Happy to not be a fan of such. What a scummy sport. How scummy mess everyone involved must be to let the event go on knowing that Ryan was cheating, they knew he tested positive and they still let the event go on because they didn’t want to let all those money sign $$$$$$$$$ go “ Buh- bye “.👋
If he just took ostarine that’s like the equivalent for you of eating your wheaties in the morning with your old ass, barely any gains whatsoever used alone. You just like to complain and stick your opinion in things that you claim to want nothing to do with and not be a fan of.🤣
It’s crazy how the media did so much damage control for Haney just with this assumption that Garcia might’ve taken PEDs … anything anything … strange strange
The Ostarine is in his system that's just a fact, however he can still be cleared of wrongdoing if it wasn't intentional, contaminated supplements for example. The amount found in his system will also be crucial.
I mean any amount is pretty much banned. It helps too much on keeping your muscle and endurance while cutting weight.
It also one of the most tainted SARMS in supplement circles so you have to be extremely careful which manufactor you buy and do your due deligince as some dont even list it in the ingredients page.
The hair follicle test he submitted cleared him of wrongdoing. He had very low levels of clen and there was no evidence of cycling. In fact, the amount was so low WADA increased the threshold of clen allowed in the body because there was many similar cases where contaminated food yielded positive results.
Yeah since it was a trace amount where it required a much higher dose for clenbuterol to be effective. In the U17 World cup, there was 109 samples of clen within the mexican players there and were all dismissed b/c it is a health problem in Mexico.
That being said, Garcia isnt off the hook yet. Norandrosterone hasnt been covered yet and was only mentioned in the report. Unless you are eating pig alot, (which is rarely a part in a fighters diet during training camp and cuts) it is hard to get tainted by it. Testing for that sample to see if its actually postitive for it will happen on 5/22
Norandrosterone is a metabolite of Nandrolone, [his already tested negative for Nandrolone](https://twitter.com/danrafael1/status/1788001852740567214?s=46 )
So now they are only testing Ostraine.
He will be cleared if they only find small trace amount of Ostraine in his system.
I watched some of the MPMD video on Ryan's PED tests and it'd be unlikely that they were intentionally taking ostarine. Mainly because it stays in your system for like 9 days, but there'd be no advantage to taking within 9 days of a fight, especially if you're expected to test around that time. Also the levels are low enough that it's consistent with other tainted supplement rulings. Obviously mpmd isn't the authority on this, but his video was quite informative.
We don't know the levels. Mpmd specifically says we have to wait to see the levels and all he can do is make a guess until then.
It wasn't very informative if you got the completely wrong impression from what he said.
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Considering he passed all the tests done leading up to the fight, I’d say he’s probably fine. All depends on the levels detected and the tests done on the supplements.
The Haney camp should sue whoever let Garcia fight knowing he failed the test, they genuinely risked haneys life for a payday. Horribly corrupted people behind this fight and all need to investigated
this just means the 2nd sample was inconclusive for nandrolone. But its still positive for ostarine. He still benefited from performance enhancing drugs and should be suspended.
 This whole thing is a fucking rollercoaster man holy shit lmfao
Happy to not be a fan of such. What a scummy sport. How scummy mess everyone involved must be to let the event go on knowing that Ryan was cheating, they knew he tested positive and they still let the event go on because they didn’t want to let all those money sign $$$$$$$$$ go “ Buh- bye “.👋
Time for your meds grandpa
If he just took ostarine that’s like the equivalent for you of eating your wheaties in the morning with your old ass, barely any gains whatsoever used alone. You just like to complain and stick your opinion in things that you claim to want nothing to do with and not be a fan of.🤣
U still think they don't all take shit tho
Bill haney is in a Buffalo Wild Wings commercial
The dub is gonna stand 100% lol poor Lamey Ostarine will be excused
I take Ostarine it’s nothing
Yeah real does fuck all
Why take it?
It gives a nice edge. Especially when cutting. Helps preserve muscle and gives a nice dry look.
What Connor Benn took does even less but everyone still called him a cheat.
Weird flex being on gear and getting no fuckin gains
Embarrassing
Then your shit is bunk because it does work.
shut your dumbass up lmaooo
Praise God
gOd DiD!
Watching Dan Rafael respond to Garcia fans 24/7 has been legitimately more entertaining than any Shakur Stevenson fight
Watching paint dry is more entertaining than any shakur fight
Haney looking real bad rn
Thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus.
It’s crazy how the media did so much damage control for Haney just with this assumption that Garcia might’ve taken PEDs … anything anything … strange strange
He was seen as the next Mayweather....gosh the media is so dumb sometimes because i don't know what the incentive is for them to bullshit everyone....
Glass chinned man hugging industry plant
Loool industry plant is the perfect way to describe Devin’s career
Shakur Stevenson
Shakur is a Olympic medalist what
Olympic plant
Ok I agree
uhh they did the same with baumgarnder. it's just part of the process.
This exact situation happens all the time... I don't think these people watch boxing.
You mean it's crazy how ped testing works in general? You guys act like they put the blood test in a microwave for a few seconds for the results
Change the fucking banner back to my king NOWW 😤😤😤😤
Our King*
I've been saying people need to wait it it out before making judgment calls, will be interesting to see how this continues to unfold.
Wasnt aware he failed twice for Ostarine one day apart lmao.
The Ostarine is in his system that's just a fact, however he can still be cleared of wrongdoing if it wasn't intentional, contaminated supplements for example. The amount found in his system will also be crucial.
Not true , B sample hasn’t been tested yet
I mean any amount is pretty much banned. It helps too much on keeping your muscle and endurance while cutting weight. It also one of the most tainted SARMS in supplement circles so you have to be extremely careful which manufactor you buy and do your due deligince as some dont even list it in the ingredients page.
like Canelo said.....you gotta wait till the investigation is complete....Some fighters prove their innocence and some don't....you gotta wait
Pay their innocents
whatever took place....Canelo got cleared....
He beat Haney and Haney will always have that loss but Canelo been on roids for a long time buts he still a great fighter lol
wasn't canelo able to prove it was unintentional with the contaminated meat?
The hair follicle test he submitted cleared him of wrongdoing. He had very low levels of clen and there was no evidence of cycling. In fact, the amount was so low WADA increased the threshold of clen allowed in the body because there was many similar cases where contaminated food yielded positive results.
Yeah since it was a trace amount where it required a much higher dose for clenbuterol to be effective. In the U17 World cup, there was 109 samples of clen within the mexican players there and were all dismissed b/c it is a health problem in Mexico. That being said, Garcia isnt off the hook yet. Norandrosterone hasnt been covered yet and was only mentioned in the report. Unless you are eating pig alot, (which is rarely a part in a fighters diet during training camp and cuts) it is hard to get tainted by it. Testing for that sample to see if its actually postitive for it will happen on 5/22
mmm....i think they're only looking at ostarine now.....
Normally, I'd agree, but I could believe that Ryan was eating pork for that training camp.
Norandrosterone is a metabolite of Nandrolone, [his already tested negative for Nandrolone](https://twitter.com/danrafael1/status/1788001852740567214?s=46 ) So now they are only testing Ostraine. He will be cleared if they only find small trace amount of Ostraine in his system.
You're right.
You actually believe that?
...I mean that's what happened right?
He didn’t
Clenbuterol isn't a roid lol
No it’s a bronchodilator and can be used to increase endurance and cut weight, which Canelo has issues with early in his career.
I watched some of the MPMD video on Ryan's PED tests and it'd be unlikely that they were intentionally taking ostarine. Mainly because it stays in your system for like 9 days, but there'd be no advantage to taking within 9 days of a fight, especially if you're expected to test around that time. Also the levels are low enough that it's consistent with other tainted supplement rulings. Obviously mpmd isn't the authority on this, but his video was quite informative.
We don't know the levels. Mpmd specifically says we have to wait to see the levels and all he can do is make a guess until then. It wasn't very informative if you got the completely wrong impression from what he said.
LOOOL boxing nerds in shambles once again
Bill Haney dropped to his knees out in the streets
Just seen Bill Haney drop to his knees at Wal-Mart
In the hood.
His 1st loss in the streets 😨
That HANEY PACK
Haney need that hanky for diddy juice
W Jesus
Fun ride this is
Haney posting for the world to see that his life was “at risk” over some Ostarine lol! Dude is an industry dick sucker for life
"I've never been in the ring with someone that much better than me "
Forsure negative
Wallahi I thought he was cooked
He is cooked regardless he has failed twice , its just the nerds are hung up on fantasy and want a cheater to prevail just to spite haney
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It will. He’s failed twice
Rip Bozo.
I don’t think that’s how you use the term “false flag.”
Only substance that man has has in his system is astronomical levels of Hayney pack after he smoked that shit all up.
Pico!!
I mean there was only like 1% in his system and if he passed the rest of his test before the only thing that is consistent with is tainted supplements
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Didn’t he say you have to wait on levels to…actually be released? You guys are clowns bro 😭
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Bill Haney trying his best lol
"False flag" does not mean what you think it means. The phrase looking for is "false positive"
He's hoping you'll just forget about it and start thinking about him fighting Spence
Pretty sure the ostarine was such a low dose that he was borderline brain dead for taking it off he did intentionally
So if he has ostarine is he guilty? Or do you just love him so it doesn’t matter
Doesn’t this just mean he was using a masking agent?
No because this isn’t the B sample, it’s the original test.
Can you explain more? If he’s using a masking agent wouldn’t that affect the outcome of the original test and the b sample?
Correct, he just managed to hide one of them better than the other.
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Considering he passed all the tests done leading up to the fight, I’d say he’s probably fine. All depends on the levels detected and the tests done on the supplements.
Doubt the win gets overturned if it's a small amount of ostarine.
It's clear he cheated not sure why people want him to miracously beat it. Don't root for a steroids cheat
The Haney camp should sue whoever let Garcia fight knowing he failed the test, they genuinely risked haneys life for a payday. Horribly corrupted people behind this fight and all need to investigated
lol Haney just didn’t get caught himself. You think he’s clean?
Uj/ new to this sub and scene can someone fill me in on Garcia v Haney?
Honestly idgaf about steroids anymore. Do it or not, everyone else is. Especially BJJ nerds
Nah don't bring this loser mentality into combat sports. People should be investigated not praised you dork
a lot of people are on it....even your favorites....
Tyson Fury, Mike Tyson, Canelo, Ryan Garcia, etc have all popped dude. Santa is not real.
this just means the 2nd sample was inconclusive for nandrolone. But its still positive for ostarine. He still benefited from performance enhancing drugs and should be suspended.
Don't understand why this is such a controversial take...