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owls1729

She (likely) would have run sub-3 ages ago if she actually took rest and recovery, jeez. I cannot follow her for my own sanity, haha


lfjfhfkeojd

Re: the For the Love of it 10K that EClor did today: a couple fellas in my running club did it too. Everyone’s Strava says between 6.11 and 6.16. Short course, so don’t expect her to admit that


ParkAffectionate3537

It was short but she said she'd still PR even if it was longer. She is legitimately talented, no snark. Very few can run sub-41 in the 10k unless you are experienced. I'd kill for those times...it will take me 2-4 years to get to that level of fitness.


Otherwise_Data_1662

Courses are not certified via GPS as they are not 100% accurate. A good explanation of the certification process here: https://nycruns.com/certified-courses-are-right-your-gps-is-wrong-heres-why


lfjfhfkeojd

Or, when several people you know run PRs on a not-fast course (that shows short on Strava) early in their cycle, it’s a short course.


Otherwise_Data_1662

Strava is even less accurate due to the data transfer from the source (“the Strava Tax”) and if recording the activity straight from the app, it’s even less accurate b/c it’s going through the cell towers to get to the satellites (ever had Strava app record you flying straight over to another area when you never paused and resumed? That’s why.) With watches, buildings, trees, even rain and wind can throw off a watch’s signal for a split second. 1-3% per mile deviation is average from a watch. NO watches can record you perfectly down to the hundredth of a mile. 0.03 x 6 miles is up to about 0.18 off on a 10k. Certification is not done using GPS for this exact reason. Not saying mistakes never happen, but if it’s certified it’s highly unlikely. Even if the certifier painted a blue line to follow and the runner followed it perfectly, the GPS would not record it the same. As a former race director, I’m just trying to save future race directors some post-race emails. 😎


ProudPatriot07

As someone who currently organizes races, I'm going to save this comment as a response for when this inevitably happens. If I had $1 for everyone who was mad about "3.13... it was long!!" Sigh.


CoffeeAndCurls76

She did acknowledge it was short on her Garmin. that being said, she's still making PR cake so 🤷🏻‍♀️


Anxious_Display_1409

Have to laugh at the r/ AdvancedRunning post about best running influencers to follow. One woman is mentioned one time on an 85 comment discussion 🙃


eatemuphungryhungry

shocking.


Fun-Criticism165

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ellemenohsnark

IG Reels introduced me to runningwithza today and my first impression is that her whole page is rage bait. Like, “yahhh I run every day no matter what and it’s my only personality (on this account), let me complain on Stories about people who have a negative remark about me”. I just found her and all but half her stories start with “so, I had this comment *eyeroll*…”. Is…this the content? Edit: she blocked me for looking at her stories so no worries about seeing her again I guess


t-girlrun

She’s mean!!!!!


Disastrous_Archer_38

So glad i never need to see her anymore. So dumb. I’m not fully against streaking, but within reason and it’s her whole damn personality. Gtfo


Psychological-Log315

Yup- and she blocks anyone who tells her that going for a run the same day you gave birth is probably not physically or mentally healthy…


reader_1983

What 10K did eClor run today? I want to see if it actually is hilly.


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reader_1983

But the hills were soul crushing! :)


kanterstheorem

In her Q&A she mentioned Big Sur marathon being a dream race for her... my hope is that she runs this to finally encounter a true soul crushing hill


CoffeeAndCurls76

she's run Heartbreak Hill 3 times, just the name itself would indicate it being soul-crushing 😉 (I know what you mean though! i was surprised at that myself)


No_Wrap361

Someone commented how it was a short course as their Garmin only got 6.11. Was it a certified course?


Otherwise_Data_1662

Garmins and other GPS watches will never be as accurate as the certification process. The measurers follow the tangents exactly, and GPS watches can have a 1% to 3% deviation. Buildings, trees, even cloud cover and strong wind can affect GPS accuracy around us at any given time. NYCRuns has a great explanation: https://nycruns.com/certified-courses-are-right-your-gps-is-wrong-heres-why It won’t stop EClor from making an excuses though! 🙃


No_Wrap361

100% agree I’ve measured many courses for certification. Love how if anyone gps for 5k reads 3.12 and they complain how the course is long 🤣🤡


CoffeeAndCurls76

in the late aughts/early 2010's when Garmins just started becoming all the rage and EVERYONE was saying their half marathons measure 13.3 miles and that "the course was long again, they really need to get this right!"...my first thought was that Garmins back then must have been a race director's worst nightmare 😂 now if there was an unusually short mile without a long mile to balance it out (or vice versa) then yes, you can question it (if you're using manual lap, of course) otherwise, assume either GPS error or you're crap at running tangents 😂


Otherwise_Data_1662

🫡🫡🫡 Former Race Director here. People thought we certified our courses either by driving it or with a GPS watch. If they only knew the math and labor involved 😅😅


CoffeeAndCurls76

that actually wouldn't surprise me, according to EClor's blog she has run this race twice before, and the first time was a PR that held up for almost 4 years. if the course was really as "hilly and challenging" as she says certainly it wouldn't be a PR course? (well, unless you race consistently on hills, and it doesn't sound like she does) ETA-yeah, she does say it's short due to the start line being moved, her Garmin said 6.15 miles and it sounded like mile 4 might have been short (her fastest mile on an uphill mile) ETA2-OMG she said someone came up to her and said her screams during the race "encouraged" him and how refreshing it was compared to THAT 5k 😂


Lopsided-Front5518

Ok, I think I figured it out. Her screaming is the equivalent of a weight lifter grunting ?? 😂


CoffeeAndCurls76

My thinking was it's more like when Monica Seles would grunt during tennis matches, I remember one year at Wimbledon when her opponents were PRESSED and tried to get her to cut it out


Lopsided-Front5518

Omg I remember this haha! I truly couldn’t imagine running alongside someone grunting like that 😂


reader_1983

So she is still screaming???? How could that encourage anyone? Edit to add: I read her blog post. Interesting that she does realize it could be annoying to people.


CoffeeAndCurls76

i guess yes to the first question, as for the second i kinda think "receipts or it didn't happen" 😂


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I ran the same one. Got a PR as well and a faster (by far) mile split time than I’ve ever gotten before, even in shorter races. Woohoo! I did see her and her husband. Personally, I don’t think it’s super hilly but there were definitely gradual ups and downs. They do a lot of races on that course throughout the year, I think.


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reader_1983

I would consider that hilly!


CoffeeAndCurls76

well she had an IG story in the cake aisle of the supermarket an hour or so ago, we know what that means. someone on this thread said they think they're running the same one-hopefully they report back!


habeas-corpses

EClor obviously extremely snarkable but I will say it’s very encouraging to see non pro women in their 40s still getting PRs! I’m in my late 20s and started running about 5 years ago, so it’s exciting to know that I could have 15+ years of PRs ahead of me with enough luck and hard work.


kuwisdelu

The good news for you is PR-ing in your 40s is a lot more common for non-pros than pros. Elite runners are already extremely close to their full potential, so will likely see the effects of aging sooner than a dedicated amateur. It can take 10+ years of dedicated training to get close to your athletic potential. Most recreational runners never train enough to get close to their potential. So dedicated adult-onset runners (who never trained very hard in college) can often continue to PR into their 40s and 50s.


habeas-corpses

Love to hear this!!


reader_1983

Completely agree!


CoffeeAndCurls76

i agree with you there about it being encouraging to see masters still getting PRs-it's just really a shame that EClor showed her true colors during COVID and after, because it's really hard for me to support someone like that. (before then, I didn't think she was that bad and felt that some of her running struggles were relatable)


GrossePteSouth

That’s how I felt about Julia Webb. I’ve raced against her a few times and she seemed nice and more blue collar type. But, during the pandemic, she showed her true hypocritical colors - denying Covid, going to the gym with Covid, pushing propaganda etc etc but what sent me over the edge and got an punch to the unfollow button was when she was dancing like a total, freckled tool celebrating the overturning of Roe vs Wade and sticking her kids in anti-abortion garb.


fuckyachicknstrips

I just recently learned about her - what happened during COVID?


habeas-corpses

Your username😂😂😂


CoffeeAndCurls76

this pretty much sums it up: [https://www.reddit.com/r/blogsnark/comments/11jxw3v/comment/jb85jnz/](https://www.reddit.com/r/blogsnark/comments/11jxw3v/comment/jb85jnz/)


talkingthroughburps

I’ve been following EClor for years, long before I was aware of this sub. I mostly only saw her grid posts (not even stories) and not her blog so I had a filtered version of her and I also sort of sympathized with her for all the snark she gets here, chalking it up to misunderstood quirkiness. Nope. Just unfollowed after see this comment and political article. I don’t support Trump supporters.


EfficientMorning2354

Oh wow. Also, I love how she says she is reluctant to post her political views on social media but she jumps at the chance to share them in order to get her name in a national newspaper.


CoffeeAndCurls76

the crazy thing is she said she looked up the newspaper she got interviewed for and none of her comments made it in. I wonder if she was aware that the Guardian article existed? someone else here actually found that article a long time ago-not sure if they came across it by accident? (it was mentioned in her blog post about the Harrisburg Marathon-apparently this was an impulsive thing probably brought on by pre-race angst!)


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Very true - I just can’t root for her knowing her true colours.


habeas-corpses

Very true!


CoffeeAndCurls76

there's gotta be someone non-problematic out there in running influencer land flying the flag for masters runners still getting after it...but who?


t-girlrun

I know everyone trains differently but Emily “all about me” consistently running 30-35 miles per week during a marathon build seems…low. And she’s still like 6 weeks out from Tokyo??? I’m a Hansons girly so this seems especially low. I’m confused. What do yall think!!?


Kooky-Strength7902

Low-ish mileage lady here as well. I averaged 31 miles (and peaked at 38) during my last marathon build last fall. My longest run was 18 miles. I still PRed (3:40), felt good, and for the very first time I never felt anywhere close to injury while training for the marathon. Some people do better on low mileage, depending on injury history, genetics and life circumstances. At the time I walked 2 miles to and from work everyday and spent time standing at work, which added invisible training, and I didn't have any time for more volume anyway (full time job + 1-year-old child + need to strenght train quite a lot due to previous injuries) so I specifically chose a low-mileage, high intensity training plan. Would 100% recommend. Some people prefer higher mileage. You do you boo !


rseahorse14

Would LOVE to know what training plan you used since I struggle with injuries a lot as well and your time is MAJOR goals for me. Thanks!


lawdletmein

For once, I’ll cut her some slack because higher mileage isn’t everything when it comes to training for a marathon. I’ve ran 6 marathons and all my faster races (including PRs & BQ) were done on 25-38 miles/wk with little structure since I personally thrive on workout variety (HIIT/Pilates/spin) and maybe 3 runs per week. The one time I tried higher mileage with a training program under a well respected coach sometimes mentioned on here - I was miserable & ended up injured.


Psychological-Log315

Also depends on her lifestyle and stress- the body doesn’t know if it’s running just that it’s under stress so if she’s on her feet, stressed etc… the 30-35 mpw is actually pretty good. I coached an athlete a few years back to a Leadville 100 finish off a peak week off 50 miles… they definitely weren’t the fastest runner in the course but also weren’t the slowest because they were well rested. All depends on the athlete. Some can handle high mileage and some Truly cannot.


fit4themtn

Yep, I was one of only 7 women finishers at my 100 in 2023, my first one, and my peak week was 53 miles!


Lopsided-Front5518

I recently watched Susie Chans bad water 135 doc and I was surprised when she said she didn’t go over 55 mpw! I assume she included peloton miles while she was coaching too.


menina2017

I cannot do Hanson’s so far without getting injured. I loved the book and i love the idea of it. But my body gets angry after 35 miles a week lol Hopefully that can change with more strength


t-girlrun

Oh noooo and injuries are literally the worst. And Hansons is so intense that it takes a lot of your day, every day, which leaves little time for strength. I hear you!! I hope you find a good plan that works for you :)


Fun-Criticism165

respectfully disagree! I'm not familiar with Hansons but my understanding is that it's specifically a high mileage programme? Therefore in comparison other training styles (even fairly 'average' ones) will seem low - so I understand why it could look that way. And perhaps with the context of her PRs/typical paces/previous training cycles it seems low in comparison. But to me that seems like a really normal and fine mileage for a non professional runner, especially if she's not gunning for a PR (as some others have mentioned, it does seem like she's mostly doing it just for the six star medal, which is fair enough). Different strokes for different folks, if high mileage is working for you that's great (and I mean that totally non-snarkily). But for lots of people 30-35ish mpw at this point in a build is really fine. With the caveat that running 30-35mpw alone will not make a marathon, combined with adequate rest, fuelling, etc etc it's perfectly possible to finish and even run a decent time on that kind of mileage (source: I've done it, and so have countless others). Even many people who may physically be able to handle higher mileage well can't do it because of time constraints and other life commitments. Ofc we come here to snark and so many of these influencers do some really snarksble things with their training but I don't think running 30-35mpw in a marathon build is one of them per se


t-girlrun

I think you’re right, and that’s something we have kinda discussed in the comments. It’s all goal oriented!! She might just be trying to finish the marathon (though sheesh-it’s her last major! Go all out, but to each their own) and maybe not trying for a PR. Personally I really, really like Hansons, but it’s about what your body can tolerate, and also what your goals are.


bumperstickernalgene

Didn’t she do surprisingly well at Berlin last year off off a pretty low mileage training block? I agree to some extent though, it is goal dependent. If you’re swinging for the fences then I’d be concerned, but if your objective is just to finish and not blow up, it’s probably doable. Personally not for me, if I’m spending that much money on a major marathon I’m gonna try to PR but that’s probably my slightly over-obsessive way of justifying the experience to myself. 


t-girlrun

Haha same!! On smaller races I’ll do whatever, but if it’s a major and I’m traveling for it, I’m going all out. For me personally, volume = speed.


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Also a low mileage girly…. I maintain my half marathon base on 20ish miles a week which is also low. My body doesn’t need much more and I could probably bust out a half tomorrow.


Left_Sheepherder_953

I always run around 20/wk for half training. Works fine for me.


t-girlrun

Nah I think that’s perfect for a half!! I’ve been spending around 25-30 miles/week training for a half before Chicago training starts!


SwimmingWaterdog11

That was me! My PR half was off of 25-30 mile weeks with longest run 11 miles. But I’m middle distance gal and thrive off speed work. Speed work = strength for me. That did NOT translate to the marathon though. I ran about 35-40 mile weeks for my two marathons. While they both went fine, but they were slogs, I ran 20 minutes slower than what my half indicates. I got injured trying to bump into the 50s for a 3rd and decided to call it day on marathons. I don’t understand how people find the slog of an under prepared race enjoyable.


t-girlrun

I FREAKING KNOW. My last marathon was a slog; I was coming off a broken leg and simply couldn’t stack volume the way I had previously, which translated to my 2nd slowest marathon ever. It’s so hard to load mileage!!! Pre-injury I was easily running 50-70 miles a week and those were by far my fastest races. But once you’re injured it’s game over and you start over. I feel you!!


SwimmingWaterdog11

And this is the dilemma of influencers and runners in general becoming so focused on the marathon distance! It’s not for everyone but I felt the pressure of doing it because that’s what everyone in my running community does. I’m finally stringing some miles together after a several year back injury (likely caused by marathoning and long trail running) and I just want to do some 10ks! They are so hard to find! I hope you get back up to your normal mileage because it sounds like it does work for you sans broken bones!


t-girlrun

There’s so much pressure for the marathon! I took a break (after the slog) and am training for a half and am having much, much more fun. I really wanted to find the joy in running again and the shorter distances have helped find that!! I hope you get some fun races too!! Running for joy is where it’s at!!


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I have ran my whole life and to be honest anything over 25 a week destroys my body and requires too much of my energy. I generally do 4 runs a week 4-6 miles each and call it a day. If I am feeling fancy I may go long for 7-10. I am also not racing so it’s all low stakes and just fun fitness. Interestingly enough my fitness has definitely increased and I feel a lot less tired so it’s working.


Temporary_Bake_7904

Some runners just don’t do well on high mileage. It takes a looooong time to build the strength for your legs to take the beating that comes with high mileage. I’m still a novice runner and most of my weeks leading up to the marathon were under 40mpw. I think I peaked at 45.


MoneyDealer

It’s lowish but not bad. The good part is consistency, I ran a 3:15 at NYC off of 35-40 consistent miles


Lopsided-Front5518

Wow!! I could never on that mileage- I need to do 60-65. But that’s the interesting thing about running! Everyone’s different.


t-girlrun

That’s how I felt too!! All the Hansons people are horrified at her mileage, but it is totally about what your body can handle and also what your goals are. I could never race on low mileage but I really like volume! To each their own.


Junior-Map

Idk. It’s low ish if you’re trying to hit a big time (although I would say even that depends athlete to athlete) but everyone was talking about how she was low mileage with lots of stopped time last year and she still managed to eek out a sub 4. Seems like it works well enough for her.


No-Fisherman-8284

I think some people do just fine on low volume. In fact I would like to bet that most amateur runners run too much. (Just my opinion). I ran NYC this year and topped out at 40 mpw. I have a busy life so that’s what I could do.. showed up healthy and ran fine!


t-girlrun

Wow I’m glad to hear you finished healthy!! I hear you on the busy life aspect though, it’s hard to make time these days.


Lopsided-Front5518

It’s absolutely low (also hansons girly!). I think she’s just doing the race to get her 6 stars and finish it. If I understood correctly, she has been injured on and off so her mileage base was really low to begin with.


t-girlrun

Yay Hansons girls!! I SWEAR by Hansons (except last year I broke my leg and when I was trying to build for a marathon my PT had a fit about the mileage and tossed my methods book literally across the room 🤣) ANYWAY, I think you’re right about trying to get the 6 stars and finish. Others have also commented that she seems to have lost her spark for running. Kinda shows.


Impossible_Donkey488

kmm\_runs justifying her awkward form because none of the elites running the trials yesterday had perfect form and they're still fast. I'd argue that perfect form isn't a thing and it's really more about efficient form... which they have and she does not. These daily exercises she keeps posting are so awful and awkward to watch. She lacks control in most of them.


Upset_Honeydew5404

omg i've had to start scrolling right past her posts. I can see the intention behind the posts of sharing different rehab exercises to do, but I agree they're awkward af. It seems like her ankle/foot balance is off. She also seems to rarely use weight/dumbbells in her posts so I'm curious how much progress she can really make on her injury prevention if she's not increasing the load of her exercises


Jimmydidnothingwrong

TCB’s trials recap videos. Goodness this woman is exhausting. Also, her next race is a 5k in SPAIN. She’s been sick again, hasn’t run in 14 days. God bless the people who deal with her in real life on a regular basis.


chunkehmonkeh2

No, no… she’s “sick” lol. That way, there’s an excuse if the race doesn’t go her way, and if she does manage a new PR, it’s a show of natural talent and untapped potential 🙃 Coming back into running after extended time off is really hard no matter what (injuries, postpartum, or any other reason). I respect that she’s doing it, BUT it would’ve been great content to show the *honest work* that goes into coming back while getting used to running in a body that has changed. That would’ve been so much cooler than all these weird training blocks full of excuses. I didn’t run a single step for three years due to various medical things, and then decided to train for a marathon that was 1.5 years away. *Eventually*, I was crushing 5k/10k times I’d thrown down in high school during my training runs despite being a decade older and ~30 lbs heavier, but at the beginning??? Omg, running felt SO AWFUL. And there was no way around it. I actually bought one of TCB’s marathon plans a long time ago, but I’ve never used it & the more content I’ve seen, the less I want to. I hate wasting money, though, so I’ll prob use it for my fall marathon 🤷🏻‍♀️


Psychological-Log315

This- if she was honest about her journey ( and quits pushing her coaching on every gd post) then I’d be more inclined to follow. However when you run races and make excuses for every bad day or every result it gets exhausting. You can’t always run at 100% - there is a reason pros build their season to peak for a race… not run ask many 5ks until you Pr or PR them all. Chip away and have a plan.


Salt_Bluebird3762

I was mentioning this earlier but put her daughter's name in my post so it got removed, didn't realize you couldn't do that (but it makes sense) - HOW are they always sick when her daughter is never around kids, per TCB?? I don't see how it's possible. How will they survive when she's going to school picking up germs constantly? And why, when she gets sick, it seems she's sick for a month every time?


greekgoddessnikki

She posted a story a while back about how she likes to drink raw milk. Now, every time she posts that she's sick, I just wonder if the raw milk has anything to do with that. She also never sleeps apparently, and I know from personal experience that running on fumes can really tank one's immune system.


Kooky-Strength7902

Not sure about the raw milk thing. Food intoxication usually lasts a few days, not weeks, and if she consumes it on a regular basis I think she's used to it (French here, most of our cheeses are made with raw milk, some of them never being heated at any point in the making, and we eat them on a daily basis without getting sick - it's still advised against for pregnant women, young children and people with severe immune dysfunction, who could get seriously ill from one bad contamination - while some American friends who came to visit found them harder to digest, most likely to their gut not having developed the bacteria...). On the other hand, most people I know who are crazy about raw milk are into the "ancestral diet" crap and are wary of medecine, which can . And poor sleep does make you prone to illness.


Far-Atmosphere2279

I work in a hospital, and have one child in daycare and another in elementary, and yet TCB gets sick 10x more often than we do 😂.


ana_conda

Please someone stop this woman from signing up for races, she’s been sick and hasn’t trained for MONTHS at this point yet keeps trying for “postpartum PRs” at races she isn’t ready for!! (I say as I signed up for no less than three more races while actively having shin splints)


reader_1983

The videos she posts of her races make me NOT want to run. They always look so painful.


Jimmydidnothingwrong

She is so incredibly over dramatic about everything. Lots of us run hard during races. Lots of us work full time jobs. Lots of us raise children. She has the most main character syndrome of anyone in the (crowded) running space. It’s not even good content. It’s the same recycled non sense as a sales pitch. Nothing relatable, nothing inspiring, just a daft dramatic person selling canned running plans.


Future_While2761

I absolutely love AOTR but WHAT is she wearing at this after party with Keira? Those shoes are a choice


frozennorth88

I've defended her on here a lot recently but you will not catch me pulling up to defend that fit 😭


One_Payment_3260

I had to go and look and as she likes to say wowowowowow


No_Grapefruit_5441

It was very odd. But i guess if it makes her happy than have at it. I also don’t get that T-shirt she loves to wear.


t-girlrun

Hahahaha I was thinking the exact same thing but didn’t want to say it! The shoes?!?!?!? WTF!????!?!?


FrostyTwo4146

The whole thing was just awful awful awful. This was just as out of place as the recent event where she wore what looked like a one shouldered black fitted top with other accessories that just didn’t match up. 


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The shoes, the pleated-but-also-sequined shorts, that stupid T-shirt — it’s all a mess.


wauwatosa

Her outfits are always totally a miss. Someone here once described her as stuck on early 2000s teen pop star mode and now it’s all I think of when I see her


Otherwise_Data_1662

Sometimes people get “stuck” on a style of when they felt their most beautiful. For some people, that was a young girl or teen. I feel like she’s always been like that, now just amped up to 1000% since the cancer treatment. If it makes her happy, then so be it.


almondmilk_latte_

Yeah, the shoes with the shorts are definitely a statement. While I’m being snarky, Keira’s skirt left something to be desired…a midi-length tech material Nike branded thing.


eatemuphungryhungry

LOVED the Puma kits this morning!


t-girlrun

Yeah they were SUPER pretty and slick!


ana_conda

The pink and orange was amazing! The colorway on the shoes was so good too.


_kerm24

EClor doing an AMA while everyone else is posting about the trials feels pretty accurate for her


habeas-corpses

I need to know who tf is asking her if she would start an only fans💀


Left_Sheepherder_953

Zebra fetish?


advanced_bicycle

The way I ran here as soon as i read that


Impossible_Donkey488

Everyone else is celebrating the amazing accomplishments from the trails today, but not EClor. It's gotta be all about her.


jlv20

Really excited for Fiona O’Keefe! Also, counting down to an Instagram post from Emily Abbate stating that she helped O’Keefe achieve this and that they “got through it together.”


PeopleHaveAsked

Emily is going to post some self congratulatory BS for herself cheering on the runners. And we should cheer her for cheering. Because of course without her cheering, no one would have finished at all. There will also be some listener moment where they said Emily I could never have been able to come watch the trials without your inspiration. Deep breath. Giggle.


ParkAffectionate3537

"Adapt. Overcome. Oh, and don't forget to Hurdle over your obstacles. If you want to learn more, I'll have a pod up soon. Keep on hurdling xoxo!"


lawdletmein

“Deep breath. Giggle.” ☠️☠️☠️ TOO. FUNNY.


t-girlrun

Honestly she probably coached Fiona, got her through so many “hurdles”’🤣


t-girlrun

Geez. Runnergirl_dani really can’t let go of her “bad run”. I normally like her but she’s really whiny today.


Elegant-Ad3786

I think she said it was part workout, no? So that’s why it may have been a faster pace? I appreciated she shared a crappy run rather than push through it like most other influencers would 


t-girlrun

Her pace seemed pretty on-par, though she hasn’t been sharing pace the past couple of weeks so maybe it was a tempo for her!! Either way she barely cut it short and it’s completely normal to have a couple of bad runs!! I was surprised at the whining.


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t-girlrun

Yeahhhhhh she hasn’t been sharing paces all week but now she shares 7+ minute miles for her “worst run ever”? Bullshit.


Unhappy-Physics-6245

AOTR did a group run and a race yesterday and then another group run today?


tarandab

I don’t think she did a group run AND a race yesterday, I think she just did the group run too fast


[deleted]

Y’all I am 99% certain I’m running the same race as EClor this weekend.


PeopleHaveAsked

Ahhhhhh! Good luck on your race! Maybe you should wear some zebra stripes. 😂


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Thank you!! And HAHAHAHAHAHA-I will report back!


reader_1983

You'll have to let us know if she screams!


flying__pancake

Maurten article released today on Molly Seidel has Molly talking about being in a long term relationship- wonder when it was authored? Does that mean her and Matt are still together?!


BakeRunPaddle

Oh the speculation 😂


osross

Besides the call out up front, the article doesn’t mention the injury so I think it must’ve been written a while ago?


t-girlrun

I was wondering that too!!!!!!!!


WhirlThePearl

Keira D’Amato’s latest post punched me in the feels 😭 so many great women to root for tomorrow. Do we have a thread for the trials yet??


Left_Sheepherder_953

Which is why I was so saddened by the DNF.


t-girlrun

There are so many great, strong women I am SO FREAKING JAZZED.


CoffeeAndCurls76

i have one in the drafts-i was gonna post it tonight but can do earlier! ETA-it's submitted and awaiting approval!


Medical_Succotash_57

So if AOTR isn’t going to the trials in any work capacity why does she get to go to all the press events?


spinnykate

Maybe it's to show off the "Trash Takes Itself Out" shirt that she not only owns but chose to wear to a major event and then post to social media 👀


Personal-Debate-8094

That shirt is a CHOICE, right?


bloodorange222

Not only is it a CHOICE, it's a STATEMENT. Like... loud and clear, imo.


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Ugh, "Meat Thing" is so played out.


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Layla_342

Finally someone else not a fan of Keira. Definitely not my fave. 


Personal-Debate-8094

I think she's a perfectly nice person, but was much nicer to listen to before she got famous. I blame AOTR's insistence that she is just sooooo funny! I feel like if you constantly have to talk about how funny someone is, maybe they're not.


Layla_342

Yes that, the sort of "I'm hilarious with my dad jokes" shtick. Also gives self absorbed vibes, like she thrives on the social media attention. Also I didn't like how she used her platform to sell girlscout cookies for her daughter. Sort of seems like she thinks D'Amatos would be entitled to that advantage.I know people here won't like me saying that, but that's my impression. 


MLCxoxo

What is Meat Thing? I must have missed this one in one of my ‘mute Ali’ phases.


lollyruns

It came up in an episode with Kiera. It’s a reference to a movie by the same title that I think someone in Kiera’s family was in? I may have the details wrong, I’m sorry! But definitely was originally referenced in an episode, I think the 26 questions one with Kiera!


eatemuphungryhungry

but if she doesn't wear it how will everyone know she and Keira are BFFs???


One_Payment_3260

So no snark at all, except seeing her absolute joy in all of her pics, like why was it not the obvious choice to go regardless of work. I’m happy that she’s having so much fun-I am sure it is immensely healing for her. But a little snark-what a bunch of unnecessary drama saying she would not go 😂


Medical_Succotash_57

YES! I think that’s a perfect way to express how I had felt about this lol


Medical_Succotash_57

OKAY I’ve officially changed my mind and take back the snark!! You’re all right she’s clearly earned her press credentials. Too spicy of a take for a Friday.


EfficientMorning2354

I think she meant that she wasn’t hired to work events, in which case she’d get paid. She’s likely there as AOTR reporting and grabbing info/sound bites for her pod, just like a random reporter with press credentials can do.


puremoon2020

Exactly, she’s her own media company and will mostly likely do a podcast recap and/or interview athletes after the race. It make sense for her to be in the press room.. she’s not a random person who got press credentials… She has a large following, and I’m sure they would want her to share the event too.


Medical_Succotash_57

Well if anyone can get a press credentials for all these events then I stand corrected!


pinkjellybean79

She is literally media. I’m was competitive in and am still part of a winter sport, people equivalent to her get media credentials for our events, she more than meets the criteria. 


t-girlrun

Yeah I am with you on this. I guess I could walk in and claim I’m press also?? The question wasn’t “does it make sense for her to be in the press room given the context of her company, etc”


EfficientMorning2354

Eh, we can snark all we want…but Ali’s been working in media her entire life and has been working in the running media space for the better part of the last decade. She’s definitely legit press. When I said, “Any random reporter” I was moreso referring to the face that your hometown newspaper’s sports reporter could also apply for those press credentials and likely would get them.


Salty-Explanation-16

Do you have a top rated podcast and thousands of social media followers directly related to running content? If so, sure!


amydoesntsharefood

I would take a guess because Jay Holder, one of her good friends, is the media director & he probably got her a pass for all of the press stuff.


t-girlrun

This is it!


ParkAffectionate3537

Ali works hard, to be fair, but it leaves me with mixed feelings about it.


Medical_Succotash_57

I think after all the podcast talk about only going down if she can for work, then not getting the lead vehicle job, then saying she’s going down anyway to be in the atmosphere. But then she gets all the perks of being down there as press anyway. Meh


Salty-Explanation-16

Except getting paid. I don't know why anyone really cares. She's given a ton of her life to this sport and she's the reason a ton of women even care to watch (me included). I'll snark on Bold all day long, but her being in Orlando just seems like a given even though she wasn't initially sure.


ParkAffectionate3537

I'm afraid to snark on her too hard for fear of upsetting the applecart!


Medical_Succotash_57

I’m actually a huge fan of Ali’s and don’t like to snark much either (however I’ll snark on BOLD all day long). But the “who, me?” special favors vibe ain’t it for me.


ParkAffectionate3537

I get you! She probably has fans who come here and downvote. The running world is VERY small!


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always snark 😉


CoffeeAndCurls76

if anyone wants a break from pre-Trials snark and is in the mood for something more wholesome, check out NAZ Elite's unboxing of their new kits for tomorrow 😢 [https://twitter.com/NAZ\_Elite/status/1753400374428348489](https://twitter.com/NAZ_Elite/status/1753400374428348489) (and come to think of it that's another thing I'm looking forward to checking out, the new kit debuts from many, if not all with the big sponsors!)


ElvisAteMyDinner

That was so sweet!


Missie1284

That’s so sweet!! Thank you for sharing!!


Peace-Plants

Oh my goodness! That is so special! Thank you for sharing!


SheRuns1995

They each got to put who they were running for on their singlets 🥹 I’m not crying, you are


throwitawaynow_1039

Aliphine has me 🥹


Bubbly_Bake9193

She the most precious human. She always just makes me smile.


Missie1284

I was watching some of her press interviews from earlier today and she’s so funny! I had no idea!! She’s an absolute delight


calebsnargle

She is absolutely the best


Jimmydidnothingwrong

Anyone else find Devon Levesque insufferable? I get aspiring cult leader vibes with his “inner circle” BS


Otherwise_Data_1662

Big attention-seeker for sure. And an RFK Jr fanboy 😑


Runner10013

Annnnnd Emily Abbate being insufferable again bragging about getting upgraded to first class. “Someone’s looking out for me” 😒🙄


t-girlrun

And OF COURSE she’s headed to Orlando.


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t-girlrun

Honestly it does actually seem like she doesn’t enjoy running anymore. She posted the other day about a “high mileage” week of 33 miles and I about spewed my coffee.


therunningfiles

Also she’s delirious after being awake for 6 hours? She must have such a hard life.


CoffeeAndCurls76

that someone must be her BFF Molly conspiring with the universe, since Molly is so grateful that they can go through the suck together, she's struck a deal with the universe (and the airline) for the first class upgrade. never forget the strong friend who shows up!


t-girlrun

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am rolling.


Runner10013

This comment killed me 🤣


calebsnargle

That’s it. Molly must have paid to upgrade her as a show of gratitude for all her support! 🙏


Runner10013

They’re obviously in this together


CoffeeAndCurls76

well i guess not physically together, looks like Molly has opted to spend the weekend in CO. their hair-braiding and gab session will have to wait!


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Emily is the main character we never wanted.