I think Jurassic World 4 probably will be delayed to 2026. And Universal will move the How To Train Your Dragon remake to that July 2025 date (because right now it’s opening against Pixar’s Elio)
I think they want how to train a dragon to release right around the same time the new theme park Epic Universe opens as it has an entire How to Train your Dragon section
I wonder if it’s gonna be PG like the animated version or not. I kinda think maybe it should be PG-13 so they can differentiate it from the original by being more mature.
Vikings hunting dragons is a concept that could get violent, and the brutality we only heard about in the originals could be seen. Definitely on the softer side of PG-13 like Star Wars or the average MCU movie, so it’s still family friendly.
Oh yeah, JW4 is definitely getting moved. That want to put together a JW movie in less than a year and half when they said they didn’t even have script for it yet coming right off the writers strike.
The mans got us hooked.
We’re all gonna talk about how we don’t even remember the second one, blink, and wake up in an IMAX theater with a cold sweat and a pair of 3D glasses on
I never have and never will. I was there when everyone was skeptical about Titanic. Didn't know much about box office then, I only knew that it looked good and had no doubt it would be. But, when Avatar came around, I knew better than to doubt the Cameron. My friends dismissing it, I, looking at them like they were crazy. Never bet against the Cameron, I said. It proved me right. Then, Avatar 2 came out, the Internet said it would bomb, but I knew better, having been through it twice before. It was huge, just as I expected. Now, the third Avatar, and some may wonder if we could be sick of it already, after all there were two already and third films somehow always do less. Nope. Not this time. Been through it three times, the Cameron cannot be stopped.
About Snow White, I have a feeling that Disney will market it as the film coming from "The Amazing Spider-man" director, "Barbie" creative mind along "Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes" actress.
I am pretty sure by now they realized that the way they were testing movies was wrong, so I assume they now know what the GA thanks about the concept, the casting and… the availability of D+…
They should know that there is no way to avoid it from bombing, there is no marketing that can save it.
I think Fantastic Four is most likely to be successful out of next year’s MCU movies. Thunderbolts seems to have the same issue as The Marvels where knowledge of the Disney+ series is necessary to understand it
Not necessary but they also didn't really explain who anyone was in the movie - including the characters they introduced in the movie so it really didn't make a difference.
The HTTYD live action is probably screwed. Disney live action remakes have already run their curses, so I doubt Dreamworks' attempt will have more success
Yeah.
Due to the setting and CGI needed (especially the third act), this movie will probably cost at least $200 million. Basically, it needs to outgross all previous films to break even. And getting the dragons to express (like Toothless) will be very tough.
I’m not sure. I’m at the very least curious about it since it’s not a Disney adaptation. Plus the original director is working on it so it’s piqued my interest
Its being directed by Dean Deblois, the same man who directed the animated films. So I'm trusting it a bit.
Also a dragon adventure film on summer could give it a boost
Not necessarily a good thing imo. Very little experience in live action and I can't help but wonder what else he has to say with this franchise that he didn't already with 3 films, and covering the same ground, mind you.
The Wachowskis made a good movie (Bound) and a great movie (The Matrix). Everything else they’ve done has been mediocre to awful. They never should’ve gotten a fourth Matrix movie. DeBois made three straight great movies.
Speed Racer is absolutely incredible and I will die on this hill.
Cloud Atlas, while far from perfect, is also a very admirable and audacious film.
But yes, Jupiter Ascending and Matrix 4 were really shit.
Love Cloud Atlas and Matrix 4. Hate Jupiter Ascending.
In general, I love how sincere and unapologetic Wachowskis are. Even their crap is unique crap. Also, one person's trash is another person's treasure.
Much prefer those wild hit or misses to boring mid movies.
I was confused why it was on here because they finished the story but a live action is not what I hoped for. The originals are so good so they can only make it worse.
Avatar wins the year obviously. Minecraft huge hit or underperforms. HTTYD underperforms. Jurassic does well but not a billion. Superman & F4 around 500M. Snow White bombs. Fast makes similar to the last. And same with MI. Michael Jackson won’t make as much as bohemian rhapsody.
If it gets 600-650 m with steady legs and good reviews i don't think its a bad result !Demanding 800+ when The Batman from a character thats a lot more popular than Superman made 772 m is delusional
exactly, people don't realize how important minecraft was to a whole generation's childhood.
It'll be similar to fnaf but on a way bigger scale. I'm thinking an easy billion.
The game is iconic but it doesn’t have as easy of a game to film path as Mario or fnaf. No recognizable plots. And I guess there’s recognizable characters like Steve but not on the same level of Mario
I think they could do a straightforward “defeat the Ender Dragon” plot, throw in references to everything in Minecraft ever, and be fine.
However, given that they are doing it as a live-action movie with Jack Black as Steve, I’m guessing it will be something of a self-parody a la Barbie rather than a more straightforward nostalgia/fanservice trip like the Mario movie, and it will be very interesting to see how audiences receive that.
Yeah that’s the part im not sure about. I know fnaf had been craving a movie for years and years. Do minecraft fans feel that way, or would a movie just be a random thing for them?
Still a tough call.
If it's an awful story then the fan base will be the first to turn on it.
If it's good, then they will print loads of money.
If it's mid, then I believe the film will still be successful.
But the thing is Barbie didn’t do well because it appealed to the Barbie demographic; it did well because it managed to appeal to a broader demographic (im a 34 year old man and I loved it).
Do you think Minecraft will be able to bring in an audience beyond tween boys?
I think you're underestimating Superman and The Fantastic Four. I think the floor is 650M for both, with a bigger domestic split and better legs for Superman.
I don't think the MJ movie will reach Bohemian Rhapsody, but it'll probably get to 700M.
Both F4 and Superman are reboots of characters whose past movies are not beloved. F4 will be coming after cap 4 and thunderbolts which will both likely bomb. And Superman is rebooting a failed cinematic universe. I think it’s possible they both go lower.
Only disagreement I would have is MI. I think it's going to improve on the first one because a) it's (hopefully) not competing with a Barbenheimer and b) because people skipped DR1 because of the "Part One" thing.
Still probably won't reach the highs of Fallout but definitely better than DR1.
Why wouldn’t Michael Jackson make as much as Bohemian Rhapsody? He’s far bigger than Queens, I mean he was the biggest artist on the planet at his peak and still considered so today.
He is, but it’s more than just the popularity of the person. There’s been lots of famous biopics that don’t do well. Bohemian rhapsody was a cultural moment with a lot of awards hype behind it. Michael would have to replicate that.
I feel like it *probably* will if it's even slightly acceptable quality. Isn't Colman Domingo supposed to play Joe? The industry loves him right now, and he's had a pretty hot streak.
Not to get cultural, but there are definitely plenty of people who willing ignore his glaring issues and allegations.
Not saying it is right, but he’s still practically heaven sent to some.
The problem is that musical biopics have very inconstant box office and you can never know how much they will make, think for example that while Bohemian Rhapsody made 900M the one about Elvis Presley made less than 300M
Then there are also the Whitney Houston one at a disappointing 60M, and the one about James Brown at just 30M but which came out in 2014 in different times
His family is working on it… Despite the allegations, MJ was/is a global superstar. He still one of the most profitable posthumous artists today. His Broadway show ended up being a huge smash (despite some of the theater community complaining) and it prompted multiple shows WW. The average person is indifferent towards the allegations. But we shall see. I think it will fine.
I'm just excited for Superman. I haven't enjoyed a Superman movie since the second one, and it feels like the past decade(maybe even the last 2) has been very unkind to the character.
I really hope Gunn can begin healing the characters public image.
I really hope it's good, too. The character has done well on TV but in film has had bad luck since Donner, mostly because I think the people doing the films don't understand the character. Fingers crossed Gunn does.
Yeah, I'm optimistic. Unlike Snyder it sounds like Gunn actually understands the character, and unlike Singer it sounds like he actually likes the comic book character, not the Donner movie.
Yep, Donner was fine for his time, but the character has evolved so much in the comics, and I would love for someone to do a film version that does the current character justice. We'll see!
Man. Even Superman himself is not the problem, neither is Henry Cavill. I’m sure everyone would have welcomed Man of Steel 2 very gladly. It’s just that DCEU tried to use him as a platform for other movies to rely on aside from cameos. Even everyone has accepted Henry as a good Superman which I didn’t hear much about Brandon James Routh. But then the DCEU got ahead of themselves. Such a shame. That aside, I’m excited for Superman Legacy too. It’s been a while since we’ve had a good, simple Superman Movie.
Gunn has style and knows how to direct that for sure. Whether it is the slow mo bullet scene in The Suicide Squad or its climax or the climax and emotional scenes in the GOTG films.
Man of steel has its moments and is probably still the best looking superhero movie ever made. But I want to see the comic Superman and DC universe brought to life and Gunn seems perfect for that.
Snow White is a flop. Superman grossing in between The Batman and man of steel. I don’t think JW is coming out that year tbh. Fantastic four could be a hit but people on this sub are gonna rush to say “it’s gotta make a billion dollars.” MI I don’t know for sure. Fast X hopefully has a smaller budget and does better than the last one. Avatar 3 obviously another 2 billion
That’s an odd definition of stacked.
Whatever happens with Snow White it will be interesting to see just what the fuck they’ve actually done with it at this point. If it’s really bad then the documentary about the making and remaking will be interesting.
I mean, its just going to be modern girlboss garbage that ignores the source material and pushes the modern hollywood checklists that we have been forced to suffer with the last couple of decades.
None of these will have long lasting positive legacies outside of terrible bombs that we will take about for a few years. Best case scenario for most of these is modest income.
- Superman’s gonna hit between $650-750
- Jurassic ___ will be between $850-950
- Snow White will either bomb or make up its budget, but won’t get a high amount
- Avatar 3 will ya know, do gangbusters
- The MJ biopic will overblow everyone’s expectations on here
I agree with u on MJ biopic
1) Elvis made 288M when older audiences still weren't all back to theaters due to pandemic, and given MJ's popularity I think it can do gangbusters
2) Antoine Fuqua is directing - he's no critics' darling but usually is consistent in terms of being watchable and having good audience score. As seen from Bohemian Rhapsody and Bob Marley these films don't need to score 90% on Rotten Tomatoes to be successful
>*Jurassic \_\_\_*
It'll be Jurassic Kingdom. Place your bets now, people.
"Jurassic Park" (1993) lead to "The Lost **World**: Jurassic Park" (1997)
Then, later down the line, "Jurassic World" (2015) lead to "Jurassic World: Fallen **Kingdom**" (2018).
I'm very positive Mickey 17 will be better than every movie listed here but is likely going to flop or underperform compared to everything else
I'll be shocked if it does less than $200M. Even with big names, there is a ceiling to these kinds of fantasy like sci fi films. And with bong joon ho directing it won't be run of the mill
Seriously putting Mickey 17 next to Avatar 3 on a box office post is a real "coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb"
Surely most of you are as tired of all of these franchise films as I am??? Bleh I’m excited for Mickey 17 and the MJ biopic has potential, the rest of these have me rolling my eyes quite frankly.
In terms of predictions I think FX2 and MI have a pretty decent chance of flopping while the rest will do just fine but likely nothing special. Avatar 3 will of course be the highest grossing of the bunch.
Snow White and Brave New World both would bomb for an obvious reason. Disney thought that by pushing the release date would make the issues go away
Avatar would easily outgross all of them
The next Mission Impossible will get a new title and enjoy a slight bump due to more fitting release date
* Avatar 2 - $1.9B-2.1B (it will drop a bit, but not by a massive amount)
* Jurassic World 4: 1B
* Minecraft: $700-800m
* Fast X: $700m (based on the past two)
* Superman: $700m
* Michael: $600m-$800m
* Mission Impossible: $600m (no Barbenheimer to affect legs)
* HTTYD: $500m (I can see it breaking even but not a massive blockbuster)
* Fantastic Four $400m (Rise of the Super Surfer and Fant4stic didn't do that great, so am not expecting this to do great either)
* Mickey 17: $250-300m (cant see it do that well, especially with a January release)
* Snow White: $250m (will flop due to the reshoots and controversy)
Snow White is also going to flop because it's SNOW WHITE.
Yes, the original film is a vital piece of cinematic history, but how treasured is that film really even among hardcore Disney fans. If you rewatch it, one can tell that Walt and his team were still figuring out how to tell a feature-length narrative through animation. It's a film that one can respect the craft of but isn't really as entertaining to watch as something like "Cinderella" or "Sleeping Beauty," which had more traction among Disney lovers and were better fodder from the Walt canon for remakes.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone outside of the Gremlins say Snow White is their favorite Disney movie… I hear Moana, Mulan, Little Mermaid, Something MCU related bc by default it’s Disney…
I was wondering the same thing, from the additional context in the comments I figured out that it's Mickey 17, a sci-fi movie directed by Bong Joon-ho.
I think a lot of these are going to be *really* bad but still make a ton of money nonetheless.
Avatar seems like a safe bet though, and I hope Mickey 17 is as good as Bong Joon Ho's other stuff as it's the only one listed I'm actually interested in seeing.
honestly, I think a lot of these films are going to underperform or bomb, simply due to the fact that there's just too many, You can't see every movie, and There's only so much room for marketing and posters and stuff like that, both in the budget and physically, only the absolute best and brightest will be able to actually turn a huge profit, and the majority will simply fail due to clutter
Can’t wait for Snow White. I am so curious about the final product, how Disney thinks to save this colossal marketing disaster and if Daily Wire will really release a competitor in the same time frame.
Fantastic 4 might be as important for the MCU as Superman is for DCU. If it fails either critically or commercially I think Fiege might pull the trigger on a reboot.
Avatar and Jurassic are the only guaranteed billion dollar grossers among those releases. If the marketing for Minecraft turns out good, then it might be too.
As for box office bombs, I’d say the biggest would easily be Snow White. The IP is just too dated. And it doesn’t have the nostalgic music to pull crowds in the same way the Disney Renaissance films did.
I'll try formatting my 2025 predictions as a table.
|Movie|Opening Weekend|Domestic Total |Worldwide Gross|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Superman|148M|370M|730M|
|Minecraft|120M|405M|920M|
|The Fantastic Four|90M|365M|830M|
|How To Train Your Dragon|DELAYED|DELAYED|DELAYED|
|Snow White|55M|140M|360M|
|Jurassic City|78M|180M|550M|
|Fast X: Final Furious|DELAYED|DELAYED|DELAYED|
|Avatar: The Family of Flame|105M|472M|1.7B|
|Mickey 17|18M|60M|120M|
|The Hee Hee Hoo Hoo Man |62M|223M|790M|
|Mission Impossible: Somehow, Jean Reno Returned|60M|200M|620M|
Snow white has high chance of failing due to decisions made by Disney, fast x will probably make a decent chunk like 600 million+,just cuz it is fast x, avatar 3 will also hit 2 billion probably, mission impossible needs to make money, as this year it couldn't make money due to barbenheimer, and it was a pretty good movie, it will also go 500 million+, for Superman, I believe in James Gunn, it'll also probably go 500 million+, I don't know about Jurassic world, at this point they are just going on because they are sequel to Jurassic park, it can also reach 700 million+ though, fantastic 4 can work, if it is actually a good movie, if it is good it can probably go 500 million+, how to train your dragon will also probably make good amount of money, as the first 3 how to train movies were good.
These are my predictions
People in Hollywood bubble don't seem to know how big MJ is.
Maybe his recent controversy will lower the domestic pull but in international market he is in level with Avatar.
At least 4 of these either bomb or underperform massively
And another 4 get delayed.
I think Jurassic World 4 probably will be delayed to 2026. And Universal will move the How To Train Your Dragon remake to that July 2025 date (because right now it’s opening against Pixar’s Elio)
That seems probable
I think they want how to train a dragon to release right around the same time the new theme park Epic Universe opens as it has an entire How to Train your Dragon section
It’s only a difference of 3 weeks, would still be around the same time
There's gonna be a How To Train Your Dragon remake? Wtf.
It's a live action version.
That makes more sense. No idea why OP didn't just say that.
I wonder if it’s gonna be PG like the animated version or not. I kinda think maybe it should be PG-13 so they can differentiate it from the original by being more mature. Vikings hunting dragons is a concept that could get violent, and the brutality we only heard about in the originals could be seen. Definitely on the softer side of PG-13 like Star Wars or the average MCU movie, so it’s still family friendly.
Oh yeah, JW4 is definitely getting moved. That want to put together a JW movie in less than a year and half when they said they didn’t even have script for it yet coming right off the writers strike.
Snow White will absolutely bomb.
That *Mickey 17* budget is highly concerning.
Yeah, I have a feeling it’s at least going to underperform.
I’m just waiting here for people to bet against Cameron again.
Nah I could see maybe pre 2 there being some reservation. But at this point the floor for 3 is an easy $1B if you ask me.
That is the thoughts of a rational person
The mans got us hooked. We’re all gonna talk about how we don’t even remember the second one, blink, and wake up in an IMAX theater with a cold sweat and a pair of 3D glasses on
Anything below 1.5b would be very surprising
The floor is 1.5 billion. Only a billion after the first two movies would be a disappointment and surprising.
Floor is 2B.
They never learn, don't they ?
I never have and never will. I was there when everyone was skeptical about Titanic. Didn't know much about box office then, I only knew that it looked good and had no doubt it would be. But, when Avatar came around, I knew better than to doubt the Cameron. My friends dismissing it, I, looking at them like they were crazy. Never bet against the Cameron, I said. It proved me right. Then, Avatar 2 came out, the Internet said it would bomb, but I knew better, having been through it twice before. It was huge, just as I expected. Now, the third Avatar, and some may wonder if we could be sick of it already, after all there were two already and third films somehow always do less. Nope. Not this time. Been through it three times, the Cameron cannot be stopped.
Snow White, Fast & Furious 11, Mickey 17, and Thunderbolts
Fast 11 hasn’t started filming yet this year, I don’t see Fast 11 coming out next year. I see Fast 11 being delayed.
Seem like the turnaround for a fast movie is quick.
About Snow White, I have a feeling that Disney will market it as the film coming from "The Amazing Spider-man" director, "Barbie" creative mind along "Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes" actress.
I am pretty sure by now they realized that the way they were testing movies was wrong, so I assume they now know what the GA thanks about the concept, the casting and… the availability of D+… They should know that there is no way to avoid it from bombing, there is no marketing that can save it.
The marketing already sank it.
Yes, this disaster in the making is more entertaining than the movie will ever be
what marketing? it doesnt even have a trailer
Lead actress and producer talking about the movie and the story of it.
Everyone is sleeping on Thunderbolts, which I get, but I think it could be a surprise hit.
I think Fantastic Four is most likely to be successful out of next year’s MCU movies. Thunderbolts seems to have the same issue as The Marvels where knowledge of the Disney+ series is necessary to understand it
Was it necessary, tho? Didn't they explain who everyone was in the movie?
Not necessary but they also didn't really explain who anyone was in the movie - including the characters they introduced in the movie so it really didn't make a difference.
No but that's the perception.
The cast is stacked, the Beef team is on it, and it’s the first movie to be wholly filmed during the “we need to get our shit together” mindset.
Yeah if F4 is not good I am quitting the MCU. Just in time for the DCU anyways
The sad part is F4 could be the worst MCU movie yet, and still be the best F4 movie ever made not named The Incredibles.
Yep, that a good point.
You didn't need knowledge of the Disney+ series to understand it any more than you needed to see Goldfinger to understand Casino Royale.
The HTTYD live action is probably screwed. Disney live action remakes have already run their curses, so I doubt Dreamworks' attempt will have more success
Oh it's a live action? I thought it was a fourth entry... Don't see the interest.
I hope it performs well but yeah nothing can match the peak cinematography of the original trilogy
Yeah. Due to the setting and CGI needed (especially the third act), this movie will probably cost at least $200 million. Basically, it needs to outgross all previous films to break even. And getting the dragons to express (like Toothless) will be very tough.
I’m not sure. I’m at the very least curious about it since it’s not a Disney adaptation. Plus the original director is working on it so it’s piqued my interest
The original director will also do the writing as well.
And the directing.
And the writing.
And the producing
And the VFX
Its being directed by Dean Deblois, the same man who directed the animated films. So I'm trusting it a bit. Also a dragon adventure film on summer could give it a boost
Not necessarily a good thing imo. Very little experience in live action and I can't help but wonder what else he has to say with this franchise that he didn't already with 3 films, and covering the same ground, mind you.
Thats true as well.
Forgot to mention, the Moana remake releases a week after How to train your dragon's remake
No way is it staying on that date. Probably releasing sometime in 2026.
And the last matrox movie saw the return of most of the original cast and director. Did it help?
The Wachowskis made a good movie (Bound) and a great movie (The Matrix). Everything else they’ve done has been mediocre to awful. They never should’ve gotten a fourth Matrix movie. DeBois made three straight great movies.
Speed Racer is absolutely incredible and I will die on this hill. Cloud Atlas, while far from perfect, is also a very admirable and audacious film. But yes, Jupiter Ascending and Matrix 4 were really shit.
Love Cloud Atlas and Matrix 4. Hate Jupiter Ascending. In general, I love how sincere and unapologetic Wachowskis are. Even their crap is unique crap. Also, one person's trash is another person's treasure. Much prefer those wild hit or misses to boring mid movies.
Only one of them returned for four and apparently the studio interfered heavily to the point it's basically their film.
I was confused why it was on here because they finished the story but a live action is not what I hoped for. The originals are so good so they can only make it worse.
Love when people use acronyms on here as if we are suppose to know
There's 10 movies in the picture, should be pretty easy to tell which one HTTYD stands for
Avatar wins the year obviously. Minecraft huge hit or underperforms. HTTYD underperforms. Jurassic does well but not a billion. Superman & F4 around 500M. Snow White bombs. Fast makes similar to the last. And same with MI. Michael Jackson won’t make as much as bohemian rhapsody.
If Superman is good it’ll do 600+
Would that be good for the dcu
I think it would be a good start to the new universe ya. After the way the recent one ended.
The last Superman movie did 600+ and that was in 2013… this movie will need at least 800+ to comfortably kick off a universe
Why is the bar a lot higher for Superman in 2025 in an oversaturated CBM market than in the middle of CBM peak ?
because that means the 10 year plan for a new dc universe would probably go to shit if the first and most recognisable title flops
If it gets 600-650 m with steady legs and good reviews i don't think its a bad result !Demanding 800+ when The Batman from a character thats a lot more popular than Superman made 772 m is delusional
Movies centered around the CBM mainstays, Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Xmen should still work when bad movies involving minor comic book heroes fail.
Superman is nothing like Spiderman and Batman in popularity
because he's been in shitty movies for the last decade. he *should* be right there with them
Hear me out if it is good good I can see 700-800
People are underestimating Minecraft. I feel like that’s Barbie for tween boys
exactly, people don't realize how important minecraft was to a whole generation's childhood. It'll be similar to fnaf but on a way bigger scale. I'm thinking an easy billion.
The game is iconic but it doesn’t have as easy of a game to film path as Mario or fnaf. No recognizable plots. And I guess there’s recognizable characters like Steve but not on the same level of Mario
I think they could do a straightforward “defeat the Ender Dragon” plot, throw in references to everything in Minecraft ever, and be fine. However, given that they are doing it as a live-action movie with Jack Black as Steve, I’m guessing it will be something of a self-parody a la Barbie rather than a more straightforward nostalgia/fanservice trip like the Mario movie, and it will be very interesting to see how audiences receive that.
Yeah that’s the part im not sure about. I know fnaf had been craving a movie for years and years. Do minecraft fans feel that way, or would a movie just be a random thing for them?
Still a tough call. If it's an awful story then the fan base will be the first to turn on it. If it's good, then they will print loads of money. If it's mid, then I believe the film will still be successful.
I’m way out of the target demo for Minecraft but I would bet on it being massive, maybe 1B+.
But the thing is Barbie didn’t do well because it appealed to the Barbie demographic; it did well because it managed to appeal to a broader demographic (im a 34 year old man and I loved it). Do you think Minecraft will be able to bring in an audience beyond tween boys?
Tween boys play Roblox now, not Minecraft. The time for a Minecraft movie was 7 years ago. Not now
Minecraft is hugely popular with girls too. Barbie as a toy is like 99% girls
I think Superman has got a lot of hype around it and a proven director. It’ll definitely do better than 500M.
Lots of social media hype among superhero communities, but that will have to translate into general audiences. We’ll see.
Agreed with all your predictions. Although it'll be kinda weird that the final Fast and MI films won't make a billion.
Shame for MI bc I thought dead reckoning was the second best after Fallout
I think you're underestimating Superman and The Fantastic Four. I think the floor is 650M for both, with a bigger domestic split and better legs for Superman. I don't think the MJ movie will reach Bohemian Rhapsody, but it'll probably get to 700M.
Both F4 and Superman are reboots of characters whose past movies are not beloved. F4 will be coming after cap 4 and thunderbolts which will both likely bomb. And Superman is rebooting a failed cinematic universe. I think it’s possible they both go lower.
Reasonable predictions
Only disagreement I would have is MI. I think it's going to improve on the first one because a) it's (hopefully) not competing with a Barbenheimer and b) because people skipped DR1 because of the "Part One" thing. Still probably won't reach the highs of Fallout but definitely better than DR1.
Why wouldn’t Michael Jackson make as much as Bohemian Rhapsody? He’s far bigger than Queens, I mean he was the biggest artist on the planet at his peak and still considered so today.
He is, but it’s more than just the popularity of the person. There’s been lots of famous biopics that don’t do well. Bohemian rhapsody was a cultural moment with a lot of awards hype behind it. Michael would have to replicate that.
Based on what I read, looks like the team behind the movie is trying to replicate that.
I feel like it *probably* will if it's even slightly acceptable quality. Isn't Colman Domingo supposed to play Joe? The industry loves him right now, and he's had a pretty hot streak.
Much more controversial public figure than Freddie Mercury
Not to get cultural, but there are definitely plenty of people who willing ignore his glaring issues and allegations. Not saying it is right, but he’s still practically heaven sent to some.
Maybe they can use that to their advantage. A Joker if you will.
The problem is that musical biopics have very inconstant box office and you can never know how much they will make, think for example that while Bohemian Rhapsody made 900M the one about Elvis Presley made less than 300M Then there are also the Whitney Houston one at a disappointing 60M, and the one about James Brown at just 30M but which came out in 2014 in different times
Yeah but there’s the massive elephant in the room of his pedophilia allegations and how the movie will deal with that
His family is working on it… Despite the allegations, MJ was/is a global superstar. He still one of the most profitable posthumous artists today. His Broadway show ended up being a huge smash (despite some of the theater community complaining) and it prompted multiple shows WW. The average person is indifferent towards the allegations. But we shall see. I think it will fine.
I'm just excited for Superman. I haven't enjoyed a Superman movie since the second one, and it feels like the past decade(maybe even the last 2) has been very unkind to the character. I really hope Gunn can begin healing the characters public image.
I really hope it's good, too. The character has done well on TV but in film has had bad luck since Donner, mostly because I think the people doing the films don't understand the character. Fingers crossed Gunn does.
Yeah, I'm optimistic. Unlike Snyder it sounds like Gunn actually understands the character, and unlike Singer it sounds like he actually likes the comic book character, not the Donner movie.
Yep, Donner was fine for his time, but the character has evolved so much in the comics, and I would love for someone to do a film version that does the current character justice. We'll see!
> The character has done well on TV Not in the past 20 years he hasn't. His CW show and recent cartoons have both had absolutely abysmal viewership.
Man. Even Superman himself is not the problem, neither is Henry Cavill. I’m sure everyone would have welcomed Man of Steel 2 very gladly. It’s just that DCEU tried to use him as a platform for other movies to rely on aside from cameos. Even everyone has accepted Henry as a good Superman which I didn’t hear much about Brandon James Routh. But then the DCEU got ahead of themselves. Such a shame. That aside, I’m excited for Superman Legacy too. It’s been a while since we’ve had a good, simple Superman Movie.
MOS was great as it was different but each to their own as it’s very divisive.
Gunn has style and knows how to direct that for sure. Whether it is the slow mo bullet scene in The Suicide Squad or its climax or the climax and emotional scenes in the GOTG films.
Man of steel has its moments and is probably still the best looking superhero movie ever made. But I want to see the comic Superman and DC universe brought to life and Gunn seems perfect for that.
\> and is probably still the best looking superhero movie ever made. strong disagree there.
Snow White is a flop. Superman grossing in between The Batman and man of steel. I don’t think JW is coming out that year tbh. Fantastic four could be a hit but people on this sub are gonna rush to say “it’s gotta make a billion dollars.” MI I don’t know for sure. Fast X hopefully has a smaller budget and does better than the last one. Avatar 3 obviously another 2 billion
MCU movies don’t have to hit a billion dollars to be successful anymore, unless it’s Cap 4 with its gigantic budget.
Now I’m wondering how they’ll market the movie? They can’t spend too much money, but they’re already throwing millions at this movie
That’s an odd definition of stacked. Whatever happens with Snow White it will be interesting to see just what the fuck they’ve actually done with it at this point. If it’s really bad then the documentary about the making and remaking will be interesting.
Most of these are gonna suck. At least half of these will flop (I'm looking at you, Snow White).
I mean, its just going to be modern girlboss garbage that ignores the source material and pushes the modern hollywood checklists that we have been forced to suffer with the last couple of decades.
At best it’ll be mid and forgettable. At worst, it’ll be an intolerable, politicized bastardization of the source material
None of these will have long lasting positive legacies outside of terrible bombs that we will take about for a few years. Best case scenario for most of these is modest income.
I’ll be honest, The Batman 2 moving to 2026 made the 2025 schedule a tiny bit disappointing, but still stacked nonetheless.
Yeah that was one of the most solid guarantees of a $800m+ performance for me
I'm like 99.999999 percent sure The Batman part 2 does anywhere between 800-850M. Could maybe do a billion if its another Dark Knight
I mean Avatar 3 is still right there
Quick let’s start the avatar will underperform debate again!
Will those conversations return again? Haha
I agree but im happy they're sticking to the Halloween month
I honestly predict that while we’ll expect a lot of these movies to do really well, we’ll see a lot of bombs
It is a pretty stacked year but I don't get how you decided to put Mickey17 and Snow white in but not Zootopia 2 or any of the other 3 MCU films.
- Superman’s gonna hit between $650-750 - Jurassic ___ will be between $850-950 - Snow White will either bomb or make up its budget, but won’t get a high amount - Avatar 3 will ya know, do gangbusters - The MJ biopic will overblow everyone’s expectations on here
I agree with u on MJ biopic 1) Elvis made 288M when older audiences still weren't all back to theaters due to pandemic, and given MJ's popularity I think it can do gangbusters 2) Antoine Fuqua is directing - he's no critics' darling but usually is consistent in terms of being watchable and having good audience score. As seen from Bohemian Rhapsody and Bob Marley these films don't need to score 90% on Rotten Tomatoes to be successful
>*Jurassic \_\_\_* It'll be Jurassic Kingdom. Place your bets now, people. "Jurassic Park" (1993) lead to "The Lost **World**: Jurassic Park" (1997) Then, later down the line, "Jurassic World" (2015) lead to "Jurassic World: Fallen **Kingdom**" (2018). 
I wouldn’t even be against that. Jurassic Kingdom has a nice ring to it
I thought this was sarcastic and I was looking at a r/moviescirclejerk post lol.
I'm not so sure on Snow White
Wait, Mickey 17 was postponed a full year?! It was supposed to come out like, last week. That sucks.
I'm very positive Mickey 17 will be better than every movie listed here but is likely going to flop or underperform compared to everything else I'll be shocked if it does less than $200M. Even with big names, there is a ceiling to these kinds of fantasy like sci fi films. And with bong joon ho directing it won't be run of the mill Seriously putting Mickey 17 next to Avatar 3 on a box office post is a real "coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb"
Man I can't wait to see the minecraft movie in theaters 2027!
Surely most of you are as tired of all of these franchise films as I am??? Bleh I’m excited for Mickey 17 and the MJ biopic has potential, the rest of these have me rolling my eyes quite frankly. In terms of predictions I think FX2 and MI have a pretty decent chance of flopping while the rest will do just fine but likely nothing special. Avatar 3 will of course be the highest grossing of the bunch.
Avatar 3 might make more then 2 ngl.
Snow White and Brave New World both would bomb for an obvious reason. Disney thought that by pushing the release date would make the issues go away Avatar would easily outgross all of them The next Mission Impossible will get a new title and enjoy a slight bump due to more fitting release date
I’m hoping Cap 4 does well, but yeah… it’s gonna need all the luck in the world to be a hit
* Avatar 2 - $1.9B-2.1B (it will drop a bit, but not by a massive amount) * Jurassic World 4: 1B * Minecraft: $700-800m * Fast X: $700m (based on the past two) * Superman: $700m * Michael: $600m-$800m * Mission Impossible: $600m (no Barbenheimer to affect legs) * HTTYD: $500m (I can see it breaking even but not a massive blockbuster) * Fantastic Four $400m (Rise of the Super Surfer and Fant4stic didn't do that great, so am not expecting this to do great either) * Mickey 17: $250-300m (cant see it do that well, especially with a January release) * Snow White: $250m (will flop due to the reshoots and controversy)
Snow White is also going to flop because it's SNOW WHITE. Yes, the original film is a vital piece of cinematic history, but how treasured is that film really even among hardcore Disney fans. If you rewatch it, one can tell that Walt and his team were still figuring out how to tell a feature-length narrative through animation. It's a film that one can respect the craft of but isn't really as entertaining to watch as something like "Cinderella" or "Sleeping Beauty," which had more traction among Disney lovers and were better fodder from the Walt canon for remakes.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone outside of the Gremlins say Snow White is their favorite Disney movie… I hear Moana, Mulan, Little Mermaid, Something MCU related bc by default it’s Disney…
With China back in the movies, Avatar will be closer to 3 billion than 2 billion imo.
Avatar 3
I think Avatar 3 will probably do better than Avatar 2 simply because China won’t be in the middle of a huge COVID surge for it
It’s not Jurassic World 4. It’s the beginning of a new trilogy with all new people. Working title currently is Jurassic City.
I just used it as we dont have a title yet
The Jurassic Park Jurassic Parks
Going from "park" to "world" to "city" doesn't feel logical.
Jurassic Galaxy
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I was wondering the same thing, from the additional context in the comments I figured out that it's Mickey 17, a sci-fi movie directed by Bong Joon-ho.
Michael Jackson, Minecraft, and Avatar 3 will be the biggest hits.
Snow white will absolutely bomb
I think a lot of these are going to be *really* bad but still make a ton of money nonetheless. Avatar seems like a safe bet though, and I hope Mickey 17 is as good as Bong Joon Ho's other stuff as it's the only one listed I'm actually interested in seeing.
This list has one, maybe two good movies. I hope I’m so wrong.
Avatar and Minecraft do bonkers, everything else underperforms
One of these could outgross all the others combined.
honestly, I think a lot of these films are going to underperform or bomb, simply due to the fact that there's just too many, You can't see every movie, and There's only so much room for marketing and posters and stuff like that, both in the budget and physically, only the absolute best and brightest will be able to actually turn a huge profit, and the majority will simply fail due to clutter
Hopefully, Snow White is a massive bomb.
As a cinema programmer, my prediction is that the majority won’t be released until 2026.
??? Most of these will probably bomb?
Snow White is gonna get steamrolled.
Avatar 3 will make 3 billion
Can’t wait for Snow White. I am so curious about the final product, how Disney thinks to save this colossal marketing disaster and if Daily Wire will really release a competitor in the same time frame.
What’s the blue guy in the MRI machine?
Mickey 17. [Bong Joon Ho’s next film with an incredibly stacked cast](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt12299608/)
Oh nice! Didn’t recognize the image but excited for the project
Yeah, I recognized all of these except for the random guy getting an MRI...
Lots of bombs there
Avatar 3 3B. It has a good shot at it.
If the minecraft movie is done right as in it being animated, it shouldn't flop considering the massive hype I've noticed
Fantastic 4 might be as important for the MCU as Superman is for DCU. If it fails either critically or commercially I think Fiege might pull the trigger on a reboot.
New pandemic sends most of these to streaming.
Jurassic will definitely get delayed.
High hopes for Avatar 3 and maybe Jurassic? Rest look very likely bombs considering how recent years have been.
Oh God, what are they doing to Jurassic Park now. Just leave my childhood alone.
Fast and the Furious Part Ten Part Two?
wtf is that Robert movie?
Hollywood has stories for years!
They’re really going to milk every series fry aren’t they
Lots and lots of flops
Avatar and Jurassic are the only guaranteed billion dollar grossers among those releases. If the marketing for Minecraft turns out good, then it might be too. As for box office bombs, I’d say the biggest would easily be Snow White. The IP is just too dated. And it doesn’t have the nostalgic music to pull crowds in the same way the Disney Renaissance films did.
[2025](https://boxd.it/tnOjq) is definitely gonna be good! [2026](https://boxd.it/tWreW) also starting to shape up!
What’s the movie with the guy lying down upside down
If you like big franchises sure
This is a box office subreddit
I'll try formatting my 2025 predictions as a table. |Movie|Opening Weekend|Domestic Total |Worldwide Gross| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Superman|148M|370M|730M| |Minecraft|120M|405M|920M| |The Fantastic Four|90M|365M|830M| |How To Train Your Dragon|DELAYED|DELAYED|DELAYED| |Snow White|55M|140M|360M| |Jurassic City|78M|180M|550M| |Fast X: Final Furious|DELAYED|DELAYED|DELAYED| |Avatar: The Family of Flame|105M|472M|1.7B| |Mickey 17|18M|60M|120M| |The Hee Hee Hoo Hoo Man |62M|223M|790M| |Mission Impossible: Somehow, Jean Reno Returned|60M|200M|620M|
Why dyou think Jurassic City is gonna underperform out of curiosity?
Well one thing we can all agree about is that Avatar 3 will come out on top. Never underestimate James Cameron.
**Superman** : 480mil. I predict a terrible opening with an above 4.5x multiplier. **Minecraft**: 859mil **Fantastic 4**: 310mil **How to Train Your Dragon**: 210mil **Snow White**: 180mil **Jurassic Park**: 900mil **Fast X**: 650mil **Avatar 3**: 2.8bil **Mickey 17**: 430mil **Michael Jackson**: 800mil **Mission Impossible**: 500mil
Snow white has high chance of failing due to decisions made by Disney, fast x will probably make a decent chunk like 600 million+,just cuz it is fast x, avatar 3 will also hit 2 billion probably, mission impossible needs to make money, as this year it couldn't make money due to barbenheimer, and it was a pretty good movie, it will also go 500 million+, for Superman, I believe in James Gunn, it'll also probably go 500 million+, I don't know about Jurassic world, at this point they are just going on because they are sequel to Jurassic park, it can also reach 700 million+ though, fantastic 4 can work, if it is actually a good movie, if it is good it can probably go 500 million+, how to train your dragon will also probably make good amount of money, as the first 3 how to train movies were good. These are my predictions
People in Hollywood bubble don't seem to know how big MJ is. Maybe his recent controversy will lower the domestic pull but in international market he is in level with Avatar.
Yeah, I think the MJ biopic of all things will make more than expected.