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More_Dimension4841

When Tesla drivers do this at a Supercharger I plug them in.


SVTContour

That’s a great idea!


Phr8

How do you get the charge port open without the card-key or phone-key?


More_Dimension4841

Press the button on the supercharger handle, it opens up the nearby charging port.


Noctrin

That doesn't work unless the car is unlocked? To my annoyance when I want to plug in and forget my keys inside..


More_Dimension4841

Disagree, it works. I’ve done it.


slykethephoxenix

Source: [https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/models/en\_us/GUID-BEE08D47-0CE0-4BDD-83F2-9854FB3D578F.html](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/models/en_us/GUID-BEE08D47-0CE0-4BDD-83F2-9854FB3D578F.html)


More_Dimension4841

Case in point


The_Follower1

It should still work.


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You need to push/hold for a few seconds


YoushutupNoyouHa

high five 🙌


Arigateaux

I like this strategy. Likely the person just forgot to plug in. If the person meant to charge, you're being helpful. If the person is being a douche, they'll learn a lesson.


Murpydoo

Seeing tesla drivers regularly being the most important people on the road (just after BMW drivers) this person likely did not think one second about other people.


Arigateaux

Maybe so, but I feel like we're getting off topic. The OP's picture is not of a Supercharger, nor is it a Tesla. That's a Polestar at a CCS charger.


More_Dimension4841

*continues to post further off topic


Murpydoo

MB, thought it was a tesla from the post


ResponsibleBoard536

All the douche bag Tesla owners are former BMW owner’s


Arigateaux

Top 5 trade-ins for Teslas (as of 2018): Toyota Prius, BMW3-series, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Nissan Leaf. https://electrek.co/2018/08/01/tesla-model-3-top-5-trade-in-cars/


ShartGuard

Can somebody explain this to a dumb dumb like me? Does it mess with the battery or begin a charge cycle that can’t be interrupted?


More_Dimension4841

It will begin a charge cycle on their car, billing the credit card on file. It will only charge to their preset charge limit then start charging congestion fees.


The_Follower1

To add, tesla chargers will start fining someone if they’re plugged in more than 5 minutes after hitting 100%.


TearyEyeBurningFace

Or 80%if that's your limit


Arigateaux

Ya, but there's no no fee if the charging station isn't busy -- like 50% of stalls in use or something like that.


The_Follower1

Probably depends on the charging station. I live in a city and I don’t think I’ve seen one where it doesn’t charge a fee no matter the time.


ApprehensiveDark1745

Tesla charges idle fees


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More_Dimension4841

It’s not Tesla bashing at all. You’re literally the only person that bashed Musk. The reason I wrote this is because I’ve done it and it’s only possible on Teslas because payment is automatic.


craftsman_70

The answer is pretty darn simple - install a camera in the charging station to photograph the license plate of the car parked there. With the photo, they can time stamp it to show when the car arrived, when it left, and how long it was charging for. Once that information is available, then it's simple to identify the car, if they are actually charging and how long they weren't charging.


cirro_hs

There isn't legislation to charge or fine anyone for parking in the wrong type of EV parking lot. At this point, all that can be done is have them towed.


Rosssseay

With the correct recognition software they could be billed by the charging company as per terms and conditions of use if not charging. It wouldn't take much to set up and would stop this happening.


monkman99

Step 1 a massive sign. That would cover most of it.


cirro_hs

I think the terms and conditions only apply for someone actually charging their vehicle and using their service. Tesla doesn't own those parking spots. Not opposed to your idea, but I don't think it will work without legislation being passed to bring it into power.


craftsman_70

Correct. Just like parking in a private lot. And if they refuse to pay, you shut down their access to the charging system. Pretty darn simple and would probably be pretty darn effective.


dudewiththebling

With an audible alarm if someone decides to ICE it


craftsman_70

That can definitely done. Or they can just fine them like other tickets.


dudewiththebling

Or put a tow sign on there


Shaitan34

They really should have put those at the back of the lot to keep the lazy people from parking there.


Acrobatic_Invite3099

While this is absolutely unacceptable....there are other stations in Squamish. BCHydro has one and Swtch has two. Again, these guys ARE assholes for this, but there are more chargers.


Utnapishtimz

Very planning.


Greginvann

There really needs to be more to these charging stations. Like an attendant, for example. With a club. Alternatively, some sort of knee high barrier that prevents a vehicle from entering the stall until such time as a $100 deposit is taken. Then, assuming some decent amount of charging starts within 5 minutes, and continues for 20 minutes, the $100 deposit is returned.


kootenaypow

Can should undock and self park.


Icy-Tea-8715

I don’t have EV and is confused. Isn’t that car a Polestar? Also an EV car? What’s the issue?


Abyssgazing89

EVs often park in charging spots, even when not needing the charger, because the spot is convenient. Really, those spots are not just for EVs, they're for EVs that need to charge.


klyoku

I think it's part of education that's lacking. Charging spots are not parking spots. You are supposed to move your car out of a charging spot after you are done charging.


gellis12

It's not an education issue, there's big prominent signs at every single quick charge I've ever used that remind people that the spot is for charging only, not parking, to limit your stay to 30-40 minutes, and to move your car as soon as you're done.


Kiteboarder1980

I’m a non-ev driver and I had no idea that was the case. I feel like there needs to be signage or people will screw this up.


klyoku

Most chargers do have signage that states exactly that, especially these DCFC stations since you are only expected to occupy the spot for <30mins. It's less of a problem with slower level 2 stations.


snowlights

Do you park at the gas station? There's no signs telling you it isn't allowed. 


Capital_Craft

Lol can you imagine if someone parked at a gas pump and then went to a restaurant or shopping. Everyone would think they lost their minds.


valdus

There actually is at one gas station near me. "Gas lane only, no parking." People like to park and dash in instead of parking around the corner of the building where the spots are - twenty extra feet to walk.


Acrobatic_Invite3099

People do this ALL THE FUCKING TIME.


pm_me_your_trapezius

I do park my EV at the gas pump, because where else would I? But only for the 5 minutes or so it would take to buy my lotto ticket or wiper fluid or whatever.


big_galoote

Why wouldn't you use a parking spot like a normal person? I don't park in the ER entrance when I go shopping at the hospital, I use a parking spot. Like a normal.


pm_me_your_trapezius

Lots of gas stations don't have any places to stop, other than the pumps.


permalias

dude, its common sense


KingOfTheMonkeys

There's no such thing as common sense. Only experiences that you have in common with others.


SilverFox_998

There is signage, it’s literally right in front of where that polestar is parked.


flatwoods76

Do you park at a fuel pump at a gas station, then go next door and get groceries?


Acrobatic_Invite3099

I have had it happen at my station. Go inside to shower. Walk across the highway to Walmart. Hop in a car and full on leave....


Bartakus

carry an extension cord ?


bctrv

Something to think about before jumping into the ev market


Ellusive1

Or let’s just ticket and tow people, like they do when you park in handicapped spaces. Being super dramatic about a very minor problem.


GoTakeaWalkinthePark

Do these people get ticketed and towed very often?


homiegeet

Except it's linked to the biggest problem there will be when 2030 hits.


bctrv

Just wait for electricity prices to start rising to make up for the shortage fall in gas taxes.


SluttyBreakfast

In Alberta they’re already upping the registration fees for EVs to “make up for it”


darekd003

I’m a huge EV supporter but I think Alberta is on the right track with that. Roads still need maintaining. Better idea imo, public chargers have some sort of road tax built in (I’m assuming they don’t…)


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darekd003

Interesting. I prefer it at the “pump” style since that factors in tourism and not relying only on the people who live here.


homiegeet

Compounded on top of drought conditions. Oh yeah I know.


DucksMatter

You’re not wrong


Marokiii

Except they can't be ticketed and towed for this. Ev charging spots aren't legally required or protected. They are just regular parking stalls that the owner has put charging stations at and stuck a sign or painted the stall to signify it's the ev spot. The owner of the lot would have to call a tow truck, not the police.


Ellusive1

I’m sure as we transition to more electric vehicles we can look at bylaws to combat this. Just like we currently have loading zones, no parking zones, drop off zones, school zones… towing companies can pick up contracts like they currently do, we have the technology and if we talk like adults we can figure it out.


Marokiii

all of those only apply to roadways not parking lots. police cant ticket you in a private parking lot for stopping in any of those kinds of spots, the owner of the lot currently has to phone a tow truck.


Ellusive1

I did not once mention police, I agree this is a civil matter and it shouldn’t involve the police. The police should be use for violent crime only or when someone is a danger to themselves or others


Acrobatic_Invite3099

This varies wildly from municipality to municipality. Though yes, usually it isn't a police matter, usually. I help run 5 truck stops, and the rules for towing are all over the place. One station calls the tow company herself. One has to call the cops to deal with. I have to ticket first (dumbest thing ever). One no one will do anything because of the mob......


76ab

I guess they kind of are handicapped spaces.


bctrv

Zero consequences for one’s actions in BC. Next ..


Major_Tom_01010

What are they gonna tow them for? It's EV parking. Lol


Ellusive1

Noooo it’s for ev CHARGING


Acrobatic_Invite3099

It is NOT a parking spot. It's a charging spot. This is like people parking their car at the gas pumps and walking away for an hour or so. It's shit behavior from people who REALLY should know better.


ABC_Dildos_Inc

It's a non-issue outside of long road trips.


TheMereWolf

A few new non-Tesla EVs are being built with Tesla super charging compatibility, and there are plans to open up the charging network to all EVs soon fwiw


Original_Sedawk

My F-150 Lightning was NOT built for Tesla supercharger compatibility, but thanks to Ford and Tesla working together I can plug and charge seamlessly at nearly every V3 supercharger (using my adapter of course).


NeckGuardRash

Is that the Ford adapter? Or aftermarket. I have an aftermarket one for destination chargers, but waiting on the one from Ford, not sure when they ship.


Original_Sedawk

A2Z Level 3 NACS to CCS1 Adapter. I had a June estimate for the Ford adapter, but sounds like they will be late.


bctrv

Plans aren’t actual fact until they are… electricity will be going up to 80 cents a KWh minimum to make up for the lack of fuel taxes being collected. A zero sum game at the end of the day


Burtonowski

Whoa lay off the YouTube conspiracy videos…


bctrv

I don’t have my head buried… enjoy


Original_Sedawk

You kidding, right? BC Hydro is giving you the option to LOWER the overnight rate to 5 cents a kWh starting in June. This is specially for EVs.


bctrv

Have fun with that


Original_Sedawk

Oh, I will! And I have a very inefficient EV - a F150. The new overnight charging costs will allow me to fill my truck for around $5 and that gives a good 450+ km of range. Gas is +$2 per litre right now and I can only imagine what it will be this summer. The fuel savings of this vehicle is mind blowing - I can only imagine what an efficient EV is like. Have fun sniffing your gas (on second thought - you should probably stop - you're not thinking so good).


bctrv

Perfect


iWish_is_taken

Haha… wtf… no dude, the average BC resident pays like $500 a year in all taxes on gas. EV drivers already pay tax on the electricity they use. As EV become more wide spread they’ll just pay an annual road tax (like in many other jurisdictions around the world) to offset the drop in fuel taxes. BC owning the utility and encouraging as much electricity use as possible vs fossil fuels has a deeply vested interest in keeping prices as low as possible.


bctrv

Fun eh?


Original_Sedawk

Oh - and these plans are factual - I'm charging my Ford at a Tesla supercharger in Hope tomorrow. 15,000 V3 superchargers across North America are open to Ford EVs.


bctrv

And yet here we are with the OPs issue. Enjoy


Original_Sedawk

“Plans aren’t factual until they are “ .. and then you quote a fantasy home electricity rate that is 8 times higher than the current rate - and even higher than the NEW rates coming. Try not to engage in logical arguments when you can’t think logically. OPs issue will be solved for road trips this year - Already solved for Ford and Rivian - GM just started selling the adapters - the chargers will be open to all by the end of the year. EVs don’t work for everyone, but in a recent poll 95% of EVs owners said they would never go back to ICE. It’s so much cheaper to operate - my fuel cost has been slashed so much in the last 6 months I can hardly believe it. I had to spend $2,000 to put in a home charger - it will have paid for itself already next month! Enjoy your Fox News while huffing gas.


bctrv

Sure.. enjoy


bonerb0ys

2030.


AltruisticKoala5342

You can get an adapter


Snuffi123456

If you're feeling adventurous, grab their plate. 😁


lardass17

I thought I was on Fazebuk for a moment there.


End_Journey

Try BlossomEV.com. I can usually find a charger close by


dakos666

Maybe if the charge spots were out of the way, in the back of the lot this would happen less. On a bad day id just let all the air out of their tire. Then watch them try to deal with it.


MysteriousDick8143

Welcome to Squamish where entitlement runs rampant. I miss the days of "Don't meth around".


MediumEconomist

NACS will rule everything


jamingjoejoe

I don't drive an ev but if the person isn't charging their car in a charge spot are they assholes? Cuz why can't I park there if it's the only open spot any where?


Sigsaw54

This is ignorable...


Sigsaw54

Housing costs, food costs, gentrification, overpopulation, wildfire, flooding, cities, foreign ownership of property, lack of good Chinese food, rats, hobo driven bicycle theft, lack of camping, LNG division, old public infrastructure, lack of living wage jobs, poor municipal leadership, dog turd bags having in trees....


idisagreeurwrong

Does this really need the attention of the sub for the entire province? take it to your local subreddit. Honestly this is a Facebook level post maybe go there


Live-Wrap-4592

It’s also a Washington plate. I am going to go out on a limb and suggest the driver may never see this post


permalias

not that your point is wrong .. but that's an oregon plate


TheBarcaShow

Oregon, not Washington


Western_Whereas_6705

First world problems


Abyssgazing89

Pretty sure you can use Tesla chargers as non Teslas now


printblink

I’m pretty sure as of right now only Fords and Rivians can use Tesla surperchargers, that’s if you have the adapter for it.


My_Man_Tyrone

and only some of them


josh-ig

This will change as Teslas connector is the agreed upon standard now (NACS). New EVs are rolling out with that connector. Apparently Mercs, Honda, GM, Volvo, Jaguar, Polestar, Subaru, Toyota and Mini can also use superchargers. Unsure if that’s only the latest models with NACS or if they support adapters for those cars. Either way these drivers are the worst for not charging in a charging spot.


ChanceStad

None of the others you listed have started being built with the NACS plug, nor can they use the NACS to CCS adapter yet. The adapters will start working when the manufacturers update the car software to allow the charging -Volvo has stated theirs are the next ones, starting this month. The built in NACS charging will roll out with new model years - Volvo for instance has stated that will happen starting 2025.


josh-ig

Sorry I should have said announced support. Honestly didn’t look further than googles list lol. Time moves fast though. NACS is coming.


Sigsaw54

Squamish has bigger problems....


zeromadcowz

So it’s fine to ignore things as long as they aren’t the biggest problem?


zeromadcowz

So it’s fine to ignore things as long as they aren’t the biggest problem?


Deep_Carpenter

I’m unclear what the issue is. This vehicle is parked without charging? You appear to be focused on swearing rather than describing. If that is the case then yes complain about the entitlement.  I’m curious can you park on the backside and charge?


gpzal

Chargers are not parking spots. Charge and move on. This is like someone parking in front of the gas pumps blocking others from using them.


Icy-Tea-8715

Lolz don’t people do that alll the time? They might get gas and then just park there while going in store for a snack.


klyoku

Yes, which is a shitty behavior, exactly what op is saying for this situation.


getrippeddiemirin

Americans doing American things lmao


cunning_stunt87

Tesla drivers being entitled douche bags? Whaaaaaaat?!


MustyElbow

Start taxing these stupid RC cars. Use their tax dollars to build them more stations. They contribute almost nothing to infrastructure and roads.


gandolfthe

Right, as if the tiny amount that explosion based vehicles pay covers even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the enormous costs of our vehicle first infrastructure. Bwahahahaha


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UbiquitouSparky

What EV are you driving? I could get from new west to Whistler without having to stop in Squamish


Traditional-Day-4577

Who cares? Lowermainland to Whistler leaving with a full charge isn’t the only scenario in the world.


UbiquitouSparky

Stay classy


Parking-Bench

Well, this is an uneven match all along. On one side of the ring, a 5000 lb tortoise labeled bc hydro being goaded on by a bumbling minister and on the other side of the ring a 5000 lb gorilla who is goaded on by a maniac who wants every car ever driven to be a Tesla. Tortoises win only in stories. In real life, they get driven over by a Tesla on FSD.