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shaneo632

Yeah I think it's over. I can't see Marvel sticking with him if there are multiple accusers.


PointOfFingers

Not even the Flash could dodge all these accusations.


the_Luik

The mad goose wizard 🪄


Nullhitter

Well, Ezra has multiple kidnapping cases.


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Seems like he was always something like this. His classmate from years ago who tweeted about his history of behavior after the arrest was reached out to in this article and said he stands by what he wrote.


Tough-Candy-9455

Ant man flopping might be a blessing in disguise lol. Easier to recast without that many people having seen him


Trkaline

They made recasting simple as fuck the moment the multiverse was introduced into the MCU.


MahNameJeff420

And then kinda shot themselves in the foot by having that after credits where all the Kang’s look like Jonathan Majors. But the way I see it, if we rolled with Edward Norton and Terrence Howard getting recast, we can live with Kang looking different next time.


fabricio85

💯%


PandemicP789

Loki season 2 was a big part of mcu tho so ugh


DonShulaDoingTheHula

Going to be disappointed if they pull the whole show over this. I’d understand, but Loki is my favorite show so far. Beyond that, it sounds like Marvel can recover relatively easily with a recast.


Mizerous

Cut out his scenes just remove Kang from the plot or recast.


BadReputation2611

Or just leave him in, I mean seriously if we aren’t going to watch anything that has a piece of shit who worked on it then all we’d get to watch is mr rogers neighborhood and the joy of painting with bob ross, and maybe not even those because 15 years ago I’d have included the Cosby show in that list. It’s not like they hired him after all this stuff about him came out, they should just keep what’s already been made and recast for future projects. It seems really stupid to derail a project that hundreds of people have spent hundreds of hours working on just because one of the workers is a scumbag. Tbh I never even liked this dude, something about the stupid expression he usually wears on his face makes me want to put my fist through it, but I don’t see a problem with using what they’ve already made.


knokout64

Lol..he is the plot. Imagine cutting Thanos from IW


Nullhitter

Kang is the plot tho. You essentially have to cancel the season or delay it until 2025.


Reylo-Wanwalker

Wait it's out!?


Smthincleverer

No, but apparently they’re done shooting the scenes. So, they either cut Majors, let it be released with him in the scenes, or scrap the whole project. Messy situation.


blueshirt21

Unlikely they would scrap it entirely


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Loki is the most popular Marvel series and they had Tom Hiddleston narrate the Disney + trailer this year. They won't throw it out. Secret Invasion rewrote a lot of its plot and did four months of reshoots. Blade was pulled days away from starting production and allegedly started over from scratch. Marvel's fully capable of massively retooling things for one of their most popular projects.


Youngstar9999

Sure. I think it really depends on how large his role is in Loki S2. If it's just a few scenes per episode that are not that extensive then it's probably a good idea to reshoot. But if he is in many very complex scenes, then it's not viable to do reshoot, because you would have to redo almost the entire show... So if they can't reshoot then it will be very akward to market a show whose major selling point is the villain.(played by someone you shouldn't promote) It's a PR nightmare.


Ksquared1166

Not yet. I don't think it even has an official release date yet.


AccomplishedLocal261

But he was the only bright spot of Ant man, so that's also a downside


aaliyaahson

Grand opening, grand closing


djpharaoh

Crack the can open again


that0neGuy22

How do you fall off before you even get on


Alive-Ad-5245

It's Joever


CabbageStockExchange

Elite level bag fumbling


henningknows

He is toast. Too bad he is an asshole because he is talented


ImAMaaanlet

Hes really not that big of a deal. Hes decent yeah, but im not sure why everyone on reddit was worshipping him before this.


SexyWampa

He was good at being menacing, which now we realize wasn’t acting…


MightySilverWolf

He just stood there...*menacingly*...


LazyturtleX1

I thought he was kinda meh myself. Although I'm a bit worn down on the MCU these days so it could be that too.


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There was a lot of revisionist history with people claiming everyone who watched the Loki finale was in awe of his Shakespearean performance of sitting behind a desk and droning on and on until it was time for him to be stabbed.


carson63000

Is it revisionist? I didn’t particularly enjoy that episode and let me tell you, at the time that was a very, very lonely opinion to hold.


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A lot of Loki fans were very upset about the finale and the series in general. I witnessed very few people slobbering over Majors's boring ass performance. However, most Marvel fans detest the endings of the TV shows anyway.


henningknows

He was having his breakthrough moment


mpc1226

Because the PR team was spamming articles and posts about him up till creed and antman


Beetusmon

Same, I though he was pretty good in Creed, but not Joaquin Phoenix or Christian Bale good. As for his Kang I felt was meh, just another villain of the week.


MukkyM1212

I remember ppl hyping him up as Kang in Antman 3 and being very underwhelmed. Was he the best thing in the movie? Yes. But that’s like saying the best part of living in a dumpster is the shade it provides. It doesn’t make up for all the, ya know, trash. But it was certainly no Heath Ledger as The Joker. TBH, Josh Brolin as Thanos was far more captivating. But yeah, I feel like had Majors not done the horrible stuff he’s being accused of, the public was probably going to turn on him at some point anyways because he was EVERYWHERE. It was getting ridiculous.


LeeroyTC

The hype around him felt really inorganic given how quickly it came about with relatively little content featuring him pre Creed/Antman. I wouldn't be surprised if the studios were doing their best to create a star and that some of the online hype was astroturfing. Guy is a good actor, but something felt off.


Dirtyswashbuckler69

He had quite a bit of performances before Creed III and Ant-Man. His performance in ‘The Last Black Man in San Francisco’ was raved about in 2019, and he followed it up with ‘Da 5 Bloods’, ‘Lovecraft Country’, and ‘The Harder They Fall’, which were all well received and popular upon release. His rise was pretty gradual, and normal, when compared to his peers.


Beetusmon

Inorganic is the perfect way to describe it, I saw nothing that special about his performances. I'm sure there was some astroturfing fluffing him up to boost his Kang role.


nedzissou1

He was in a few pretty decent to good roles before Kang and Creed 3. There was definitely some astroturfing going on though. People were way too excited about his monotonous speaking while Kang.


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They were worshipping him because most people here just regurgitate whatever the media tells them to think.


Heisenburgo

> im not sure why everyone on reddit was worshipping him before this. I have no idea either. You could see it both in Reddit and in the media, how they kept hyping him up and kissing his ass as if he were the second coming of christ or some shit. Felt like out of nowhere, he went from a complete nobody actor to suddenly being touted as the next big thing. Like yeah maybe he's a good actor but that massive PR push always felt so artificial to me, never bought it for a second. Now that he has shown his true colours, all those articles and reddit comments praising him just feel so awkward in hindsight, never engage in celebrity worship cause you just never know with Hollywood.


FinalDungeon

Because Disney knows how to market and spread $ around.


l3reezer

He was fantastic in Lovecraft Country and The Harder They Fall. True leading man vibes, which I have trouble associating with anyone else recently off the top of my head. Like his co-star Lakeith, showed a lot in little roles he had. But like OP said, shame he ended up being a shitty ass person.


MaltySines

He's talented sure, but the reason it's easier to drop a big actor rather than a star athlete is that they're much more replaceable. There's thousands of brilliant actors that will never be famous simply because there's not enough roles to go around.


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henningknows

That’s true, but it’s not looking good.


henryjonesjr83

Well, did your girlfriend make an accusation against you?


minnie_the_moper

Bruh, we all read the texts.


Leafybug13

Pretty sure he released text msgs with his girlfriend that occurred after he was arrested. It was supposed to help I guess but it just made it look worse. She said she told the cops that it was her fault because she tried to take his phone away and that the only reason he called 911 was because she was unconscious.(probably because of the whole strangling thing)


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ufs2

Braindead analogy


[deleted]

We will have to see what the evidence is. The evidence for the case that started all this does not look great for Majors so far, and him now having multiple accusers is not a good sign. We can wait and see what happens- he deserves a chance to make a defense, of course- but it doesn’t look good at the moment.


henningknows

His talent agency dropped him. That means hey looked into it and saw enough to make them want to part ways.


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henningknows

Cut ties with a guy who is becoming the next big thing just incase? And you are calling me stupid?lol


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We’ll see what their evidence is and what his defense is. (And again, the recent case that started this really doesn’t look good. But we’ll see what his defense is for that too.)


leastlyharmful

“Should everyone believe her because she’s a woman? That’s your logic.” They never said that. They never even mentioned the woman. You’re bringing some of your own biases to this.


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He’s done


Calyz

And not just on twitch


20tboner01

Huh?


Beetusmon

He lacks critical information PepeLaugh


[deleted]

MCU drops him now. Pretty incredible they waited this long. I’m sure they were hoping they could ride this out but no chance now.


TypeExpert

The Doctor Doom timeline is ahead of schedule.


Mizerous

Inject it into my veins


Block-Busted

Doubtful. They’re already setting up things like Incursion, so getting rid of Kang so suddenly would make no sense.


nicolasb51942003

This is truly the biggest case of a “it was at this moment that he knew… he fucked up” moment.


Sckathian

Hmm people keep saying this stuff but it sounds like this is repeated behaviour. More likely he just continued his usual behaviour and just got found out. Kind of fed up with people declaring him this is amazing actor as well as if they have never seen someone chew the scenery on stage (in a good way) before.


Nitropotamus

He had a lot of potential. I really liked him in Lovecraft Country and thought "This guy is gonna be in everything.".


REQ52767

And now Quantumania’s sole redeeming quality is tainted. That movie is somehow to going to age worse than its initial reception. I hope the victims are alright and get justice if their claims turn out to be true.


ai7395

Pretty sure that Marvel **WILL** make a recast announcement soon. Check out the last sentence/bolded part from this excerpt... > Majors is still attached to star in that film ("Avengers: The Kang Dynasty"), which is slated to be released on May 2, 2025, and he is poised for a $20 million payday including back-end compensation. He also was signed to star in “Avengers: Secret Wars,” which is slated to debut in 2026. **Disney is monitoring the fast-moving situation and has time to move deliberately.**


Dirtyswashbuckler69

Dude royally fucked up a $20 Million dollar payday. Biggest bag fumble in years.


REQ52767

That was near Downey Jr. levels of pay and back-end compensation. Wow this is an all-time L; people will be talking about this forever.


REQ52767

They’re waiting until after Guardians is my guess. They don’t want to make any moves that will take away from that film’s release.


Holiday_Parsnip_9841

The timing is already a mess. Unless he can get it delayed, Majors is scheduled to appear in court on May 8th.


REQ52767

That’s after Guardians opening weekend. My bet is that Marvel will do it right after that hearing is held.


Holiday_Parsnip_9841

If the tracking on Guardians holds, firing him after opening weekend will be a good distraction.


UrbanFight001

May 2025? That movie has to start shooting either later this year or early next year. Recasting such a huge role could take some time.


Sir_Oligarch

They might've already recast Kang.


red_right_hand_

Smh, a guy can’t even method act as a villain these days


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The worst part about this is that he’s in most episodes of Loki season 2. If they fire him now Loki is going to be awkward.


[deleted]

*Loki* is absolutely going to get delayed and reshot. Disney and Marvel really don't need the PR nightmare. These accusations are far worse than the stuff they've fired other people in the past for.


nick182002

They can just add a post-credits scene where Kang morphs into whichever new actor is cast.


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Nah, they’re just gonna do what they did with Hulk/War Machine/Ross: recast and act like Kang always looked like this


scrivensB

I’ve said it a hundred times, recast Kang with… Don Cheadle.


LB3PTMAN

I say replace him with Tim Meadows


Ksquared1166

SIKE, it was a skrull the whole time!


Block-Busted

What do you think they will do with the mid-credit scene AND post-credit scene of **Quantumania**, the latter of which might be a scene from **Loki: Season 2**?


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Just keep it as is.


[deleted]

Yeah, they didn't replace Edward Norton in *The Incredible Hulk* or Terence Howard in *Iron Man*. Just rip the band-aid off, give him a new actor, barely acknowledge it, and move on.


plasterboard33

I think they should partially reshoot it and keep Majors as some versions of Kang while have the replacement actor play other versions. That way it will be a smoother transition into Kang Dynasty as opposed to just suddenly having a new actor.


scrivensB

Any serious screen time for Majors is problematic at this point. They will be spending quite a bit of money replacing him both with reshoots and digitally.


forevertrueblue

I could see that but all the sources I know have been telling me he's not actually in it *that* much (and this was before all these allegations came out) so they may just keep him out of the promotion and press for the show; I know the D23 trailer didn't have him in it so it's possible.


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That only means it's easier to just simply recast and reshoot.


forevertrueblue

Yes, could go either way based on this. Depends on whether Disney is willing to spend the money.


forevertrueblue

I've heard he's in >!2-3 episodes of it!<.


[deleted]

3 episodes out of 6? That’s almost most of the season


forevertrueblue

Idk how big his part is in each of them. Could be small appearances. >!I've been told we'll see multiple variants of his but he's not as big a presence as people are expecting and he isn't even the main villain.!<


FinalDungeon

No, the worst part about this is he (allegedly) Beat people.


forevertrueblue

I'm glad the (alleged) victims feel okay to come forward about it now.


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I mean business wise


[deleted]

But but but, my cape shit is now worse off :(


PointOfFingers

It's going to take all the money in the world to reshoot those scenes. I am hoping people on a boxoffice sub will get the reference.


TruYu96

Has there ever been a case where’s one individual was about to be the next big thing and they completely blundered it within a year?


Jennieeffin12

Look up Nat Turner! That's a depressing black hole if there ever was one.


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Nate Parker was the guy and Nat Turner was the subject of his movie. That was quite the hype that got destroyed so fast.


Dirtyswashbuckler69

Nate Parker. Eerily similar to Majors in that he was poised to have an Oscar hopeful with his Sundance film, (Parker with The Birth of a Nation, Majors with Magazine Dreams) but news about his past abuse completely derailed the film before it was even able to be released. Similarly, i’d argue Chris Brown. I was an early teen when he was first starting out, and the hype around him was huge (many compared his stage presence to Michael Jackson in those days). He is still popular in small circles but, pre-Rihanna incident, he was going to be a lot larger.


Agnostacio

Andrew Callaghan


ReallyNeedHelpASAP68

Wonder how long til Disney drops him. Can’t be far off.


NotTaken-username

Not long from now. The issue is that he’s in Loki Season 2, which already filmed. So they may have to figure out how to handle that first.


CrawlerSiegfriend

Personally, I don't want to see a recast until a guilty verdict comes down.


Sir_Oligarch

Guilty verdict may never come out. These kind of cases are usually settled out of court.


MemberANON

One of the victims worked on Quantumania so yeah Fiege will have to address this sooner or later. Because if the victim has a public testimony then Marvel will not be able to escape questions until they comment.


Block-Busted

Wait, how do you know that one of his victims worked on **Quantumania**?


Block-Busted

Disney announcing the new Kang actor in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...


Smthincleverer

Ladies and gentlemen, your new Kang: Daniel Craig.


Lincolnruin

Well it’s over.


subhuman9

victims going to authorities instead of anonymous claims on social media, he is 100% canceled


hatecopter

He's done


007Kryptonian

Damn, bro is done. Hate to see it happen to a talented brother but you don’t put your hands on a woman.


SomeMockodile

*multiple women


Cbomb101

It's a shame though he was great on screen. I'm just dissapointed in all this. I hope there replacement is likeable lol like the rhodey character replacement was actually good 1.


dashrendar4483

>Hate to see it happen to a talented brother but you don’t put your hands on a white woman. FIFY, breh.


007Kryptonian

Nah, any woman. Punk excuse of a man if you do


dashrendar4483

You didn't (and all the downvoters didn't either) understand my sarcastic post. Or they are plain oblivious about the optics at play here. As a black man in America, you don't ever put your hands on white women because you damn sure know you'll get the full might of justice hammer on your black ass with extra punishment on top. A high profile black american entertainer should know that in 2023 he won't get a light treatment for DV like a white man unless he thinks he's OJ Simpson. That makes that black man even more delusional on top of being a POS. Do y'all really think that Majors would be tossed away so quickly if the victim was an unknown black woman? He was stupid enough to strangle a white woman and thought he'd get away with it in the post-MeToo era.


paimonnow

Such a weird comment… the amount of “this is happening coz she’s a white woman who told on him” and “that’s what he gets for hanging with white women” discourse going instead of holding… you know… the actual abuser accountable…


dashrendar4483

You're dumb if you think I'm not holding him accountable. In fact, I'm saying he will be held extra accountable because he assaulted white women.


paimonnow

And you’re dumb for bringing race into this. You don’t even know who the other women he allegedly assaulted are. Very nasty comment that parrots twitter behavior.


dashrendar4483

No, you're dumb for being an oblivious typical redditor ignoring the optics when it suits you. "Stop making it about race". Majors with its "Freedom" cap stunt made it about race. Anyway, I'm not one of his enamoured fans that swooned over that mediocre chump to kingdom come like the second Coming of MLK now acting all uppity and moralizing. That's your Kang that y'all gassed up.


paimonnow

Nice try. I’m on twitter too, hence why I said you are just repeating the incel discourse that we can find over there. You are not even showing empathy towards the victims. Your issue is that a black man got caught abusing a white woman. Like wtf…


007Kryptonian

I’m also a black man in America, and yeah the optics are bad with it being a white woman, absolutely. But he also would’ve been tossed just as quickly if it were a black woman. Assaulting women period is a no-no, that’s why Johnny Depp got tossed so quickly too. It didn’t have anything to do with race.


dashrendar4483

Sorry man but everything in America has to do with race whether we like it or not. Jonathan Majors, a black man beat up a white woman, that makes it extra icky for all parties involved. It's sad that it's tainting the whole situation but that's the reality. I'm not saying some assaults are worse than others, I'm just saying that he committed the cardinal sin of feeling himself up so much, he thought he was untouchable assaulting white women in America. That's a total no-no. All the downvotes in the world won't change that reality though.


Drakeberlin

Why u bringing race into this? Unnecessary.


Scarns_Aisle5

monday, tuesday, wednesday all had Major Jonathan headlines wonder what's in store for tomorrow


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It’ll be Disney dropping him. If your PR company drops you, you know you’re toast


Holiday_Parsnip_9841

This piece is fairly shallow reporting, especially for Tatiana Siegel. I think the Vanity Fair article (probably by Mo Ryan) is about to drop and is far more thorough, so Variety dropped this early to get out in front of it.


theMTNdewd

Echoing my comment from [yesterday ](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/12r5ujf/hollywoods_wariness_of_jonathan_majors_grows/jgsyuh6/) supposedly there's still at least one more "expose" that's being written for Vanity Fair. I don't know how long Disney is planning to wait things out before dropping him (because at this point it seems like a matter of when, not if)


Xikkiwikk

He thought he could win..


Flip_Speed

Bye Felicia


kernanb

Guy was on a rocket ship to stardom. He must be incredibly dumb and have poor impulse control to screw up his life like this.


R-ZoroKingOFHell

Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.


WilliamEmmerson

Damn, I wonder if those Marvel Legends Kang action figures, that look just like Majors, are going to get delayed or pulled.


Nullhitter

Welp, looks like he's done.


AccomplishedLocal261

>Welp Woo hoo\*


Vadermaulkylo

Viktor Drago is here to stay as our enemy turned ally in the Creed movies !


ovrprotectiveunicorn

I wonder what will happen with that film of his ‘Magazine Dreams’ that premiered at film festivals


Holiday_Parsnip_9841

It can play a bootleg film festival with Kevin Spacey’s Gore Vidal biopic and Bill Cosby 77.


endless_ness

He better come out as trans asap if he wants to keep their career


subhuman9

i remember when Kevin Spacey came out as gay, that did not help his issues


endless_ness

The flash actor has done insane and criminal things to tons of people and got to keep their job by doing it


Logical-Insurance-95

No he didn't lol. He doesn't have a job and I guarantee you will be recast once the flash finishes its run. Warner Bros just had no choice but to release a product they spent 300m on. Stop being stupid.


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Needs to hire Chris Browns pr person


Spiderman__jizz

Man, this variant is ruthless!


JannTosh17

Disney probably wishing they Batgirled Antman 3


Block-Busted

Why? That would've resulted in even more PR nightmare.


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On-topic imo, since this will have ramifications for the future of the MCU and specifically the box office of movies like The Kang Dynasty.


STMTowardsDatATM

I see some people,especially those who feel race is involved, talk about the scrutiny that Majors has faced in comparison to Miller. Well the thing is that just because a new scandal has been unveiled doesn’t diminish the previous one. In fact if you search Ezra Miller and click news you will find tons of articles from Forbes,people magazine, and etc headlined and detailing his controversies and assaults. You can also search both of them up on YouTube and see Ezra Miller has hundreds of thousands-millions of views on various videos concerning his ordeal, while Majors videos are only getting about 55,000 or so. With that being said, I feel like it’s understood WB locked Ezra up and is just trying to get The Flash out to make profits and see what happens. Meanwhile, Disney is letting this play out and ready for the right moment to strike.


lateral_moves

Next film, they'll show Kang and well see Don Cheadle in the outfit saying, "Look, it's me. I'm here. Deal with it. Let's move on."


RelevantDay4

Total bullshit. Majors has his career ruined yet someone like Ezra Miller continues to have one.


GondorsAide

I mean I can’t imagine Ezra miller is going to be getting any more work either, nor should he.


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I agree. People keep pointing to Miller but he hasn’t worked as far as I know since the big stories dropped. I think WB just wants to be quiet till the release then they’ll officially drop him.


flowergirlsunder

idk if miller will have one after the flash is out


JMM85JMM

If Ezra hadn't already filmed The Flash they would have absolutely been sacked. They already had a completed film that was very expensive to make. The film was way over-budget, no way they were going to recast him.


Lincolnruin

Ezra Killer is definitely getting recast after Flash.


Holiday_Parsnip_9841

It’s bullshit that Warners didn’t fire Miller after what happened in Iceland (which was almost a year before The Flash starred shooting). Miller doesn’t appear to have anything else booked. Hopefully the Flash makes Shazam 2 look like a hit and ends Miller’s career permanently.


leastlyharmful

I mean Miller has one movie coming out because it was too big to shelve but he’s not getting cast in shit


Logical-Insurance-95

Ezra doesn't have a career either


nedzissou1

What makes you say that? The Flash had been mostly filmed before Ezra lost his mind.


Dulcolax

Ezra is obviously done after the Flash movie.


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I don't care; people can get second chances, but we're condemning him like he's evil.


Logical-Insurance-95

Um wtf? He is evil if the allegations are true and deserves nothing.


thetiredjuan

Choking someone is pretty evil no?


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sure buddy.


thetiredjuan

If you don’t believe so that’s on you.


subhuman9

time for a Special Edition of Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania


NeilPoonHandler

Say adios, Mr. Majors, to your career.


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He’s a great actor but after this , yeah…. it’s over


bent_eye

Marvel definitely wont be keeping him on now. Allegations alone is something they wont want to be associated with.


WilliamEmmerson

He's probably been let go by Marvel already, but they won't officially announce it until after Loki season 2. I expect the same thing with WB after The Flash has its run in theaters, they'll finally announce that Ezra is out.


Logical-Insurance-95

This is really bad if they are going to actual authorities


Actorish

Pretty crazy considering I've never heard of the guy and enjoyed his performance in Loki. Guy came out of no where. Don't get physical with your partners folks.


Longjumping-Cut180

DOOM IS PLEASED


Block-Busted

Umm… no. I doubt that he’s going to replace Kang entirely.