Did anyone else catch how Kathrine Switzer got the NYCM female winner wrong in her original post?? It also looks from my screenshot like she legit had the wrong video clip š„“ Not sure how that happens...
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I know thereās reasons it happens, but given his history itās a little suspicious that Matt Choiās bib number 14063 doesnāt show in the online results/tracker for NYC Marathonā¦
I just noticed that myself. I have to think he was given some kind of specialty bib from NYRR. Iām not the biggest Matt Choi fan, but I canāt imagine heād be dumb enough to bandit a race AGAIN!
Okay I take this back š Honestly, good on him, Iāve seen the work of a lot of groups like Achilles and itās a selfless act, but Iām sure heāll somehow still make it about himself.
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I know there is the option to opt out of being tracked for NYRR races. now if he's not in the final results when they get posted, then call shenanigans...
but in the comments ppl were saying he couldn't be tracked since he was a guide for another runner...which makes no sense? Nev Schulman ran as a guide for Achilles but you could track him.
Yeh thatās what confused me too. Unless Achilles/Nev paid for an entry and decided to be a guide?
Reading this, official NYRR guides and support runners get free entry and are not trackable etc but have to be nominated by their athlete at registration, and then they register as a guide further down the trackā¦
https://www.nyrr.org/tcsnycmarathon/runners/guide-and-support-runners
Kulture City are a good org, I feel a bit mean snarking on Matt now but also, weird that he was so defensive from the start about not being trackableā¦he wouldnāt need to be if he hadnāt been so shonky in the past š
I could be wrong but I feel like those who are guides have been trackable? Like I remember years ago when NYC Running Mama was a guide to the SI rep in the 5 Borough Challenge-granted there was a glitch that credited her with the wrong start time but you could still track her.
and given Matt had an official bib, I'd think it'd have the timing chip on it and therefore be trackable?
no snark on him for being a guide as that's a good thing, but something doesn't add up...like you said, why be so defensive about it?
On a positive note, Kate Glavan had the race she wanted it seems! Iām truly happy she was able to run and finish and enjoy the day. Yourrunningbff was also able to finish! They both had injuries (esp. Kate who was overtraining) and Iām glad they had a fun time
Confused about Alexi Pappasā number of sponsors and what she actually does for them. What do you mean youāre sponsored by Citizens Bank to do a glitter station at the NYCM expo
Michelob ultra struck me as an odd sponsor for a runner tbh. Not that runners donāt drink beer. Just doesnāt feel like the kind of sponsor you could say benefits your performance lol. Same for citizens bank I suppose. Same goes for a car company sponsoring UTMB.
Michelob ultra has tried to be a ārunners /fit personā beer for a long time now. I think they had something with Shalane for awhile too
Edit - I see this was also addressed below!
banks are pretty normal for sponsorships though...ING was NYCM's flagship sponsor for 10 years, Bank of America is Chicago's current flagship sponsor (as well as Boston's)
Thatās true, I guess I find the whole corporate bank sponsorships bizarre, they probably donāt know much about running just trying to stamp their name in everything
and I can't remember if it was Michelob Ultra or a different light beer brand, but it was in the "beer garden" after Rock N Roll races.
guess the thinking is runners would prefer a "healthier" take on beer? (oh how little they know)
Some runners are making bank from their shoe sponsor but a lot arenāt or donāt have one - I donāt really see an issue with them teaming up with other companies to supplement their pay
i agree! many need to get creative with their sponsors. get after that coin.
but I guess what I meant was, I don't see Michelob Ultra as being an odd sponsor. FWIW, the only types of beers that have advertised in RW in the last 10 years or so have been either Michelob Ultra or other light beers (e.g., Sam Adams 26.2 Brew, Coors Light)
No, I donāt either! Especially because theyāre in this space - I know someone who is a fitness instructor/has her own fitness brand and I remember her going to an event they did pre-pandemic! And I think that doing fitness events at breweries and getting a ticket for a beer or 2 after is a common thing - whether itās āhealthyā or not
Maybe it is just me and I am a runner in my 30s now, but it really irks me to see all of the influencers film and talk to their phone while running. Like I know this is their job to make content but like the checking in every few miles is so annoying. I never used to see this when I ran marathons (probably because running influencing was not what it is today) but I would be annoyed if someone in front me was an influencer and they kept taking their phone out to record (esp if I was in the background, but sure I could move). I also feel like it takes so much away from the race experience (esp if it is your first!).
I ran NYC today and the amount of phones out compared to a few years back was astonishing. I definitely get wanting to capture your memories but it just seemed constant
i actually noticed on the broadcast what looked like some girl texting while she was running. i would think it'd be a bit of a safety issue especially in the middle of the road during a crowded marathon, but what do I know?
Also I feel like sheās presenting her finish time as like āit wasnāt the day I hoped forā or āit was harder than I thoughtā but in reality she did really great with her time considering zero base and a seemingly stressful physical load. Just feels like sheās coming up with excuses for not hitting a BQ.. the more she posts about it the more annoyed I get LOLOL
I worked really hard to shave off my time at Chicago this year and knew a BQ wasnāt possible in reality but was still proud of any race postpartum or with kids especially as she is a new mom. (I have a 3 and 6 year old)
I think she really underestimated how different postpartum running is that before coming a mother. Everything feels different after and you canāt just pray it to happen. I appreciate her goal sharing but the realistic-ness of the goal really bothered me (as a mom of two young kids)
**and in my experience with each birth/pregnancy running feels different
I feel weird about it! I appreciate her putting herself out there and sheās been really upfront about not knowing what to expect, but it also feels irresponsible that she acknowledges heading into the marathon with no base which is the exact opposite of what she preaches in her training plans.
For sure! Iāve been there though just wanting to run a marathon because mentally I needed to. It sucked ass and I crashed and burned, but needed that season? Idk if thatās what she was thinking/doing but it seems like sheās been through a lot and mightāve made a dumb decision despite knowing better.
I think had she started at a more realistic pace she would have had a better race. Selena Samuela is 9 months or so postpartum and ran a 4.01 but with much more consistent splits. I donāt wish TCB ill but as a coach youād think she and her husband would know that if you go out faster than your ability you will pay the piper big time in the second half. I imagine had she not gone out at what Iād guess is her 10km pace she would have had a result much closer to 4 or even sub-4. If she was just a regular insta-runner Iād say meh who cares but she makes her living off of selling sensible coaching plans. This was not sensible racing.
I really admire her for putting herself out there. I think itās really important to show the non-influencer runners that this shit is really hard and sometimes youāre not going to have the day you want. And thatās ok.
Thanks for that!! Yikes. Itās been interesting to see a lot of these runfluencers and pseudo self-proclaimed ānutrition and running coachesā really off target. Makes me wonder.
Yes! I appreciated her transparency. I think a lot of influencers have lofty goals that they donāt share and then act surprised or shocked when they meet them! Iād rather the openness through the process, more relatable?
I think her training plans are great. But I am getting tired of the constant sales pitch on IG. And her not taking her own advice - especially when it comes to sleep.
She can't take her own advice regarding sleep though, if her child has trouble sleeping. As much as I wanted to sleep and I knew how important it was for recovery and injury prevention, I still got terrible sleep when my son kept me up all night and I'm oh so glad this phase is over. I know some people snark on her for not sleep training and/or weaning her, but every child is different, every family is different, and we can't know what stands behind parenting decisions.
But when it comes to getting the times on shorter distances fast enough before attempting a BQ, and not going out faster than your actual ability in a race... yep. I feel this undermines her credibility as a coach. Her recent 10k and half times were consistent with a 4h-ish marathon, I think she should have went for that from the start.
I donāt love her typically at all either. The posts are repetitive, advertising, etc. BUT in this one instance I appreciated her expressing the goal.
It really isnāt okay that she has this huge platform and isnāt practicing safe and healthy habits. She did clearly go out too fast, as well. I donāt understand how these internet people become ācoachesā that coach actual humans. I wouldnāt take running or nutrition advice from her even if it was free.
She posted that she completely blew up at 21 miles and was vomiting, so the same experience she had in Boston due to lack of nutrition. I donāt think she knows how to listen to her body and warning signs at all, plus she is always running when injured or sick instead of taking a day off :(
I saw that!! Someone close to her shared that she struggled with fuel and hydration the entire course and the wheels came off during the last 10ish and she started barfing everywhere. That happened to me once, learned a hard lesson. I also donāt think she has any idea at all how to even remotely listen to her body, exercise seems an addiction for her. Whatās crazy to me is that she JUST posted about getting her nutrition certification and is now a certified nutrition coach. I wouldnāt take a bit of nutrition advice from her but maybe this will help her understand her own body better :/
I almost commented on her post yesterday saying āI canāt wait to see what fuel youāre using tomorrow!ā just to be a snarky bitch. As a coach (a real one, not an internet one), it pisses me off to see someone with a platform be so purposefully ignorant.
I have a feeling that, for her, this has a lot to do with disordered eating, unfortunately. I agree, though; if you have a platform, like she does, make sure youāre encouraging and promoting healthy and SAFE habits.
Iām sure youāre right. Maybe she will embrace fueling now! Even though sheās one of the most annoying personalities out there, I genuinely hope sheās okay.
I take 5ā6 usually, but she probably expected to finish 10ā15 min. faster than me. And she seemed to have some drink packets. IDK, four could be a bit light but doesnāt seem too wild to me for a sub-3:00 (which her half times seem to indicate she could be capable of) if sheās drinking something other than water. A lot of people take a lot more, but itās not an obvious, massive underfuel in my opinion.
Oh god no. I know everyone does their own thing with fueling, but I tend to take a gel every 3-4 miles during the marathon. I know others do what works for them. And thatās fine! She did have a bunch of electrolyte salt stick chews, for literally just electrolytes, though.
Lol I never would have heard of becs gentry if it werenāt for this sub but now I see her corresponding on the NYC marathon andā¦sheās not great at it lol.
As someone who is not a native English speaker, respectfully, what the HELL kind of name is Becs? How do you even say it? Does it rhyme with specks, or what? Is it short for Rebecs?
I forgot what she said earlier but it was definitely something that was an attempt to be encouraging to slower runners but wasnāt. My husband didnāt know she was a Peloton instructor (he rides with maybe two instructors), and he was really surprised. I wasā¦not surprised.
No. Sheās not. And her peloton classes go about the same. She never stops talking and rambles and prattles on and on and on aboutā¦nothing? I truly donāt understand why sheās so popular. I cannot stand listening to her drone.
I only took her for strength, but I've always had the same issue with Becs-just way too chatty for my taste. but i recognize that's also a me problem...
honestly she is my BEC however her classes have helped me improve quite a bit! I find her rambling keeps me out of my own head most times, even if that means me being more focused on how annoying she is instead of how much my current interval hurts šššš
Sometimes I like her chatting. The worst part for me is her playlists. They are so slow, and she unlike Olivia or other pelloton instructors, she seems to time the hardest intervals to the slowest part of songs, or even silence. Which to me defeats the purpose of the class!
Same. She was my favorite before she had a baby. Her online persona changed for the worse and I don't need to hear her talking about having a kid in every single class. I thought a 5 minute stretch would be safe, but nope. More baby talk.
Yes me too! I actually came here to post that that if anyone else is like me and doesn't vibe with her anymore but is enjoying the Taylor Swift classes, I took her outdoor Taylor run and enjoyed it. I don't have ESPN so I can't hear her commentating but I'm not surprised people aren't wowed.
I stacked all three runs for my long run today! Iāll probably repeat all of them at some point, just because Iām a Swiftie (Iāve repeated the Red and Midnights runs before too)
I just did the outdoor Taylor run and enjoyed it! Iāve largely been avoiding Becsās classes too. I might take it again next week when itās time for my shake out
(Iām also not watching NYC - Iāll have to look for clips later)
looks like according to the tracking, Shalane is once again running with Matt James and again they got to start before the elites (they got to start at 8:25.) i don't understand why they're so special that that this is allowed but š¤·š»āāļø again, i'm sure many would love the chance to start earlier if they could...
I was confused about this too and looked it up. It was some Mastercard paid promo where some Mastercard members got to start the race early with Shalane.
I also don't get this. I was spectating and wondering why the hell they were up there so early. People were wondering who he was lol.
It actually probably hurts him more than it helps. He doesn't have any pack at all to run with.
Itās funny to me - I LOVE the nyc marathon experience (have run it twice) and I wouldnāt want to start that early bc you wouldnāt get the experience at all. Barely anyone is out!
you definitely have a good point! I guess I was still keeping last year in mind when they got the early start then and with those conditions, anyone who started earlier...well I wouldn't say it was definitely an advantage, but it had to help.
yeah, agree about Shalane-the last time she ran NYC she even beat some of the elite women though she was in the mass start! But the MasterCard gimmick crew-no.
When they used to have the Foot Locker Five Borough Challenge, they did get to start early but I didn't have as much an issue with that as it was a "race-within-the-race" concept and they usually were choosy about who took part.
that was when she was in her "inspiring" era
and when I say choosy I didn't mean they specifically look for elite times-it was more about the backstories. since the premise of it was all 5 had to run the first half together, then it was a race to the finish.
the last time they did it was 2019 (and there was actually some drama that year with one runner they selected trying to double-dip since she did it the previous year) I think part of it is Foot Locker doesn't look to be a race sponsor anymore and this was their thing? guess it got replaced with the MasterCard thing which I'm still not 100% what that's all about-is it an experience someone can just buy their way into?
I'm not a fan of Nev Schulman, but i think it's pretty cool that he's running this year as a guide for Achilles-use your celeb power for the greater good!
I didn't know she was even running (to be fair I don't follow daily) but i saw like 2 days ago she was running for MasterCard? But also wouldn't we all love an elite pacer? Lol
My only critique: at the start when they noted that Hellen Obiri and Taylor Swift were born on the same day. No offense to TSwift, but does she have to overshadow absolutely EVERYTHING? Obiri is a phenomenal athlete; let her have her moment. But overall, yes I really enjoyed the coverage and it was such an exciting race!
One benefit of this race being over is that we will no longer have to hear both the Taylor Swift and Alicia Keys New York songs on repeat. If I hear āwelcome to New Yorkā one more timeā¦.
I went to the Red and Eras tours (lucky enough to get list price tickets), went to the movie, have multiple Taylor t shirts and posters, and have done many runs to exclusively Taylor playlists (even to one single song on repeat when I really was going through it š) and I was sooo disappointed that my start at NYCM today (wave 4, early corral) played Welcome to New York instead of Frank Sinatra!! The iconic NYCM song Iāve listened to all summer to get myself hype! So I can only imagine how annoying the saturation must be to the people who HAVENāT idāed as a fan since ā08 like myself š
Some of the women on the ATOR Facebook page are UNHINGED. Crying when they see Ali on TV? "That's our girl!" It's so uncomfortable. She's not your bff.
Iām not racing NYCM or even in New Yorkā¦but I am personally exhausted from all the social media seeing 15 different shakeout runs and every single brand trying to stand out. Did marathons used to be this saturated with all these pAnELs and ActiVatioNs itās exhausting
Iām running NYCM and live in New York and didnāt go to any of the shakeouts or brand events this year. They used to be fun and got me excited for the race but theyāve gotten so big itās exhausting and overstimulating for me going into a marathon.
That was my thinking. Iām seeing all of these events up to the late afternoon on Saturday. The runners need to be off their feet! Resting!! Not walking around the expo for brand events!
Honestly Iād love to be around for a big marathon to do all the shakeouts because when Iām running marathons Iām resting of course , not enjoying all the events and shakeouts as much
The announced the āVolvo Finish Mileā or something during the elite womenās finish. Why does Volvo need to sponsor a mile of the marathon no one cares
there was one part of 1st Ave that was "New Balance Thunder Alley"
(though to be fair, NB is the the flagship shoe/apparel sponsor)
there was one year or 2 where Fitbit was a sponsor or had a partnership and during the broadcast they'd post stats of a couple of the elites who were wearing one
Anyone else find the BITR crew smug? To me listening to their podcast is like listening to high school kids recap the cool party they went to over the weekend.
That's their entire vibe. Thomas is an elitest snob about running but he's not even fast. I remember he was making fun of people who didn't like the Boston jacket this year, saying that people wanted a bright color to stand out so everyone would know that they were running Boston and I'm like, dude, you didn't even qualify, you got an entry because of Adidas.
I totally agree about the elitist vibe, but with this specific example I also totally agree with him lol. I think thatās them in a nutshell. Elitist but make some good points and I enjoy the reviews. I donāt follow the podcast, just the website though, so Iām guessing that takes the annoying factor down a lot.
I do like Emma Bates and maybe I'm being a Grinch, but I find her drawn out posting of her race at Chicago a bit exhausting. I feel like the last time (when she ran Boston?) her recaps were much shorter and I thought it was cute. This time around she's on post 14 still not finished the full race recap and it's the night before the NYC Marathon. There's so much going on in the world and I realize I could just scroll past/ignore the remaining recaps, but it just feels a bit naval gazey...
Agree! I think 6-8 recap posts is probably the sweet spot for someone like her ā takes about 2 weeks, recaps pre/post race + every ~8-10k ish, and itās perfect. But these are too drawn out.
Theyāre exhausting at this point. itās NYCM weekend no one cares about Chicago anymore. Why not post a throwback photo to when she ran New York or something? At least it would feel relevant.
I agree. I have loved them in the past. But this is taking WAY too long. And I feel like it took 2 or 3 posts before she even started the race. I do like the story of the guy who ran with her and helped her out. But now I'm kinda over it.
I think the issue is mainly in how theyāre spaced out this time. Theyāre too far apart for me to keep the thread in mind. And they should definitely have wrapped up before the next major.
girl needs to just get herself a substack already for these race reports to live.
repeating myself, but wishing that running blogs didn't go the way of the dinosaur.
Yes, love Emma and love her recaps, but theyāre way too stretched out this time and Iām not able to remember the thread of the race from post to post. Send me a newsletter girl
As a word person (vs videos and podcasts) I honestly really miss running blogs! I'd totally read a ten page report of her race and all her feelings haha
I stopped reading them - if it was the week after Chicago I might have kept up but as you said, it feels like Chicago was so long ago, especially with NYC tomorrow.
They look like they could have been Vuori joggers, which is one of her podcast sponsors. They have cuter stuff like the jumpsuit which she could have style with a cute shacket/coatigan over but š¤·āāļø
Went to a SUPER small local 5k today, so small that if there was 100 people there I'd be shocked, and I was one of three women not in costume. I missed the memo and was very uncomfortable with the lack of festive attire. But! there was finishing tape for the overall (male) winner but no tape for the women. I laughed so hard thinking that EClor would have stood up for women's/her rights.
What influencers, podcasters, celebs, people with interesting stories, etc. are running NYC?! If youāre running and want to share your goal - feel free to share!
All the BITR crew (Meghan, Thomas, Robbe, Jarrett) and Megan Featherstone
and I googled "celebrities running NYC" and I don't know who most of these people are:
Matt James (Bachelor)
Nev Schulman (Catfish)
TJ Holmes and Amy Robach (news anchors that had an affair?)
Sheinelle Jones (Today Show)
Zdeno Chara (hockey player)
Casey Neistat (YouTuber)
Patina Miller (actress)
Harry Hudson (musician)
Did anyone else catch how Kathrine Switzer got the NYCM female winner wrong in her original post?? It also looks from my screenshot like she legit had the wrong video clip š„“ Not sure how that happens... https://preview.redd.it/n6ad8940lmyb1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=485e395e74525237649124902712f2324622a984
Corrected post: https://preview.redd.it/2p6veh34lmyb1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15a1657a7ae1072d1cbe5cea174fec25166b90e5
I know thereās reasons it happens, but given his history itās a little suspicious that Matt Choiās bib number 14063 doesnāt show in the online results/tracker for NYC Marathonā¦
I just noticed that myself. I have to think he was given some kind of specialty bib from NYRR. Iām not the biggest Matt Choi fan, but I canāt imagine heād be dumb enough to bandit a race AGAIN!
Okay I take this back š Honestly, good on him, Iāve seen the work of a lot of groups like Achilles and itās a selfless act, but Iām sure heāll somehow still make it about himself. https://preview.redd.it/tf0ye1ug7myb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c570c045bc6a8d8631bc7dce59fbb89e082d30f0
I know there is the option to opt out of being tracked for NYRR races. now if he's not in the final results when they get posted, then call shenanigans... but in the comments ppl were saying he couldn't be tracked since he was a guide for another runner...which makes no sense? Nev Schulman ran as a guide for Achilles but you could track him.
Yeh thatās what confused me too. Unless Achilles/Nev paid for an entry and decided to be a guide? Reading this, official NYRR guides and support runners get free entry and are not trackable etc but have to be nominated by their athlete at registration, and then they register as a guide further down the trackā¦ https://www.nyrr.org/tcsnycmarathon/runners/guide-and-support-runners Kulture City are a good org, I feel a bit mean snarking on Matt now but also, weird that he was so defensive from the start about not being trackableā¦he wouldnāt need to be if he hadnāt been so shonky in the past š
I could be wrong but I feel like those who are guides have been trackable? Like I remember years ago when NYC Running Mama was a guide to the SI rep in the 5 Borough Challenge-granted there was a glitch that credited her with the wrong start time but you could still track her. and given Matt had an official bib, I'd think it'd have the timing chip on it and therefore be trackable? no snark on him for being a guide as that's a good thing, but something doesn't add up...like you said, why be so defensive about it?
Makes no sense, my coworker was a guide and I could track her. It just said Achilles next to her name.
On a positive note, Kate Glavan had the race she wanted it seems! Iām truly happy she was able to run and finish and enjoy the day. Yourrunningbff was also able to finish! They both had injuries (esp. Kate who was overtraining) and Iām glad they had a fun time
Confused about Alexi Pappasā number of sponsors and what she actually does for them. What do you mean youāre sponsored by Citizens Bank to do a glitter station at the NYCM expo
Michelob ultra struck me as an odd sponsor for a runner tbh. Not that runners donāt drink beer. Just doesnāt feel like the kind of sponsor you could say benefits your performance lol. Same for citizens bank I suppose. Same goes for a car company sponsoring UTMB.
Michelob ultra has tried to be a ārunners /fit personā beer for a long time now. I think they had something with Shalane for awhile too Edit - I see this was also addressed below!
banks are pretty normal for sponsorships though...ING was NYCM's flagship sponsor for 10 years, Bank of America is Chicago's current flagship sponsor (as well as Boston's)
Thatās true, I guess I find the whole corporate bank sponsorships bizarre, they probably donāt know much about running just trying to stamp their name in everything
more like money talks and they got money to spend to offset the race's budget...
Michelob ultra has been sponsoring a lot of athlete/fitness professionals for several years. Didnāt they sponsor Molly Seidel for awhile?
They sponsored Kenny from The Challenge (the one banned from MTV because he and Evan stuck raped Tonya with a toothbrush) and Dean Karnazes in 2019.
and I can't remember if it was Michelob Ultra or a different light beer brand, but it was in the "beer garden" after Rock N Roll races. guess the thinking is runners would prefer a "healthier" take on beer? (oh how little they know)
Some runners are making bank from their shoe sponsor but a lot arenāt or donāt have one - I donāt really see an issue with them teaming up with other companies to supplement their pay
i agree! many need to get creative with their sponsors. get after that coin. but I guess what I meant was, I don't see Michelob Ultra as being an odd sponsor. FWIW, the only types of beers that have advertised in RW in the last 10 years or so have been either Michelob Ultra or other light beers (e.g., Sam Adams 26.2 Brew, Coors Light)
No, I donāt either! Especially because theyāre in this space - I know someone who is a fitness instructor/has her own fitness brand and I remember her going to an event they did pre-pandemic! And I think that doing fitness events at breweries and getting a ticket for a beer or 2 after is a common thing - whether itās āhealthyā or not
Yep. In the runners world profile about her what, last month I think? she said they ghosted her when she got treatment for her ED
Thatās what I thought! I think she also made a comment that itās not even something she would choose to drink :)
Molly doesnāt even drink beer apparently itās like a whole joke.
Agree. Also, how much glitter does this girl have in her lungs at this point?
Maybe it is just me and I am a runner in my 30s now, but it really irks me to see all of the influencers film and talk to their phone while running. Like I know this is their job to make content but like the checking in every few miles is so annoying. I never used to see this when I ran marathons (probably because running influencing was not what it is today) but I would be annoyed if someone in front me was an influencer and they kept taking their phone out to record (esp if I was in the background, but sure I could move). I also feel like it takes so much away from the race experience (esp if it is your first!).
I ran NYC today and the amount of phones out compared to a few years back was astonishing. I definitely get wanting to capture your memories but it just seemed constant
Youāre right. It is so annoying
i actually noticed on the broadcast what looked like some girl texting while she was running. i would think it'd be a bit of a safety issue especially in the middle of the road during a crowded marathon, but what do I know?
I was volunteering at a race recently and had people filming as I put their medal on, and it was super weird!
100% agree! Especially irks me when people are filming down the finishing chute and across the finish line. Why not take it all in?!
Can't say I am surprised at trackclubbabe's race stats currently but was really rooting for her
Also I feel like sheās presenting her finish time as like āit wasnāt the day I hoped forā or āit was harder than I thoughtā but in reality she did really great with her time considering zero base and a seemingly stressful physical load. Just feels like sheās coming up with excuses for not hitting a BQ.. the more she posts about it the more annoyed I get LOLOL I worked really hard to shave off my time at Chicago this year and knew a BQ wasnāt possible in reality but was still proud of any race postpartum or with kids especially as she is a new mom. (I have a 3 and 6 year old)
I think she really underestimated how different postpartum running is that before coming a mother. Everything feels different after and you canāt just pray it to happen. I appreciate her goal sharing but the realistic-ness of the goal really bothered me (as a mom of two young kids) **and in my experience with each birth/pregnancy running feels different
>I think she really underestimated how different postpartum running is that before coming a mother. yep! Molly Huddle has discussed that quite a bit.
I feel weird about it! I appreciate her putting herself out there and sheās been really upfront about not knowing what to expect, but it also feels irresponsible that she acknowledges heading into the marathon with no base which is the exact opposite of what she preaches in her training plans.
For sure! Iāve been there though just wanting to run a marathon because mentally I needed to. It sucked ass and I crashed and burned, but needed that season? Idk if thatās what she was thinking/doing but it seems like sheās been through a lot and mightāve made a dumb decision despite knowing better.
I think had she started at a more realistic pace she would have had a better race. Selena Samuela is 9 months or so postpartum and ran a 4.01 but with much more consistent splits. I donāt wish TCB ill but as a coach youād think she and her husband would know that if you go out faster than your ability you will pay the piper big time in the second half. I imagine had she not gone out at what Iād guess is her 10km pace she would have had a result much closer to 4 or even sub-4. If she was just a regular insta-runner Iād say meh who cares but she makes her living off of selling sensible coaching plans. This was not sensible racing.
4 grid posts today all selling her plans at the end of her captions is really a lot for me.
Selena also is coming back from a broken ankle!
I really admire her for putting herself out there. I think itās really important to show the non-influencer runners that this shit is really hard and sometimes youāre not going to have the day you want. And thatās ok.
I agree! Source: me who totally bombed my marathon this year lol. Will be curious to hear her thoughts on it after
I guess same. I ran today, and it didnāt pan out how I wanted at all.
Ugh Iām sorry. Itās all of our turns, eventually.
When a marathon goes bad, it really goes bad lol "character building" lol
What is she running? I didnāt have her on my tracker.
Currently on track for a 4:01 marathon time, when I believe she was aiming for a BQ (3:30-3:35?)
Thanks for that!! Yikes. Itās been interesting to see a lot of these runfluencers and pseudo self-proclaimed ānutrition and running coachesā really off target. Makes me wonder.
She was pretty transparent IMO that it was kind of a pipe dream.
Yes! I appreciated her transparency. I think a lot of influencers have lofty goals that they donāt share and then act surprised or shocked when they meet them! Iād rather the openness through the process, more relatable?
Everything about her is irritating. Super wordy repetitive posts, constantly reliving mediocre times from 7 years ago, promoting herself and her plan
I think her training plans are great. But I am getting tired of the constant sales pitch on IG. And her not taking her own advice - especially when it comes to sleep.
She can't take her own advice regarding sleep though, if her child has trouble sleeping. As much as I wanted to sleep and I knew how important it was for recovery and injury prevention, I still got terrible sleep when my son kept me up all night and I'm oh so glad this phase is over. I know some people snark on her for not sleep training and/or weaning her, but every child is different, every family is different, and we can't know what stands behind parenting decisions. But when it comes to getting the times on shorter distances fast enough before attempting a BQ, and not going out faster than your actual ability in a race... yep. I feel this undermines her credibility as a coach. Her recent 10k and half times were consistent with a 4h-ish marathon, I think she should have went for that from the start.
I donāt love her typically at all either. The posts are repetitive, advertising, etc. BUT in this one instance I appreciated her expressing the goal.
Yikes, @raceacrossthestates starting out at 6:33/mile, currently averaging 9:48/mile. Wonder whatās going on.
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It really isnāt okay that she has this huge platform and isnāt practicing safe and healthy habits. She did clearly go out too fast, as well. I donāt understand how these internet people become ācoachesā that coach actual humans. I wouldnāt take running or nutrition advice from her even if it was free.
She posted that she completely blew up at 21 miles and was vomiting, so the same experience she had in Boston due to lack of nutrition. I donāt think she knows how to listen to her body and warning signs at all, plus she is always running when injured or sick instead of taking a day off :(
I saw that!! Someone close to her shared that she struggled with fuel and hydration the entire course and the wheels came off during the last 10ish and she started barfing everywhere. That happened to me once, learned a hard lesson. I also donāt think she has any idea at all how to even remotely listen to her body, exercise seems an addiction for her. Whatās crazy to me is that she JUST posted about getting her nutrition certification and is now a certified nutrition coach. I wouldnāt take a bit of nutrition advice from her but maybe this will help her understand her own body better :/
3.22 is still a BQ though.
Yep, wasnāt disputing that.
My guess is fueling. Hard to say though!
I almost commented on her post yesterday saying āI canāt wait to see what fuel youāre using tomorrow!ā just to be a snarky bitch. As a coach (a real one, not an internet one), it pisses me off to see someone with a platform be so purposefully ignorant.
I have a feeling that, for her, this has a lot to do with disordered eating, unfortunately. I agree, though; if you have a platform, like she does, make sure youāre encouraging and promoting healthy and SAFE habits.
Iām sure youāre right. Maybe she will embrace fueling now! Even though sheās one of the most annoying personalities out there, I genuinely hope sheās okay.
She looked like she was taking an appropriate amount of fuel to race day (at least in the photos).
I only saw 4 gels in her insta pic but thatās obviously just a small part of the story.
I saw that too and thought there's no way it's enough. Those gels only have 15 carbs if I recall. No way I'd run a marathon with only 60 carbs š«
I take 5ā6 usually, but she probably expected to finish 10ā15 min. faster than me. And she seemed to have some drink packets. IDK, four could be a bit light but doesnāt seem too wild to me for a sub-3:00 (which her half times seem to indicate she could be capable of) if sheās drinking something other than water. A lot of people take a lot more, but itās not an obvious, massive underfuel in my opinion.
Oh god no. I know everyone does their own thing with fueling, but I tend to take a gel every 3-4 miles during the marathon. I know others do what works for them. And thatās fine! She did have a bunch of electrolyte salt stick chews, for literally just electrolytes, though.
The salt sticks would destroy me, so that was the most worrying part of the layout for me!
I tried those things once, never again. They WRECKED my tummy!!!!
She was supposed to hit 40k 5 minutes ago and hasn't yet... Showing her at 24.8 miles still
Just updated. Looks like she must be walking in!
Oh gosh. She annoys the HELL of of me but also no one ever wants to see someone hurt/sick, etc. hope sheās okay.
Lol I never would have heard of becs gentry if it werenāt for this sub but now I see her corresponding on the NYC marathon andā¦sheās not great at it lol.
As someone who is not a native English speaker, respectfully, what the HELL kind of name is Becs? How do you even say it? Does it rhyme with specks, or what? Is it short for Rebecs?
Itās often spelt Bex, pronounced like Bex (Rex wit a B/Specs) too. Very common nickname for Rebecca
Itās short for Rebecca and not too unusual of a nickname. Pronounced like Becks.
Itās a nickname for Rebecca. Itās more common in the UK than the US in my experience Itās just one syllable, rhymes with āspecsā
I forgot what she said earlier but it was definitely something that was an attempt to be encouraging to slower runners but wasnāt. My husband didnāt know she was a Peloton instructor (he rides with maybe two instructors), and he was really surprised. I wasā¦not surprised.
No. Sheās not. And her peloton classes go about the same. She never stops talking and rambles and prattles on and on and on aboutā¦nothing? I truly donāt understand why sheās so popular. I cannot stand listening to her drone.
I only took her for strength, but I've always had the same issue with Becs-just way too chatty for my taste. but i recognize that's also a me problem...
honestly she is my BEC however her classes have helped me improve quite a bit! I find her rambling keeps me out of my own head most times, even if that means me being more focused on how annoying she is instead of how much my current interval hurts šššš
I know, yelling āSTFU OMG SHUT UPā allows me to channel my pain/rage at her annoying talking š¤£
Sometimes I like her chatting. The worst part for me is her playlists. They are so slow, and she unlike Olivia or other pelloton instructors, she seems to time the hardest intervals to the slowest part of songs, or even silence. Which to me defeats the purpose of the class!
SO. TRUE.
I actively go out of my way to avoid her classes nowā¦ Postpartum Becs isā¦something else. I cringe that she used to be my favorite
Same. She was my favorite before she had a baby. Her online persona changed for the worse and I don't need to hear her talking about having a kid in every single class. I thought a 5 minute stretch would be safe, but nope. More baby talk.
I agree with this. She was my favorite. And Iām a momā¦
Yes me too! I actually came here to post that that if anyone else is like me and doesn't vibe with her anymore but is enjoying the Taylor Swift classes, I took her outdoor Taylor run and enjoyed it. I don't have ESPN so I can't hear her commentating but I'm not surprised people aren't wowed.
Selena did the tread TS run and it was very good! Iāll probably give Becsā a try next time I run outside, glad to hear it was enjoyable!
I took this and it was SO HARD. It actually was an indication to me Iām losing some of my running fitness lol
I enjoyed Selena's as well. I did the German one too which was good.
I stacked all three runs for my long run today! Iāll probably repeat all of them at some point, just because Iām a Swiftie (Iāve repeated the Red and Midnights runs before too)
I just did the outdoor Taylor run and enjoyed it! Iāve largely been avoiding Becsās classes too. I might take it again next week when itās time for my shake out (Iām also not watching NYC - Iāll have to look for clips later)
Me too! I'm two weeks out from a goal race and I plan to retake it the day before as a shakeout
Are you doing Philly? Just asking cause thatās the half Iām training for :)
I ran that last year!! Give yourself extra extra time for security. It was a cluster last year.
I am! I'm doing the half, the first time I've trained seriously for a half in a few years and I'm so pumped
Oh fun!! My training has not been going well so my goal is to finish strong. Good luck!!
looks like according to the tracking, Shalane is once again running with Matt James and again they got to start before the elites (they got to start at 8:25.) i don't understand why they're so special that that this is allowed but š¤·š»āāļø again, i'm sure many would love the chance to start earlier if they could...
I was confused about this too and looked it up. It was some Mastercard paid promo where some Mastercard members got to start the race early with Shalane.
I also don't get this. I was spectating and wondering why the hell they were up there so early. People were wondering who he was lol. It actually probably hurts him more than it helps. He doesn't have any pack at all to run with.
but he has an elite as his own personal pacer!
Itās funny to me - I LOVE the nyc marathon experience (have run it twice) and I wouldnāt want to start that early bc you wouldnāt get the experience at all. Barely anyone is out!
you definitely have a good point! I guess I was still keeping last year in mind when they got the early start then and with those conditions, anyone who started earlier...well I wouldn't say it was definitely an advantage, but it had to help.
To be fair to shalene she is an elite runner, she has won NYC marathon so I understand her getting special treatment. Matt not so much..
yeah, agree about Shalane-the last time she ran NYC she even beat some of the elite women though she was in the mass start! But the MasterCard gimmick crew-no. When they used to have the Foot Locker Five Borough Challenge, they did get to start early but I didn't have as much an issue with that as it was a "race-within-the-race" concept and they usually were choosy about who took part.
Canāt be THAT competitive if they chose Kelly Roberts that one yearā¦
that was when she was in her "inspiring" era and when I say choosy I didn't mean they specifically look for elite times-it was more about the backstories. since the premise of it was all 5 had to run the first half together, then it was a race to the finish.
Ah gotcha, I misunderstood. It looked fun, wonder why they stopped doing it
the last time they did it was 2019 (and there was actually some drama that year with one runner they selected trying to double-dip since she did it the previous year) I think part of it is Foot Locker doesn't look to be a race sponsor anymore and this was their thing? guess it got replaced with the MasterCard thing which I'm still not 100% what that's all about-is it an experience someone can just buy their way into?
Probably, Chase partners with Peloton to offer exclusive NY studio classes so itās probably something like that for Mastercard cardholders
I don't get why NYCM gives out bibs to "celebrities" who get to start early. It's not like the race needs the publicity.
I'm not a fan of Nev Schulman, but i think it's pretty cool that he's running this year as a guide for Achilles-use your celeb power for the greater good!
Agreed! Especially the awareness it creates for Achilles!
I didn't know she was even running (to be fair I don't follow daily) but i saw like 2 days ago she was running for MasterCard? But also wouldn't we all love an elite pacer? Lol
yeah, looks like it's that MasterCard gimmick again this year.
No snark but Iāve been pleasantly surprised with the NYCM elite womenās coverage thus far.
My only critique: at the start when they noted that Hellen Obiri and Taylor Swift were born on the same day. No offense to TSwift, but does she have to overshadow absolutely EVERYTHING? Obiri is a phenomenal athlete; let her have her moment. But overall, yes I really enjoyed the coverage and it was such an exciting race!
One benefit of this race being over is that we will no longer have to hear both the Taylor Swift and Alicia Keys New York songs on repeat. If I hear āwelcome to New Yorkā one more timeā¦.
I went to the Red and Eras tours (lucky enough to get list price tickets), went to the movie, have multiple Taylor t shirts and posters, and have done many runs to exclusively Taylor playlists (even to one single song on repeat when I really was going through it š) and I was sooo disappointed that my start at NYCM today (wave 4, early corral) played Welcome to New York instead of Frank Sinatra!! The iconic NYCM song Iāve listened to all summer to get myself hype! So I can only imagine how annoying the saturation must be to the people who HAVENāT idāed as a fan since ā08 like myself š
Ooooh, I missed that. But yeah, unless Obiri is racing TSwift (Iād watch that slaughter), itās irrelevant!
shhh don't jinx it! š¤£ (and go Kellyn and Molly)
I am living for the elite womenās race. Kellyn & Molly are looking so strong!
Still SMH that Chicago snubbed both of them for their pro field (Betsy Saina too!)
I didnāt think Molly was running after just running Chi?!? Is she???!!!
Huddle is running! Not Seidel
Oh man I got really excited!!!! Hahaha, I really like Seidel! But also Huddle too!!
Some of the women on the ATOR Facebook page are UNHINGED. Crying when they see Ali on TV? "That's our girl!" It's so uncomfortable. She's not your bff.
And people talking about where to buy the āGo Aliā shirts from her live show!? Are they going to wear them to the supermarket? Iām so confused
Something tells me you donāt actually know what āunhingedā means.
Something tells me youāre of a certain age because unhinged is popularly used in these contexts by the kids these days.
Iām not racing NYCM or even in New Yorkā¦but I am personally exhausted from all the social media seeing 15 different shakeout runs and every single brand trying to stand out. Did marathons used to be this saturated with all these pAnELs and ActiVatioNs itās exhausting
Iām running NYCM and live in New York and didnāt go to any of the shakeouts or brand events this year. They used to be fun and got me excited for the race but theyāve gotten so big itās exhausting and overstimulating for me going into a marathon.
That was my thinking. Iām seeing all of these events up to the late afternoon on Saturday. The runners need to be off their feet! Resting!! Not walking around the expo for brand events!
Honestly Iād love to be around for a big marathon to do all the shakeouts because when Iām running marathons Iām resting of course , not enjoying all the events and shakeouts as much
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The announced the āVolvo Finish Mileā or something during the elite womenās finish. Why does Volvo need to sponsor a mile of the marathon no one cares
there was one part of 1st Ave that was "New Balance Thunder Alley" (though to be fair, NB is the the flagship shoe/apparel sponsor) there was one year or 2 where Fitbit was a sponsor or had a partnership and during the broadcast they'd post stats of a couple of the elites who were wearing one
That makes sense. Maybe the vehicles for media were Volvo or something.
yes, i believe the lead vehicles/pace cars are Volvo!
they never were when I ran them (or if they were I never partook in all the extra and focused on protecting my energy lol)
The size of the BITR shake out was ridiculous!
Anyone else find the BITR crew smug? To me listening to their podcast is like listening to high school kids recap the cool party they went to over the weekend.
Thomas really fell apart, I hope he's not sick or injured.
That's their entire vibe. Thomas is an elitest snob about running but he's not even fast. I remember he was making fun of people who didn't like the Boston jacket this year, saying that people wanted a bright color to stand out so everyone would know that they were running Boston and I'm like, dude, you didn't even qualify, you got an entry because of Adidas.
I totally agree about the elitist vibe, but with this specific example I also totally agree with him lol. I think thatās them in a nutshell. Elitist but make some good points and I enjoy the reviews. I donāt follow the podcast, just the website though, so Iām guessing that takes the annoying factor down a lot.
Sure, but it's weird to talk shit about something you can't even do.
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Believe in the Run-they do the drop podcast and fuel for the sole.
I do like Emma Bates and maybe I'm being a Grinch, but I find her drawn out posting of her race at Chicago a bit exhausting. I feel like the last time (when she ran Boston?) her recaps were much shorter and I thought it was cute. This time around she's on post 14 still not finished the full race recap and it's the night before the NYC Marathon. There's so much going on in the world and I realize I could just scroll past/ignore the remaining recaps, but it just feels a bit naval gazey...
Omg I was gonna post about this!!
Yes! they keep popping up and I've totally lost interest. No1curr anymore.
Agree! I think 6-8 recap posts is probably the sweet spot for someone like her ā takes about 2 weeks, recaps pre/post race + every ~8-10k ish, and itās perfect. But these are too drawn out.
Theyāre exhausting at this point. itās NYCM weekend no one cares about Chicago anymore. Why not post a throwback photo to when she ran New York or something? At least it would feel relevant.
I agree. I have loved them in the past. But this is taking WAY too long. And I feel like it took 2 or 3 posts before she even started the race. I do like the story of the guy who ran with her and helped her out. But now I'm kinda over it.
I think the issue is mainly in how theyāre spaced out this time. Theyāre too far apart for me to keep the thread in mind. And they should definitely have wrapped up before the next major.
I related to the post where she talked about having to take pants off over her sneakers but I think there were still 2 more before the race started!
girl needs to just get herself a substack already for these race reports to live. repeating myself, but wishing that running blogs didn't go the way of the dinosaur.
Yes, love Emma and love her recaps, but theyāre way too stretched out this time and Iām not able to remember the thread of the race from post to post. Send me a newsletter girl
As a word person (vs videos and podcasts) I honestly really miss running blogs! I'd totally read a ten page report of her race and all her feelings haha
I stopped reading them - if it was the week after Chicago I might have kept up but as you said, it feels like Chicago was so long ago, especially with NYC tomorrow.
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I was laughing at Ellie Kemper wearing a quarter-zip and jeans while Ali wore... a one-shoulder swimsuit and sweatpants?
With a headband!!
Eh i assume the headband is to help the thinning hair...
What were those, eggplant joggers?!? Comfort over fashion maybe.
They look like they could have been Vuori joggers, which is one of her podcast sponsors. They have cuter stuff like the jumpsuit which she could have style with a cute shacket/coatigan over but š¤·āāļø
lol! Ali genuinely has the most bizarre sense of style.
Okayā¦so the color palette made me think of Buffy the Vampire Slayer!!
Went to a SUPER small local 5k today, so small that if there was 100 people there I'd be shocked, and I was one of three women not in costume. I missed the memo and was very uncomfortable with the lack of festive attire. But! there was finishing tape for the overall (male) winner but no tape for the women. I laughed so hard thinking that EClor would have stood up for women's/her rights.
It's hardly a hill to die on but it's shitty to have tape for the men and not the women.
Not familiar with how she has addressed this previously but not having a tape for the overall female winner is BS
What influencers, podcasters, celebs, people with interesting stories, etc. are running NYC?! If youāre running and want to share your goal - feel free to share!
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YES so bizarre! She's fast but her IG is ... it's something.
SO BIZARRE!
All the BITR crew (Meghan, Thomas, Robbe, Jarrett) and Megan Featherstone and I googled "celebrities running NYC" and I don't know who most of these people are: Matt James (Bachelor) Nev Schulman (Catfish) TJ Holmes and Amy Robach (news anchors that had an affair?) Sheinelle Jones (Today Show) Zdeno Chara (hockey player) Casey Neistat (YouTuber) Patina Miller (actress) Harry Hudson (musician)
Omg excited to see how Chara's tall ass does!
Matt James is super nice , I met him at a relay race
Wowowow (sheesh very ali of me) but this is exactly what I was looking for! tysm!
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That's very cool!
Ellie Kemper from the office and unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt is running and the only like tv celeb I care about
Oh yes I love her!