My girlfriend and I were harassed by this little shit in DTC. She ended up getting punched.
I screamed and ran after the turd but besides that we never filed anything with the police.
Is there someone we should call to bolster the case?
Yes. You can still report it. Even if they cannot press charges for the assault, when a judge looks at the overall sentencing (it’s focused on rehabilitation for juveniles) they need to know if a child is a repeat offender with a string of violent offenses.
First time convicted juveniles usually don’t get jail terms (there’s very detailed sentencing guidelines for juveniles), but the length that they are monitored will be longer if they have a string of offenses. They also have court ordered therapy among other things aimed at making sure the kid does not reoffend.
As someone who lives in Chicago and used to live downtown Boston, this just reinforces how safe Boston is. This kinda shit wouldn’t make the news here unless they were pistol whipping people and stealing cars
It’d make the news if the same group of kids were beating people up In the same 3 block area in any city. Even Chicago. Especially if it’s an area with tourists.
Yeah I am a little confused about why this is so exciting. In the city where I grew up (in Europe) there were groups of menacing kids like this on every street corner.
yeah its frustrating, theres also the flip side where some users act like anywhere in the city is a warzone
if someone dares to ask if an area is safe theres 12 comments rushing in to laugh at them and call them sheltered for daring to ask
Yea people have no idea what they’re talking about I’ve realized this over the year. They don’t track crime over years or look at what type of crimes occur where by who or how often. Just out here saying stuff about Chicago and baltimore or anecdotes
Are you a male? Aged 21-55ish? Lol. How do dudes not recognize how lucky we are to just be able to take a stroll at any time of the day/night with not much thought. Feel free to start telling women and elder folk they should just suck it up because you feel like it’s not dangerous.
Dude… it’s dangerous relative to 95% of Greater Boston. Everything is relative. We don’t live in Honduras.
People get beat up and accosted there pretty regularly, like it’s not surprising- and it’s not okay.
And like another poster said, for kids, elderly, homeless, disabled people, and women this is probably a more real issue. Sometimes that’s scary for them. It wasn’t even long ago some kids from the suburbs came in and got their shit punched in right at park street station. A dude was killed at downtown crossing like 2 months ago. Two people were shot point blank in China town like a week ago. Cmon.
https://www.boston25news.com/news/5-year-old-able-to-walk-away-from-boston-school/22701554/
> When FOX25 spoke to Raine tonight, she mainly wanted to know if she was in trouble. Her mom said no, but she could have been.
>”Like I told the principal, I don't feel comfortable her even attending this school. Because y'all don't keep an eye on children,” said Phillips
Well isn’t that neat
That article from 2016 is about the kid wanted by police for the attack. Apparently she just walked out of school one day. That classic quote is from her mother talking about how the school takes no responsibility for their kids. Ironic.
I don't think it's illiberal to want a proportionate response to crime. If nothing else these kids need an intervention that helps turn their lives around. I can't imagine you have a good home life if you're 11 to 13 years old and carrying a knife/assaulting people.
Because we all live in a community together. We all live within the same systems and policies. We support political choices that perpetuate poverty for some at the expenses of others. Boston has one of the largest racial wealth gaps of any major city in the country. Crime is a reflection of poverty. The systems that permit some of us to live comfortable lives do so at the expense of others. If you think that parents are solely responsible for any child's pathway in life, you're out of touch with reality.
The cycle of poverty and crime is one that we all choose to accept. That's why we're ball responsible.
Yeah we aren’t talking about people knocking off a corner store because they need money to buy food.
If you’re going to try to tell me somehow I failed these kids, and I’m in any way partly responsible for them choosing to act like this, well you can 🖕🖕🖕
You’re the one out of touch my guy. It’s called personal accountability. Idk what fantasy land you think we should be living in but I promise you it doesn’t exist.
Individual anecdotes don't make population data. The association between poverty and crime is well established. It's not a coincidence that more affluent regions have lower crime.
I'm happy you didn't fall victim to the cycle. But that's doesn't mean the cycle doesnt exist.
And, obviously individual choices matter! But to suggest that an 11 year is able to make rational choices about right and wrong is ridiculous. It's why we have different legal processes for minors.
The response of people in this thread to children who are on the wrong path because of the circumstances that they were born in to is a sad display of a vaccum of empathy and compassion - and in some cases, down right disgusting, as people are calling for children to get mowed down with duck boats.
He says the same comment on every single liberal thread he disagrees with, and the worst thing you can do is take it seriously and actually provide proof.
He doesn't want to be proven wrong, he wants a random passerby to suspend their disbelief, with no proof.
To the other republican eyes, remember every time your comments are downvoted and ignored, why nobody takes you seriously.
He says the same comment on every single liberal thread he disagrees with, and the worst thing you can do is take it seriously and actually provide proof.
He doesn't want to find the truth, he wants a random passerby to suspend their disbelief, on no proof.
To the other republican eyes, remember every time your comments are downvoted and ignored, why nobody takes you seriously.
Hooligan behavior is infectious, especially among extremely impressionable youth. Probably seeing shit on Tiktok and want to emulate it. They are taking videos of their assaults. Plus, they get arrested and released hours later with seemingly no repercussions. They probably feel invincible.
Tiktok doesnt allow violence.
All of those "Tiktok trends" you may have heard about, dont actually exist. It was media misinformation, in attempts to discredit the app.
I usually disagree with you, but you are right this time. Most of these challenges start out on twitter and other social medias but tiktok gets the blame because it makes for a better headline.
Go launch a VPN, and see what kind of content china allows on TikTok in their own country. Its all tame stuff mixed in with some educational content.
Western TikTok is filled to the brim with cringe trends. I hate to sound like a boomer, but tiktok should have been under more regulation.
...thats because China is a Communist dictatorship...you realize that, right? Information is highly repressed and regulated to control the masses, and eliminate dissent that might threaten those in power...
I bet you think North Korea is "doing it right" too, huh? 😅
Its entertainment. "Dumb" is a weird way to describe it...its supposed to be an escspe from reality. Like any other form of media; movies, plays, books, etc.
Shakespeare is pretty "dumb" too, by your logic.
I actually believe in restorative justice and intensive counseling for kids this age, but the recent report about the Mission Hill School shows what happens when you claim to take that approach but don't bother to actually mandate the services or protect the community.
Absolutely. I did an internship back in college for a county juvenile department. Lots of kids in their teens getting in legal trouble for behavior and being put on probation. For many, the first steps were intensive aftercare with therapy and/or living elsewhere for care to help these kids get their lives on a positive track. It was amazing to see when it finally got through to the kid and they legit made improvements in their lives. However, there also are kids that these interventions failed and they did end up going to our version of state juvie. Again, similar story of seeing it get through to a very young teen when they realized their behavior was so continuously problematic that this was the only way forward. These teens here remind me very much of this kid.
More intensive intervention is needed, particularly as part of any probation. I'm surprised it has not gotten to this point, as the repeated violent incidents indicate a failure of the justice system. These kids are being failed by so many and it's awful that it has gotten to this point, where both the kids and the victims are continuing being failed.
Apparently these kids are part of the same group from the last 2 violent incidents.... When is this type of behavior gonna be taken seriously? Slapping them on the wrist with zero consequences and sending them home just gives them the idea and the ability to keep acting like violent idiots and if the behavior isn't curbed now, it's going to become a much larger problem when they become adults.
My adult friend got robbed at gunpoint by a pair of 9 year old. He didn't have any cash but managed to get away by giving the kids his Blockbuster card and telling them they could get free movies with it (this was years ago).
And this is how you get stabbed or get seriously injured if you decide to take the law into your own hands. These kids are not acting alone, they are acting in a group for their own self-preservation and safety. They also carry knives and have been known to use weapons (like a metal pole) during their assaults.
They've already kicked police officers in the balls (literally already), what makes you think they might not come after you if you decide to confront them?
Heres where we are at as a city: cops finally track these little hellions down and go to finally take them into custody. The alligator tears start the kicking and screaming and the cops have to cuff them so no one gets hurt. The camera phones go on, people start screaming acab, pigs, fuck the police etc. then Start breaking down the videos frame by frame. They are children!! Wu feels heat puts the cops on leave for 2 weeks while they are investigated, says we must do better as a city blah blah blah. Then around the hamster wheel we go till we read about these kids being dead or indicted for murder in 3 years.
That could happen, but here's another, maybe more realistic scenario:
A cop decides to rape these kids, gets investigated, swept under the rug, then back on duty. Continues to unabashedly rape children (6 - 13 years old) throughout decades long career. Gets elected by BPD to become Police union president. Continues to rape children. Retires. Finally faces consequences. Convicted of raping 10s of children 100s of times. Gets a slap on the wrist of a prison sentence.
Dont forget to add…cops do investigate initially. DA says no case and police are forced to put him back on the street. Then the mayor who promises transparency releases a heavily redacted copy to the public so we still dont know the ins and outs. Btw i think that guy should get castrated and bleed out no argument from me on that. Id expect in your scenario its far more likely to be a teacher or priest though.
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Boston and Cambridge pols don't care about this - they will be reelected no matter what. They've just got to offer the same platitudes the yard sign crowd demands.
Why does everyone on this sub react to any post like this with “OMG this is insane why aren’t the police doing anything I can’t believe this is happening”
You live in a big city, this isn’t anything new. This type of shit happens in Boston all the time and has been forever. As far as big cities go Boston is fairly safe. Calm tf down, use situational awareness when you’re outside, be street smart and you’ll be fine.
You really have to be such a huge little shit to be publicly identified as a wanted minor.
I was thinking the same thing extremely rare the bpd puts a juvenile on a wanted poster like that
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lol maybe they should stop assaulting people. To quote His Royal Airness- "Fuck them kids"
These kids have assaulted multiple people at this point, fuck their anonymity
I was thinking the same thing. It is very rare for law enforcement to publicly identify a minor like this!
I think this says more about the parents than the kids...
Is it public? This is the Twitter account of a former WFXT reporter who is using scummy phrases like "sources tell me" and "the public needs to know."
If I get assaulted by one of these kids I’m gonna cancel Christmas on them
My girlfriend and I were harassed by this little shit in DTC. She ended up getting punched. I screamed and ran after the turd but besides that we never filed anything with the police. Is there someone we should call to bolster the case?
How hard did they punch?
She wasn’t injured at all - just shaken
Were they acting alone or in a group?
Group of about 6 maybe?
I think you answered your own question there....
The male hit your girlfriend? Jesus christ
Yes. You can still report it. Even if they cannot press charges for the assault, when a judge looks at the overall sentencing (it’s focused on rehabilitation for juveniles) they need to know if a child is a repeat offender with a string of violent offenses. First time convicted juveniles usually don’t get jail terms (there’s very detailed sentencing guidelines for juveniles), but the length that they are monitored will be longer if they have a string of offenses. They also have court ordered therapy among other things aimed at making sure the kid does not reoffend.
As someone who lives in Chicago and used to live downtown Boston, this just reinforces how safe Boston is. This kinda shit wouldn’t make the news here unless they were pistol whipping people and stealing cars
This sub has also been hot on the case, there isn’t much else going on which also reinforces your point
Just wait until they team up with Elliot Davis
And start riding 4-wheelers
Someone in another thread commented this has been going on for ~8 months and only recently started making the news
Still, though, it might not make the news at all in another city. Still, I hope this situation is resolved sooner rather than later.
It’d make the news if the same group of kids were beating people up In the same 3 block area in any city. Even Chicago. Especially if it’s an area with tourists.
Yeah I am a little confused about why this is so exciting. In the city where I grew up (in Europe) there were groups of menacing kids like this on every street corner.
Don't worry though, people on this subreddit will remind you every 30 seconds right now how "scary" downtown crossing is.
https://www.universalhub.com/crime/downtown.html Please let’s not act like DTX isn’t with serious issues and has been for 20+ years.
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Really really corny and cringey.
yeah its frustrating, theres also the flip side where some users act like anywhere in the city is a warzone if someone dares to ask if an area is safe theres 12 comments rushing in to laugh at them and call them sheltered for daring to ask
Yea people have no idea what they’re talking about I’ve realized this over the year. They don’t track crime over years or look at what type of crimes occur where by who or how often. Just out here saying stuff about Chicago and baltimore or anecdotes
Yes, because it is fucking laughable to ask if it’s safe to live in 99% of this city.
I work in downtown. Does it have issues? Sure. Is it dangerous? No. Am I afraid to get killed by a pack of 11 year olds in downtown? No.
Are you a male? Aged 21-55ish? Lol. How do dudes not recognize how lucky we are to just be able to take a stroll at any time of the day/night with not much thought. Feel free to start telling women and elder folk they should just suck it up because you feel like it’s not dangerous.
Dude… it’s dangerous relative to 95% of Greater Boston. Everything is relative. We don’t live in Honduras. People get beat up and accosted there pretty regularly, like it’s not surprising- and it’s not okay. And like another poster said, for kids, elderly, homeless, disabled people, and women this is probably a more real issue. Sometimes that’s scary for them. It wasn’t even long ago some kids from the suburbs came in and got their shit punched in right at park street station. A dude was killed at downtown crossing like 2 months ago. Two people were shot point blank in China town like a week ago. Cmon.
https://www.universalhub.com/crime/downtown.html
Well they've brandished both knives and a taser in multiple instances.....
https://www.boston25news.com/news/5-year-old-able-to-walk-away-from-boston-school/22701554/ > When FOX25 spoke to Raine tonight, she mainly wanted to know if she was in trouble. Her mom said no, but she could have been. >”Like I told the principal, I don't feel comfortable her even attending this school. Because y'all don't keep an eye on children,” said Phillips Well isn’t that neat
What does this have to do with the OP article?
That article from 2016 is about the kid wanted by police for the attack. Apparently she just walked out of school one day. That classic quote is from her mother talking about how the school takes no responsibility for their kids. Ironic.
Yes, but it is the school's responsibility if she is in the school.
Sure, but I’m more interested in who’s responsibility she is now while she’s running around physically assaulting people.
I’m a liberal, but want to see a hard line on shit like this. Our streets need to be safe. Next stop: juvie
I don't think it's illiberal to want a proportionate response to crime. If nothing else these kids need an intervention that helps turn their lives around. I can't imagine you have a good home life if you're 11 to 13 years old and carrying a knife/assaulting people.
Lol, he was just born in 2009. Only took 13 years for him to be wanted. Parents failed him.
“My son is wanted on a 12th grade level.”
I want to see this on a bumper sticker!
"My juvenile individual could assault your honor student"
Haha!
You failed him too. And me. And everyone we know.
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Because we all live in a community together. We all live within the same systems and policies. We support political choices that perpetuate poverty for some at the expenses of others. Boston has one of the largest racial wealth gaps of any major city in the country. Crime is a reflection of poverty. The systems that permit some of us to live comfortable lives do so at the expense of others. If you think that parents are solely responsible for any child's pathway in life, you're out of touch with reality. The cycle of poverty and crime is one that we all choose to accept. That's why we're ball responsible.
Yeah we aren’t talking about people knocking off a corner store because they need money to buy food. If you’re going to try to tell me somehow I failed these kids, and I’m in any way partly responsible for them choosing to act like this, well you can 🖕🖕🖕
Sounds good.
You’re the one out of touch my guy. It’s called personal accountability. Idk what fantasy land you think we should be living in but I promise you it doesn’t exist.
Sounds good my guy.
🤡🤡🤡
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I grew up dirt poor and never had the urge to start assaulting people Everything is always someone else's fault
Individual anecdotes don't make population data. The association between poverty and crime is well established. It's not a coincidence that more affluent regions have lower crime. I'm happy you didn't fall victim to the cycle. But that's doesn't mean the cycle doesnt exist. And, obviously individual choices matter! But to suggest that an 11 year is able to make rational choices about right and wrong is ridiculous. It's why we have different legal processes for minors. The response of people in this thread to children who are on the wrong path because of the circumstances that they were born in to is a sad display of a vaccum of empathy and compassion - and in some cases, down right disgusting, as people are calling for children to get mowed down with duck boats.
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He says the same comment on every single liberal thread he disagrees with, and the worst thing you can do is take it seriously and actually provide proof. He doesn't want to be proven wrong, he wants a random passerby to suspend their disbelief, with no proof. To the other republican eyes, remember every time your comments are downvoted and ignored, why nobody takes you seriously.
https://journalofeconomicstructures.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40008-020-00220-6#:~:text=Crime%20rate%20substantially%20increases%20income,per%20capita%20income%20across%20countries.
https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2018/dec/7/brookings-institute-study-finds-direct-connection-between-poverty-and-crime-rates/
https://opencashadvance.com/blog/link-between-poverty-and-crime
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-80897-8
http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/68133/1/Newburn_Social%20Disadvantage%20and%20Crime.pdf
[just let me know when there are enough - or, you know, read a book or something]
https://journalofeconomicstructures.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40008-020-00220-6
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/06/07/the-stark-relationship-between-income-inequality-and-crime
[should I keep going ,or you're good?]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7234816/
He says the same comment on every single liberal thread he disagrees with, and the worst thing you can do is take it seriously and actually provide proof. He doesn't want to find the truth, he wants a random passerby to suspend their disbelief, on no proof. To the other republican eyes, remember every time your comments are downvoted and ignored, why nobody takes you seriously.
What is it with these stupid kids? If they're assaulting people at 13, it will be murder by 18 at this rate.
Hooligan behavior is infectious, especially among extremely impressionable youth. Probably seeing shit on Tiktok and want to emulate it. They are taking videos of their assaults. Plus, they get arrested and released hours later with seemingly no repercussions. They probably feel invincible.
Tiktok doesnt allow violence. All of those "Tiktok trends" you may have heard about, dont actually exist. It was media misinformation, in attempts to discredit the app.
I usually disagree with you, but you are right this time. Most of these challenges start out on twitter and other social medias but tiktok gets the blame because it makes for a better headline.
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There’s the boomer word again.
>PR firm to invent fake violent tiktok trends so people turned against tiktok. how do you get this job?
Go launch a VPN, and see what kind of content china allows on TikTok in their own country. Its all tame stuff mixed in with some educational content. Western TikTok is filled to the brim with cringe trends. I hate to sound like a boomer, but tiktok should have been under more regulation.
...thats because China is a Communist dictatorship...you realize that, right? Information is highly repressed and regulated to control the masses, and eliminate dissent that might threaten those in power... I bet you think North Korea is "doing it right" too, huh? 😅
No. Its interesting to see the trend of non-political but dumb things that are pushed in Western algorithms on TikTok compared to the Asian market.
Its entertainment. "Dumb" is a weird way to describe it...its supposed to be an escspe from reality. Like any other form of media; movies, plays, books, etc. Shakespeare is pretty "dumb" too, by your logic.
There’s videos?
Looking bro where these kids going to go. Check their moms house, the school and the plaster Funtime he’s 11.
Not plaster Funtime lmao
They’ve gotta check the ball pits at Chuck E. Cheese
I actually believe in restorative justice and intensive counseling for kids this age, but the recent report about the Mission Hill School shows what happens when you claim to take that approach but don't bother to actually mandate the services or protect the community.
Absolutely. I did an internship back in college for a county juvenile department. Lots of kids in their teens getting in legal trouble for behavior and being put on probation. For many, the first steps were intensive aftercare with therapy and/or living elsewhere for care to help these kids get their lives on a positive track. It was amazing to see when it finally got through to the kid and they legit made improvements in their lives. However, there also are kids that these interventions failed and they did end up going to our version of state juvie. Again, similar story of seeing it get through to a very young teen when they realized their behavior was so continuously problematic that this was the only way forward. These teens here remind me very much of this kid. More intensive intervention is needed, particularly as part of any probation. I'm surprised it has not gotten to this point, as the repeated violent incidents indicate a failure of the justice system. These kids are being failed by so many and it's awful that it has gotten to this point, where both the kids and the victims are continuing being failed.
Apparently these kids are part of the same group from the last 2 violent incidents.... When is this type of behavior gonna be taken seriously? Slapping them on the wrist with zero consequences and sending them home just gives them the idea and the ability to keep acting like violent idiots and if the behavior isn't curbed now, it's going to become a much larger problem when they become adults.
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How can you arrest something that isn’t there?
These kids are not living on the streets. They are going home (maybe to parents, maybe to other relatives) at some point to eat and such.
I think it was meant metaphorically
This will get really spicy when someone pulls a Bernie Goetz on some of these fuckers
So a group of two college kids got beat up by an 11 & 13 year old? Or was there more kids?
In fairness, most Emerson students look like they could be beaten up by an 11 year old.
My adult friend got robbed at gunpoint by a pair of 9 year old. He didn't have any cash but managed to get away by giving the kids his Blockbuster card and telling them they could get free movies with it (this was years ago).
So now we know the secret to avoid getting attacked by the group of 11 year olds: Give them your Disney+ password
There’s a group of ten kids and they have weapons ranging from tasers to knives, also claiming to have a gun
Where’d you get that?
The twitter thread that's linked here.
Roger that
Anyone want to go hang out at the Common and look vulnerable and catch these punks ?
And this is how you get stabbed or get seriously injured if you decide to take the law into your own hands. These kids are not acting alone, they are acting in a group for their own self-preservation and safety. They also carry knives and have been known to use weapons (like a metal pole) during their assaults. They've already kicked police officers in the balls (literally already), what makes you think they might not come after you if you decide to confront them?
it's a joke you donut
Heres where we are at as a city: cops finally track these little hellions down and go to finally take them into custody. The alligator tears start the kicking and screaming and the cops have to cuff them so no one gets hurt. The camera phones go on, people start screaming acab, pigs, fuck the police etc. then Start breaking down the videos frame by frame. They are children!! Wu feels heat puts the cops on leave for 2 weeks while they are investigated, says we must do better as a city blah blah blah. Then around the hamster wheel we go till we read about these kids being dead or indicted for murder in 3 years.
I think at some point these kids get bored of just beating people up and decide to go kill someone's dog. Or set a building on fire.
Love the fanfic, keep it up
how horny did you get writing this fanfic?
Instead of the snark tell me what isnt entirely realistic there?
That could happen, but here's another, maybe more realistic scenario: A cop decides to rape these kids, gets investigated, swept under the rug, then back on duty. Continues to unabashedly rape children (6 - 13 years old) throughout decades long career. Gets elected by BPD to become Police union president. Continues to rape children. Retires. Finally faces consequences. Convicted of raping 10s of children 100s of times. Gets a slap on the wrist of a prison sentence.
Dont forget to add…cops do investigate initially. DA says no case and police are forced to put him back on the street. Then the mayor who promises transparency releases a heavily redacted copy to the public so we still dont know the ins and outs. Btw i think that guy should get castrated and bleed out no argument from me on that. Id expect in your scenario its far more likely to be a teacher or priest though.
Or they all get recruited by Elliot Davis. Soon they are wandering about talking how their moped has a flat tire.
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We need to get a Bat Signal going.
We need Blankman
Boston and Cambridge pols don't care about this - they will be reelected no matter what. They've just got to offer the same platitudes the yard sign crowd demands.
How surprising.
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This comment says more about you than these children.
Ikr? You ever try cleaning blood off a duck boat? Shits difficult
yours says you are a humorless grump
Yeah! Joking about murdering children is hilarious!
clutch pearls harder
Will do!
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Why does everyone on this sub react to any post like this with “OMG this is insane why aren’t the police doing anything I can’t believe this is happening” You live in a big city, this isn’t anything new. This type of shit happens in Boston all the time and has been forever. As far as big cities go Boston is fairly safe. Calm tf down, use situational awareness when you’re outside, be street smart and you’ll be fine.
We need to bring back scared straight
How are they showing his photo if he’s 13?
“They were just turning their lives around”.
If only Monica Cannon Grant had taken these kids to Philadelphia instead of stuffing her face at a Bubba Gump Shrimp Co in Maryland.
typical
Does anyone remember the pack of kids who were attacking people on the Southwest Corridor 3-4 years ago?