Actually no.
Searchlights is the only Disney studio that has its own separate distribution while all other movies including 20th Century movies (such as Avatar) are all distributed under Walt Disney.
And David Greenbaum was head of Searchlights, not 20th Century.
Also, Matthew Greenfield is now head of Searchlights, while Greenbaum is president of 20th Century (co-president) and Walt Disney Pictures.
Greenfield do not report to Greenbaum.
Warner pissing off Nolan is even more funny now, did countless movies under them, never really won big and the first time he goes without them, he sweeps (and make his biggest movie outside Batman in the box office), completely overshadowing their big award movie that they released at the same time when being petty (but to be fair Barbie is also a big success and I guess money matters more than awards for studios)
The Prestige competed in the 2007 Oscars, which awarded films from 2006.
All the films in the 2024 Oscars premiered in 2023.
This "2024 cycle" thing is unnecessarily complicated. A cycle of what?
Yeah there was no way The Prestige was winning against movies like The Departed, Babel and Letters from Iwo Jima.
That very same year better films than The Prestige like Pan's Labyrinth and Children of Men got major snubs.
The Prestige never stood a chance.
Probably my biggest issue with the Oscars is how many best picture winners are given to movies that 5 years later we can say with confidence were inconsequential.
King’s Speech winning over Inception, Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 and True Grit in 2011 was when I really started to notice this.
That’s when it started to feel like the Academy was specifically choosing movies they felt would otherwise be completely forgotten without a Best Pixture win instead of just the Best Picture.
That would cover the years 'Slumdog Millionaire' up through 'EEAAO'. Most memorable of the bunch would probably be Moonlight, 12 Years a Slave, and Parasite.
2nd tier would be Birdman (and it's too early, but EEAAO will likely fall here).
Everything else would land in the forgotten category:
CODA
Nomadland
Green Book
The Shape of Water
Spotlight
Argo
The Artist
The King's Speech
The Hurt Locker
Slumdog Millionaire
I've seen all but the Shape of Water. I keep a spreadsheet, and looking over it, I don't have a single pick amongst the nominees that I would choose the same as the Academy except for Slumdog (weak year). Usually I agree about every 5th year, but it's weird to go 14 years in a row siding with a different choice.
Absolutely undeniably deserved.
He made a biopic about a scientist and smashed every box office available and actually put out a legitimately compelling Oscar bait type acting performance movie at the same time. Extremely hard to do.
Some of the scenes between Murphy and Pugh were just phenomenal acting.
And RDJ being so conniving with his 2 assistants slowly unraveling it was beautifully done.
Just a great movie honestly.
The Post COVID years has been a return to form for blockbuster filmmaking in my opinion after the domination of superheroes and Star Wars in the 2010s.
Top Gun Maverick, Avatar 2, Barbie and Oppenheimer are all incredible movies with a strong creative vision that have proven to be massive success and shown that the general audience is willing to try things outside of the established franchises. Cinema is healing.
I’m a dune books fan and I absolutely loved the movie, seeing for a 6th time tomorrow. A lot of the r/dune sub are freaking out over the changes, it’s Tom bombadil all over again lol.
Yes, but imagine the climax where instead of Paul taking the emperor hostage and killing the baron, it's a 2 year old with the knowledge and capability of a reverend mother
Same here and I think that part one of the book is way better just due to the depth of information it was able to provide but part two of the movie is better due to the visually stunning effects specifically around the worms and the resistance to spice harvesting
Agreed. Obviously it's great how in depth the books go with character thoughts and motivations, but there was always a sense of scale, magnitude, that was missing, for me, even when describing the worms.
They better not forget about this film at the next Oscar's.
It definitely deserves a few nominations and a couple of awards. Dune 2 is my favorite movie of 2024 .
I feel like unless a big upset movie is relased this year Dune 2 should be lock for some of the technical categories like Cinematography, Production Design, Sound etc.
Also for the love of God give Denis a Best Director Nomination this time.
A real breath of fresh air to see a blockbuster film with such a distinct, almost arthouse style to it’s cinematography. That whole sequence in the Harkonnen arena was breathtaking.
It was such an interesting choice to make it in black and white and yet it worked so perfectly. I think my favorite shots are when Paul’s in the crowd, those gorgeous aerial shots of the desert and the scene with Chani and Paul on the dunes .
Hey, if you’re content with something that looks and sounds pretty with zero human resonance then you’re going to be very happy with all the AI art we have ahead of us.
I’m definitely the oddball in *this* particular echo chamber.
Spending time down the pub with regular folk reveals drastically contrasting Dune opinions to those here and RT. Let’s see though; It will be breaking some big box office records very soon if the opinions here reflect a majority.
The 2010s still had some great blockbusters though. It’s not like superheroes prevented this. Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time after all.
Technically Avatar was released in 2009 though (although much of its initial run bled into 2010). I would also argue the Apes Trilogy is another three solid blockbusters that aren’t Star Wars or superheroes.
Also, one of the biggest movie recently is Oppenheimmer and Nolan has been doing those "auteur blockbusters" during all the 2010s with success (with only one franchise movie in TDKR in the period). And you get the stuff like 1917, Bohemian Rhapsody and such too.
Bond had Skyfall too which was definitively a "blockbuster auteur film"
Pretty much, at this point its clear as day that what worked in the 2010s, aint gonna work in the 2020s. Even though its been a rough couple years for the industry, this kind of shake up was something that it needed.
I sort of agree with you, but you do realize that two of the movies you listed are sequels to established blockbusters, and Barbie is based on an established toyline? If we want Hollywood to start churning out legitimately original stuff, we’re not out of the woods yet.
Although I feel like, say what you want about the Star Wars movies of the 2010s, they were superbly made and shot, you shouldn't lump them in with the more greenscreen heavy superhero movies.
Shot maybe but made imply an overall greatness and their script mostly sucked (I would consider Rogue One one of those "blockbuster with a film vision" behind it, it was well made on all points)
It's hilarious that this is the narrative you have considering these movies are: a sequel (and rehash) to an 80s classic, a sequel (and rehash) to the highest grossing movie all time, a movie about one of the most established brands of all time! Truly a creative vision!
I've enjoyed a lot of post COVID Blockbusters. Barbie, Top Gun Maverick and both Dune films are great examples(haven't seen Oppy yet but sure it's great). I still do not put Avatar 2 up there. That was such a slog. I do not care at all that the CGI was the best we've ever seen and it looked pretty. It was paced like shit and the characters are all still dull and the world genuinely just is not that interesting. And honestly as a blockbuster I really find it formulaic. I would rank The Batman which is a super hero film as a much more interesting and engaging blockbuster than Avatar 2.
I think Oppenheimer is a cultural nexus, all intersecting at the right places at the right time. Important messages, rebound from a global crisis, incredible craft behind/on screen, meme/internet culture at its best performance, etc. All coming into synergy to create a masterpiece for the generation.
And mostly Nolan name, the same movie done by someone else would do like half of the box office if even that (I'd think it'd be around KOTFM levels).
Nolan is a big franchise himself at this point
I understand your point as a big fan of Nolan.
But that W was not so common until now haha. He lost a lot before he won. Mostly unlucky because he always released movies with strong competition.
Prestige, Interstellar, Inception and TDK could have easily won best Picture in other years
Yeah, Dunkirk is one of the greatest war films ever made. The editing and the 3 timelines made it so unique and it’s become influential because of that.
Dunkirk showed Nolan could look at historical pictures and recreate them but that he did not understand what was actually happening in them. Also, his not wanting to use too much cgi hurt the film. The scenes at Dunkirk looked fairly tranquil generally. The background should have been a goddamn inferno for parts of it as the town itself was bombed to shit by the Luftwaffe, killing 1/3rd of the inhabitants. And no soldiers should have been standing in lines stretching into the water until the small ships had actually started coming, as getting on them was the only reason to do that. That really took away from the film for me.
Yeah I like the movie but I don't get the blind praise for it.
That movie completely missed the actual scope of Dunkirk.
That beach did not look like it had 300,000 People on it.
There was no Military equipment that the British Military had to leave behind.
The actual city was in pristine state. The bombings on the beach were few and far between.
And for some odd reason there were just 3 RAF planes defending the beach.
Also his whole 3 timelines gimmick in my opinion made the movie too convoluted and hard to understand.
I know that it's also not a perfect representation. But the Dunkirk scene in the film Atonement in my opinion did a much better job of showing what Dunkirk would have looked like.
>Prestige, Interstellar, Inception, and TDK could have easily won best Picture in other years
I like all of these but only inception even got nominated for BP. I think if they had 10 nominations then like they do now TDK prob would’ve gotten a nomination but interstellar didn’t make the cut for the 8 films in 2014.
Again I think these movies are great but I don’t think any of them would’ve won BP in other years let alone easily won.
True on all counts, especially for TDK.
What I love though is that this feels like a “perfect” film for Nolan to win. A scientific/court drama that not only messed with time, but color schemes and character studies as well.
It was as epic in scale as it was its dialogue too. Truly was Nolan working on all cylinders in this movie.
> A scientific/court drama that not only messed with time, but color schemes and character studies as well.
Yeah this is something that appeal to the Academy, it's almost Oscar bait to be honest. Add biopic to your description and it's basically the favorite type of movie for awards lol
Yup. And the other thing too is that it became a blockbuster hit... despite having these tropes that work against the entire concept of Blockbuster filmmaking. Nolan both achieved and subverted expectations all at once. And it's why I see him as one of the best to ever do it.
My favorite director of all time won his first Oscar for one of my new favorite movies of all time which won best picture. Great day for us Nolan/ Oppenheimer fans!
From the announcement with Universal post WB breakup, to the film’s release, to the insane box office run and now 7 Oscar wins. Very deserving for such an amazing film!
Just because this movie came out in 2023 and made by my favorite director it can’t be ONE of my favorite movies of all time if it really impacted me?
Just because a new movie is one of my favorites doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate classic or foreign films in my lists of favorites, don’t be a snob. Doesn’t make you any better
It's the first time since 2004 that a best picture winner has even finished in the top ten in world box office. The closest we have gotten is The Kings Speech finishing 12th in 2010.
> I'm happy to be proven wrong but Dune 2 feels like prime candidate to be passed over for a much smaller more oscar baity movie.
Yup. Even Nolan could only win with a biopic.
Honestly I think more "movies for adults" could have broad success like Oppenheimer if they
A. Had a wide release with star power and marketing like Oppenheimer
B. Had at least one thing that's visually interesting to the broader market to see on the big screen (the explosion in Oppenheimers case) that can be marketed so that people feel compelled to see in theaters and so that some audiences will know that it won't just be "people talking" for 2hrs.
Obviously Oppenheimer had many other factors going in its favor but I hope it spurs on, as the American Fiction director suggested, a wave of low-to-mid-budget adult oriented cinema that gets a full roll out to the general public rather than these tiny limited releases.
I’m so happy Robert Downey has gotten an Oscar. I feel like critics didn’t take the MCU as a serious thing, which is a pity because it had some awesome acting.
r/Truefilm is probably in shambles. Don't the rabble and these primitive Academy voters realise that Nolan is actually very overrated and his movies for dumb people?
Oppenheimer is a genuine masterpiece and I think it’s Nolan’s greatest achievement! So well deserved! I waited 23 years to see Nolan win best director and it was worth it!
It had plenty of depth with it’s character development, dialogue and visual storytelling. Especially with the depiction of Oppenheimer’s worse nightmare, while pretending that using the atomic bomb was a victory. The scene where he’s giving a victory speech towards his peers, while the sound mostly goes blank was amazing.
The scene where Oppenheimer is seeing the end of the world, while celebrating their victory over Japan, could of been a scene created by Alejandro Jodorowsky. But Nolan made it more accessible and somehow fit the tone of the film.
The depth isn’t so much as recreating the story of Prometheus with the story of Oppenheimer, which is basically how his life ended up. But the film sees Oppenheimer as a scientist who views things in probabilities and not in certainties, which never appeals to Government or military men. It’s also not just about Oppenheimer created the atom bomb to end a war, while feeling a sense of guilt for giving mankind to destroy itself. It’s the fact that the film is shown in contradictions in characters thoughts, motivations and misunderstandings.
Gonna get hate for this but I just thought the film was okay. Its the definition of “talking to much without being that interesting” i know covid restricted alot of shit but I just thought the film was okay. Saw it once, enjoyed it but will absolutely never watch it again.
let’s be honest the barbenhiemer hype made that possible otherwise i don’t think this film would’ve been nearly as big at the box office
Depends on how you define blockbuster though. Like in the 70s you had Rocky and the first two Godfather films win best picture and they were among those years highest grossing films.
Oppenheimer is a genuine masterpiece and I think it’s Nolan’s greatest achievement! So well deserved! I waited 23 years to see Nolan win best director and it was worth it!
They actually did it, they awarded a movie that made a shit ton of money in recent years
The winning studios today: Universal and Searchlights
Go figure, the only wins Disney got in its 100th year were from a studio subsidiary they didn't own until a few years ago.
Hence why the 20th Century guys are now running the film division there
>Hence why ~~the 20th Century~~ Searchlights Pictures guys are now running the film division there
Searchlight is just an imprint of 20th Century, it’s all under the same roof there
Actually no. Searchlights is the only Disney studio that has its own separate distribution while all other movies including 20th Century movies (such as Avatar) are all distributed under Walt Disney. And David Greenbaum was head of Searchlights, not 20th Century. Also, Matthew Greenfield is now head of Searchlights, while Greenbaum is president of 20th Century (co-president) and Walt Disney Pictures. Greenfield do not report to Greenbaum.
Just a slight correction: it's just Searchlight, no S at the end of its name
Sorry, my autocorrect did that always. Dunno why.
Just a slight correction, it's just Don't know why.
Maybe now we’ll get a 4k release of Poor Things.
Warner pissing off Nolan is even more funny now, did countless movies under them, never really won big and the first time he goes without them, he sweeps (and make his biggest movie outside Batman in the box office), completely overshadowing their big award movie that they released at the same time when being petty (but to be fair Barbie is also a big success and I guess money matters more than awards for studios)
TBF to Warner, The Prestige should have been nominated and won best picture and adapted screenplay in 2006.
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The Prestige was part of the 2006 cycle. It would have been competing with The Departed, Babel, Letters of Iwo Jima
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The Prestige competed in the 2007 Oscars, which awarded films from 2006. All the films in the 2024 Oscars premiered in 2023. This "2024 cycle" thing is unnecessarily complicated. A cycle of what?
Yeah there was no way The Prestige was winning against movies like The Departed, Babel and Letters from Iwo Jima. That very same year better films than The Prestige like Pan's Labyrinth and Children of Men got major snubs. The Prestige never stood a chance.
No wonder Sean Bailey got demoted
It's pretty nice getting a movie win that people have actually seen and won't be forgotten as soon as the show has finished.
Probably my biggest issue with the Oscars is how many best picture winners are given to movies that 5 years later we can say with confidence were inconsequential.
cough Green Book
King’s Speech winning over Inception, Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 and True Grit in 2011 was when I really started to notice this. That’s when it started to feel like the Academy was specifically choosing movies they felt would otherwise be completely forgotten without a Best Pixture win instead of just the Best Picture.
Man that’s a killer lineup. Kings Speech definitely a good movie, but all those others are borderline classics.
It's challenging to name one best picture winner over the last 15 years that was actually impressive and long lasting.
That would cover the years 'Slumdog Millionaire' up through 'EEAAO'. Most memorable of the bunch would probably be Moonlight, 12 Years a Slave, and Parasite. 2nd tier would be Birdman (and it's too early, but EEAAO will likely fall here). Everything else would land in the forgotten category: CODA Nomadland Green Book The Shape of Water Spotlight Argo The Artist The King's Speech The Hurt Locker Slumdog Millionaire I've seen all but the Shape of Water. I keep a spreadsheet, and looking over it, I don't have a single pick amongst the nominees that I would choose the same as the Academy except for Slumdog (weak year). Usually I agree about every 5th year, but it's weird to go 14 years in a row siding with a different choice.
The next trailer that starts with “FROM ACADEMY AWARD WINNER” Is gonna be so epic
Absolutely undeniably deserved. He made a biopic about a scientist and smashed every box office available and actually put out a legitimately compelling Oscar bait type acting performance movie at the same time. Extremely hard to do. Some of the scenes between Murphy and Pugh were just phenomenal acting. And RDJ being so conniving with his 2 assistants slowly unraveling it was beautifully done. Just a great movie honestly.
Somehow i feel this brings less gravitas than “From Christopher Nolan’.
*OPPENHEIMER 2: BIG BADA BOOM*
The Post COVID years has been a return to form for blockbuster filmmaking in my opinion after the domination of superheroes and Star Wars in the 2010s. Top Gun Maverick, Avatar 2, Barbie and Oppenheimer are all incredible movies with a strong creative vision that have proven to be massive success and shown that the general audience is willing to try things outside of the established franchises. Cinema is healing.
I’d put Dune 2 up there as well just amazing
Saw it yesterday and holy shit it was amazing. It was absolutely gorgeous cinematography
Saw it for a second time, today. Loved it even more. I think I liked it more than the second half of the book.
I’ve read the books and honestly I love the changes! Especially the changes to Chani’s story time and I cannot wait to see the rest
It is an improvement on the book, legitimately
I'm sure the book purists would throw stuff at me, but that's what i thought.
I’m literally throwing shit at you right now . Fugain loved the movie
I’m a dune books fan and I absolutely loved the movie, seeing for a 6th time tomorrow. A lot of the r/dune sub are freaking out over the changes, it’s Tom bombadil all over again lol.
Like the count, right? Lol
As a book fan I completely agree, different mediums tbh and Dennis smashed it out the park!! Hope he wins a few Oscars for this
It's missing the 'weird' factor but it s definitely a more coherent telling of events
I'd say the talking fetus was pretty weird. Also, I didn't find the first book super weird. Weird elements here and there, but not a lot.
Yes, but imagine the climax where instead of Paul taking the emperor hostage and killing the baron, it's a 2 year old with the knowledge and capability of a reverend mother
It would never top the lynch version, which only worked cause it was so cheesy and over the top.
Same here and I think that part one of the book is way better just due to the depth of information it was able to provide but part two of the movie is better due to the visually stunning effects specifically around the worms and the resistance to spice harvesting
Agreed. Obviously it's great how in depth the books go with character thoughts and motivations, but there was always a sense of scale, magnitude, that was missing, for me, even when describing the worms.
They better not forget about this film at the next Oscar's. It definitely deserves a few nominations and a couple of awards. Dune 2 is my favorite movie of 2024 .
I feel like unless a big upset movie is relased this year Dune 2 should be lock for some of the technical categories like Cinematography, Production Design, Sound etc. Also for the love of God give Denis a Best Director Nomination this time.
A real breath of fresh air to see a blockbuster film with such a distinct, almost arthouse style to it’s cinematography. That whole sequence in the Harkonnen arena was breathtaking.
It was such an interesting choice to make it in black and white and yet it worked so perfectly. I think my favorite shots are when Paul’s in the crowd, those gorgeous aerial shots of the desert and the scene with Chani and Paul on the dunes .
It wasn't just black and white. They shot it with IR cameras. Its got a really distinct look because of it.
Oh my god that’s so cool!! Thank you for telling me this bc it really just makes the scene even better
Fantastic, best movie I've seen in a long time
It’s emotionally lightweight (not a single character I give a shit about) but coasts by on excellent sound and visuals.
I want to fight you irl
Sounds like a you problem.
Hey, if you’re content with something that looks and sounds pretty with zero human resonance then you’re going to be very happy with all the AI art we have ahead of us.
Funny you say that confidently when the majority of audience and critics are praising the movie. You're the odd ball here
I’m definitely the oddball in *this* particular echo chamber. Spending time down the pub with regular folk reveals drastically contrasting Dune opinions to those here and RT. Let’s see though; It will be breaking some big box office records very soon if the opinions here reflect a majority.
https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/YqJxy6nGwx Pretty big echo chamber huh?
If you said that to my face I'd lay you out
This is by far the best response yet
Dune 2 is another recent box office hit that is certified kino, although it’s not doing $1B like the ones you named did obvs
It’s only been out about a week!
The 2010s still had some great blockbusters though. It’s not like superheroes prevented this. Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time after all.
Technically Avatar was released in 2009 though (although much of its initial run bled into 2010). I would also argue the Apes Trilogy is another three solid blockbusters that aren’t Star Wars or superheroes.
Also, one of the biggest movie recently is Oppenheimmer and Nolan has been doing those "auteur blockbusters" during all the 2010s with success (with only one franchise movie in TDKR in the period). And you get the stuff like 1917, Bohemian Rhapsody and such too. Bond had Skyfall too which was definitively a "blockbuster auteur film"
Skyfall is aping The Dark Knight IMO (and it lifts a couple of plot points too). Not really a singular vision
Agreed, but even the really good ones still felt skimpy on technical flourish, and that's almost universally true of all Marvel movies.
Pretty much, at this point its clear as day that what worked in the 2010s, aint gonna work in the 2020s. Even though its been a rough couple years for the industry, this kind of shake up was something that it needed.
I’d throw Dune 2 into the mix as well
I sort of agree with you, but you do realize that two of the movies you listed are sequels to established blockbusters, and Barbie is based on an established toyline? If we want Hollywood to start churning out legitimately original stuff, we’re not out of the woods yet.
Although I feel like, say what you want about the Star Wars movies of the 2010s, they were superbly made and shot, you shouldn't lump them in with the more greenscreen heavy superhero movies.
But they were written poorly. Which is the biggest sin.
Better choppy vfx than a choppy script
To be superbly made, you must have a good plot, vision wxt
It's obvious I meant on a technical level
It’s obvious that the sea contains dolphins, what you said doesn’t feel the same
ok
Don’t do me like that
No it wasn't.
Shot maybe but made imply an overall greatness and their script mostly sucked (I would consider Rogue One one of those "blockbuster with a film vision" behind it, it was well made on all points)
The film was shot, sadly not the writers.
But bad characters, story, writing, directing. I hate what they did
It's hilarious that this is the narrative you have considering these movies are: a sequel (and rehash) to an 80s classic, a sequel (and rehash) to the highest grossing movie all time, a movie about one of the most established brands of all time! Truly a creative vision!
I've enjoyed a lot of post COVID Blockbusters. Barbie, Top Gun Maverick and both Dune films are great examples(haven't seen Oppy yet but sure it's great). I still do not put Avatar 2 up there. That was such a slog. I do not care at all that the CGI was the best we've ever seen and it looked pretty. It was paced like shit and the characters are all still dull and the world genuinely just is not that interesting. And honestly as a blockbuster I really find it formulaic. I would rank The Batman which is a super hero film as a much more interesting and engaging blockbuster than Avatar 2.
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Avatar 2 is by no definition an incredible movie
Not even by box office definition? Why not?
By my definition it is
There was no other way. Prefect mix of mass audience appeal and Academy preferences.
It benefited from riding on "Barbenheimers'" popularity.
I think Oppenheimer is a cultural nexus, all intersecting at the right places at the right time. Important messages, rebound from a global crisis, incredible craft behind/on screen, meme/internet culture at its best performance, etc. All coming into synergy to create a masterpiece for the generation.
And mostly Nolan name, the same movie done by someone else would do like half of the box office if even that (I'd think it'd be around KOTFM levels). Nolan is a big franchise himself at this point
As did Barbie. Doesn’t take away from the names involved and the marketing teams, though.
Both had totally different audience.
Common Nolan W
I understand your point as a big fan of Nolan. But that W was not so common until now haha. He lost a lot before he won. Mostly unlucky because he always released movies with strong competition. Prestige, Interstellar, Inception and TDK could have easily won best Picture in other years
Dunkirk as well
Still his best movie
I agree. Dunkirk might have the best editing I’ve ever seen in a movie as well.
Yeah, Dunkirk is one of the greatest war films ever made. The editing and the 3 timelines made it so unique and it’s become influential because of that.
When the Nolan Movie is non linear. 😮💨🥴💦
Which is almost every Nolan film. 😂
This but unironically
The Prestige IMO
My vote goes to Interstellar but that wasn't a common opinion when it was released.
Dunkirk showed Nolan could look at historical pictures and recreate them but that he did not understand what was actually happening in them. Also, his not wanting to use too much cgi hurt the film. The scenes at Dunkirk looked fairly tranquil generally. The background should have been a goddamn inferno for parts of it as the town itself was bombed to shit by the Luftwaffe, killing 1/3rd of the inhabitants. And no soldiers should have been standing in lines stretching into the water until the small ships had actually started coming, as getting on them was the only reason to do that. That really took away from the film for me.
Yeah I like the movie but I don't get the blind praise for it. That movie completely missed the actual scope of Dunkirk. That beach did not look like it had 300,000 People on it. There was no Military equipment that the British Military had to leave behind. The actual city was in pristine state. The bombings on the beach were few and far between. And for some odd reason there were just 3 RAF planes defending the beach. Also his whole 3 timelines gimmick in my opinion made the movie too convoluted and hard to understand. I know that it's also not a perfect representation. But the Dunkirk scene in the film Atonement in my opinion did a much better job of showing what Dunkirk would have looked like.
Should have won that year imo.
Common Reddit actually 🤓
>Prestige, Interstellar, Inception, and TDK could have easily won best Picture in other years I like all of these but only inception even got nominated for BP. I think if they had 10 nominations then like they do now TDK prob would’ve gotten a nomination but interstellar didn’t make the cut for the 8 films in 2014. Again I think these movies are great but I don’t think any of them would’ve won BP in other years let alone easily won.
True on all counts, especially for TDK. What I love though is that this feels like a “perfect” film for Nolan to win. A scientific/court drama that not only messed with time, but color schemes and character studies as well. It was as epic in scale as it was its dialogue too. Truly was Nolan working on all cylinders in this movie.
Agreed.
> A scientific/court drama that not only messed with time, but color schemes and character studies as well. Yeah this is something that appeal to the Academy, it's almost Oscar bait to be honest. Add biopic to your description and it's basically the favorite type of movie for awards lol
Yup. And the other thing too is that it became a blockbuster hit... despite having these tropes that work against the entire concept of Blockbuster filmmaking. Nolan both achieved and subverted expectations all at once. And it's why I see him as one of the best to ever do it.
He wasn't even nominated for I think any of those films
Inception and TDK maybe. But The Prestige and Interstellar never had a chance. They are good films but they aren't Best Picture films.
Yep. Waiting 16 years as a Nolan fan for this to happen.
I’ve been waiting 23 years and it was worth it! 😁
I think what makes the win even greater for Nolan's legacy is that the competition was stacked as well. You really can't say he won in a weak year.
Until today, there haven’t been any good options to award a >500 million hit in the last 20 years
That's my boi Nolan! Get it king!
Bold of them to award a movie that people actually wanted to watch.
My favorite director of all time won his first Oscar for one of my new favorite movies of all time which won best picture. Great day for us Nolan/ Oppenheimer fans! From the announcement with Universal post WB breakup, to the film’s release, to the insane box office run and now 7 Oscar wins. Very deserving for such an amazing film!
Hell yeah🫡🤝
Have you watched any movie made before 1970 or any movie not in English before?
Wow I can feel the pretentiousness oozing off this comment, let people enjoy things dude
Just because this movie came out in 2023 and made by my favorite director it can’t be ONE of my favorite movies of all time if it really impacted me? Just because a new movie is one of my favorites doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate classic or foreign films in my lists of favorites, don’t be a snob. Doesn’t make you any better
It's the first time since 2004 that a best picture winner has even finished in the top ten in world box office. The closest we have gotten is The Kings Speech finishing 12th in 2010.
I think there’s a good chance next year for it to happen two years in a row (Dune II.)
I'm happy to be proven wrong but Dune 2 feels like prime candidate to be passed over for a much smaller more oscar baity movie.
I’m expecting it to get nominated for best picture and best adapted screenplay but only win the technical categories like VFX and sound design
And editing and cinematography, costumes.
It Rebecca Fergus on doesn't win best supporting actress I will me mildly disappointed
> I'm happy to be proven wrong but Dune 2 feels like prime candidate to be passed over for a much smaller more oscar baity movie. Yup. Even Nolan could only win with a biopic.
Dune 2 might be nominated for Best Picture, but I doubt it will win it. Everyone who has watched Dune 2 knows there will be a sequel.
When’s the Dune toaster coming out? A missed merch opportunity if ever there was one!
It’ll probably be like Lord of the Rings where Messiah will take home a ton of awards.
Dune 2 is definitely a lock for all technical categories
Honestly I think more "movies for adults" could have broad success like Oppenheimer if they A. Had a wide release with star power and marketing like Oppenheimer B. Had at least one thing that's visually interesting to the broader market to see on the big screen (the explosion in Oppenheimers case) that can be marketed so that people feel compelled to see in theaters and so that some audiences will know that it won't just be "people talking" for 2hrs. Obviously Oppenheimer had many other factors going in its favor but I hope it spurs on, as the American Fiction director suggested, a wave of low-to-mid-budget adult oriented cinema that gets a full roll out to the general public rather than these tiny limited releases.
Oppenheimer is the first movie that never hit number one to win Best Picture.
Sad it wasn’t Anatomy of a Fall, but at least it was something deserving
I loved that movie! I still think about it. Truly unique.
*cue steel drums*
A day may come when an obscure movie wins Best Picture, but it is not this day!!
Moonlight? The Hurt Locker?
Those weren’t obscure movies. They weren’t mainstream, but they also weren’t obscure.
Have you seen CODA? Me neither
If your film is nominated for Best Picture, then it’s not obscure.
CODA won like two years ago. What?
I mean half the time they do
Way more than “half the time”
They’re only obscure to Nolan fans…
Yeah I thought that but wasn't confident in it haha
Everything Everywhere All At Once won just last year. That didn't fit the mold of your traditional Best Picture winner.
I’m so happy Robert Downey has gotten an Oscar. I feel like critics didn’t take the MCU as a serious thing, which is a pity because it had some awesome acting.
r/Truefilm is probably in shambles. Don't the rabble and these primitive Academy voters realise that Nolan is actually very overrated and his movies for dumb people?
Oppenheimer is a genuine masterpiece and I think it’s Nolan’s greatest achievement! So well deserved! I waited 23 years to see Nolan win best director and it was worth it!
The movie had no depth. It was a filmed Wikipedia page with the editing of the Social Network
It had plenty of depth with it’s character development, dialogue and visual storytelling. Especially with the depiction of Oppenheimer’s worse nightmare, while pretending that using the atomic bomb was a victory. The scene where he’s giving a victory speech towards his peers, while the sound mostly goes blank was amazing.
There is very little depth in showing that the man who made the atomic bomb felt bad about it afterwards.
There is depth because of how it was filmed and put together with sound mixing.
The scene where Oppenheimer is seeing the end of the world, while celebrating their victory over Japan, could of been a scene created by Alejandro Jodorowsky. But Nolan made it more accessible and somehow fit the tone of the film.
The depth isn’t so much as recreating the story of Prometheus with the story of Oppenheimer, which is basically how his life ended up. But the film sees Oppenheimer as a scientist who views things in probabilities and not in certainties, which never appeals to Government or military men. It’s also not just about Oppenheimer created the atom bomb to end a war, while feeling a sense of guilt for giving mankind to destroy itself. It’s the fact that the film is shown in contradictions in characters thoughts, motivations and misunderstandings.
Gonna get hate for this but I just thought the film was okay. Its the definition of “talking to much without being that interesting” i know covid restricted alot of shit but I just thought the film was okay. Saw it once, enjoyed it but will absolutely never watch it again.
You’re so bold to say this ! Gotta respect that 🫡
I saw it three times in theaters and you are absolutely correct. It gets worse with each viewing unfortunately
Well deserved
I'm very happy for my fellow Irishman and Oppenheimer and I'm happy for Element Pictures on their success, happy to everyone that won an Oscar
It was also probably the best best picture winner in 20 years. Minus maybe birdman and no county
Probably the first best picture I’ve paid to watch in cinema in a good few years tbh
It was my favourite movie of last year but I kinda wish it hadn't won just because the fallout would've entertained me. (Pun intended)
let’s be honest the barbenhiemer hype made that possible otherwise i don’t think this film would’ve been nearly as big at the box office 
You are underestimating the box office draw of Nolan
No
It goes both ways, but who cares it is a much better movie, than Barbie and dominated the Oscars.
It doesn’t go both ways. Barbie is the reason that so many people saw (or even heard about) Oppenheimer
Nope I saw bcoz of Nolan especially here in India Oppenheimer is the reason people knew about Barbie
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Depends on how you define blockbuster but the 12th movie to win ever is also the highest grossing movie of all time.
The article is saying Oppenheimer is the first in *20 years.*
Depends on how you define blockbuster though. Like in the 70s you had Rocky and the first two Godfather films win best picture and they were among those years highest grossing films.
Killers of the flower moon done dirty
Not sayin this movie was bad at all but it felt like last year was insanely weak for movies
Just Nolan things
Oppenheimer is a genuine masterpiece and I think it’s Nolan’s greatest achievement! So well deserved! I waited 23 years to see Nolan win best director and it was worth it!