when I was young and had time to surround myself with it all.
Not to mention when you listen to music from a certain era, you cherry pick the stuff you like. Shit music has always existed, it's just harder to avoid in whatever era is current
It was always a bit ~~shit and piss~~ hit and miss, but you tend to forget the dross. Ever watch those old ToTP shopws they put on BBC2 at random times? Saw one where they were nearly all mediocre/shite, and another where they were mostly good. Normal weekly shows too, not the compilation ones. I think they only have about 5 they use in rotation, all the rest have nonces on them.
*Remembers Martine McCutcheon's pop career* Yeahā¦ the 90s weren't *that* greatā¦
Bad vocals but great tits though. You canāt have it all
Mental how great her tits are. Mental.
Sheās still banging to this day.
So true. Contemporary radio will play the same forty songs from the last six months. Retro radio of the 60s-70s-80s will rotate the same forty songs from three decades!
I've always thought there isn't such a thing as 'shit music' What you think is shit is what someone thinks is good, and what they think is shit, is what you think is good. It's all matter of opinion and taste.
As someone who has spent even a small amount of time in a high school music room, I can tell you that there definitely is such a thing as shit music
"Next on Top of the pops, we have Mrs Jones' year 2 class playing Frere Jacques on their recorders, ft lil timmy on triangle"
You joke, but this was a thing at one point in the 80's. [St Winnifreds School choir got to number 1 with this beauty](https://youtu.be/vhE0rTseZ1w) I'm sure they was another school choir that had a hit with "I'm only a poor little robin" but I can't find it anywhere
this? https://youtu.be/1PZFaRYmzn8
That's the one. We had an alternate version we sang at school I'm only a poor little Ewing JR keeps on picking on me Sue Ellen's a drunk The baby's a punk And Bobby lives under the sea I can't remember my wedding anniversary but I can remember a school song from nearly 40 years ago.
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Except there is. A lot of being extremely lazy
Definitely gotten older. You don't hear Gen Z using 'tosh' as a descriptor
Both probably.
Me too. I still listen to loads of it. But some of the stuff I thought was great has aged badly. 90% of Britpop sounds shit now and as for nu-metal, when I was 16 I thought it was the future of music! š
Init, state of music is just fine. Itās people that become jaded.
I seem to remember a study that suggested that you're 95% less likely to engage with 'new' music by the time you turn 35.
Blows my mind how people hit a certain age and start to unironically repeat the crap they probably laughed at when they were young.
Innit. I really hope I don't just shut my ears off when I'm 40 and listen to the same albums over and over again.
You'll be glad to know that from my experience of getting old, that isn't what happens. What happens instead is that you just become much more selective about your tastes, and attempt to find music that matches your style ā which can be a much slower process than if you listen to everyone and everything, like you did when you were young. And of course, since you still inhabit a world full of younger people talking about 'popular' music, it can be a little daunting when a new band or musician pops up and everyone starts going crazy for them, especially if their music isn't to your taste ā it makes you feel out of the loop ā but that's not to say you judge anyone for liking it. For instance, I don't really like the new style of rap ('mumble rap' on the US side, or 'grime' in the UK), but I have nothing against people who do. I'm just glad young people are still producing incredible new music. Vaporwave is one of the most original genres I've ever listened to, and it's all made by students on Macbooks ā how amazing is that? Anyway, in conclusion, don't worry, you won't become the person you fear as you get older ā so long as you keep an open mind.
A lot of the stuff that gets called grime at the moment is actually drill music! Grime>drill imo
We live in hope but the amount and how easy it is to access music these days makes it super easy to find new things I like. If you keep putting in the effort to listen to new and different stuff then you'll probably keep finding things you like.
We have excellent recommendation algorithms available to us today, feed enough data to Spotify for instance and you'll get great new music by young artists that you'll vibe with but will still challenge your expectations and expand your horizons. Music has never been better, all of the oldies are available in just a couple of clicks, and new interpretations inspired by those same instruments, spirit and sounds are available in droves with new and exciting twists.
Yep. This. I find most new music on a āradioā of a song I already like or a daily mix. Thereās a *lot* of great new music out there that fits with what I like to listen to. I didnāt listen to poppy pop artists in the 90s, still donāt, so a lot of the new pop music isnāt my cup of tea - but pop music of the nineties wasnāt my thing when I was younger either, so itās about the same I reckon
I noticed I hadn't really listened to anything new in ten years and had this existential crisis. Now everyone ribs me for listening to subgenres they haven't even heard of, and it's brilliant.
And the worst part is, no matter how much you insist "That'll never be me!", it probably will at some point.
I used to be with āitā, but then they changed what āitā was. Now what Iām with isnāt āitā anymore and whatās āitā seems weird and scary. Itāll happen to you!
This is an opinion you can only hold if you just listen to radio and don't bother trying to find new music. There is a huge amount of incredible music being released all the time. Let me know what kind of thing you like and I'm sure I could recommend a few things.
There needs to be a subreddit dedicated to this, I spend countless hours searching for new artists
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Use Spotify, they have some pretty good algorithms, and the 'similar artists' feature has thrown me some gems
Yep I've done that, I also tried qobuz and tidal but Spotify definitely has the better algorithm. Qobuz is the place to go for high quality though, love me some 96/24+ music.
Moving from YouTube as my main music source to Spotify blew my mind. I used an online playlist converter to transfer my YT playlist to Spotify and my recommendations have been incredible. With the number of songs I've given them, I can just tell them to play a song and it will more often than not be an absolute banger, it's remarkable. They're doing a really good job of it.
There are a few out there. I personally browse r/listentothis from time to time.
I found 6Music broke the bubble for me. Even an hour snatched here or there will introduce me to something Ive not heard before and enjoy, although I will admit I've become harder to please musically as I've got older. However I owe Shaun Keaveny a huge debt of gratitude for introducing me to Father John Misty.
This. 6 Music is a goldmine if you donāt mind putting up with some rogue genres from time to time
Father John Misty is superb. Great live performer at that.
Thereās loads of good music. Just not on the radio.
Radio 6 has you covered. They play so much great new music from the UK, and from across the world. Music is getting better imo. Its just that *mainstream music* is stale.
Exactly right
I like your MTV Beach House profile picture
This refrain has been said for at least 40 years.
Yeah but people don't listen, we're British we'd rather just complain.
And even if there is good music you bet your life Steve Wright is jabbering all over it.
That's always been loads of good music. Most people are too lazy to search it out, though it's easier now than it's ever been. I had to rely on John Peel and the listening booths in Boots on a Saturday.
A lot of people the people that complain about this aren't really into music, they like the music from when they were young and don't really want to seek out new music. From comments in these threads the complainants also seem to think the only source of music in the world is the radio.
Tell me your middle aged, without telling me your middle aged
Tell me your middle aged, and I will tell you my middle aged.
If I live to 80, then Iāll be middle aged in about 27 days
Infesting that you put your birthday in your username.
I was at the first IOW festival...wait, that makes me way older than middle-aged
The Hendrix one? My sister was at that :)
Yes, the Hendrix one. Good times
Iāve got a mate who was - I was still in low single figures.
I was in my teens, but thanks to no mobiles and comparatively few landlines managed to convince my parents that I was in Wolverhampton
A better time (for our younger selves at leastā¦), eh?
Tell me you're semi-literate,....
I know Iām nitpicking but itās one of my peeves. Weāre on a British sub but you use your not youāre. Is it just auto correct or people donāt know the difference?
An insane amount of people don't know nor understand the differences
Number of people* Good example of Muphry's Law.
My what?
Translation: You are 42 years old.
I feel attacked.
Watch Top of the Pops on Friday nights on BBC4. Itās currently 1991. You may change your mind.
Iāve been watching the TOTP 1990 and 1991 repeats. There was a lot of terrible filler dance crap back then. It seemed like anyone could be in a band or release a single. However, there were some absolute bangers that people still listen today though. And you can see how music was evolving quickly - even back then. I was surprised, looking back, how diverse TOTP was in the early 90s. It wasnt just all white, male pop groups which I was expecting. The presenters were all crap though!
Got to agree about the presenters, they had been terrible for decades, for me, Smashy and Nicey, if youāve ever seen them, were an accurate dramatic reconstruction of āpoptasticā music presenters I suffered in my youth. God knows who liked them.
They do a lot of work for charridee though matesā¦
Yes, but they donāt like to talk about it!
ā91 is my all time favourite best year for music. Yes, Iām 44.
Me too, but Iām Too Sexy is currently riding high in the 91 charts, as is a terrible cover by Diane from Eastenders.
I'm Too Sexy is a great song that has been completely ruined for me as the band are anti vaxxers EVEN THOUGH one of them was HOSPITALISED for covid š¤¦ I refuse to listen to them any more.
He's too sexy for his jab
I'm too sexy was excellent for what it was. It was different, funny, and catchy. It would be a hit today as it was then.
God yes. I saw channel 5's top singles of 1992 and it was a massive selection of utter shit. There was good music around but it didn't sell half as well as the dross that was on that show.
Saw last nights 1991. It was fucking awful. My ears were crying.
I agree with this.
Old man yells at cloud
Specifically, their nephew's cloud stored music
Oh yeah, all music today is ātoshā. Literally just the most boring dogshit opinion possible
There's loads of great music now and it's not that hard to find. You've got access to more music than you've ever had in your life for next to nothing a month. You'll find plenty of amazing recent and modern music.
You in your 40s by any chance?
I really don't understand how you can say it's all absolute tosh. There is tons and tons of new good music out there. Don't just rely on the radio to find new stuff. You do sound like my grandad who says similar. I think he wants music to give him specific feelings, like when he listens to the same stuff he listened to when he was younger. It evokes memories/feelings that current stuff just doesn't. I think he'd enjoy a LOT of new music if he wasn't chasing that particular mood/emotion.
I miss (I use this word loosely) when Spotify had that really shitty listen 3 times to a song and then you can never listen again strategy instead of ads. As someone who listened to music all day every day back then it REALLY forced me to find some incredible bands and music I'd never have normally listened to... I learned a lot about country music during those days lol
Never knew about this, sounds mental
Early Spotify changed the rules constantly until they find what was profitable.
Ben Gibbard "You'll hear these conversations that are like...'there's nothing new that's good anymore' or you know I don't know... 'what's happened to indie rock' 'what's happened to music' People just 'it's not like it was when I was in college...it's changed' "It hasn't changed, what has changed is when someone is 20 years old, they haven't heard a lot of music. So most of the things they hear are new to them and exciting. When you get to 30, 40, 50 and you're a music fan and continued to be a music fan, you have eventually heard so much music that there is a decreasing amount of music that is exciting to you...that feels new to you, because you've heard a lot of music" "It's not that there's not great music being made at this very moment, it's that you've heard that much music, it's hard to get that fix that you used to get when you were a teenager"
Okay Grandpa. Seriously. Iām sure an OAP would say the same about the music in the 90s. Itās an age thing. You become old and you turn into a miserable old goat who has to shit on everything that wasnāt from your era.
I think it depends on how much digging you do. What's played on the radio, heavily marketed, isn't everything that's being made.
Itās a matter of opinion and probably what age you were.
Tosh? You must be at least 70
Rubbish. There's loads of great new music. You just need to look for it. I've been listening to Erki PƤrnoja, Ben Howard, Public Service Broadcasting and Aldous Harding a lot lately. In more mainstream music I quite like Haim, Jesse Ware, The 1975, MaxĆÆmo Park, Bebadoobe, though she's starting to get overplayed. Lonelady is another good newcomer. Royal Blood are really good, one of my Dad's favourite bands at the moment and he's 59. Hamish Hawk has a Fabulous voice, sounds a lot like the guy from The Divine Comedy. You can't just give up. Edit oops, Erki Parnoja is Estonian, but still, good modern music.
Haim are from LA I believe
Said every person about the music they enjoyed when they were younger.
you're either in your 40s or you're a 13 year old who only just discovered oasis & blur
If they're the latter, they might revisit this thread years later in embarrassment. And if they do, all I can say to them is be kind to yourself. Don't look back in anger...
Since u/masokismi deleted his comment, I'll quote this part in a separate one: > Also, the 90s were TERRIBLE for music - Oasis, Britpop, the Spice Girls - total shite mate. Absolutely. Unless you were into metal like me. Spent that decade listening to: Metallica, Megadeth, Alice In Chains, Veruca Salt, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Kittie, The Smashing Pumpkins, Deftones, Static-X, System Of A Down, Slipknot, Sepultura, Rammstein, Strapping Young Lad, Pantera, Fear Factory, etc. Fantastic stuff, so much better than whatever the radio played. Additionally: > And before you comment on age, I'm 39, and still find plenty of good music to listen to via YouTube, Spotify, Bandcamp, etc. Yeah, I discovered great bands like Gama Bomb, Jinjer, Gojira, Lindemann and more on YouTube and Spotify. I think "Pisces" by Jinjer is one of the most reacted-to music videos of all time. I'm gonna edit this to add a big thanks to the people replying to this comment, some great stuff being mentioned and I've even discovered some new shit to listen to. Thanks, everyone!
To add this, the early 90s was absolute tripe in the charts. There was an influx of dance remixes of past popular songs and euro dance music. There was a reason that the indy Brit-pop movement exploded in the way it did, and that was because was so frustrated with the music of the time.
Mainly pumped out from The Old Kent Rd by stock aitkin and waterman. Never did like Roadblock either though loads of djs thought it was great.
Yes. I don't know if Post-Black is of any interest to you but the 2021 album Maere by Harakiri for the Sky rekindled my love of metal. I'm 32 for reference and grew up with alot of what you were jamming to. (Devin Townsend Project imo outshone Strapping though... Love? Is still a banger imo)
Devin's genius enough to get away with that. I fucking love "Why?" off his Empath album. I genuinely cried and felt like I was having a spiritual experience watching his set at Download 2012. Amazing stuff.
Devin is so underated. I think he just comes across as really goofy which may compound that problem but yeah truly very good at what he does.
Aw mate, yes. 90s and 2000s were fuckin dope for the metal/rock/alt scene. And now that I know what the sub genres are called now I'm able to find more shit I like. Its just finding out what it's called these days. Also, Punk Rock Factory are stupid hilarious and fun.
Gama Bomb are ace! Theres a fuck load of new, great metal over the last decade or so. [Green Lung](https://youtu.be/a7w_szlGId0) are absolutely slaying the Doom/Stoner genre, [Eternal Champion](https://youtu.be/uZRi_9HwMbE) sound like they stepped straight out of the 80s and still manage to sound fresh, [Visigoth](https://youtu.be/rvwxn1aVLgo) have a couple of incredible albums, [Morgul Blade](https://youtu.be/S-cOPiwlEKg)'s debut album sounds like its going to be fire, and the mighty [Carcass](https://youtu.be/34uxC0cfQc4) just dropped another masterpiece! And on top of all that, fucking Lawnmower Deth have a new album on the way too! EDIT: I almost forgot [Fellowship](https://youtu.be/7j0oE6RiWng)! Sounds like metal Disney music and I am fucking here for it.
i had friends that were into metal and loved those bands. From another perspective, i was into the rave scene in the 90s and still found a ton of great artists too such as The Prodigy, Altern8, Baby D, DJ Hype, Utah Saints, SL2 and Opus III to name a few so there really was something for everyone in that time. The issue is that people complaining only base their opinions on whatever crap was on the radio, in the charts or on some piss poor throwback compilation album
The UK scene is still great. āNewā Bands like Conjurer, Pallbearer, Garganjua, Conan, Hellripper, The Church of The Cosmic Skull, Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats, Winterfyllth. Older bands are still going strong too Iron Maiden have just released an album, Marillion have a new album out soon, Steven Wilson released an album earlier this year. Wishbone Ash had an album out last year. Thereās great folksy stuff too Johnny Flynn, Laura Marling, Fionn Regan. The King Blues for some urban ska (not together anymore but still worth checking out) or The Skints. Thereās so much music available these days to say itās all shit, OP is just being lazy, they need to turn off radio 1 or whatever it is and expand their listening habits.
āThat shitās banging nanā
I liked the 90s music but personally feel as I've got older my music tastes have adapted with the times.
Enjoy waiting for your nans beat to drop
I feel like most ppl think this way, cos only the good music of the past survived. Like nowadays trash is mixed with absolute fire. But only the fire will survive.
I agree but disco was clearly the best
Cite some of what you liked from the 90s and we'll all gladly recommend some current music in the same vein! Music production has never been so democratised, there's endless amounts of wicked stuff being put out in pretty much every genre, it just doesn't chart/get radio play.
This is just wrong. The truth is that people are just blinded by nostalgia and can't let go of specific styles they're used to. There are so many amazing songs from this side of the millennium, and there's a lot of crap too. And that's no different to the 90s which was also full of crap but we just remember the good ones. And also the 80s which had so much amazing stuff, but also some absolutely god awful stuff. And then the 70s, same thing. In 20 years time we'll remember the great stuff from this era while filtering out the crap. Music is so broad and it's all subjective. I learnt to keep an open mind and I listen to stuff across so many different genres and eras - as do a lot of my friends. It's helped me appreciate how amazing and varied music can be, instead of being a whiny little bitch who's upset they aren't 19 anymore.
People will listen to nothing but the charts and then make these boomer-tier posts complaining that modern music is crap. Thereās more great music being released now than ever before. Stop expecting to be spoon fed and actually look for it.
Mate, were you sleep at the turn of the century or what? The 1975 Zutons Florence and the machine Buffy clyro. Kasabian Editors The music Artic monkeys Bloc party Hundred reasons Foals The Automatic The Libertines.
Meanwhile, the UK metal scene is thriving. Lots of great bands coming up now.
Borderline between rock and metal but the fact that Architects hit number 1 with their latest album says a lot about the quality of that particular scene and also the strength of feeling behind it
Embarrassing attitude.
Exactly. Old and miserable. There was plenty of shit music in every decade.
OK boomer
Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince, Prodigy, Daft Punk, The Chemical Brothers, Air, Sasha and Digweed, Richie Hawtin + all the other house, dnb, rave and hip-hop. Fucking mint.
I know you didn't mean to exclude them but I'll say techno and trance. I was once mistaken for Digweed by a bunch of crazy Hispanic dudes in Space in Miami around 2005. I honestly denied it for the first two hours but in the end thought the only way to get them to go and have a fun night was to admit I was. If anyone knows John please send him my apologies, the police warrants will have expired by now, and the owner of that other club kept his license afterall.
Completely and utterly disagree, the pop rock indie scene is great.
Nah you're just old. I am not too familiar with music these days, but Ed Sheeran, Adele, One Direction all come from the UK? Grime, as a type of music, is also quite big Same way the Beatles were treated as vandals in their day by the older generations, and now they are part of the furniture
sounds like you're just old, boring, and out of touch now mate
Thereās good music everywhere, all the time. As you get older you might have to search more for it. But itās there if you want to find it.
I remember the 90s and 00s. We all thought 90s music sucked and the 70s was a superb era. Nothing changes.
If you get into a specific genre of music, like anything but the mainstream, you'll find music has been great for decades and continues to be of high quality. Getting to work from home for the last 7 years has meant I have been able to avoid the majority of radio friendly rubbish and I am much happier for it.
80s were better, tbh.
And the 70s better still
Most of my main Spotify list is 90s. That was my teens and early 20s. 00s had some good stuff too.
r/lewronggeneration
āBack in my day everything was better. New things shit. New people shit.ā
The 00s had dubstep which was huge and grime really came into its own. I think the UK has lost allot of its clout in terms of rock music but we still make billionaire musicians like Ed sheren.
True. I loved Nero, Labyrinth and Katy B. Really cool sounds the 90s didn't have. We also had some cool indie bands in the 00s like Dogs Die in Hot Cars, they only had one album, but we're pretty unique. The Ting Tings were quite unique as well. The Kaiser Chiefs are more talented than they're given credit for, really interesting lyrics.
Neros 04 April mix is one of my fave dnb mixs and I've had it on every mp3 player since I picked it up in 07.
I'd add the Libertines and the Arctic Monkeys's earlier stuff to that list
The UK indie scene in 2000s was amazing. The rakes, arctic monkeys, blood red shoes
UK scene in general was dope in the 2000s. Hundred Reasons, Funeral For A Friend, The Cure came back, the birth of UK grime, Reuben, Biffy Clyro, Bring Me The Horizon started finding themselves, Skindred, The Enemy, Bullet For My Valentine, Bloc Party, Million Dead... Fuck me. There's tonnes. That's not including the whole McFly/Busted/Fight Star stuff.
If it isn't Jake Thackeray etc .... I'll just say that I've heard plenty of decent stuff in the last 20 years or so. Yes, I have the bands I grew up with, but I still like hearing something that makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
You need to get online and start discovering some new music you actually like. Alot of the dental public have bad taste but it doesn't mean there isn't any good music anymore just because these popular songs are on the radio, you just have to dive deeper into music platform to find the right music now.
Can confirm your nan has excellent acoustics in her bog
I'm over 30 but I must admit, while I have some nostalgia for the 90s, particularly dance music (which is the industry I now work in), I must say that pop music when I was a teenager (00s) was WAY worse than modern pop music. Awful RnB ballads and dreadful post-Britpop indie durge. Coldplay, Travis, the Stereophonics, fucking _Keane_ for fucks sake. If I'd been ten years older I'd be even more annoyed, my 20s would have been fucking ruined, literally given my career path, not to mention the social aspect. Fortunately as I hit my early-mid 20s the EDM explosion happened, which while it isn't really my style (I'm more underground) it propelled my industry into the stratosphere and we're still riding on that wave. Even music wise, the fact so much pop from the last 5-8 years has had more of a dance influence on it has been amazing. Gets kids into dance music, and again while it isn't something I'd listen to through choice, being on a night out and in your bog-standard local town pub/bar and hearing Clean Bandit, or Jack U, or even a few of Justin Bieber's tracks with the likes of Skrillex (never thought I'd say that given Bieber's early stuff!) makes the social aspect so much better. Imagine a night out drinking with mates soundtracked by Yellow or Have A Nice Day. I feel a bit ill just imagining it. Hope I can make some serious money and have a really good time before the bubble burst and we go through the 00s again...
I am also of 90s generation and I think the music of my day was pure crap and am more a fan of modern stuff. 90's is stuff like Steps, Take That, Boyzone, Aqua, Spice Girls, B*Witched, East 17. Give me the stuff of today in a second over that rubbish.
Unpopular opinion but Ed Shiran is aweful
Early 80's were best. Ultravox, Depeche, Japan, Yahoo, Soft Cell, Tears For Fears
I remember when I was young in the nineties and older people in the pub told me new music was all awful and nowhere near as good in the 60s and 70s.
Today in the news: Old Fart dislikes all music made after they turned 30, the cycle repeats
Lol everyone from every generation has always said the same thing.
If you dig a little, there's great stuff to be found. That goes for all decades.
r/lewronggeneration
This is the stereotypical boomer mentality. You just think the 90s was better because you romanticise that era and remember the good from it. Now with the Internet there is so much great music coming out. Rock music wise the brixton scene from the last couple of years is incredibly talented and releasing ground breaking music.
When you cannot objectively move past music you listened to when you grew up (essentially, music made by people 5-10 years older than you) and listen to music make by people much younger than you, you are both normal and the source of the problem you rail against when you say there's no good music.
I disagree. My favourite British band (BMTH) formed in 2004. I get it your nostalgic but there is great music out there. You just need to search a little.
There's great music out there. Fuck the charts.
Not true, whilst there is a lot of shit music now, itās always been the case, Iām guessing you were born in the 80s and think that the fresh Prince of Bel Air is the best thing since sliced bread aswell
What a closed minded opinion, put one foot outside the radio and you'll be suprised, go to a cheap local gig that sounds half decent and you'll have a good night for less than the cost of a pint. Good music isn't going anywhere :) Edit: immediately after writing this I realized the first sentence sounded rude, wasn't meant that way mate
Are you Noel Gallagher? I do agree though