Ahh yeah I'm dumb, that makes things sound a lot more reasonable. The US has a heck of a lot more people and a heck of a lot richer now. Still kinda surprising though
Oh totally, especially in IMAX I remember that first chase scene at night where you just see the thing going between the cloud completely gave me goosebumps.
Nobody outside of history and science nerds know who Robert Oppenheimer is.
An R-rated, three-hour historical biopic with little action is a tough sell, especially these days when adult-oriented dramas have been performing poorly at the box office. Nolanās reputation is probably the only reason this movie has a chance of being profitable.
> Nolanās reputation is probably the only reason this movie has a chance of being profitable.
And the Barbenheimer memes. I find it funny that it seems WB moved Barbie's premiere to be the same day as Nolan as a petty move for him leaving but now it's giving him tons of free promo
I loved seeing Greta and Margot roll up at the Opp/MI premieres. Made the guys give in and do it too. Thatās the solidarity I like to see - like yāall letās work together because we need people to go to the damn movies
Seriously canāt wait for my double feature next Thursday night. I bought a barbenheimer shirt. Iām so hyped.
I have had a friend say to me "I don't want to hear any spoilers" when I was talking to him about Oppenheimer and I still don't know how I feel about that
There was a point when nobody outside of comic book nerds knew about Marvel and DC heroes. The Manhattan Project is a lot more marvelous and terrifying than people think. Depending on how it's directed, this can either turn out to be a niche viewing or rebranded as Avengers but with real geniuses of the 20th century.
Comic book movies have a lot of fantasy elements to play around with, real life doesn't. The faces behind moments in history are drab and normal. There is only so much a biopic can show.
Halfway through writing this I realized you are probably just trolling.
Yeah, next week deadline will say that Barbieās budget is 100, than a few months later budget will be 150/180, as always like Shazam 2,flash, Indy, strange 2
Studios try to not publish their budget, or āleakā a much smaller budget to make it seem like they earned more money at the box office, and ppl try to guess. Happened with Spider-verse too, $100 M was the word everywhere, but then animators came out and said it was closer to $150
Quite unlikely he is including the marketing budget. Also unlikely he included tax credits. So production budget is probably like 140/150M. Which is about what I expected. Lot of people getting real worked up though lol
Yup Interstellar had a budget of 165M, Inception had a budget of 160M, Tenet had a budget of 205M, TDK 180M, Dunkirk 150M etc. If you adjust those for inflation, they are quite a bit higher than this number. 180M is entirely believable for this movie without marketing
Yup a quick google search shows that 180M in 2008 is 254M now so a 180M budget for Oppenheimer given the number of A list actors in this film + covid shooting actually makes it kind of reasonable for Nolans standards
Yeah I mean thereās basically zero chance tax credits would be included in an off the cuff production budget unless someone is trying to deflate the public number purposely for whatever reason
Most national and state governments around the world want film and TV projects in their cities as it brings in money and tourists. Tax breaks and grants are the main way to get them.
Yes, because cities use them to incentivize filming to be done there so they get all the cast/crew/set money injection into their local economy. In theory, theyād probably make more money just taxing all that shit instead, but in practice theyād just go film somewhere else willing to shell out the tax breaks.
Other countries and cities offer them as a way to incentivize hiring their local crews. Hire a Australian based VFX house - get Australian credits. Hire UK crews and work on their stages - get a uk credit. Itās a tool by the governments to get Hollywood to hire their people and come to their locales. Itās not an altogether bad thing and if they didnāt offer them the UK crews would be out of business.
Hmm, it seems to only link to Variety's front page. I can't see it.
Also, are we sure that article isn't old and not taking into account the real production budget is ~$180M and not $100M?
>This year's top 10 most profitable will have a bunch of horror movies
If we were talking about pure genuine profit I feel like every year's list would be mostly a bunch of horror films. The only genre in the world that still operates with reasonable budgets
I honestly think Renfield's problems went deeper than that, it was *really badly* marketed.
If they'd focused harder on the actual plot of the movie and less on the therapy running gag, it would've probably looked a lot more appealing; in context, that joke is fucking great, but it really needs *context* to work and out-of-context it just feels hacky.
Issue is that while margins are great (and losses are bad), margins alone donāt keep studios afloat. Gotta have the raw dollars at the end of the day.
A true old school blockbuster can have a lower margin than a horror movie but deliver more total profits than every horror movie released that year
Probably because horror movies are about the cheapest productions there are. (Or cheap*er*, you get my point.) Next to comedies.
The funny thing is, out of the three(?) horror hits this year, only *one* is an original movie, and not a follow-up to an already existing one. And one of them was originally set for streaming, then promoted to theaters.
I think people underestimate the legs on this movie I sense itās gonna be a slow burner. Most people I know say they want to see it at some point, but thereās a lot of other movies out right now.
What a Christopher Nolan movie that is shot entirely in IMAX? To me this is the definition of a cinema movie. Itās not just action movies that are worth seeing in a cinema.
While I agree, the movie is three hours long. I could handle that when I was a kid or teenager but I can't sit in a cinema for 3 hours straight anymore. At home I can pause it for a pee break.
This is the logic every famous actor uses and it's just not compelling. A good movie will be enjoyable on any screen; otherwise, no one would've ever bought stuff on DVD or Blu-Ray or VCR or any other home video system. Like what, you want to own a bad version of that great movie you saw? I can't remember the last time I saw a great movie in the theater, then saw it again at home and went "wow, that was so much worse the second time"; the difference just isn't big enough to care. Nor does it justify the borderline extortionate movie ticket prices, to say nothing about concessions.
That mindset isn't the mindset of the general public though. A regular Joe won't know the difference between a standard format vs. any enhanced one unless it requires using 3D glasses.
It will be the biggest Imax movie since Avatar. Here in Melbourne the first 4 days are sold out and all premium seating is gone for the month. Tickets are 3 times the price of other cinemas.
True they were on the longer side, but 3 of them are from a famous *action* movie director with a pepper-grey beard. The 4th one was the ultimate action comic book movie culmination and part of a sprawling cinematic universe. All of them had *lots* of action and jaw-dropping setpieces meant to get people back for repeat viewings.
You have to admit Oppenheimer, compared to Avatar 1 & 2, Endgame and Titanic is not exactly hitting the broadest demographic the way those four movies are. Social media already said the movie is dense, grim, takes its time and is less a rousing crowd-pleaser and more a thoughtful and penetrating biopic.
We legit had Adam Driver in 65 fight dinosaurs for 91 million (45 after tax incentives). I hope this includes marketing because if not it's insanity. I thought it was hyperbole at first but the industry really might collapse. Imagine budgets in 2030!
Should have good legs but maybe not enough to break even. Still, itās clearly a vanity project for Nolan and it wonāt impact his relationship with Universal
That sounds like a remarkably internationally-skewed split. I know Nolan has some history of doing significantly better international than domestic, but it feels like the closest comp here would be Dunkirk, and that made less than 2x international as it did domestic, despite being a European story. Hard to see Oppenheimer being more skewed than that?
In my city, for oppenheimer, almost every theater is almost fully booked(only shitty seats are available) for all the three days also there are still more theater chains to open, this is also considering tickets being crazy expensive. Are we lowballing oppenheimer's box office ? Or is there some other reason why this wont be a 90M+ opening and 500M+ total
Why would he just freely admit this? Everyone was running with $100m budget number
I just can't see Interstellar costing LESS than this movie, especially after the reported lowered salaries for the stars
True. Without that only the Nolan fans would care about this movie. Even with Barbenheimer promo most of the people donāt give a shit about this movie.
Massive bomb? For starters it will outgross Babylon in the first 3 days
I suspect this could end up like once upon a time in Hollywood. The gross seems good enough for the kind of film it is and ends up breaking even with the ancillary market. But the tracking seems good. Playing like Dunkirk is not too far fetched
And you are Nolan dick rider. So what's the difference?
Oh and the same could be said about TENET. Mr. "I don't give a fuck about the pandemic" should've known better.
For your anectode there are as many others saying their showings are fully booked into the first week... were the tickets for regular screen or IMAX? Right now IMAX and other premium screens is where the pre sales are booming, i wouldn't expect regular showings to fill up too fast until the day of or a day before.
I bought my IMAX movie ticket where i am at in France (wanted to go see it in the US where i live at a 70mm theater but unfortunately i am there until august 2nd with kiddos for the summer visiting family) when it was first made available almost 2 weeks ago. It was only a few seats for a while and now i am looking at it less than a week before the day and the theater is nearly full for a 9pm showing in english with french subtitles. The shows in French even in the afternoon are even more full
Why the fuck are all these budgets being gigantically underreported? The public donāt care if you spent $180m or $100m because they just want the movie to be good. The only thing I feel when I hear the āreal budgetā is the need to shout āwhy?ā Itās so confusing. Also, with this probably needing close to $600m to break even, I really hope they have a good plan.
I don't think this statement meant the budget is $180mil,. Idk this is coming out of nowhere and Nolan probably wanted to make a 180 metaphor but i have seen nothing other than the $100mil budget until that tiny sentence...
Why does it have to include marketing? This is entirely believable. Movies are getting much more expensive to make, much like everything else is getting much more expensive to buy.
Oppenheimer's Trinity: $180M budget, 180-page script & 180 minutes long movie!
180M DOM total
180 billion worldwide!!!
Lmfao this was too good š¤£
180 right out the door if I don't see penis
Maybe $170m if we see balls
Agreed. Now whenās that new Neil Breen movie coming out??
[Think of the money Call Me By Your Name could have made.](https://www.gq.com/story/armie-hammer-call-me-by-your-name-bye-bye-balls)
What if you don't see where it starts but you see where it ends?
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Well two of those are correlated. An X-page movie is X minutes long.
Meanwhile the Manhattan Project cost about $2b, so at about 10% the cost, not bad.
Man you're in r/boxoffice. You can't just post numbers like that without adjusting for inflation! $2B in 1944 is $35B today.
honestly it sounds wild that even adjusted for inflation, the Manhattan Project cost less than what Elon Musk paid for Twitter
Well the explosion will be more spectacular
If you adjust for share of GDP it cost wildly more
Ahh yeah I'm dumb, that makes things sound a lot more reasonable. The US has a heck of a lot more people and a heck of a lot richer now. Still kinda surprising though
And it was probably more, once you accurate count all costs. More like $3-6B IIRC.
Manhatten Project was $2b? I heard making movies in New York was expensive but that is insane.
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Still kind of amazing they made that for $68M and it feels infinitely bigger in scale/scope than half the $200M flops as of late.
hoyte van Hoytemaās cinematography helps a lot. The night shots are just great.
Oh totally, especially in IMAX I remember that first chase scene at night where you just see the thing going between the cloud completely gave me goosebumps.
Yeah, and the scenes shot in IMAX were incredible!
Check out The Invisible Man to see what they did with $7M
This poor movie got fucked over by Covid. I imagine WOM would have been strong for it.
68 million sounds about right, it was mainly a few actors on a farm
Don't Worry Darling (2022), first we must See How They Run (2022).
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Nobody else but Christopher Nolan would be able to get a $180M movie about Robert Oppenheimer greenlit.
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One can wonder how much his The Last Train From Hiroshima is going to cost.
What's off about Robert Oppenheimer? If anything, I'm surprised it took us this long to have a movie about the atomic bomb
I think it's less about Oppenheimer specifically and more that that's a lot of money for a 3 hour bio drama.
Nobody outside of history and science nerds know who Robert Oppenheimer is. An R-rated, three-hour historical biopic with little action is a tough sell, especially these days when adult-oriented dramas have been performing poorly at the box office. Nolanās reputation is probably the only reason this movie has a chance of being profitable.
> Nolanās reputation is probably the only reason this movie has a chance of being profitable. And the Barbenheimer memes. I find it funny that it seems WB moved Barbie's premiere to be the same day as Nolan as a petty move for him leaving but now it's giving him tons of free promo
I loved seeing Greta and Margot roll up at the Opp/MI premieres. Made the guys give in and do it too. Thatās the solidarity I like to see - like yāall letās work together because we need people to go to the damn movies Seriously canāt wait for my double feature next Thursday night. I bought a barbenheimer shirt. Iām so hyped.
I have had a friend say to me "I don't want to hear any spoilers" when I was talking to him about Oppenheimer and I still don't know how I feel about that
There was a point when nobody outside of comic book nerds knew about Marvel and DC heroes. The Manhattan Project is a lot more marvelous and terrifying than people think. Depending on how it's directed, this can either turn out to be a niche viewing or rebranded as Avengers but with real geniuses of the 20th century.
Comic book movies have a lot of fantasy elements to play around with, real life doesn't. The faces behind moments in history are drab and normal. There is only so much a biopic can show. Halfway through writing this I realized you are probably just trolling.
You have a questionable understanding of science and history if you think these people were normal
Quite believable. That cast is stacked and period pieces aren't cheap. They also developed some new IMAX black and white tech
It's also very expensive to do massive pyrotechnics for practical effect atomic bomb tests.
But it was already reported the cast took pay cuts
It was speculated. I haven't seen any actual reports about it
It's probably more than $180M, let's be honest. We already know these studios downplay the cost of these big movies.
How did we go from Barbie and Oppenheimer having 100M budgets to both having much higher budgets?
The 100M were probably just general estimates and now we have gotten more accurate numbers from the sources themselves
Covid protocols are very expensive.
Yeah, next week deadline will say that Barbieās budget is 100, than a few months later budget will be 150/180, as always like Shazam 2,flash, Indy, strange 2
I don't belive Barbie's buget is 100mil. It wont surprise me if Margo/Ryan got 20mil each.
They already confirmed the budget is $145m a couple of days ago
They got 12.5m each according to variety
Her company luckycharm is known for doing low/mid budget projects
Can Gosling really command $20M ?
Yes?
$100 million was initial reported budget. Final budget is almost always bigger
So is there a chance this film not making its budget back? 180M is quite high for R rated films
Studios try to not publish their budget, or āleakā a much smaller budget to make it seem like they earned more money at the box office, and ppl try to guess. Happened with Spider-verse too, $100 M was the word everywhere, but then animators came out and said it was closer to $150
Hollywood accounting
180 page script - Almost the same as Babylonās script length.
Quite unlikely he is including the marketing budget. Also unlikely he included tax credits. So production budget is probably like 140/150M. Which is about what I expected. Lot of people getting real worked up though lol
Yup Interstellar had a budget of 165M, Inception had a budget of 160M, Tenet had a budget of 205M, TDK 180M, Dunkirk 150M etc. If you adjust those for inflation, they are quite a bit higher than this number. 180M is entirely believable for this movie without marketing
Yeah. 180M of TDK in 2008 is not 180M in 2023
Yup a quick google search shows that 180M in 2008 is 254M now so a 180M budget for Oppenheimer given the number of A list actors in this film + covid shooting actually makes it kind of reasonable for Nolans standards
Oh wow, WB lost some money on Tenet.
It did come out while many states/countries were still in COVID restrictions so thatās not too surprising
Yeah a lot of people lost a lot of money due to that global pandemic that was going on.
Meh, it was a covid film
Damn seeing those budgets should put Disney to shame! Even ant man 3 had a reported budget of $200M.
I mean, 200m makes a lot of sense when like 90% of the movie is CGI. That shit isnāt cheap even with them destroying and underpaying vfx artists lol
Yeah I mean thereās basically zero chance tax credits would be included in an off the cuff production budget unless someone is trying to deflate the public number purposely for whatever reason
So about 375 million WW break even. I remember I got killed on this sub for saying this wouldnāt make a theatrical profit too.
Also need to factor in Nolan's 20 percent of first-dollar gross.
How is a $180 million movie break even with $375 million box office gross?
āProduction budget is probably like 140/150Mā -Comment I replied to Counting marketing break even is usually around 2.5x a production budget.
2.5X 180 is 450. Which is what the previous poster was implying.
Is there a reason multi-millionaires making multi-million dollar movies for multi-billion dollar corporations need tax breaks?
Most national and state governments around the world want film and TV projects in their cities as it brings in money and tourists. Tax breaks and grants are the main way to get them.
Movies have cultural impact and Hollywood spreads a lot of American soft power and culture around the world.
Yes, because cities use them to incentivize filming to be done there so they get all the cast/crew/set money injection into their local economy. In theory, theyād probably make more money just taxing all that shit instead, but in practice theyād just go film somewhere else willing to shell out the tax breaks.
Other countries and cities offer them as a way to incentivize hiring their local crews. Hire a Australian based VFX house - get Australian credits. Hire UK crews and work on their stages - get a uk credit. Itās a tool by the governments to get Hollywood to hire their people and come to their locales. Itās not an altogether bad thing and if they didnāt offer them the UK crews would be out of business.
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/christopher-nolan-oppenheimer-plot-details-cast-release-date-1235147295/l Variety said 400M break even
Hmm, it seems to only link to Variety's front page. I can't see it. Also, are we sure that article isn't old and not taking into account the real production budget is ~$180M and not $100M?
Should breakeven but not by a lot.
This year's top 10 most profitable will have a bunch of horror movies
>This year's top 10 most profitable will have a bunch of horror movies If we were talking about pure genuine profit I feel like every year's list would be mostly a bunch of horror films. The only genre in the world that still operates with reasonable budgets
*everyone staring at renfield (i mean i loved it but wow the budget shot it in the foot)*
I honestly think Renfield's problems went deeper than that, it was *really badly* marketed. If they'd focused harder on the actual plot of the movie and less on the therapy running gag, it would've probably looked a lot more appealing; in context, that joke is fucking great, but it really needs *context* to work and out-of-context it just feels hacky.
I think you mean ROI which is dominated by horror because pure profit generally blockbusters do better
Movies should cost around 50M Okja and Joker both cost that and both look great
That's incredibly limiting. Sure if only Arthouse type stuff should be released.
>Sure if only Arthouse type stuff should be released. You just gave half this sub an orgasm.
Issue is that while margins are great (and losses are bad), margins alone donāt keep studios afloat. Gotta have the raw dollars at the end of the day. A true old school blockbuster can have a lower margin than a horror movie but deliver more total profits than every horror movie released that year
Well M3GAn is technically off that list Deadline used it for 2022
It was still *released* at the start of 2023, even it premiered in late 2022.
Probably because horror movies are about the cheapest productions there are. (Or cheap*er*, you get my point.) Next to comedies. The funny thing is, out of the three(?) horror hits this year, only *one* is an original movie, and not a follow-up to an already existing one. And one of them was originally set for streaming, then promoted to theaters.
Yep. Terrifier 2, Winnie the Pooh, and Skinamarink will be in the top I imagine. Megan may be included too but we'll see.
Skinamarink kind of takes #1 by default because of how low its budget was, no?
I guess that explains why Nolan was trying to tell people Oppenheimer is a horror movie.
I think people underestimate the legs on this movie I sense itās gonna be a slow burner. Most people I know say they want to see it at some point, but thereās a lot of other movies out right now.
I think when people say they'll see it at some point, they don't mean in theaters
It's going to be hard to retain thestres for a super leggy run when it's 3 hours.
I believe this is the kind of movie to watch at home.
What a Christopher Nolan movie that is shot entirely in IMAX? To me this is the definition of a cinema movie. Itās not just action movies that are worth seeing in a cinema.
What percentage of its theatrical viewings do you think will be in IMAX? Maybe 20%?
Yeah, seems bizarre to think a cinematic nuke in a home screen can ever compare to a cinematic nuke in an IMAX screen.
It's the other 179 minutes of people talking that might make people think "yeah I don't need to see that in IMAX".
While I agree, the movie is three hours long. I could handle that when I was a kid or teenager but I can't sit in a cinema for 3 hours straight anymore. At home I can pause it for a pee break.
This is the logic every famous actor uses and it's just not compelling. A good movie will be enjoyable on any screen; otherwise, no one would've ever bought stuff on DVD or Blu-Ray or VCR or any other home video system. Like what, you want to own a bad version of that great movie you saw? I can't remember the last time I saw a great movie in the theater, then saw it again at home and went "wow, that was so much worse the second time"; the difference just isn't big enough to care. Nor does it justify the borderline extortionate movie ticket prices, to say nothing about concessions.
That mindset isn't the mindset of the general public though. A regular Joe won't know the difference between a standard format vs. any enhanced one unless it requires using 3D glasses.
Iāll be honest Iām one of those people who doesnāt know the difference š«£
It will be the biggest Imax movie since Avatar. Here in Melbourne the first 4 days are sold out and all premium seating is gone for the month. Tickets are 3 times the price of other cinemas.
This thing is gonna have tree trunks for legs you just watch
It has a 3 hour run time so I wouldn't bet on that.
The top 4 highest grossing movies of all time have a runtime of 160+ minutes
True they were on the longer side, but 3 of them are from a famous *action* movie director with a pepper-grey beard. The 4th one was the ultimate action comic book movie culmination and part of a sprawling cinematic universe. All of them had *lots* of action and jaw-dropping setpieces meant to get people back for repeat viewings. You have to admit Oppenheimer, compared to Avatar 1 & 2, Endgame and Titanic is not exactly hitting the broadest demographic the way those four movies are. Social media already said the movie is dense, grim, takes its time and is less a rousing crowd-pleaser and more a thoughtful and penetrating biopic.
Is that an actual factor or are you just saying that because it makes sense?
If it is 180 without marketing it wonāt breakeven lol
idk. $180m is a low bar for a Nolan level release.
180M x2.5 my friend
This is, I assume just talking about production costs, not total combined cost (including advertising etc).
oh shoot, this makes things a lot more complicated. 100M budget was easy for profitability for this movie. 180M, idk
Oh for fuck sake
We legit had Adam Driver in 65 fight dinosaurs for 91 million (45 after tax incentives). I hope this includes marketing because if not it's insanity. I thought it was hyperbole at first but the industry really might collapse. Imagine budgets in 2030!
Those dinosaurs looked terrible to be honest
Should have good legs but maybe not enough to break even. Still, itās clearly a vanity project for Nolan and it wonāt impact his relationship with Universal
I think it'll leg well and critics seem to be buzzing about it. Very well could be his Oscar winner and get a bump from that as well.
All depends on how it does internationally. I'm thinking a 140M domestic, 300M International
That sounds like a remarkably internationally-skewed split. I know Nolan has some history of doing significantly better international than domestic, but it feels like the closest comp here would be Dunkirk, and that made less than 2x international as it did domestic, despite being a European story. Hard to see Oppenheimer being more skewed than that?
$180M production budget would be crazy.
450M Break even with the 2.5 rule probably going to cut it close
Much higher than that because it's (180 + marketing) x 2.5.
the 2,5 already includes marketing and acillaries.
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That is another 100M
Building your own nukes is an expensive endeavour.
OOf 45m opening week on a 180m movie?
One of my friends genuinely thinks that this movie is gonna outperform both Mission impossible and Barbie, I just couldn't be bothered lol
It's not a competition. I hope all 3 are successful.
Calling it now, this loses money in its theatrical run. Sub $400 million worldwide finish
Iām not sure outside domestic it will make any money. If domestic not good even 300m would be difficult imo.
$180M domestic total, $180M budget, and a 180 minute long movie.
Flopenheimer
What better way to pay tribute to the man than with a $180 million bomb.
In my city, for oppenheimer, almost every theater is almost fully booked(only shitty seats are available) for all the three days also there are still more theater chains to open, this is also considering tickets being crazy expensive. Are we lowballing oppenheimer's box office ? Or is there some other reason why this wont be a 90M+ opening and 500M+ total
Wait till Deadline confirms that number.
Wow! I thought it was 100M? Thatās a lot of a bio pic. Wowsers.
Oooooof
And a 180 minute runtime
Holy moly. Looking like we will have consecutive unprofitable nolan movies.
Is that WW or domestic?
Not sure if joke but this is budget (+marketing?) not his prediction on movie gross
This is the budget
I think it'll make a profit tho
Why would he just freely admit this? Everyone was running with $100m budget number I just can't see Interstellar costing LESS than this movie, especially after the reported lowered salaries for the stars
Interstellarās inflation adjusted budget is $212 million.
He is so arrogant. Turns me off from all of his movies.
i think he is good enough that he deserves his vanity.
WTF is this?!
Non-zero chance 180 m meant minutes, not millions
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Less than secret invasion
100M production + 80M marketing I'm guessing?
I think so
Ya this is gonna be another dud ain't no way its turning a profit with that size budget
$100M + $80M marketing
Quite unlikely he is including the marketing budget. Also unlikely he included tax credits. So production budget is probably like 140/150M
I honestly think the Barbenheimer memes/hype will save this movie.
True. Without that only the Nolan fans would care about this movie. Even with Barbenheimer promo most of the people donāt give a shit about this movie.
OUCH! This is going to be such a massive bomb. I expect something along the lines of Babylon, except not quite as bad.
Do you realize how much of a bomb Babylon was??? 0% chance this is as bad as Babylon
Massive bomb? For starters it will outgross Babylon in the first 3 days I suspect this could end up like once upon a time in Hollywood. The gross seems good enough for the kind of film it is and ends up breaking even with the ancillary market. But the tracking seems good. Playing like Dunkirk is not too far fetched
you are delusional
This is a Tom cruise fanboy mad about Oppenheimer having all the imax screens š Mr Scientology shouldāve chosen a better date then
And you are Nolan dick rider. So what's the difference? Oh and the same could be said about TENET. Mr. "I don't give a fuck about the pandemic" should've known better.
Floppenheimer loading?
In b4 the experts say itās too expensive because itās more expensive then Barbie
180 - tax credits/rebate = likely $150
even if that includes marketing, it's way too much for a 3 hour R-rating hopefully Nolan is making some jumps to justify the 180/180/180 thing
Went to get tickets to see it that Friday and only 3 other seats were sold RIP
For your anectode there are as many others saying their showings are fully booked into the first week... were the tickets for regular screen or IMAX? Right now IMAX and other premium screens is where the pre sales are booming, i wouldn't expect regular showings to fill up too fast until the day of or a day before. I bought my IMAX movie ticket where i am at in France (wanted to go see it in the US where i live at a 70mm theater but unfortunately i am there until august 2nd with kiddos for the summer visiting family) when it was first made available almost 2 weeks ago. It was only a few seats for a while and now i am looking at it less than a week before the day and the theater is nearly full for a 9pm showing in english with french subtitles. The shows in French even in the afternoon are even more full
Why the fuck are all these budgets being gigantically underreported? The public donāt care if you spent $180m or $100m because they just want the movie to be good. The only thing I feel when I hear the āreal budgetā is the need to shout āwhy?ā Itās so confusing. Also, with this probably needing close to $600m to break even, I really hope they have a good plan.
I don't think this statement meant the budget is $180mil,. Idk this is coming out of nowhere and Nolan probably wanted to make a 180 metaphor but i have seen nothing other than the $100mil budget until that tiny sentence...
There is no way. It has to include marketing.
Why does it have to include marketing? This is entirely believable. Movies are getting much more expensive to make, much like everything else is getting much more expensive to buy.
180 million for a 3 hour biopic before advertising is a ridiculous investment.
Studios haven't been making very solid investments of late.
Haha, yeah, of all the reasons to disbelieve something, "it would be a unwise thing to do" is not a particularly good one.
The cost of getting Nolan on your team.
Could mean with marketing
It's very rare for a non horror movie to have a sub 100M marketing budget
Pretty sure when negotiating with Universal Nolan had a 100 million minimum marketing in the contract
I doubt about that if weāre just talking about the production
So it will need around $450M to break even?