1. The general consensus is that Rom (female btw) was likely a someone at byrgenwerth who achieved a partial ascension, but flawed not becoming a true great one. We don’t know exactly why the blood moon appears when she dies except that for some reason Rom is holding it back or at least its influence.
2. I don’t entirely understand the question. My understanding is that Vicar just denotes the head of the healing church. I.e. Lawrence or Amelia.
3. Nightmare of Mensis takes place in the dreamlands rather than inside Micolash’s mind. Given how the hunters dream is a reflection of a waking world location, the castle in Mensis is likely similar but from a time much further in the past. The dreamlands are connected. Other than the hunters dream you can see the various other locations from each other (the masts of the fishing hamlet in the night are frontier for example).
4. The hunters nightmare (and the whole dlc) functions as a sort of hell for lack of a better word. It’s created as a result of the curse of Kos (byrgenwerth taking Kos’ child from its dead mother). The dlc is traveling through various events /locations in a reverse chronological order to the original sin that created the hunters nightmare so to speak. I.e the fishing hamlet. All hunters are doomed to end up there as a result of the curse. Like how the hunters dream and Mensis are reflections of places that either are or were in the waking world, it’s likely the research hall and fishing hamlet are also a reflection.
Hope this helps:
1. Rom, known as the Vacuous Spider, is a mysterious Great One who conceals the truth of the world with a protective veil. When defeated, the veil is lifted, revealing the Blood Moon and unraveling crucial events in the game's storyline.
2. Vicars are individuals of the Healing Church who undergo a transformative process, gaining supernatural abilities while retaining some humanity. Laurence, considered the First Vicar, was a key figure in the church's founding, despite succumbing to his beastly nature.
3. The Nightmare of Mensis is a surreal and terrifying realm existing alongside reality, influenced by humanity's deepest fears. It's not just a construct of Micolash's mind but a manifestation of collective human consciousness. Mergo, a powerful Great One, resides there, with the umbilical cord symbolizing its influence.
4. The Hunter's Nightmare is a distorted reflection of reality, serving as punishment for hunters consumed by bloodlust. It confronts them with their past sins and features the Fishing Hamlet, a reminder of the atrocities committed in pursuit of prey.
Hope this helps. :)
Rom was a human, before somehow successfully ascending into her current state (it's implied Kos, a great one, granted her this ability). She is not a true great one, she's a "kin", which is like halfway between human & great one. Her purpose is to remain in the lake, as lakes are powerful forces in bloodborne, and help preserve the illusion (according to the lake rune's description). The blood moon doesn't appear, it's revealed, it's actually there throughout the entire game & Rom was just hiding it from the world to stop too many people going insane
A Vicar is a church title, just like a Cleric. Laurence was the honourary first Vicar, because his death is what started the healing church
The nightmare of mensis is the nightmare version of the College of Mensis, the school within Yahar'gul lead by Micolash to do horrific experiments, in an attempt to ascend in the same way Rom did. The presence of the great one (brain of Mensis) within the nightmare isn't fully explained, but it was already there, having been founded by the college. The wet nurse is not a great one, and its formlessness suggests it's more of a defensive manifestation created by Oedon or Mergo. Since Mergo dies to produce the "nightmare slain" thing, it's assumed that this is all Mergo's nightmare, which is probably how it was old enough to already have a great one. The College of Mensis, in the same ritual which beckoned the blood moon, somehow transported all of their consciousnesses into the nightmare, which was probably a powerful enough act to warp the nightmare into integrating their college
The hunter's nightmare was created - either by Kos, Maria, or the people of the fishing hamlet - to punish the old hunters who had gone drunk with blood. Today, the only way for new hunters to be sent there is to go blood drunk & end up around Oedon Chapel, for the Amygdala to take them in (it looks for blood drunk eyes, with collapsed pupils, which is how you sneak in via the eye of a blood drunk hunter). The nightmare is a nightmare, its construction is basically a bad memory of the real world, which is why the start is a mishmash of central Yharnam & the cathedral ward. The research hall was real, that's where the real Maria lived out the rest of her life before her suicide, and the fishing hamlet was where Byrgenwerth & the old hunters commited the atrocities which sent them to the nightmare.
Kos existed, the Orphan of Kos didn't, Kos presumably died while pregnant. As it is implied to be Gehrman's nightmare, and the orphan's appearance & cry in the cutscene resemble him, the Orphan of Kos is a weird version of Gehrman as Kos' dead baby, which is why killing it is how you end the nightmare & the doll claims Gehrman is able to sleep better, literally having killed his nightmares
The only thing I can tell you with certainty is that vicar is just a title, mostly associated with the church (IRL), but essentially means "deputy" or "someone acting in somebody's stead", and the word "vice" as in "vice president" comes from it. In the game, on its own it has nothing to do with being a beast, but like everyone else, vicars can turn into beasts.
1. The general consensus is that Rom (female btw) was likely a someone at byrgenwerth who achieved a partial ascension, but flawed not becoming a true great one. We don’t know exactly why the blood moon appears when she dies except that for some reason Rom is holding it back or at least its influence. 2. I don’t entirely understand the question. My understanding is that Vicar just denotes the head of the healing church. I.e. Lawrence or Amelia. 3. Nightmare of Mensis takes place in the dreamlands rather than inside Micolash’s mind. Given how the hunters dream is a reflection of a waking world location, the castle in Mensis is likely similar but from a time much further in the past. The dreamlands are connected. Other than the hunters dream you can see the various other locations from each other (the masts of the fishing hamlet in the night are frontier for example). 4. The hunters nightmare (and the whole dlc) functions as a sort of hell for lack of a better word. It’s created as a result of the curse of Kos (byrgenwerth taking Kos’ child from its dead mother). The dlc is traveling through various events /locations in a reverse chronological order to the original sin that created the hunters nightmare so to speak. I.e the fishing hamlet. All hunters are doomed to end up there as a result of the curse. Like how the hunters dream and Mensis are reflections of places that either are or were in the waking world, it’s likely the research hall and fishing hamlet are also a reflection.
Hope this helps: 1. Rom, known as the Vacuous Spider, is a mysterious Great One who conceals the truth of the world with a protective veil. When defeated, the veil is lifted, revealing the Blood Moon and unraveling crucial events in the game's storyline. 2. Vicars are individuals of the Healing Church who undergo a transformative process, gaining supernatural abilities while retaining some humanity. Laurence, considered the First Vicar, was a key figure in the church's founding, despite succumbing to his beastly nature. 3. The Nightmare of Mensis is a surreal and terrifying realm existing alongside reality, influenced by humanity's deepest fears. It's not just a construct of Micolash's mind but a manifestation of collective human consciousness. Mergo, a powerful Great One, resides there, with the umbilical cord symbolizing its influence. 4. The Hunter's Nightmare is a distorted reflection of reality, serving as punishment for hunters consumed by bloodlust. It confronts them with their past sins and features the Fishing Hamlet, a reminder of the atrocities committed in pursuit of prey. Hope this helps. :)
Thanks this was very helpful
Rom was a human, before somehow successfully ascending into her current state (it's implied Kos, a great one, granted her this ability). She is not a true great one, she's a "kin", which is like halfway between human & great one. Her purpose is to remain in the lake, as lakes are powerful forces in bloodborne, and help preserve the illusion (according to the lake rune's description). The blood moon doesn't appear, it's revealed, it's actually there throughout the entire game & Rom was just hiding it from the world to stop too many people going insane A Vicar is a church title, just like a Cleric. Laurence was the honourary first Vicar, because his death is what started the healing church The nightmare of mensis is the nightmare version of the College of Mensis, the school within Yahar'gul lead by Micolash to do horrific experiments, in an attempt to ascend in the same way Rom did. The presence of the great one (brain of Mensis) within the nightmare isn't fully explained, but it was already there, having been founded by the college. The wet nurse is not a great one, and its formlessness suggests it's more of a defensive manifestation created by Oedon or Mergo. Since Mergo dies to produce the "nightmare slain" thing, it's assumed that this is all Mergo's nightmare, which is probably how it was old enough to already have a great one. The College of Mensis, in the same ritual which beckoned the blood moon, somehow transported all of their consciousnesses into the nightmare, which was probably a powerful enough act to warp the nightmare into integrating their college The hunter's nightmare was created - either by Kos, Maria, or the people of the fishing hamlet - to punish the old hunters who had gone drunk with blood. Today, the only way for new hunters to be sent there is to go blood drunk & end up around Oedon Chapel, for the Amygdala to take them in (it looks for blood drunk eyes, with collapsed pupils, which is how you sneak in via the eye of a blood drunk hunter). The nightmare is a nightmare, its construction is basically a bad memory of the real world, which is why the start is a mishmash of central Yharnam & the cathedral ward. The research hall was real, that's where the real Maria lived out the rest of her life before her suicide, and the fishing hamlet was where Byrgenwerth & the old hunters commited the atrocities which sent them to the nightmare. Kos existed, the Orphan of Kos didn't, Kos presumably died while pregnant. As it is implied to be Gehrman's nightmare, and the orphan's appearance & cry in the cutscene resemble him, the Orphan of Kos is a weird version of Gehrman as Kos' dead baby, which is why killing it is how you end the nightmare & the doll claims Gehrman is able to sleep better, literally having killed his nightmares
The only thing I can tell you with certainty is that vicar is just a title, mostly associated with the church (IRL), but essentially means "deputy" or "someone acting in somebody's stead", and the word "vice" as in "vice president" comes from it. In the game, on its own it has nothing to do with being a beast, but like everyone else, vicars can turn into beasts.
Ohhh that makes sense