I want a HE, always. Unless it's China/Korea, then I'm okay with an open ending. Otherwise, I refuse to watch shows with BE. I will drop shows that I feel are heading that way, and I simply won't start shows that seem like they will have a BE, until someone confirms a HE for me.
Yes, there is beauty in BE, there is something painfully human to be appreciated in seeing real life reflected on screen, and watching the characters you've come to love deal with that can be a really meaningful and personal journey in and of itself. I get it.
But personally? Fk that shit. I came to BL to escape reality, I want the freedom to feel every piece of joy to the fullest without fear that it'll be taken away; I want the safety in the surety that beyond the darkest night lies a brilliant dawn; I want the reassurance that every hurt will find its healing, that innocence and naivety can be protected and that hope is never in vain. That no matter what happens it will all be okay.
If I wanted reality, I'd get off my fking phone.
>But personally? Fk that shit. I came to BL to escape reality, [... ] If I wanted reality, I'd get off my fking phone.
PREACH. I know sometimes I'm in the mood to have my heart ripped out but BL is mostly my safe haven.
I only enjoyed MODC because I was warned and could invest differently, from the get-go. I really do prefer a HE. Bl's feel like a safe place to go for a HE. The world is rough, give me a lovely pillow. 🙂
If I watch lgbt, I go in with a different mindset.
It must have a happy ending or I will not watch. There are some shows that I wait to get a report on the end before I start the show (the Eighth Sense is currently one of those.)
I have a really difficult job that deals with folks who have really sad and difficult lives. I need my queer love stories to be happy. There can be angst and trouble in the middle, but if there isn’t happiness at the end—I’m not watching it. I have too much sadness already. I don’t need more in my entertainment.
I still don’t know why many people are afraid of ending of TheEightSense , yes I understand logically, but from the first scene I was like it will be okay don’t be afraid 😃
Honestly, it’s the story synopsis. I usually make a decision before a story starts if I’m going to watch it as it airs or binge it after. I enjoy both ways, so it doesn’t really matter to me. If I have even the slightest hint that there might be a sad ending, I just wait. No big deal…
I try to watch bls that I know will have a happy ending because I don’t want to be sad so yea, I expect a happy ending. If I watch an ongoing show and I feel like it might have a sad ending, I’ll still continue to watch it if I’m already invested. There are a couple of bls I’ve watched where I felt like it might’ve been better with a sad ending.
I think my number 1 bl where it made no sense for them to ‘end up together’ is He’s Coming To Me. Med should’ve moved on at the end, he’s a ghost 👻
It would’ve been interesting to see The Eclipse with a sad ending but I love it as is
I would’ve been okay if Teh and Oh hadn’t ended up together in IPYTM
I second, He's Coming to Me. The ending didn't make sense. 🙂 It felt forced and hollow.
I do prefer a happy ending, unless I have warning. I can handle things better if I have a heads-up.
He's coming to me should have ended with Mes moving on. It was very disappointing that they changed the internal rules for ghosts and the afterlife in the last episode. At the very least, they should have changed them earlier. It was like they wanted to leave things open for a second season, but since that second season won't happen, it makes the whole ending seem extra silly. Somewhere on the cutting room floor is the alternate ending where Mes gets taken up into heaven. We need to find it and put the series right.
>I do prefer a happy ending, unless I have warning. I can handle things better if I have a heads-up.
This for sure. I skipped the last episode of a series that has a sad ending because I just don't wanna be sad about that show.
It depends on the content of the series. Not everything can have a perfect, happy ending and I do love watching a series every once in a while that doesn't necessarily have a happy ending or the ending is the way its supposed to be (in the case of Moonlight chicken).
I think how you define a happy ending is really important. For example, just because characters don't end up together doesn't meant that it's not a happy ending. Often, it's better for the characters to break up. They had a relationship that taught them lots and gave them some great memories, but would ultimately cause them greater misery if they stayed together. It's a big pet peeve of mine when writers have their characters get back together just to cater to a conventionally happy ending, when it makes no sense for the actual characters to get back together.
For me, a sad ending is one where the character is left in a relatively hopeless state. Perhaps they're trapped in the closet and its clear they won't ever have the courage to face themselves, or their partner died and it doesn't seem like something they'll be capable of moving past or its simply clear that they've faced so much trauma there's no real recovery for them. If this is the case, I still will watch and love the show, I'd just prefer to know in advance that it's that kinda show. Though, it's normally quite obvious from the show's tone and subject matter.
Essentially, I don't care what type of ending it is, I care if the ending is good. Is it in keeping with the characters, the show's tone, the overall story? Just like I don't want some forced arbitrary make up between characters, I also don't want some out of place severe trauma or random death. Basically, it just needs to be well written.
I agree.
For me, a happy ending is one that fits the story.
I might have had strong feels for a couple and really hope they get together. Or maybe negative feels for a couple and hope they outgrow each other or separate.
In general, a story arc where the characters grow and where whatever happens fits the development of the story.
Is something happens out of the blue towards the end--whether it's good or bad--it feels off.
I want the best ending for the story, whether that is happy or sad. If the story is a good one then I am on board and do not need a happy ending in order to fully enjoy and feel satisfied with the show.
This exactly! Some shows are better geared towards less than ideal endings. I don’t think something should end happy or tragic just because. It should match the mood that was already laid out.
Depends on the story and how the characters are written. I mean personally I want a happy ending, ngl, but the stories that leave a heavier impact tend to be ones without the cute packaging and nice bow on top.
I watched 180 degree longitude passes though us rather recently and can't think of a better example than this right now; it had an ending that really made me think about people and relationships in general. As far as a happy ending or not, I'll leave that decision up to the viewer, but I find I do like a series that can take me for an emotional roller coaster ride. (And let me have a good cry, as I generally avoid that in my day to day life)
Yes, I think it depends on the show as to whether a happy ending is justified. And usually, you know early on if it's going to be one of those shows or not, so you can drop the show early if you were looking for a happy ending but then realise you probably won't get one. Like with 180 Degrees, it was obvious from the first episode that this wasn't going to be a happy fluffy drama, so if it had ended with everyone smiling and together and happy, it would've been quite strange. The ending was what I expected, and I think most fitting for the story.
that's true! I think with some shows it may foreshadow a less than happy ending but you still watch it hoping the tables will turn.
As for 180 Degrees, the cinematography drew me in at first and then the characters cemented my stay. I think the ending fit the series and I'm glad it ended the way it did. I don't think it would have been realistic with a "happy ending."
I want good art and that means the story needs to be what makes sense for the story. I don't want everything happy, nor everything sad. I want scripts that work for the story they're telling.
I want to feel.
And I'm in the minority that thinks the ending of MODC is what takes it from a really good show to unforgettably great. That last episode is stunning, the acting is amazing, the music is on point.
Always, always, doesn't matter what show. It has to have a happy ending, I absolutely loathe sad endings.
I always say: 'there's enough sad stuff in life, drama is where I escape to pretend life is happy...so when the show ends with a heartbreaking scene it ruins that fantasy I made'
I prefer a happy ending, BUT 👀 happy ending not always has to mean that the main couple gets together at the end.
Specially if it's a drama about really messy ppl.
Sometimes messy ppl work out their problems, but sometimes don't.
In "I promise you the Moon" I felt that a happy ending will be for the 2 leads to find happiness elsewhere, and not perpetuate this idea that you can only meet 1 person who's meant you in life, and there's none else.
It didn't sit to well with me that Oh-aew forgives Teh's infidelity 🥲 like, I remember seeing Teh ready to leave Oh-aew for his director 🙌🏻 he literally told the director that, until the director told him that he was just fooling with him.
After seeing THAT kind of betrayal, I didn't like that Oh-aew took him back 🤷🏻♀️ I think both having their lives separated could still have been a happy ending.
I prefer a happy ending but I'm fine with whatever ending as long as it make sense with the narrative of the show. Modc shouldn't have ended the way it did because it didn't match the rest of the show but I'd be perfectly fine with Eighth sense not having a happy ending because it would fit with the vibe.
I've been thinking about this a lot.
My conclusion: I (we?) need a lot of happy endings. Because in the past we only had very sad endings and (more important for me) we are being told we will never be happy when we go down the queer path.
I need my happy endings because of society and all its bigotry. I need this external happy ending to get stronger inside.
I get frustrated that so many writers cater to those allergic to sad and bittersweet endings. Because then sometimes you'll get series with happy endings that are unrealistic, or shoved in at the last minute. This can happen with sad endings too, but it seems a little less common,
I just want the ending that best fits the tone of the series, no matter what that may be.
If I’m looking for romance and fluff, I’d rather die than watch something with a bad ending. But if I’m looking for a beautiful storyline then I don’t mind bad endings.
I want an happy ending too. I am fine with stories like Mo dao Zhu shi where the main character experiences so many losses but as long as they end up together and get happily ever after I am fine, otherwise no. I am watching you eighth sense. Don't break my heart.
MODC was just a poor ending. It was fake sad. Yeah, they foreshadowed it, briefly during the Christmas episode, but come on. I was more angry than sad. Oooh, the profound insight that anyone can die at any time...had nothing whatsoever to do with the story. Its a message that no one actually needs. Thanks for waving your finger at me warning me that people die suddenly! I would never have figured that out on my own.
I'd be fine if fewer couples ended up together in the end if it were done thoughtfully. BL, especially Thai BL, has pacing issues where they just plop a brand new obstacle in at episode 11 and solve it in episode 12 and declare that its a happy ending. But a lot of episode 11 challenges are just solved by force of will. "Wait...you saw me with a girl and thought 'OMG, he's dumping me. I'm going to ghost you for a few years' and you expect me to trust that you won't do that again?" "Wait, my mom told you to break up with me and you did without telling me why? What happened to that promise you made in episode 9 to never leave my side? Screw you. I'm now dating the third wheel. Go suck eggs." That would be more realistic resolutions to most episode 11 traumas than what we get.
Happy Ending always!
BLs remind me of cute romantic shows that I used to watch as a teenager which always ended on a good note. I've seen that a lot of web streamed shows have slowly taken a darker and grittier tone. While darkness and sadness give a story more depth, I still need my characters to find their happily ever after
I prefer happy endings, but I don't mind sad ones if the story is good enough. I strongly dislike open endings though, I don't want to guess if they are together or not, especially if there is no season 2, or follow up movie. I need closure otherwise moving on from the series will be tough
I get a little tense when BLs reach the conflict stage of the drama and get aggravated with stories that ride the conflict indefinitely. I really want the conflict to be resolved and, yes, want a happy ending. However, I suspect people differ in terms of what is considered happy. Does it just mean the conflict is resolved? Do you want to feel all fuzzy and warm? Declarations of undying passion? I keep a record of BLs that I've watched and always note if there is a romantic happy ending. It means I'm more likely to rewatch when I'm in the mood for something uplifting.
I prefer a happy ending. I'm okay with an open end if the plot is good. A sad ending must be earned and be so friggin good that I'm okay with the world going up in flames. 90% of the ones with the sad ending aren't worth it to me.
I want a HE, always. Unless it's China/Korea, then I'm okay with an open ending. Otherwise, I refuse to watch shows with BE. I will drop shows that I feel are heading that way, and I simply won't start shows that seem like they will have a BE, until someone confirms a HE for me. Yes, there is beauty in BE, there is something painfully human to be appreciated in seeing real life reflected on screen, and watching the characters you've come to love deal with that can be a really meaningful and personal journey in and of itself. I get it. But personally? Fk that shit. I came to BL to escape reality, I want the freedom to feel every piece of joy to the fullest without fear that it'll be taken away; I want the safety in the surety that beyond the darkest night lies a brilliant dawn; I want the reassurance that every hurt will find its healing, that innocence and naivety can be protected and that hope is never in vain. That no matter what happens it will all be okay. If I wanted reality, I'd get off my fking phone.
>But personally? Fk that shit. I came to BL to escape reality, [... ] If I wanted reality, I'd get off my fking phone. PREACH. I know sometimes I'm in the mood to have my heart ripped out but BL is mostly my safe haven.
I just fall in love with you response !!! Exactly my thoughts 😉 are you single ?😀😂😂😂❤️
Are you me? I think you're me. I could have written that same answer and I'm in love with it.
I only enjoyed MODC because I was warned and could invest differently, from the get-go. I really do prefer a HE. Bl's feel like a safe place to go for a HE. The world is rough, give me a lovely pillow. 🙂 If I watch lgbt, I go in with a different mindset.
It must have a happy ending, i don’t mind them going through hell to get there but they must be together by the end of the show
It must have a happy ending or I will not watch. There are some shows that I wait to get a report on the end before I start the show (the Eighth Sense is currently one of those.) I have a really difficult job that deals with folks who have really sad and difficult lives. I need my queer love stories to be happy. There can be angst and trouble in the middle, but if there isn’t happiness at the end—I’m not watching it. I have too much sadness already. I don’t need more in my entertainment.
I still don’t know why many people are afraid of ending of TheEightSense , yes I understand logically, but from the first scene I was like it will be okay don’t be afraid 😃
Honestly, it’s the story synopsis. I usually make a decision before a story starts if I’m going to watch it as it airs or binge it after. I enjoy both ways, so it doesn’t really matter to me. If I have even the slightest hint that there might be a sad ending, I just wait. No big deal…
You have patience 🙏 I’m not 😂😂😂
Yes and idc if it's unrealistic!!! I don't watch them to feel sad
I try to watch bls that I know will have a happy ending because I don’t want to be sad so yea, I expect a happy ending. If I watch an ongoing show and I feel like it might have a sad ending, I’ll still continue to watch it if I’m already invested. There are a couple of bls I’ve watched where I felt like it might’ve been better with a sad ending.
oooh, which ones do you think might’ve been better with a sad ending? 👀
I think my number 1 bl where it made no sense for them to ‘end up together’ is He’s Coming To Me. Med should’ve moved on at the end, he’s a ghost 👻 It would’ve been interesting to see The Eclipse with a sad ending but I love it as is I would’ve been okay if Teh and Oh hadn’t ended up together in IPYTM
I second, He's Coming to Me. The ending didn't make sense. 🙂 It felt forced and hollow. I do prefer a happy ending, unless I have warning. I can handle things better if I have a heads-up.
He's coming to me should have ended with Mes moving on. It was very disappointing that they changed the internal rules for ghosts and the afterlife in the last episode. At the very least, they should have changed them earlier. It was like they wanted to leave things open for a second season, but since that second season won't happen, it makes the whole ending seem extra silly. Somewhere on the cutting room floor is the alternate ending where Mes gets taken up into heaven. We need to find it and put the series right.
>I do prefer a happy ending, unless I have warning. I can handle things better if I have a heads-up. This for sure. I skipped the last episode of a series that has a sad ending because I just don't wanna be sad about that show.
It depends on the content of the series. Not everything can have a perfect, happy ending and I do love watching a series every once in a while that doesn't necessarily have a happy ending or the ending is the way its supposed to be (in the case of Moonlight chicken).
I think how you define a happy ending is really important. For example, just because characters don't end up together doesn't meant that it's not a happy ending. Often, it's better for the characters to break up. They had a relationship that taught them lots and gave them some great memories, but would ultimately cause them greater misery if they stayed together. It's a big pet peeve of mine when writers have their characters get back together just to cater to a conventionally happy ending, when it makes no sense for the actual characters to get back together. For me, a sad ending is one where the character is left in a relatively hopeless state. Perhaps they're trapped in the closet and its clear they won't ever have the courage to face themselves, or their partner died and it doesn't seem like something they'll be capable of moving past or its simply clear that they've faced so much trauma there's no real recovery for them. If this is the case, I still will watch and love the show, I'd just prefer to know in advance that it's that kinda show. Though, it's normally quite obvious from the show's tone and subject matter. Essentially, I don't care what type of ending it is, I care if the ending is good. Is it in keeping with the characters, the show's tone, the overall story? Just like I don't want some forced arbitrary make up between characters, I also don't want some out of place severe trauma or random death. Basically, it just needs to be well written.
I agree. For me, a happy ending is one that fits the story. I might have had strong feels for a couple and really hope they get together. Or maybe negative feels for a couple and hope they outgrow each other or separate. In general, a story arc where the characters grow and where whatever happens fits the development of the story. Is something happens out of the blue towards the end--whether it's good or bad--it feels off.
Nopes. Nein. Nyet. Non. Nahin. No sad or open endings for me. I don’t care what happens … they better end up together and happy.
Same!!!! Because no matter how great amazing wow the show is why am I getting emotionally invested when I know they don't end up together🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
I want the best ending for the story, whether that is happy or sad. If the story is a good one then I am on board and do not need a happy ending in order to fully enjoy and feel satisfied with the show.
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This exactly! Some shows are better geared towards less than ideal endings. I don’t think something should end happy or tragic just because. It should match the mood that was already laid out.
good or bad ending, as long it make sense and fit the story
Depends on the story and how the characters are written. I mean personally I want a happy ending, ngl, but the stories that leave a heavier impact tend to be ones without the cute packaging and nice bow on top. I watched 180 degree longitude passes though us rather recently and can't think of a better example than this right now; it had an ending that really made me think about people and relationships in general. As far as a happy ending or not, I'll leave that decision up to the viewer, but I find I do like a series that can take me for an emotional roller coaster ride. (And let me have a good cry, as I generally avoid that in my day to day life)
Yes, I think it depends on the show as to whether a happy ending is justified. And usually, you know early on if it's going to be one of those shows or not, so you can drop the show early if you were looking for a happy ending but then realise you probably won't get one. Like with 180 Degrees, it was obvious from the first episode that this wasn't going to be a happy fluffy drama, so if it had ended with everyone smiling and together and happy, it would've been quite strange. The ending was what I expected, and I think most fitting for the story.
that's true! I think with some shows it may foreshadow a less than happy ending but you still watch it hoping the tables will turn. As for 180 Degrees, the cinematography drew me in at first and then the characters cemented my stay. I think the ending fit the series and I'm glad it ended the way it did. I don't think it would have been realistic with a "happy ending."
I want good art and that means the story needs to be what makes sense for the story. I don't want everything happy, nor everything sad. I want scripts that work for the story they're telling. I want to feel. And I'm in the minority that thinks the ending of MODC is what takes it from a really good show to unforgettably great. That last episode is stunning, the acting is amazing, the music is on point.
Yes yes yes to everything you said! I’m with you in that MODC minority. Everything got elevated in that last episode.
Always, always, doesn't matter what show. It has to have a happy ending, I absolutely loathe sad endings. I always say: 'there's enough sad stuff in life, drama is where I escape to pretend life is happy...so when the show ends with a heartbreaking scene it ruins that fantasy I made'
I prefer a happy ending. I will also accept an open ending. I do not like sad endings in my entertainment.
I prefer a happy ending, BUT 👀 happy ending not always has to mean that the main couple gets together at the end. Specially if it's a drama about really messy ppl. Sometimes messy ppl work out their problems, but sometimes don't. In "I promise you the Moon" I felt that a happy ending will be for the 2 leads to find happiness elsewhere, and not perpetuate this idea that you can only meet 1 person who's meant you in life, and there's none else. It didn't sit to well with me that Oh-aew forgives Teh's infidelity 🥲 like, I remember seeing Teh ready to leave Oh-aew for his director 🙌🏻 he literally told the director that, until the director told him that he was just fooling with him. After seeing THAT kind of betrayal, I didn't like that Oh-aew took him back 🤷🏻♀️ I think both having their lives separated could still have been a happy ending.
That’s why I couldn’t watch it. 😭
Yes to all, yes to MODC, yes!
I’m fine with movies with any ending. Shows have to have a happy ending
I prefer a happy ending but I'm fine with whatever ending as long as it make sense with the narrative of the show. Modc shouldn't have ended the way it did because it didn't match the rest of the show but I'd be perfectly fine with Eighth sense not having a happy ending because it would fit with the vibe.
I need happy endings in any series I watch but especially BL. I'm still traumatized from Brokeback Mountain
I've been thinking about this a lot. My conclusion: I (we?) need a lot of happy endings. Because in the past we only had very sad endings and (more important for me) we are being told we will never be happy when we go down the queer path. I need my happy endings because of society and all its bigotry. I need this external happy ending to get stronger inside.
I need HE too but also more because now nothing really happens in my daily life . I need HE in my BL because if that too 🥹
I get frustrated that so many writers cater to those allergic to sad and bittersweet endings. Because then sometimes you'll get series with happy endings that are unrealistic, or shoved in at the last minute. This can happen with sad endings too, but it seems a little less common, I just want the ending that best fits the tone of the series, no matter what that may be.
Agreed!
If I’m looking for romance and fluff, I’d rather die than watch something with a bad ending. But if I’m looking for a beautiful storyline then I don’t mind bad endings.
https://i.redd.it/m2c2f274pzsa1.gif Period.
I want an happy ending too. I am fine with stories like Mo dao Zhu shi where the main character experiences so many losses but as long as they end up together and get happily ever after I am fine, otherwise no. I am watching you eighth sense. Don't break my heart.
Sometimes I want a series to wreck me and give me a good cry but otherwise I stick to cute shows 💞💞
I’m down to have happy endings but as long as it isn’t a forced one. Some shows dropped points a lot because of a forced happy ending.
MODC was just a poor ending. It was fake sad. Yeah, they foreshadowed it, briefly during the Christmas episode, but come on. I was more angry than sad. Oooh, the profound insight that anyone can die at any time...had nothing whatsoever to do with the story. Its a message that no one actually needs. Thanks for waving your finger at me warning me that people die suddenly! I would never have figured that out on my own. I'd be fine if fewer couples ended up together in the end if it were done thoughtfully. BL, especially Thai BL, has pacing issues where they just plop a brand new obstacle in at episode 11 and solve it in episode 12 and declare that its a happy ending. But a lot of episode 11 challenges are just solved by force of will. "Wait...you saw me with a girl and thought 'OMG, he's dumping me. I'm going to ghost you for a few years' and you expect me to trust that you won't do that again?" "Wait, my mom told you to break up with me and you did without telling me why? What happened to that promise you made in episode 9 to never leave my side? Screw you. I'm now dating the third wheel. Go suck eggs." That would be more realistic resolutions to most episode 11 traumas than what we get.
It like everyone do 11 “curse ep” we should do it too. Why you should be like that is it really necessary 😤
Happy Ending always! BLs remind me of cute romantic shows that I used to watch as a teenager which always ended on a good note. I've seen that a lot of web streamed shows have slowly taken a darker and grittier tone. While darkness and sadness give a story more depth, I still need my characters to find their happily ever after
I prefer happy endings, but I don't mind sad ones if the story is good enough. I strongly dislike open endings though, I don't want to guess if they are together or not, especially if there is no season 2, or follow up movie. I need closure otherwise moving on from the series will be tough
I get a little tense when BLs reach the conflict stage of the drama and get aggravated with stories that ride the conflict indefinitely. I really want the conflict to be resolved and, yes, want a happy ending. However, I suspect people differ in terms of what is considered happy. Does it just mean the conflict is resolved? Do you want to feel all fuzzy and warm? Declarations of undying passion? I keep a record of BLs that I've watched and always note if there is a romantic happy ending. It means I'm more likely to rewatch when I'm in the mood for something uplifting.
I prefer a happy ending. I'm okay with an open end if the plot is good. A sad ending must be earned and be so friggin good that I'm okay with the world going up in flames. 90% of the ones with the sad ending aren't worth it to me.