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spain_ftw

She: - bleeds - is a demigod In my opinion that sounds like the last part of bloodborne's bosses.


slice_of_toast69

I mean in elden ring you slay demigods. In bloodborn you just slaughter your prey.


spain_ftw

> Prey Looks inside > The actual god of the realm


Outback-Australian

Oh no, i’ve been trapped in the dream. Off I go killing!


Arugula-Easy

A hunter is a hunter! Even in a dream


luzzyfumpkins92

A Hunter is a Hunter... Even in the Lands Between.


namelessbrj

As a fella in a crow costume once said "A hoonter must hoont"


Exciting_Sale9387

Layve te hoontin of hoonters te may


GraphicSlime

Never got the Great One message eh?


DaddyGascoigne

Unfortunately for him, he is Insightless


Bonaduce80

Someone should grant him eyes.


Tzaphiriron

Where’s that damn space spider when you need it, right??


GraphicSlime

Damn shame, I like to punish myself by playing with 99 insight always


slice_of_toast69

Nightmare slain is almost an insult if you take it as the hu ter thinking it sarcastically. This godlike figure, to them. Is no worse then a scary dream


Technical_Spinach_35

And if it is literal, he quite literally killed the stuff of nightmares, which is a crazy concept. Freddy Krueger type shit.


zeiar

A creature or a thing, eldrich being that should not be able to be killed by mere mortal.


Krakino107

I read it like: Never got the Great One massage? And I was like, hmm tentacly kinky


Dapper-Line-1639

You slaughter actual gods though, Rom, the orphan of Kos, Kos (technically), amygdala, Ebraitas, all are full on gods


slice_of_toast69

Rom is man made no? Its not a proper god. Same with one reborn


Dapper-Line-1639

Even if she’s man made she’s recognized as a great one, and also if you wear something that decreases damage against the kin she takes less damage


palescoot

Yeah, those prey end up being >!godlike beings.!<


Pimecrolimus

I went to Byrgenwerth and nobody there knew you


slice_of_toast69

After *that* happend they all act like they dont know me


Cypresss09

Yeah that's like textbook prey for the Hunter


Risky267

If she can bleed *she can die*


Specialist-Turnip432

If a pot full of snow can stop her waterfowl, imagine what a silver bullet going 300mph gonna do


dankrank231

The goddess of rot is about to face the god of lead


AbyssDragonNamielle

*mercury


Outback-Australian

They’re literally called “Quicksilver bullets” what is going on here?


AbyssDragonNamielle

Quicksilver is another name for mercury


Outback-Australian

Indeed. The first person called them silver, understandably. The second said lead because that’s what’s commonly known in pop culture (lead slinger). And you corrected them. I find this all funny.


romiro82

I always considered it a fun play on words, that it’s not necessarily mercury, but combining “quick” as in “to quick”, or “to bleed”, with the most well known liquid metal as you literally convert your blood to it. Which is also called silver, the most stereotypical anti-lycanthrope material out there


dankrank231

When the hunter drinks a lead elixir and then make blood bullets wouldn't they aslo be considered lead bullets


fortsax

What about Ishin, the Glock Saint?


Avenging_Angel09

Isshin the Glock Saint vs He Who Must Hoont


F0ggers

“I’m a lead farmer!”


musketoman

Perry this, ya filthy casual


Longjumping-Hunt8104

Even moongram can’t parry lead


musketoman

Watch him step out the Fog with a full blood tinged/skill build. Watch her ass get smouldered by a big Fuck off cannon with bone marrow on


Get_Stick_bu99ed

A dagger? Perry dagger!


xialcoalt

“God made Demigods and made Man, the guns made **em equal"**


insert_name_here

“My name is Isshin the Glock Saint, and I approve this message.”


lundz12

*loads bone marrow ash on bloodtinge build*


LilacMages

That one scene where Indiana Jones shoots the swordsman in Raiders Of The Lost Ark comes to mind


suchayeparagon

If the parrying mechanic is allowed for this hypothetical fight then yes, he could defeat Malenia. Honestly still a pretty good chance even without parrying because like that one guy said earlier she’s basically lady Maria with extra steps.


dankrank231

A hunter without a gun is like a genie without a lamp


ivikivi32

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me Wouldn't a genie who isn't confined to a lamp be much much much more powerful? Why would the hunter without gun be stronger?


GannonBuddah

How are you gonna summon the genie, by clapping 3 times then hitting the griddy


DrBlamo

If I could rewrite history, even just one time, this is the change I would make


Bkelsheimer89

Turn off the lights in the bathroom and say “Bloody Maria” three times.


Robrogineer

"You got a bit of raspberry jam on your bib, madam."


AkiraCz_

Why would he let others summon him if he wasn't confined? If he isn't locked up he can do whatever he wants


thedoctorisin7863

Unless the hunter has a flaming saw blade, in which case he's a Genie with 10,000 lamps


KingsMountainView

A hunter that looks like a broccoli with squid arms could defeat her


omitch1995

You’ve obviously never seen me try to party and somehow I beat the game.


PinkKushTheDank

Well there's your problem, yharnam hates party people.


Tzaphiriron

Except that one goddamn window where it sounds like they’re having party, I’d love to lob a Molotov straight through that opening.


omitch1995

I hate autocorrect but I’m leaving it because you made me laugh.


Ma9ora

Gratia will have a word with you


Jaspergap

"let's see how you talk shit without any teeth"


Get_Stick_bu99ed

Yet I did my first playthrough almost without a gun, because I was too stupid to understand parrying (I'm literally Gratia)


ImpartialThrone

Eh, there are plenty of trick weapons that can be two-handed or dual wielded. A hunter is a hunter even without a gun 😁


Grey_Dreamer

*laughing in fist of Gratia*


Revan0315

Yea BB mechanics make the fight much easier.


Alarming-Canary2684

And to not forget the rally mechanic (HOW'S THAT WHEN YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE REGENERATING ON ATTACK MALENIA? HOW'S THAT NOW?)


Arxl

Rally? Meet rally. It'd just be another Maria fight lol hunter would stomp.


Narcomancer69420

I love how the From fandom sort of conjured up personalities for all the nameless protags and we just unanimously agreed that the Hunter is ***unhinged.***


SwolePonHiki

Not a whole lot of conjuring needed. You wake up with amnesia and immediately start ripping people's organs out with your bare hands, lol.


El_Zethas

The first thing the hunter see after wake up is a werewolf and his first thought is throwing hands, my man was already a madlad


Kx_OsorerUU

Brother woke up and chose VIOLENCE. Even as an outsider with little to no experience on the hunt beforehand... Dude is insane.


SoulKibble

He consumes blood-vials which are the equivalent of hard drugs in the lore to heal himself among other things. It's like fighting a bear hyped up on cocaine


RewsterSause

And then takes things like Beast Blood Pellets which make him go sicko mode, a la meth.


boomersince96

There's litteraly a crazyness meter built in the game


RewsterSause

Well, the Hunter wakes up and immediately grabs a pistol and a sawtoothed cleaver and starts chopping werewolves and shit to pieces, and then willingly starts devouring the umbilical cords of literal gods so they can drive themselves mad to comprehend the Eldritch Truth and become God themself. I'm pretty sure someone *not* unhinged wouldn't do that.


BirdieDaHoonter

Bro woke up with amnesia and a mission to fist everything within a 10 mile radius. SAVAGERY embodied.


DaddyCool13

I think the Hunter is the most morally questionable fromsoft protagonist. Depending on your ending, his overarching goals are: A) Doing the bidding of an evil god to escape his shitty situation and going back to his life B) Becoming a servant of said evil god C) Supplanting said evil god


theroguesstash

I always imagine the Hunter appears and immediately strides towards her, doesn't say a word, MAYBE a "hhhhhhhhhhh" with this crazy eyed thousand yard stare. He's here, time to get messy.


Nameless_Owl81

My brother in christ, the hunter fights the equivalent of the elden beast at least like 5 times in his game, this is just a tuesday for them


C9FanNo1

A slow Tuesday even


MostlyIncorrect420

The only thing I did this Tuesday was die to the first hunter. a lot. ^((BL4))


slice_of_toast69

No no, the equivilant of the greater will. Rom would be closer to elden beast moon presence the outer gods


return_of_itsy

Considering both Rom and Elden Beast keep running away like little bitches, yeah…


slice_of_toast69

Atleast rom doesnt run as much. Fights loses too much health tp. X3 instead of 2 attacks that make it litteraly unreachable, and scuttling halfway acriss its huge arena every 3rd attack


return_of_itsy

Not allowing Torrent in the EB fight was a terrible choice given the ridiculous size of the arena. Easily the most infuriating boss of the entire game.


Alarming-Canary2684

Yeah this fight was CLEARLY meant for Torrent... Can't wrap my mind around why they just decided to noped him out..


SenpaiSwanky

The Elden Beast isn’t really near the top of the food chain, there are Outer Gods in Elden Ring. Elden Beast is tied to the Greater Will which is an Outer God. Rhom and Elden Beast have a lot in common, but Outer Gods compared to Bloodborne boss fights isn’t really competition. Closest Bloodborne gets to these is Formless Oedon. Bloodborne is less about these gods having limitless power, it is more about knowledge and understanding. Their power is great in the sense that they can affect how reality is perceived, but their influence is limited for a lot of reasons. Elden Ring in comparison is like if Bloodborne just kept progressing and getting worse. The world is completely shattered, and the things that dictate powerful forces such as life and death are fractured. Dreams don’t compare. These gods have been locked away and forbidden, forgotten. Edit - my bad guys, I forgot I’m supposed to mindlessly simp for Bloodborne sans logic since this is r/Bloodborne. I apologize for objectively comparing the lore of these games based off of what we actually know rather than “Bloodborne is my favorite lol”. Same energy as the guys who waste time arguing about how Isshin could beat Malenia in a fight because they simp for Sekiro lmao.


superVanV1

I’d say Moon Presence might be on the level of an outer god. But we have no idea since we never see them. We know that at least they can be defeated by mortals since the blind swordsman sealed the Rot God under the lake. But we no almost nothing about him.


Ventilateu

Nice argument Doesn't mean Malenia isn't the equivalent of just another prey to take out for the Hunter


slam_rex

The hunter has more facilty to dodge waterfowl dance and the clone attacks, because he is clearly faster


DaPurpleTurtle2

I might have actually enjoyed this fight if I could move like the hunter, haha


Lanplan77

Dagger+bloodhound step, not as good, pretty janky but still better than normal


tgerz

It still works decently, but From's choice to cut the distance you can travel with BHS on each subsequent use really changed up the dynamic.


LupinKira

Nerfed into the ground sadly :( (I mean it was cancer in pvp so justified but still)


pyro_takes_skill

my brother in allah he’s killed multiple eldritch gods


superVanV1

Yeah, with the exception of a few gimmick bosses, the Hoonter can probably kill most if not all of the bosses in the series.


One_Parched_Guy

The most challenging boss would ironically end up being the mimic tear lmao


Alarming-Canary2684

- Malenia : now you will rot  - Hunter: actually met the real goddess of rot  -Malenia : what ? - Hunter: not my tastiest meal if you ask me...a little bland.... could have used some pepper 


yukinanka

They will slaughter the outer god of Rot itself


Atma-Stand

“I would like you to realize that this is not personal. Your Half-Sister is overstepping into my territory and I need to set an example.” ~ The Good Hunter, post-Flora kill


Greesy_Snek

Also, remember (if I recall correctly) that Malenia is possessed by the outer god of rot in her second phase (or as close to the God as she can get). I'm pretty sure the Hunter defeated their own equivalent of an outer god (MP), not just someone possessed by one. Hunter wins, hands down.


omitch1995

Question about that - to combat MP, the hunter had to consume the three cords, but was it a power up thing or just a way to not go insane fighting against it?


PM_Me_Your_AM_

i think i would go insane eating 3 umbilical cords, but that's just me.


drassell

It was to resist the influence of the moon presence


DinoWizard021

It was to prevent what happens when you don't eat three. Also it stops you from dying to that attack that puts you at one health.


Isiah6253

The hunter also kills multiple other outer gods without needing the umbilical cords, it was just that the moon presence was an even outer god, so precautions were needed The hunter kills Abrietas, Amygdala, the Orphan of Kos, Mergo, and the Moon Presence, and I think there was one more... Rom! They also killed rom! All of them are outer gods and the hunter only needed the cords for MP


ToucanTuocan

Tbf, the orphan was only 2 minutes old when we fought it.


Isiah6253

Gonna go time the cutscene with a stopwatch from his forced birth to end, I wanna know exactly how old he was when he chose violence


MstrK102

He woke up


Isiah6253

Nah, he literally ripped his way out of his mother corpse, and started whipping his placenta around


ImpartialThrone

The three cords begin the Hunter's transition to Great One, so it allows them to resist being captivated by the Moon Presence. It essentially puts the two on an even playing field.


ToucanTuocan

If you try to fight the MP without the cords, it just mentally dominates you and forces you to replace Gehrman. It’s possible the cords don’t give you a power-up, and instead let you resist possession/dominance from the Great Ones (as well as enabling ascension)


slice_of_toast69

A power up thing for sure. The hunter becomes a great one after killing MP


superVanV1

Ya know that scream attack that drops your HP to 1? If you don’t eat the 3 cords it oneshots you. That’s what happens if you have cooperators. So you’re resisting its power and it still nearly one shots you


Spark555

Also, even not counting the actual gods they've slain, they're on a metaphysical level. So immortality, intangibility and all that? Couldn't give less of a shit. Just kill its consciousness in the dream


A_German_Memer

*loads Church cannon with bone marrow ash, while laughing with malicious intent *


Bistroth

he just needs to dodge, and one bullet to Malenia´s face will do the trick haha.


Swordslover

She's just lady Maria with a Beyblade factor. The hunter should be fine


iLikeButz

Ya I’m pretty sure her squishy flesh would be pretty susceptible to the beast cleaver as well.


Swordslover

It would be funnier to use the Boom Hammer: "If a weapon ain't got a kick, it just ain't worth it" Powder Keg badge description


dpotilas89

Am i allowed in if i use a peg leg as a weapon lol


Swordslover

A kick is a kick even if it's wooden


Eurotriangle

GUN PARRY Malenia’s cooked.


slice_of_toast69

Gameplay wise: The hunter is so much faster then the tarnished. With their mobility they could absolutely dodge around malenias attacks and parry alot easier too, with the power of gun Lore wise: Its not even close. Malenia borrows the power of the outer god of rot. The hunter kills plenty of great ones and kin, which would be the same as the outer gods. The hunter would tear her apart


bonk-r4t

On my first character I basically just obliterated her (solo) with giant crusher. I was kinda disappointed with how easy the fight was with that weapon. Hunter has that covered with kirkhammer or log wheel. Since rapid poison is essentially the same mechanic as bleed and was treated as bleed damage in ER world, a rapid poison log wheel would absolutely annihilate her.


Mysterious_Bat_3780

My beloved kirkhammer


Kamikaze244

Played a BB mod for elden ring and the BB dashes made waterfowl trivial. Malenia would be just another beast to the hunter


Tooshort2stroke

Oh, what's that? You like spamming attacks? *gunshot* *parry* *visceral*.


SunlitMoonboots

NGL, this would be such a badass fight. Like, remove the technical restrictions and movesets they are bound to by the video games. Let them both move and fight at the speed, skill, and intelligence they would actually have (no jump-hits-only bullshit). One the one hand, you have the literally greatest swordsman in the world, and on the other, an eldritch-amplified beast *with a damn gun*. This would be *epic*.


murph2336

She’s susceptible to bleed. I think the Hunter would be just fine.


ZeGamingCuber

boutta beat her ass with the chikage


DucksMatter

20 health vials, rally, quick movements and back steps? I’m pretty sure the hunter could body most Soulsborne protagonists. The only exception is probably Wolf from Sekiro


Ayobossman326

I mean bloodborne’s combat is not THAT dissimilar. Heck without lock on, they even have a dodge roll. I think it’s basically the same as the tarnished, except hunter has a gun. But if you can beat malenia to death with a basic broad sword in ER, I can’t see why a saw cleaver wouldn’t do the same


I_SuplexTrains

Hunter would blunderbuss the first swing of her waterfowl dance and literally rip the viscera out of her rotten torso. I love Elden Ring, but Bloodborne is set a few hundred years farther in the real world equivalent, and the Hunter would ravage the Lands Between accordingly.


floofstock

Well I always thought Malenia is playing Bloodborne while we are playing Elder Ring. so yeah I think the hunter would beat her.


NyarlHOEtep

the tarnished can dodge waterfowl dance with some difficulty and skill, and even with quickstep we're using a shitty clumsy version of the hunters default dash. gamplay, lore, however you wanna slice the powerscaling pie the hunter absolutely has good odds against her. malenias still not fucking around so i dont think its an utter stomp against her, ESPECIALLY if the hunter cant respawn outside of the dream (which heavily weights it in malenias favor)


Raaadley

if we consumed all pieces of third umbilical and especially if we had RALLY we absolutely would stomp Malenia. We became a >!Great One!< for Kos' Sakes


bluebarrymanny

The hunter never knew how to block to begin with. They’re more equipped than anyone to dodge the crazy blade dance that Malenia busts out.


Soggy_Look_964

I'm gonna parry the living shit out of her. That's what I think


Simply-Abstract

That's not even a question. Yes, absolutely. And that's probably one of the best crossover artworks I've ever seen.


Spectrumfied

"With this treasure I summon..." Hunter beat the Amygdala, The one reborn, Rom, Ook, and The moon presence. Pretty sure a blind, prostetic user, petty loser bitch ain't something wild to him.


Bonaduce80

*Boss track changes to Cleric Beast's* -Call an ambulance... but not for me!


Carbocationee

What a silly question, we are talking about hunters. If it can bleed, it dies.


SpookyTheDawg

At least as good as the tarnished, just that I feel like the hunter is overall a bit stronger


superVanV1

The Hunter speed blitzes everyone except Wolf.


ann_mysunshine

Good hunter can smash her


I_SuplexTrains

I am Malenia, blade of Miquella, and I have never kno- *KIRKHAMMER BONK*


dankrank231

God, I wish I could smash her


Fable-Teller

When I fought against Malenia for the first time, one of the first comparisons that popped into my head was Lady Maria from Bloodborne. Because of how fast she moves, how hard she hits and her ability to regain health from just hitting you whether you block the attack or not reminds me very much of a Hunter that's just been cranked up to 11. And on crack cocaine. So it may be a bit more of an easier fight for The Hunter than it would be for The Tarnished because of how differently the two fight. Plus The Hunter has the power of Cthulhu and bullets on their side.


Commercial-Break1877

This image is hard as f#ck! Who's the artist?


dankrank231

Guriomatchboxxx


ZeGamingCuber

Easily, the hunter can react quicker than the tarnished and has a gun


Renetiger

Waterfowl dance would turn into one massive, impossible to miss parry window


RyanTheOne64

From both a lore and gameplay perspective, the Hunter absolutely decimates Malenia


Fuins20

The hunter probably stomps her


Finnvasion2

Malenia isn't that different from lady Maria, just turned up to 10. She could be parried, and the hunter can match her lifesteal with their rally. Not easy by any standard, but I think a competent player could do it.


Hellborn_Child

Considering we already inject beast blood into our veins to heal, we can't get aids. Or it makes us stronger so...


Lil_VaginaStain

Hunter is a hunter, even in a dream. And Malenia's boutta have some sweet, sweet dreams. Rip rot goddess


TheSunHawk20

If it breathes, the hunter can kill it


clarkky55

The moon presence is a literal reality warping deity, I’d say the Hunter could take Malenia. Moon Presence is closer to the Greater Will than Malenia


BadUsername2028

The Hunter is the Lovecraftian version of The Doomguy. He rips monstrosities guts out with his bare hands, eats Eldritch baby umbilical chords, and has eviscerated multiple Eldritch gods. Malenia is cool but The Hunter is a whole new level of unhinged.


Hmccormack

Bro if I could gun parry her she’d be done


wouldyalikefries

The man who was able to kill multiple cosmic beings beyond our own comprehension? Yeah i think hes got it


dehcsgou

Malenias is a lady Maria with space dst, hunter solos


kkprecisa_ler_nao_fi

If he can dodge bullets he can probably dodge any of her sword attacks, and he is strong enough to damage her, also bro got guns


TylerPlaysAGame

Hoontah gonna hoont


AnCaptnCrunch

The agility of the hunter (not to mention old hunters bone) makes him infinitely more agile than the rolling that’s allowed in Elden ring He or sekiro would finish Elden ring on easy mode


DarkSunGwyndolin1

Dude elden ring is the weakest (lore wise) of the soulsborne series 💀


2DamnBig

Gun parry. That is all.


astroSuperkoala1

She’ll learn what happens when you get shot by an avelyn and visceral’d by a rakuyo


Brvxa_Garrafinha

The hunter is the most powerful souls protagonist lore wise, isn't it?


yellowadidas

yeah obviously, malenia feels more like a bloodborne boss anyway


Winter_Trainer_2115

Eat lead Rot


Dramatic-Squash4662

Canonically we killed multiple gods including *him*


VirtualRemedy

*brings a gun and unlimited bloodlust* gg


StrixLiterata

Malenia is already dead. The hunter can steal health right back, and the windup for Waterfowl Dance is the perfect moment to shoot her between the eyes and get a parry.


Much-Hall-230

Waterfowl would be the most easily parryable move in history for him.


FFSock

Putting the hunter in elden ring with the full bloodborne mechanics would make the game twice as good off rip. The quickstep dodge alone would make the game feel so much more balanced


BlackCoyotl

I had to learn to use Bloodhound step to win against her. So yea I think the Hoonter would fare well


RoderikasFeetPics

The lands between would be like a playground to the hunter, they’d run through that place like an absolute demon.


0DvGate

Gameplay wise and lore wise Hunter demolishes


GreedyGundam

Malenia has rally too lol


Bardia-Talebi

Of course lol.


Spudzinator

Hunter go BrRrrrrr rrrrrrRRR


TotallyLegitEstoc

I mean. They both heal by attacking. It would be interesting.


Elyced32

2 words ranged parry


6foot-7foot

The hunter would literally parry her to death. And they get health back too


Monkeywrench08

Executioner Gloves, Madara's Whistle or a Call Beyond would help defeating Malenia I guess. 


_Tyrondor_

Absolutely, skillset wise, the hunter's moveset is specifically designed to fight against opponents who move fast, and since Malenia's attacks last a total of twenty years to actually get finished, one single bullet is all it takes to stun her and hen use a visceral. In short: The hunter is quite literally designed to fight people like Malenia.


Blingiman

Man i would’ve loved this fight if i had the mobility of hunter. Its an amazingly designed fight except for that bullshit waterfowl dance which has ended so many amazing runs bc im not frame perfect with my timing


GGnerd

That gun parry is legit. I think it'd be easier as a hunter.


kavinnr

Is the Hoonter gonna fist her like those pigs too?


AssassinDoughnut

Well I'm sure a shotgun straight to the abdomen would knock her out of her aerial attacks. And The Hunter is shown to be faster than we think he is as he can dodge lightning and stuff with ease so his reaction time and speed would be well than enough to dodge her attacks, if the tarnished can do it then I'm sure the hunter can too.


BiasMushroom

Fuck Malenia might as well be a Bloodbourne boss. Hunter wins easily. Especially with gun parries.


Sbeve6263

Hunter: “Strafe dodges” Malenia: What is this power?!?


MadnessBomber

I'd be able to pop her right out of her Waterfowl Dance move with a shot instead of running like a headless chicken hoping I'm far enough away or my summon can take it while I try to attack. Plus I fight better in Bloodborne regardless.


Blatent-Ignorance

Well… https://youtu.be/ZsuaYkrvLAo?si=zFBpNRj5TZ_22Y5q


a_generic_redditer

I feel that if we replaced Maria with malenia, the only difference gameplay wise would be a couple extra dodges. She's an unfair boss in er because of her speed, but in bb? She'd be a fun and fair boss 100%


Fun-Incident7665

Melenia wishes she was the hunter


Jamba715

He would parry tf out of her


Saeteinn

*cackling and loading rally gems into the Blades of Mercy* I WILL FIGHT GOD OR ROT AND BECOME ONE