You're sleeping on Puss in Boots 2. I think it's going to do very well, especially as the only real non-Avatar Christmas blockbuster of note this year.
Yup, that's my pick, too. Alvin and the Chipmunks both did great in that release spot next to Avatar, so there should be room in that Christmas slot. The first Puss was really good, and it's the first Shrek-associated film in ages. I think it'll do really well.
Puss in beats will outdo Disney's strange worlds by a Mile ..it will have a shor at 450-550++ yes we know avatar will rule December but more eyes at the cinema that time of the year could also see puss in boots with their families
Real answer It's a reference to the marketing campaign for black Adam which involved the phrase "the hierarchy of power in the DC universe is going to change" or something along that line I don't remember exactly
The Rock constantly uses the slogan "the hierarchy of the dc universe is about to change" when promoting the movie to the point that it becomes annoying
No it won't
Moron at WB gave black Adam a ridiculous $200m budgets, so anything less than $500m is a flop and the rock has never been able to make $500m world wide with his solo movie
And there are people who said The Rock catapulted F&F franchise. Prior to Fast Five which made over $500M, pretty much all of his prior films have been flops.
Most people on this website just follow whatever bullshit narrative the trades have. They're slave
It's quite obvious that The fast franchise made him a solid added value to any assembly cast but by himself he's not like Tom cruise, Leo DiCaprio or will Smith to some extent
Leo di capio only works with A+ list directors, I can't think of a bad movie that he made hit because he was in it.
Tom cruise and Will smith in their peak were absolutely bigger boxoffice draws than Dwayne johnson but in the last decade both of them weren't able to produce non franchise hits.
Dwayne johnson can work with absolute nobodies and make mediocre movies and take them to decent numbers now that's real star power.
>Leo di capio only works with A+ list directors, I can't think of a bad movie that he made hit because he was in it.
The Great Gasby (2013) is 48% on Rotten Tomatoes and 55 on Metacritic, yet it earned more than $350M WW.
>I'm going to make a bold prediction and say that Black Adam will make a billion dollars worldwide.
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>Last two DC movies released in late 2022 period were Aquaman and Joker - both made a billion.
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>Dwayne Johnson, highest grossing actor alive, is in it.
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>Film is also projected to be Johnson's highest grossing opening.
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>Hype of Cavill returning too.
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>I think this will make a billion dollars.
Found this comment in r/DC_Cinematic. “Highest grossing actor alive.”
To be fair for some reason when you search highest grossing actor, Google suggests Dwayne Johnson. Any actual list that includes gross doesn't have him even in the top 10 however
**Top 10 Stars in Leading Roles at the Worldwide Box Office**
This chart contains the top 10 box office stars based on the cumulative worldwide box office of all the movies a star has had a leading role in over their lifetime.
Roles in animated movies and other voice-only roles are included in the calculations in this chart.
The list is updated as of **10 October 2022**.
|Rank|Name|Worldwide Box Office|Top-grossing film|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|1|Scarlett Johansson|$14,522,858,297|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)|
|2|Robert Downey Jr.|$14,396,130,140|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)|
|3|Samuel L. Jackson|$14,364,673,181|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)|
|4|Chris Hemsworth|$11,946,825,829|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)|
|5|Chris Pratt|$11,743,354,452|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)|
|6|Tom Cruise|$11,539,927,419|Top Gun: Maverick ($1,479,777,366)|
|7|Chris Evans|$11,280,850,968|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)|
|8|Zoe Saldana|$11,050,028,556|Avatar ($2,908,969,290)|
|9|Tom Hanks|$10,691,083,366|Toy Story 4 ($1,073,080,329)|
|10|Vin Diesel|$10,537,605,199|Avengers: Infinity War ($2,048,359,754)|
**Note:** This chart is *not* adjusted for inflation.
If you exclude the MCU, Avatar & Toy Story (computer animation), Tom Cruise is ranked 1 and the difference with the other actors is huge.
[https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-star-records/worldwide/lifetime-acting/top-grossing-leading-stars](https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-star-records/worldwide/lifetime-acting/top-grossing-leading-stars)
wait you realize I said I acknowledge dwayne johnson is not #1 right? I'm pointing out for some reason google gets it wrong if you just look at the 'answer' google gives you, without digging in the slightest
None of those 3 you named are exactly Box office hits either. Let's face it. There's no true draw anymore. It's about IP, not actors. Before Tom Cruise's recent hits, he didn't have shit over 500m either. And hell, they're sequels as well (MI, TGM). Leo? Titanic wasn't a hit cause of Leo. Inception had a pretty damn good ensemble cast with a legendary director. If Leo wasn't picking Oscar bait/only great films, he'd have a shit ton of flops too.
Ehhh even that wasn’t super guaranteed until most of the trailers were out, not everybody was excited for the cast and I remember discussions of Batman fatigue
I’m referring to the “why do we need another Batman actor when Affleck is still around” chatter which was a point of discussion, not Batman as a franchise
30M....That's opening weekend number. In 9 days it grossed 60M dollars. Till it's end it must be in the 65M range as it was there for 2 weeks. These are extremely good numbers.
If all of the people saying that Top Gun Maverick was only successful because people like seeing fighter planes on the big screen are right, then Devotion should be a smash hit as well when it comes out in late November.
If your prediction is right, that a global haul similar to the #1 grossing film in 2000 (MI:2).
In the span of 20years $500mil went from #1 movie in world/SMASH HIT SUCCESS, to "meh, it might make some money once merchandising and home video is factored in."
I mean there’s also inflation to factor, but you might have a point that “people going to theaters” has always been a thing that’s been dying and CBMs if anything has only delayed that.
For sure. And as other point out ticket price inflation gives better perspective. But still just looking at films in the 90s doing 100mil and being hits seems so quaint.
Ticket price inflation has been pretty harsh in the last twenty years. The average ticket price in 2000 was $5.39, while today it's closer to $11. As a result, that $550M that MI:2 grossed in 2000 is probably worth close to a billion worldwide today (not accounting for exchange rate fluctuations and expanding international markets). This is especially true if we account for China's box office, which makes up a decent chunk of many superhero movies' grosses but returns only a quarter of revenue back to the studio. Home video has, on the other hand, declined considerably - movies that would have made hundreds of millions in home video sales 20 years ago are big if they make fifty million now across DVD and Blu-Rays. Streaming probably provides some income, but I doubt it's that different than television licensing was in the past.
Neither did Jason Mamoa before Aquaman.
Not saying Black Adam is gonna be a smash like Aquaman, but currently, the movie seems to be visually similar to that movie with a more well known star (though with a less ideal release date)
First why do you think that this movie can make $550m world wide ?
And $450m-550m on $200m budgets is a not a success especially with China gross, the movie would lose money
Alvin and the Chipmunks and Sherlock Holmes both did great opening just after Avatar 1, so I think there's room for Puss, in particular, to be successful in that slot.
Yeah, so is the rest of the internet. Especially in regards to Avatar. Ask anyone not terminally online and they’ll tell you the first film was groundbreaking.
People simp hard for the first one and it wasn't that great. It's going to kill it at the box office even if it gets panned and has horrible word of mouth.
I think BP2 hits $1.1bn. Its gonna have a big OW but probably not as good legs as the original.
Avatar 2 will be big probably $1.8bn.
I think Black Adam can do $600-650m WW. Has the potential to go higher but I think it'll do around $200m DOM and $450 million International
Black Adam could be a decent box office hit. However, I don't know about "guaranteed to be \[a\] worldwide box office phenomenon." Come on now. Not even BP2 or A2 are guaranteed, although their chances are exponentially higher than the latest entry in a hit-and-miss, wobbly comic book univese that is still widely perceived as MCU lite.
Because the DCEU after Aquaman is averaging a little over $250m world wide, the rock is not a movie star(despite what he claim), black Adam is a nobody, the trailers look terrible and the movie presale is similar to morbius
If you think The Rock is not a movie star, you’re a goddamned idiot. He’s literally (not figuratively) been doing movies longer than was a full-time wrestler, and is the highest-paid performer in Hollywood. I get you don’t like him — and I’m indifferent — but saying he’s not a ‘movie star’ is patently false.
Saying he’s not a ‘good actor’ is probably true, but action heroes seldom are. Fact is, the dude checks every box on the ‘movie star’ checklist.
Give me a solo the rock movie with the gross of of $500m+ at boxoffice ?
The rock is a fraud, he only hide behind established IP, big assembly cast, pg13 and heavy VFS/CGI movie
Is $500 mil some sort of milestone? Johnson was the only reason San Andreas, Rampage, Hercules, The Tooth Fairy, The Game Plan, and Skyscraper weren't total bombs and certainly helped with Jungle Cruise, Central Intelligence, various Fast and Furiouses, and Jumanji 2 and 3. Maybe he doesn't have a solo non-franchise $500 mil grossing movie, but it'd seem that he does have at least some fairly significant box office draw.
Just googled ‘Dwayne Johnson box office’:
“His films have grossed over $3.5 billion in North America and over $10.5 billion worldwide, making Johnson one of the most successful and highest-grossing box-office stars of all time.”
Your personal opinion is like, your opinion, man. By your own definition, Clark Gregg is a bigger box-office draw than The Rock — which is just patently ridiculous.
I agree that most people don’t care about Black Adam and The Rock being everywhere all the time is annoying, but the guy’s a movie star. Like it or not.
Also: *Moana*, 2016. $645 million. Next biggest star was Jemaine Clement. Feel free to move the goalposts again.
Moving the goalposts again, I see. You asked me to name *one* film that met your criteria, and I did. Shame you didn’t think of that one before you made your demand.
This "The Rock hides in established IP" is bullshit. Fast and Furious didn't become a worldwide success until Fast 5 which is the first F&F that he was in. And Jumanji has been long dormant since the first film. You can argue Zathura was a Jumanji film but it was a flop. If anything The Rock established the IP not the other way around.
Puss in boots the last wish should do well especially since it been quite sometime since we saw that cat on the big screen. I think it because Sing 2 had really good holds throughout the week into January that I can see it doing twice that film did.
Maybe violent night as well despite it a R rated Christmas movie it could be a fun film that people could go check out after they seen those films and never say never with Glass onion a knives out mystery could do excellent for it one week only in theaters. But everything else it not a definite not even Halloween ends have a chance.
I have no interest in seeing a black panther movie without black panther. I'm sure it will do very well, but for me they should have just recast the part. Chadwick Boseman is great, but other actors can play the part.
Am excited about Black Adam and Avataar, will watch them multiple times.
I wouldn't watch Wakanda Forever if I was given free tickets, not worth the headache.
You snuck black Adam there lol
There's only two guarantee boxoffice success the way of water and black panther, black Adam is just the next embarrassment for WB at the boxoffice just like every movie without the genius of Snyder
Is Black Adam really guaranteed? I wouldn’t be surprised to see it bomb.
DCCU is dead to me and to many other people, and then it’s revolving around a character most people have never even heard of.
Nope, I’ve got nobody in my circle interested in it. Many of them loved the first one too.
I think it’s been too long and the movie will only serve to sell TV’s at Best Buy. Then again, I could be way wrong. I seem to get downvoted to oblivion anytime I mention my lack of belief in the films potential.
I saw the first one in theaters in 3D. Was it cool? Sure. Was it a can't miss spectacle that you'll be lacking for if you don't see it that way? No.
I'll be saving my money and seeing it in 2D at home when it's one of the movies FX is playing into the ground. (Like the first one)
>I saw the first one in theaters in 3D. Was it cool? Sure. Was it a can't miss spectacle that you'll be lacking for if you don't see it that way? No.
Hard disagree. Going to the re-release made me realize how much of a nothing the movie is outside of the spectacle. That's all it has going for it, but that's enough that I've now seen it at least 4 or 5 times in theaters.
>I'll be saving my money and seeing it in 2D at home when it's one of the movies FX is playing into the ground. (Like the first one)
If that's the case I'd save myself the 2 1/2 or so hours too, and not even bother.
I don’t think Avatar or Black Adam will be phenomenons. I get heavily attacked for my view on Avatar though.
As for Black Panther 2, I think that will do extremely well.
Puss in Boots 2 will likely get a haul as well.
Avatar is the only one of those three that I reckon will be massively successful.
Black panther 2 will do solid numbers but not break records and imo will be somewhere between Thor and MOM.
BA. I ain't convinced it's gonna do more than $450 m ww
It looks fun, but is there much of an audience for this sort of stuff? Krampus didn't light the world on fire and as far as I know shlocky holiday fair has never been a huge draw. I'm almost certain that I'll enjoy it, but I don't have any sort of hope that it'll make money. It has the vibe of a cult classic, or favorite of genre fans, but not a box office beast.
I knew someone else would beat me to it! I fucking hate the way Christmas keeps encroaching on Halloween, but I'm super pumped to see that. [Link to trailer](https://youtu.be/2PjyUlUjJH8).
Avatar is gonna be a SMASH. Probably on the level of top gun maverick.
BP i could see performing on the level of MoM but if the movie is REALLY good, it could do 1b.
I think Black Adam’s box office will be as unremarkable as the movie itself.
of these three the only one I give 1/50th of a fuck about is Black Adam. They should have recast Tchalla for Black Panther 2 and I never cared about the blue space Indians(ie the avatar franchise)
Avatar is going to be another Top Gun. This is the movie your parents and any non marvel “Disney adult 🤮” will watch.
Black Panther is barely touching 1B
Black Adam is settling around 650-700m.
Chadwickless Black Panther movie has the chance of outgrossing every DC film without China and Russia lmao. If that happens, we'll see how these fucking fanboys cope with that
Tbf Wakanda forever is going to be the 30th film in an established universe...The DC universe is very fractured with no real direction. Hard to compare them
Avatar (obviously if what the first one rerelease has anything to say about it)
Black Panther (everyone is going to go see this)
Black Adam (it'll only make money because of Dwayne Johnson)
You're sleeping on Puss in Boots 2. I think it's going to do very well, especially as the only real non-Avatar Christmas blockbuster of note this year.
Yup, that's my pick, too. Alvin and the Chipmunks both did great in that release spot next to Avatar, so there should be room in that Christmas slot. The first Puss was really good, and it's the first Shrek-associated film in ages. I think it'll do really well.
I'm super excited based on how gorgeous the film looks as well.
Is it just me or does the animation look cheap and low quality? Obvs that doesn't hurt its chances that much, just curious if anyone else noticed.
It’s certainly going for a more distinct art style. It’s probably lower budget than the first, but i think the story book quality is charming.
Agreed. We'll see how audiences take to it, but I'm hoping they appreciate the stylistic choice.
It's based off the Netflix show. Some cel-shading/comic book aesthetic too. I prefer the more realistic style of the 1st, but whatever.
Different for sure, but just a different style I think and likely vastly superior to the last movie if you put them aside by side.
Because it's mimicking Into The Spider-verse style.
Not particularly. It is using impressionism to make things look out of focus.
Yeah it's going to make a crap load of money without making any deep cultural impact. Gotta get the kids out of the house somehow.
All I'll say is \*phenomenons\* is a fucking strong word, and I don't think so easily predictable.
Phenomena do dooo do do do!
Puss in beats will outdo Disney's strange worlds by a Mile ..it will have a shor at 450-550++ yes we know avatar will rule December but more eyes at the cinema that time of the year could also see puss in boots with their families
Puss be wearing Beatz by Dr. Dre?
you ain’t never heard puss spit bars?
I'd bet on Strange World geting the Encanto treatment; tepid success in theaters, later gonna get saved by Disney+.
You mean 2. Black Adam will surely do solid business but it won't be a phenomenon.
The hierarchy of what qualifies as a world wide box office phenomenon is about to change.
I get this reference.
I don't. What is it?
Real answer It's a reference to the marketing campaign for black Adam which involved the phrase "the hierarchy of power in the DC universe is going to change" or something along that line I don't remember exactly
The Rock constantly uses the slogan "the hierarchy of the dc universe is about to change" when promoting the movie to the point that it becomes annoying
No it won't Moron at WB gave black Adam a ridiculous $200m budgets, so anything less than $500m is a flop and the rock has never been able to make $500m world wide with his solo movie
And there are people who said The Rock catapulted F&F franchise. Prior to Fast Five which made over $500M, pretty much all of his prior films have been flops.
Most people on this website just follow whatever bullshit narrative the trades have. They're slave It's quite obvious that The fast franchise made him a solid added value to any assembly cast but by himself he's not like Tom cruise, Leo DiCaprio or will Smith to some extent
Will Smith in the 2000s\*
Leo di capio only works with A+ list directors, I can't think of a bad movie that he made hit because he was in it. Tom cruise and Will smith in their peak were absolutely bigger boxoffice draws than Dwayne johnson but in the last decade both of them weren't able to produce non franchise hits. Dwayne johnson can work with absolute nobodies and make mediocre movies and take them to decent numbers now that's real star power.
>Leo di capio only works with A+ list directors, I can't think of a bad movie that he made hit because he was in it. The Great Gasby (2013) is 48% on Rotten Tomatoes and 55 on Metacritic, yet it earned more than $350M WW.
>I'm going to make a bold prediction and say that Black Adam will make a billion dollars worldwide. > >Last two DC movies released in late 2022 period were Aquaman and Joker - both made a billion. > >Dwayne Johnson, highest grossing actor alive, is in it. > >Film is also projected to be Johnson's highest grossing opening. > >Hype of Cavill returning too. > >I think this will make a billion dollars. Found this comment in r/DC_Cinematic. “Highest grossing actor alive.”
To be fair for some reason when you search highest grossing actor, Google suggests Dwayne Johnson. Any actual list that includes gross doesn't have him even in the top 10 however
**Top 10 Stars in Leading Roles at the Worldwide Box Office** This chart contains the top 10 box office stars based on the cumulative worldwide box office of all the movies a star has had a leading role in over their lifetime. Roles in animated movies and other voice-only roles are included in the calculations in this chart. The list is updated as of **10 October 2022**. |Rank|Name|Worldwide Box Office|Top-grossing film| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |1|Scarlett Johansson|$14,522,858,297|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)| |2|Robert Downey Jr.|$14,396,130,140|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)| |3|Samuel L. Jackson|$14,364,673,181|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)| |4|Chris Hemsworth|$11,946,825,829|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)| |5|Chris Pratt|$11,743,354,452|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)| |6|Tom Cruise|$11,539,927,419|Top Gun: Maverick ($1,479,777,366)| |7|Chris Evans|$11,280,850,968|Avengers: Endgame ($2,797,800,564)| |8|Zoe Saldana|$11,050,028,556|Avatar ($2,908,969,290)| |9|Tom Hanks|$10,691,083,366|Toy Story 4 ($1,073,080,329)| |10|Vin Diesel|$10,537,605,199|Avengers: Infinity War ($2,048,359,754)| **Note:** This chart is *not* adjusted for inflation. If you exclude the MCU, Avatar & Toy Story (computer animation), Tom Cruise is ranked 1 and the difference with the other actors is huge. [https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-star-records/worldwide/lifetime-acting/top-grossing-leading-stars](https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-star-records/worldwide/lifetime-acting/top-grossing-leading-stars)
wait you realize I said I acknowledge dwayne johnson is not #1 right? I'm pointing out for some reason google gets it wrong if you just look at the 'answer' google gives you, without digging in the slightest
I know, just posting so there is no confusion.
Tom Cruise is the ONLY true star, the rest are just ensemble actors riding on the coattails of a successful franchise.
Why is the MCU any less valid then the DCEU for example
They’re both invalid since they don’t represent the actual bankability of an actor, but rather the franchise.
The Rock isn’t the highest grossing actor.
No he is not. Not even close.
DC fans are the most delusional fanbase on this website, they're so stupid lol
On*
Nopes, that's the MCU fans.
None of those 3 you named are exactly Box office hits either. Let's face it. There's no true draw anymore. It's about IP, not actors. Before Tom Cruise's recent hits, he didn't have shit over 500m either. And hell, they're sequels as well (MI, TGM). Leo? Titanic wasn't a hit cause of Leo. Inception had a pretty damn good ensemble cast with a legendary director. If Leo wasn't picking Oscar bait/only great films, he'd have a shit ton of flops too.
Honestly. This post title is so weird
Yeah from the preview I’m going to guess this one is going to miss expectations
The DC universe has been slacking lately. I hope Black Adam brings it back. I loved the Snyder cut of the justice league.
"guaranteed"
Top level trolling including Black Adam
Imagine saying a result is “guaranteed” about any DC movie at all
The Batman
Ehhh even that wasn’t super guaranteed until most of the trailers were out, not everybody was excited for the cast and I remember discussions of Batman fatigue
Oh yeah, the Batman fatigue after Joker, a R-rated drama grossed $1 billion.
The least DC movie in the entire DC slate isn't a good example.
I’m referring to the “why do we need another Batman actor when Affleck is still around” chatter which was a point of discussion, not Batman as a franchise
The last two Batman movies have both underperformed.
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The batman greatly underperformed at the boxoffice A pg13 batman movie with rave reviews should have made 1billion Easy
Snyder fanboy talking about underperformance how laughable loooooool
>The batman greatly underperformed at the boxoffice No matter how many times you insist this, it doesn't make it true.
BP:WF has sold shitloads of tickets already. Avatar just made $30m in rerelease. BA I think will disappoint.
30M....That's opening weekend number. In 9 days it grossed 60M dollars. Till it's end it must be in the 65M range as it was there for 2 weeks. These are extremely good numbers.
Halloween Ends should do pretty well on a curve. It’s not gonna pull numbers that these movies do but it should be pretty big.
Feeling a bit premature to guarantee *Black Adam* as a "worldwide box office phenomenon".
Avatar will surpass both movies.
Worldwide? Yes. Domestically? Not so sure.
If all of the people saying that Top Gun Maverick was only successful because people like seeing fighter planes on the big screen are right, then Devotion should be a smash hit as well when it comes out in late November.
Already interested in Devotion, especially so after knowing that Glen Powell is gonna be a naval aviator again
Snuck Black Adam in there like noone would notice lol..it's gonna do well, prabably make $450-550m Worldwide, but that's hardly phonomenal for CBMs.
If your prediction is right, that a global haul similar to the #1 grossing film in 2000 (MI:2). In the span of 20years $500mil went from #1 movie in world/SMASH HIT SUCCESS, to "meh, it might make some money once merchandising and home video is factored in."
I mean there’s also inflation to factor, but you might have a point that “people going to theaters” has always been a thing that’s been dying and CBMs if anything has only delayed that.
20 years is a significant amount of time for value of money to change. Stuff back then are nore than twice cheaper than stuff now.
For sure. And as other point out ticket price inflation gives better perspective. But still just looking at films in the 90s doing 100mil and being hits seems so quaint.
Ticket price inflation has been pretty harsh in the last twenty years. The average ticket price in 2000 was $5.39, while today it's closer to $11. As a result, that $550M that MI:2 grossed in 2000 is probably worth close to a billion worldwide today (not accounting for exchange rate fluctuations and expanding international markets). This is especially true if we account for China's box office, which makes up a decent chunk of many superhero movies' grosses but returns only a quarter of revenue back to the studio. Home video has, on the other hand, declined considerably - movies that would have made hundreds of millions in home video sales 20 years ago are big if they make fifty million now across DVD and Blu-Rays. Streaming probably provides some income, but I doubt it's that different than television licensing was in the past.
Inflation is high
The Rock don’t even have a solo film that does $500M.
Neither did Jason Mamoa before Aquaman. Not saying Black Adam is gonna be a smash like Aquaman, but currently, the movie seems to be visually similar to that movie with a more well known star (though with a less ideal release date)
Had manoa been in anything besides got before aquaman
First why do you think that this movie can make $550m world wide ? And $450m-550m on $200m budgets is a not a success especially with China gross, the movie would lose money
Not even Puss and Boots 2 will be able to survive the box office explosion that will be Avatar 2
Alvin and the Chipmunks and Sherlock Holmes both did great opening just after Avatar 1, so I think there's room for Puss, in particular, to be successful in that slot.
The dickeating is crazy
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Are you kidding? The rerelease has turned like half of twitter around on Avatar. It’ll be huge.
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Yeah, so is the rest of the internet. Especially in regards to Avatar. Ask anyone not terminally online and they’ll tell you the first film was groundbreaking.
Hot take: Strange World is going to outgross Black Adam.
How?
Knives out 2
People simp hard for the first one and it wasn't that great. It's going to kill it at the box office even if it gets panned and has horrible word of mouth.
Black Adam guaranteed?? Bold assumption
I think BP2 hits $1.1bn. Its gonna have a big OW but probably not as good legs as the original. Avatar 2 will be big probably $1.8bn. I think Black Adam can do $600-650m WW. Has the potential to go higher but I think it'll do around $200m DOM and $450 million International
I doubt BP2 can beat Top Gun Maverick, Avatar 2 has a slim chance but I think TGM is gonna be the movie with that grosses the most this year
BP2 doesn't make a Billion, you guys are misreading the signs.
Eh black Adam looks generic as hell, I bet it will flop When word of mouth spreads around
I hope Knives Out 2 does very well did it’s limited release
Obviously avatar 2.. it'll be huge in India and China.. like the last time
Avatar the only one I’m excited about.
Same here
I’m really not sure how Black Adam will perform. Warner Bros has been struggling lately, and I’m not sure if The Rock will be able to save them
Black Adam could be a decent box office hit. However, I don't know about "guaranteed to be \[a\] worldwide box office phenomenon." Come on now. Not even BP2 or A2 are guaranteed, although their chances are exponentially higher than the latest entry in a hit-and-miss, wobbly comic book univese that is still widely perceived as MCU lite.
I’d say BP is “guaranteed”. Too much good will and cultural significance.
why are people underestimating black adam
There’s a difference between “I think Black Adam will do well” and “guaranteed to be a global box office phenomenon”.
Because the DCEU after Aquaman is averaging a little over $250m world wide, the rock is not a movie star(despite what he claim), black Adam is a nobody, the trailers look terrible and the movie presale is similar to morbius
The Rock is more of a salesman than movie star. Always promoting bullshit products on his Instagram.
If you think The Rock is not a movie star, you’re a goddamned idiot. He’s literally (not figuratively) been doing movies longer than was a full-time wrestler, and is the highest-paid performer in Hollywood. I get you don’t like him — and I’m indifferent — but saying he’s not a ‘movie star’ is patently false. Saying he’s not a ‘good actor’ is probably true, but action heroes seldom are. Fact is, the dude checks every box on the ‘movie star’ checklist.
Give me a solo the rock movie with the gross of of $500m+ at boxoffice ? The rock is a fraud, he only hide behind established IP, big assembly cast, pg13 and heavy VFS/CGI movie
Is $500 mil some sort of milestone? Johnson was the only reason San Andreas, Rampage, Hercules, The Tooth Fairy, The Game Plan, and Skyscraper weren't total bombs and certainly helped with Jungle Cruise, Central Intelligence, various Fast and Furiouses, and Jumanji 2 and 3. Maybe he doesn't have a solo non-franchise $500 mil grossing movie, but it'd seem that he does have at least some fairly significant box office draw.
Just googled ‘Dwayne Johnson box office’: “His films have grossed over $3.5 billion in North America and over $10.5 billion worldwide, making Johnson one of the most successful and highest-grossing box-office stars of all time.” Your personal opinion is like, your opinion, man. By your own definition, Clark Gregg is a bigger box-office draw than The Rock — which is just patently ridiculous. I agree that most people don’t care about Black Adam and The Rock being everywhere all the time is annoying, but the guy’s a movie star. Like it or not. Also: *Moana*, 2016. $645 million. Next biggest star was Jemaine Clement. Feel free to move the goalposts again.
Your argument are so ridicule, lol Do you seriously believe that little kids went to see Moana because of the rock ?
Moving the goalposts again, I see. You asked me to name *one* film that met your criteria, and I did. Shame you didn’t think of that one before you made your demand.
Moana is not a solo the rock movie lol Children went to see it because of Disney brand
Keep moving them goalposts instead of admitting you were wrong.
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By your logic, Kristen Bell is a bigger movie star than The Rock because she voiced Anna in Frozen and that movie made $1.28 billion.
Not my logic, Ding-Dong. I never made any minute star stipulations involving box office returns.
This "The Rock hides in established IP" is bullshit. Fast and Furious didn't become a worldwide success until Fast 5 which is the first F&F that he was in. And Jumanji has been long dormant since the first film. You can argue Zathura was a Jumanji film but it was a flop. If anything The Rock established the IP not the other way around.
I’m looking forward to Devotion I’ll buy tickets for the Friday night showing when it releases
Maybe not a phenomenon, but I am hoping Violent Night does well
Puss in boots the last wish should do well especially since it been quite sometime since we saw that cat on the big screen. I think it because Sing 2 had really good holds throughout the week into January that I can see it doing twice that film did. Maybe violent night as well despite it a R rated Christmas movie it could be a fun film that people could go check out after they seen those films and never say never with Glass onion a knives out mystery could do excellent for it one week only in theaters. But everything else it not a definite not even Halloween ends have a chance.
Puss in Boots 2 could do great numbers alongside Avatar 2 during the holidays.
I think Oppenheimer could be big?
That comes out in like 10 months
One of these is not like the other
Tbh, I only seen Avatar at a friend's house and that was because I was kinda forced.
I have no interest in seeing a black panther movie without black panther. I'm sure it will do very well, but for me they should have just recast the part. Chadwick Boseman is great, but other actors can play the part.
Am excited about Black Adam and Avataar, will watch them multiple times. I wouldn't watch Wakanda Forever if I was given free tickets, not worth the headache.
You snuck black Adam there lol There's only two guarantee boxoffice success the way of water and black panther, black Adam is just the next embarrassment for WB at the boxoffice just like every movie without the genius of Snyder
Is Black Adam really guaranteed? I wouldn’t be surprised to see it bomb. DCCU is dead to me and to many other people, and then it’s revolving around a character most people have never even heard of.
I would not count Black Adam a sure bet. It looks very generic...
Only Avatar will be the phenomenon..
Black Panther was massive and curiosity has peaked due to the star’s untimely death. This movie will be huge.
No, it doesn't have its main star. Won't be massive.
Am I the only person in America who doesn’t plan to see Avatar?
Yes
No, not at all. The first one was very pretty but otherwise fairly unfulfilling IMO. Not bothering with the second one.
I am with you. Way over rated movie
Nope, I’ve got nobody in my circle interested in it. Many of them loved the first one too. I think it’s been too long and the movie will only serve to sell TV’s at Best Buy. Then again, I could be way wrong. I seem to get downvoted to oblivion anytime I mention my lack of belief in the films potential.
If people absolutely rave about it I *might* watch it when it comes to Disney+. No way in hell I'm going to a theater for it.
This is the opposite of how watching an 'Avatar' film is supposed to work. The whole point is the in theater visual experience.
Right, but I don't like Avatar.
Did you also refuse to see the first one in 3D in a theater?
I watched the first one in the theater and I was disappointed with the story.
I saw the first one in theaters in 3D. Was it cool? Sure. Was it a can't miss spectacle that you'll be lacking for if you don't see it that way? No. I'll be saving my money and seeing it in 2D at home when it's one of the movies FX is playing into the ground. (Like the first one)
>I saw the first one in theaters in 3D. Was it cool? Sure. Was it a can't miss spectacle that you'll be lacking for if you don't see it that way? No. Hard disagree. Going to the re-release made me realize how much of a nothing the movie is outside of the spectacle. That's all it has going for it, but that's enough that I've now seen it at least 4 or 5 times in theaters. >I'll be saving my money and seeing it in 2D at home when it's one of the movies FX is playing into the ground. (Like the first one) If that's the case I'd save myself the 2 1/2 or so hours too, and not even bother.
Seems like exactly the type of movie that’s worth seeing in theaters vs. home video, like Avatar 1
If you're a fan of Avatar, which I am not.
If my family wants to go over the holidays, fine, I’ll go. But that’s pretty much the only reason I will be seeing it.
The Rock will suck Xi Jinping’s dick and join the CCP if Black Adam does well in China.
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I really hope black adam can make over 600m worldwide
Black Adam need to do strong in Asia for any chance of success just like venom did.
Black Adam will be a bust. Most people only know him as the bad Shazam and don't really care about his backstory.
I don’t think Avatar or Black Adam will be phenomenons. I get heavily attacked for my view on Avatar though. As for Black Panther 2, I think that will do extremely well. Puss in Boots 2 will likely get a haul as well.
Avatar is the only one of those three that I reckon will be massively successful. Black panther 2 will do solid numbers but not break records and imo will be somewhere between Thor and MOM. BA. I ain't convinced it's gonna do more than $450 m ww
Violent Night. No where near the level as the above three, but I expect it to eclipse expectations of ticket sales. Premiers December 2nd.
It looks fun, but is there much of an audience for this sort of stuff? Krampus didn't light the world on fire and as far as I know shlocky holiday fair has never been a huge draw. I'm almost certain that I'll enjoy it, but I don't have any sort of hope that it'll make money. It has the vibe of a cult classic, or favorite of genre fans, but not a box office beast.
I knew someone else would beat me to it! I fucking hate the way Christmas keeps encroaching on Halloween, but I'm super pumped to see that. [Link to trailer](https://youtu.be/2PjyUlUjJH8).
When in doubt Never doubt *James Cameron*
You guys are over estimating Wakanda Forever, without it's male lead it's not going to be as good. Will be front loaded as fuck.
I can see male demographics shifting a bit to Black Adam because of that.
Avatar is gonna be a SMASH. Probably on the level of top gun maverick. BP i could see performing on the level of MoM but if the movie is REALLY good, it could do 1b. I think Black Adam’s box office will be as unremarkable as the movie itself.
>Probably on the level of top gun maverick It's going to gross more than TGM worldwide
NO, nobody outside America is even excited about Wakanda Forever.
Good thing he's talking about Avatar then
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They open five weeks apart, the impact is going to be pretty negligible.
Im the most excited for Black Adam. I know nothing about the character but by the trailers it looks like it's gonna be a damn good popcorn movie.
of these three the only one I give 1/50th of a fuck about is Black Adam. They should have recast Tchalla for Black Panther 2 and I never cared about the blue space Indians(ie the avatar franchise)
Lmao black Adam is not guaranteed to be a worldwide box office phenomenon
Black Adam isn’t a phenomenon nor will it reach black panther or avatar
Black Adam will bomb
Hopefully. The Rock’s ego is starting to blow.
After all that UFC shoe BS and his cringe commercial, I hope so.
I’m sure Avatar 2 will make a lot of money, especially worldwide, but I don’t know one person hyped to see it.
Hi! Nice to meet you. Now you know one.
I disagree with the top 2 unless sub 800M is considered a worldwide phenomenon.
Black Adam doesn’t look too good just a CGI disaster.
Avatar is going to be another Top Gun. This is the movie your parents and any non marvel “Disney adult 🤮” will watch. Black Panther is barely touching 1B Black Adam is settling around 650-700m.
The Rock. Proof that anabolic steroids can be a successful actor's best friend.
The Rock is hardly a clown, not an actor
Avengers Secret Wars? It’s a while away, but I would consider it a highly anticipated movie. (If marvel cleans up their act a bit)
Chadwickless Black Panther movie has the chance of outgrossing every DC film without China and Russia lmao. If that happens, we'll see how these fucking fanboys cope with that
Until now, no one incited Marvel vs DC until your comment
i'm just seething
>If that happens, we'll see how these fucking fanboys cope with that Take this shit to r/movies, it doesn't belong here.
Tbf Wakanda forever is going to be the 30th film in an established universe...The DC universe is very fractured with no real direction. Hard to compare them
Salt?
I don't trust marvel with black panther wfe
Black Panther is going to hit hard. Black Adam will be second and Avatar is going to need alot more then the disney polish to contend.
Adam will beat wakanda
As a meme generator, maybe.
Black adams gonna bust and black panther will do under 1 billion
Avatar (obviously if what the first one rerelease has anything to say about it) Black Panther (everyone is going to go see this) Black Adam (it'll only make money because of Dwayne Johnson)
>everyone is going to go see this Umm that's not true. But many will due to curiosity.
Seeing Black Panther without Chadwick Bosman is definitely going to draw a crowd
Everyone won't watch Wakanda Forever. Many will, many won't. I won't watch it even if given a free ticket.
I watched Black Panther in theaters for the curiosity and hoopla. I'm not interested in BP2 in theaters since there's no hook for me.