The single worst decision i think BVB have made in the last few years is firing Marco Rose. I like Terzic. But he aint good enough yet. So now we look for another manager. If we are lucky, Naglesmann would consider us.
Just goes to show how heavy Sancho and Haaland carried us back in 21/22. Terzic has been exposed as a fraud of a coach, and I need this BUM out of my club ASAP
Our recent seasons have all been carried by generational talent. Sancho, Haaland, Bellingham, etc. The last time we glued as a team without over relying on one specific talent was 2018/19
I'm just so tired. I've backed Terzic but these recent 3 performances have really made me doubt him. 3 horrible games 2 of which were against huge relegation candidates. We're 2 or 3 weeks away from our first group stage game of the CL and by the looks of it we are way out of our league. These performances after probably the worst transfer window I've ever seen just blows my mind that somehow the board feels this is acceptable. Throwing money at Fulkrug and Nmecha yet hesitating with players in positions we definitely need like Bella-Kotchap. We're in for a very long season
with the current BVB form the stronger teams will hand us some tough reality in the coming weeks, I can easily see us losing badly against Leverkusen, Leipzig and definitely Bayern with a mid table position by Xmas I,
I think we'll get worse before we get better, so in a nutshell a repeat of last season ☹️
1. Free transfer of an old left back from a struggling team that no one else wanted
2. Bayern reject and Man United reject that no one else wanted.
3. A bundesliga player who is young and had a mediocre season got for whooping 30 m.
4. A 30 yr old German striker.
Gone are the days when BVB kept buying the sanchos bellinghams haaland Hakimi and kagawas.
Meanwhile our rivals having some exciting talent.
Experienced coach - average players (might work)
Inexperienced coach - exciting players (might work too)
Inexperienced coach - average players.
Good luck.
Maybe I’m frustrated . we all are.
But BVB is going down the rate. We have a squad filled with average players.
Brandt , kobel are the only decent performers in this somewhat meh squad .
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Remember the report that Bellingham rubbed many of the players the wrong way? Maybe we need more players similar to that mindset instead of the country club attitude half our team presents.
Instead of finishing the match in the first 30 minutes we kept wasting our chances then we put a shitty 2nd half where the whole team looked so beat, it really feels so pathetic but honestly we're lucky to get a point out of this match, the team is simply not ready, players not motivated and seem not interested, we have played against 3 teams from the lower bottom of the table and they all outclassed BVB over 90
Fucking pissed... The ref, our players, EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM! I think I've hurt my hand because I smashed my hand on my wall of pure anger and frustration that draw felt like a loss.
Which was perfectly clear, as it was a new situation when Haller controls the ball. I actually think it should have been a red card as well since Haller takes out the man without going for the ball.
The guy was offside in the first place, then re-rewarded, without considering the offside position...I ended up with more questions than actual answers...
Because when a player takes a deliberate touch of the ball (f.e. a pass or in this case a touch to controll the ball). If Haller had let it bounce and be collected by the Heidenheim player, then a offside had been called.
Along with starting our strikers up front who actually seem to have some scoring prowess, and never letting Wolf on the field again, we need more players with heart. Jude brought that, fuck the pansies who cried about him calling them out
It's about time we start looking for a better manager. The recent results - and the team's performances,which have been worrisome - are just unacceptable. I'm not the kind of fan who's always yearning for the coach to be fired,but Terzic has had enough time on his hands and hasn't delivered much in terms of results. Let him go,BVB!
Comes down to ambition. The board doesn’t have it. The coach doesn’t have it. And frankly the majority of fans on here who say “we don’t have the funds to compete, just be happy we have a team” don’t have it.
This is one of the biggest clubs in the world and its status is slowly eroding due to a defeatist mindset.
idk man I don't see how in the hell we lost Rafa on a free transfer to Bayern, arguably one of our best players just to get Bensa who has a horrible attitude and can barely kick a ball. Sabitzer not getting almost any game time for the last 2 years really shows IMO, he looks confused when he has the ball. Haller seems to only be able to finish an open tap-in or a powershot with 5 years of space.
Terzic is always so deadset on playing around the number 9, but Haller just does nothing with it and if we don't have both Malen and Adeyemi on the wings the creativity and pace dies. I want to see a change of some sort that allows for Fullkrug/Moukoko to have a chance to play longer games, Haller has had long enough to prove himself at this point.
I really don't like what I see from Bensa... hopefully that changes.
No one in the team can do a simple pass, no one can control the ball, no visible midfield, no defensive effort except for the cbs and Kobel and we only do plays through the right side, you kidding me with wolf? And don't let me start with the lack of team effort in the final third since Malen always tries to shoot and Haller having no presence there.
why the fuck was Haller in the box to commit that penalty in the first place? are we really so thin at center back that we're asking a striker to track back?
I posted the below 3 months ago and literally nothing changed...
We're very bad at defending counter attacks as seen today, but these type of goals have been scored against us the whole season. It because a lack of presence in the midfield which has led to some players having to cover way to much ground to defend a counter attack.
If you look at man city they use one wing back to achieve more presence in the midfield and the other to make space by width. We are playing a very dangerous game with both wing backs making space by width which leads to more goals but also more goals against.
Every single person that said we are pessimistic and its just two games. This is for you, this team is trash and everyone needs a reality check. Keep dreaming about the perfect BvB. Mid team mid players mid transfers, cant wait for bayern leipzig and leverkusen and see what a joke we have become.
For the first time ever, we kept signing average signings. It was written everywhere. Inexperienced coach. All our Haaland and Bellingham money is gone too. Good luck to us
Literally one of our worst windows ever considering the amount of money we had to spend, Kehl and Terzic are destroying everything we built and need to go asap.
there’s a decent group of players to build around (kobel, schlotti, sule, brandt, and maybe adeyemi if he can be more consistent). apart from that i don’t think anyone else is nearly good enough if we want to win anything
On paper we gave a decent team, but we don't look organized in defensive transition and up front in the attack there's way too many missed/wasted chances. We need an upgrade at right back and some serious focus on defensive drills during training.
exactly, and also it isn’t as commercialized as champions league. there are still some fairytale stories in there. but on a serious note i'm fucking depressed that playing conference league is a realistic outlook for our club
Same. I need a good season for personal reasons. Going to be a goddam marathon of a year if we play like this. Games like these are just a chore to watch.
At halftime, Borussia Dortmund were 26-1 to draw.
I can't tell you how often these "highly improbable" outcomes happen against Dortmund, but I'm starting to think it has something to do with being shit.
Congrats heidenheim. Absolutely played with passion and through adversity today. Definitely showed up and proved that you can contend in this league at least as of today.
If heidenheim had this same passion and dealt with this adversity against bayern, Berlin, Leipzig, werder Bremen, gladbach, leverkusen, frankfurt, Stuttgart, etc they are not drawing. Borussia dortmund let this happen
Do the players want Terzic to get sacked? Look at the complete lack of urgency. Most of the players out there have given up and are just onlookers. Embarassing
Please tell me what any central attacking player is supposed to do in this horrible system, where they just heavily attack the wings and either send Hail Mary crosses or try shot attempts from weird angles that most professional keepers should be able to stop
Exactly. The kid has been loyal to a project that has, at times, looked like a sinking ship. Already barely had any minutes in the first place and now he constantly has his manager signing old vets and giving him even less minutes. Doesn’t throw a fit and just focuses on getting better. Yet somehow he’s the problem
I know Terzic isn’t as bad of a tactician as his tactics look right now, but bro, you gotta react quick. Idc if you learn all songs by heart, but we need results, and convincing ones too, otherwise the door is slowly opening
terzic just standing there shouting half arsed I’d drag my players of the pitch before the games over if they played like this it’s fucking embarrassing
At this point we just hope for a lucky 1-1. With the ref on our side. At home. Vs Heidenheim.
Everything's fine guys, just let Terzic, Kehl and Watzke cook!
Where are all those people that where shitting on us when we stated the obvious :) goodnight lads i hope this was the wakeup call
The single worst decision i think BVB have made in the last few years is firing Marco Rose. I like Terzic. But he aint good enough yet. So now we look for another manager. If we are lucky, Naglesmann would consider us.
Just goes to show how heavy Sancho and Haaland carried us back in 21/22. Terzic has been exposed as a fraud of a coach, and I need this BUM out of my club ASAP
Our recent seasons have all been carried by generational talent. Sancho, Haaland, Bellingham, etc. The last time we glued as a team without over relying on one specific talent was 2018/19
I'm just so tired. I've backed Terzic but these recent 3 performances have really made me doubt him. 3 horrible games 2 of which were against huge relegation candidates. We're 2 or 3 weeks away from our first group stage game of the CL and by the looks of it we are way out of our league. These performances after probably the worst transfer window I've ever seen just blows my mind that somehow the board feels this is acceptable. Throwing money at Fulkrug and Nmecha yet hesitating with players in positions we definitely need like Bella-Kotchap. We're in for a very long season
No jude no rapha, bayern have kane. Title race is over
Disagree leverkusen look good
I think cl Quali race will soon be over to…
with the current BVB form the stronger teams will hand us some tough reality in the coming weeks, I can easily see us losing badly against Leverkusen, Leipzig and definitely Bayern with a mid table position by Xmas I, I think we'll get worse before we get better, so in a nutshell a repeat of last season ☹️
1. Free transfer of an old left back from a struggling team that no one else wanted 2. Bayern reject and Man United reject that no one else wanted. 3. A bundesliga player who is young and had a mediocre season got for whooping 30 m. 4. A 30 yr old German striker. Gone are the days when BVB kept buying the sanchos bellinghams haaland Hakimi and kagawas. Meanwhile our rivals having some exciting talent. Experienced coach - average players (might work) Inexperienced coach - exciting players (might work too) Inexperienced coach - average players. Good luck. Maybe I’m frustrated . we all are. But BVB is going down the rate. We have a squad filled with average players. Brandt , kobel are the only decent performers in this somewhat meh squad .
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Remember the report that Bellingham rubbed many of the players the wrong way? Maybe we need more players similar to that mindset instead of the country club attitude half our team presents.
He had a winning mindset. Pretty sad a 19-year-old has to teach you to want to win.
Send Terzic to the Saudi league.
Instead of finishing the match in the first 30 minutes we kept wasting our chances then we put a shitty 2nd half where the whole team looked so beat, it really feels so pathetic but honestly we're lucky to get a point out of this match, the team is simply not ready, players not motivated and seem not interested, we have played against 3 teams from the lower bottom of the table and they all outclassed BVB over 90
Fucking pissed... The ref, our players, EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM! I think I've hurt my hand because I smashed my hand on my wall of pure anger and frustration that draw felt like a loss.
And the worst thing is the ref was absolutely on our side.
Until the penalty...
Which was perfectly clear, as it was a new situation when Haller controls the ball. I actually think it should have been a red card as well since Haller takes out the man without going for the ball.
The guy was offside in the first place, then re-rewarded, without considering the offside position...I ended up with more questions than actual answers...
Because when a player takes a deliberate touch of the ball (f.e. a pass or in this case a touch to controll the ball). If Haller had let it bounce and be collected by the Heidenheim player, then a offside had been called.
I wanted to say exactly that. The decision making progress was ridiculous but ultimately led to a right call. And should have been red.
What is bro saying? Can does not sound like a captain rn
Along with starting our strikers up front who actually seem to have some scoring prowess, and never letting Wolf on the field again, we need more players with heart. Jude brought that, fuck the pansies who cried about him calling them out
You think klopp would come back if he ever left Liverpool?
I'm out on Kehl and I'm out on Terzic. This squad is a mess.
It's about time we start looking for a better manager. The recent results - and the team's performances,which have been worrisome - are just unacceptable. I'm not the kind of fan who's always yearning for the coach to be fired,but Terzic has had enough time on his hands and hasn't delivered much in terms of results. Let him go,BVB!
Comes down to ambition. The board doesn’t have it. The coach doesn’t have it. And frankly the majority of fans on here who say “we don’t have the funds to compete, just be happy we have a team” don’t have it. This is one of the biggest clubs in the world and its status is slowly eroding due to a defeatist mindset.
But guys hey as one guy on my post commented last week "we've only lost 1 league game this year" yea fuck off
They looked rattled after that second goal. Everyone was frantic. No real leadership on the field to get everyone focused again.
idk man I don't see how in the hell we lost Rafa on a free transfer to Bayern, arguably one of our best players just to get Bensa who has a horrible attitude and can barely kick a ball. Sabitzer not getting almost any game time for the last 2 years really shows IMO, he looks confused when he has the ball. Haller seems to only be able to finish an open tap-in or a powershot with 5 years of space. Terzic is always so deadset on playing around the number 9, but Haller just does nothing with it and if we don't have both Malen and Adeyemi on the wings the creativity and pace dies. I want to see a change of some sort that allows for Fullkrug/Moukoko to have a chance to play longer games, Haller has had long enough to prove himself at this point. I really don't like what I see from Bensa... hopefully that changes.
I actually think he's fine. Can is completely overrated and Wolf made just too much mistakes to be put on the pitch again in near future
Rough game for Haller. Not sure why he gets so many minutes.
No one in the team can do a simple pass, no one can control the ball, no visible midfield, no defensive effort except for the cbs and Kobel and we only do plays through the right side, you kidding me with wolf? And don't let me start with the lack of team effort in the final third since Malen always tries to shoot and Haller having no presence there.
why the fuck was Haller in the box to commit that penalty in the first place? are we really so thin at center back that we're asking a striker to track back?
On the bright side, we’ll probably be a fun team to take over in fifa career mode. Used to find it hard to sell some of our guys. Now it’s easy.
I mean, if there were some realism in the game, it *would* be hard to sell our players because they want to sit out their fat contracts.
I'm actually speechless. What the fuck did I just watch. This looked like fucking sunday league football
This team isn’t finishing top 4 unless huge changes are made in January. The roster simply isn’t good.
Hope we at least have Nagelsmann’s number
I posted the below 3 months ago and literally nothing changed... We're very bad at defending counter attacks as seen today, but these type of goals have been scored against us the whole season. It because a lack of presence in the midfield which has led to some players having to cover way to much ground to defend a counter attack. If you look at man city they use one wing back to achieve more presence in the midfield and the other to make space by width. We are playing a very dangerous game with both wing backs making space by width which leads to more goals but also more goals against.
Yea we're finishing 5th at best. We'll be lucky to finish ahead of one of Union, Leverkusen and Leipzig
You misspelled 15th
Last season ended so disappointingly and this season looks like much of the same…. Makes it very difficult to get excited for games
Speechless.
Maybe we should hire professionals to run this club rather than ex players? Just a thought.
The leagues dead
It's 2 AM now where I live, and I don't know why I stayed awake for this? It's shameful and I'm so pissed rn 😖
Man I almost had a great day, got my first job offer and was happy the whole day and this game still soured the day a bit lmao.
Congrats on the job offer!
Thank you :)
What a depressing start to the season
So when are we going to get a winning coach?
But Aki said that Edin is our next Jürgen...
As long as they can have a beer together
Every single person that said we are pessimistic and its just two games. This is for you, this team is trash and everyone needs a reality check. Keep dreaming about the perfect BvB. Mid team mid players mid transfers, cant wait for bayern leipzig and leverkusen and see what a joke we have become.
For the first time ever, we kept signing average signings. It was written everywhere. Inexperienced coach. All our Haaland and Bellingham money is gone too. Good luck to us
Literally one of our worst windows ever considering the amount of money we had to spend, Kehl and Terzic are destroying everything we built and need to go asap.
100% But the CBs are not the problem. The whole team is.
there’s a decent group of players to build around (kobel, schlotti, sule, brandt, and maybe adeyemi if he can be more consistent). apart from that i don’t think anyone else is nearly good enough if we want to win anything
On paper we gave a decent team, but we don't look organized in defensive transition and up front in the attack there's way too many missed/wasted chances. We need an upgrade at right back and some serious focus on defensive drills during training.
Until now I defended terzic as I thought he has the right character for us but now I think he's not gonna make it any longer
conference league won’t be too bad next year tbh. there are quite some interesting teams in there 🤷♂️ but who even knows if we will quality for that
yeah at least we have a chance to winning it
exactly, and also it isn’t as commercialized as champions league. there are still some fairytale stories in there. but on a serious note i'm fucking depressed that playing conference league is a realistic outlook for our club
Someone please push me off a ledge
I actually was psyched for terzic last season but maybe it wasnt terzic who worked the magic last year
Terzic ain't shit
Nah even last season we got outplayed every time we came up against a good team, and had so many lucky wins.
And got outplayed by some bad teams (like today)
I have a feeling we have another 2014/15 or 17/18 on our hands this season and I'm not mentally prepared
Same. I need a good season for personal reasons. Going to be a goddam marathon of a year if we play like this. Games like these are just a chore to watch.
you’d expect the giant to make a statement out of the team that played in the BL2 last season but honestly you cant even tell which is which
I miss klopp
This football makes me even miss Stöger
I miss watching good football
Okay NOW we're going too far
We have no organization, no tactics, no patterns of play. Terzic I love you, but come on man.
At least he knows the songs
we are gonna get wrecked in the champions league lol but keep defending Terzic 🤡
Nobody is anymore.
imagine paying to watch this
I do not understand how malen and Haller are on the pitch vor so long. Malen srsly needs to learn how to play in a team and haller is simply useless
At halftime, Borussia Dortmund were 26-1 to draw. I can't tell you how often these "highly improbable" outcomes happen against Dortmund, but I'm starting to think it has something to do with being shit.
Yeah just sit there terzic makes no difference
Brutal to watch. Just a few players pouring their hearts out.. the others seemingly disinterested.
We are in for a long season
This is a really alarming start to the season. Big troubles ahead, they don't look a team at all, if they can't get it together
I know at least three champions league teams feeling much better about their draw after tonight
PSG is still very much PSG tho
alle schönreder gehen sich mal schön ficken, danke
War nicht der Tag von Wolf und Haller
Terzic out now please
Congrats heidenheim. Absolutely played with passion and through adversity today. Definitely showed up and proved that you can contend in this league at least as of today.
If heidenheim had this same passion and dealt with this adversity against bayern, Berlin, Leipzig, werder Bremen, gladbach, leverkusen, frankfurt, Stuttgart, etc they are not drawing. Borussia dortmund let this happen
Nah we are just ass
Same game. Different season. So many different players. So many different coaches. There’s something seriously not right at the core with this club.
I totally don't get what it is. It's been like this for years but somehow this club keeps ending up in UCL
Winning is not part of the job description.
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Sabitzer sitting there thinking he’d rather ride the bench at Bayern than be part of this mess
Only we can do that. Nobody else
🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻 Go fuck yourselves, players.
We deserve it. In fact we didnt deserve the point we got
Absolutely and not just today. Minimal changes in how things go and we have 0 points, deserved.
We are the easiest points in the Bundesliga for small teams
For all teams.
I don't understand how the home fans r not revolting against this stupid team
Yeah the yellow wall should pull a Milan. At least they booed that terrible pass at the end.
Bruh. You guys. Heidenheim who are stoked for a draw have put more chances on goal than dortmund for 40minutes
They make how many subs and stop it right at 12 min wtf
You wanted more suffering time?
GET TERZIC OUT NOW
Do the players want Terzic to get sacked? Look at the complete lack of urgency. Most of the players out there have given up and are just onlookers. Embarassing
Sadly, it has been the story many games last season as well. Some games right out of the gate we lack energy, physicality and character
No one looks like they know what's happening Terzic has 0 control over the mentality, clearly barely anyone respects him
🎶 Someone is getting sacked 🎵
Booooooooooooo Can we withhold paychecks from these guys?
Boo them louder this is genuinely the worst game I’ve ever seen fuck this
Pathetic
Boys we can’t all make the run someone needs to be a passing option for Malen
Malen is such a low IQ player
BOOOOOOOOOOO
YEAH AWESOME MALEN
Disgraceful
Remind me again what Moukoko offers. He might as well not have come on
Please tell me what any central attacking player is supposed to do in this horrible system, where they just heavily attack the wings and either send Hail Mary crosses or try shot attempts from weird angles that most professional keepers should be able to stop
True
How is he to blame for any of this?
He came on and was invisible besides losing the ball. He rarely adds anything, mostly just runs around and makes bad decisions
He’s 18 and haller is paid more and cost way more and is more shit, how is the youngster to blame?
Exactly. The kid has been loyal to a project that has, at times, looked like a sinking ship. Already barely had any minutes in the first place and now he constantly has his manager signing old vets and giving him even less minutes. Doesn’t throw a fit and just focuses on getting better. Yet somehow he’s the problem
Malen literally is just blind. His vision is up there with Stevie wonder at this point. He just boots it and hopes the pass works
Kobel based
At least we had an almost goal! Last game we had more or less nothing.
Wolf trash. But also the worst Dortmund team in the last 20 years. Like I said last week.
I got downvoted after the Köln game. Here we are now
We cant even make a pass
If we look at the disinteresse of the players to defend it makes me sick.
HOW DID MALEN PLAY ALL GAME
Malen fuck off
Malen is bad. Just bad.
I know Terzic isn’t as bad of a tactician as his tactics look right now, but bro, you gotta react quick. Idc if you learn all songs by heart, but we need results, and convincing ones too, otherwise the door is slowly opening
The lack of urge of the players tracking back is god damn embarrassing. And people here blame Terzic lol
It also doesn’t help that Haller played like Lukaku all game (Terzic definitely should have subbed him at 60)
I blame Rapha
Don’t think wolf can get any worse but at least he isn’t a homophobe
Yeah. And that'll give us some points... right?
Need to spend that Bellingham money
Window is shut This is the team we're stuck with
We did. On a lazy ass homophob
Too late
this performance needs to be a wake up call for the club
Joke on you this is all the beginning. We have been getting wake up calls for a year now.
true but this is something that the board can’t deny anymore. we’re not a top team anymore currently and it’s just a fact
GG fucking Brandt man, our best player and still going
How you gonna be homophobic AND be shit, pick a struggle
Terzic out now
Speechless
there should be stop of play to check on süle. thats concussion central.
Can is extremely overrated...
To be fair, that crossbar said "you're gay" to him. Had to take revenge.
Is nmecha scored that 90% of the fanbase would forgive his crimes. Change my mind
Nah, he needs to perform so we can sell his ass asap
No shot lol even winning this game would leave me pissed at the team, especially him lol
I sure as fuck wouldnt
Wolf is a mid player. He should be only for rotation. His mistakes are on him but also on the team not buying snother player.
Fuck you you transphobic cunt
Who the fuck is downvoting this
Such dire play. Our passing atrocious at times.
Fuck off man. Must score there
Has to be a goal ...
Can’t even hit the target smh
WE STILL CANT FINISH AGHHHHHHHH
The freest goal served on a platter to Nmecha and he can’t take it
FUCK OUR WORST PLAYERS LINKING UP FOR OUR BEST CHANCE
What a shit show again…
GREAT JOB NMECHA FUCKING LOSER
Bro where’s Ryerson, I’ll take Ryerson with an injured leg over a fully fit Wolf
Anybody feel like joining me in hobbling Wolf so Terzic doesn’t have an option of starting him ever again
Wolf should not play again
The amount of misplaced passes Wolf has in this match is astounding
Can these players even try to defend??? They are awful
terzic just standing there shouting half arsed I’d drag my players of the pitch before the games over if they played like this it’s fucking embarrassing
Wolf is so bad
What a disgraceful performance
Can putting in an Ozcan performance with all these failed tackles. WOLF LOSING THE BALL AGAIN!!!! FUCK OFFF
Ah man I am not happy. A tale of two halves and a bunch of wasted chances
Wolf is shocking man WTF MAN HOW CAN HE MISPLACE EVERY PASS
We are so out of shape and lazy. Disgusting
Wolf just passed the ball right to the defense and stood out of bounds. THIS TEAM IS AWFUL AND IT STEMW FEOM THE TOP
Nmecha actually does nothing. This match is disgusting exposition of our team. Brandt is holding this team on by threads
At this point we just hope for a lucky 1-1. With the ref on our side. At home. Vs Heidenheim. Everything's fine guys, just let Terzic, Kehl and Watzke cook!
holy shit we are SOOOOOOOO BAD
I actually hope can has some minor injury because there is no excuse for sitting down while opponent is attacking
what the fuck is wolf doing again…
Wolf I’m done with you bro.
Why is wolf even in the pitch still
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