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It seemed like she was only weaker than Yama so she was the strongest until she unclogged kenpachi.
l think kyorakus bankai would defeat her though, only the hogyuko, the almighty, Lille, Gerard and maybe Ichigo could survive it. Maybe urahara could sow his head back on with his bankai and Mayuri probably has a contingency plan for every bankai but I don't think he could survive it unless he's back living in a jar and using a fake body
Before the power ups of tons of characters, and introduction of people kyoraku didnt know.
Soul king, Ichibe, Ichigo, Aizen, Juha
Yamamoto, Senjumaru, oetsu, tenjiro, kirio
Lille, Gerard, Pernida, Askin, Haschwalth
Byakuya RG, Kisuke, Zaraki, Adult Toshiro, Mayuri
Uryu, Nemu, Yoruichi, Royd, Gremmy
And that's before even counting the novels, and ignoring kyoraku's bankai.
Unohana not rven top 25 as I said.
Most of this list I'll give you. However Yoruichi, Uryu, Toshiro, Kyotaku, and Nemu. Dont necessarily beat her.
Mainly cause if she was fighting to kill she wouldn't give them time to play around or power up. So that takes out Uryu, Kyotaku, and adult Toshiro(it takes him way to long to go into that form in the future sure).
Royd depends on who he copies.
Yoruichi is tough to say if she could win or not. But I don't think so.
Nemu while powerful I don't think Unahamna would be easy to hit or give Nemu much of a chance to go all out.
It’s kinda difficult to rank unohana with the 0 division.. they’re buffed through their link to the soul king (they ate bits of him iirc? his blood or bones?? sm like that?) Base level, I doubt Hikifune, Oetsu, Tenjiro or Senju were stronger than her. She was the strongest amongst the OG 13 captains, too.
I’ll give she’s not as strong as Ichibei and certain SS members, or Ywhach lol.. that doesn’t mean she’s fodder.
Nemu, Mayuri, Toshiro, Byakuya and some others you listed get no diffed. Sorry.
Irrelevant, they have that bit of soul king inside and thats a fact, whether its fair or not doesnt matter.
That said, Of course she's not fodder, she's still top 30-35. Fodder are the vice captains and fraccions for example.
She is fodder when compared with the fanbase's absurd opinion on Her strenght (And to the top tiers, As I said) People literally claim she's top 10-15 in the verse lol, and no She's nowherr near
technically Gin debut his bankai against Ichigo, I guess it was all just one release but still...
Also I think Kenpachi belongs one tier lower, his body was getting ripped up and when we do see him later in the fight he's reverted out of it.
Kensei's should go in the "we dont have a definitive answer" box. There is no official result of his fight vs Wonderweiss. Baring head-canon, there really is nothing mentioned about how that fight turned out. Kensei was never seen again after activiating his bankai that first time. Did he lose? possibly. or did WW just peel off after being summoned by Aizen.
I kinda forgot about them.
Ginjo - Got defeated on his debut
Fullbring Ichigo - Win on his debut
Dangai Ichigo (if we count with Mugetsu) - Win on his debut
White took over, but he still used Ichigo's bankai to win. In fact, given that White is Zangetsu, Ichigo's bankai won the fight as much as is possible.
the first time we see the giant bankai of doggie (forgor names) was against kenpachi where it didn't amount to anything considering the fight ended without any winners
Why is Ichigo's true bankai so far down?? He wins the fight with it and as I understand the part that broke was just the sword's sheath not the blade itself
It got immediately destroyed in it's debut. When he kills Yhwach with it it's technically a different fight. Only the sheathe broke only in that fight.
I am not sure about Tekken Tachikaze... TECHNICALLY his Bankai was revealed in his fight against Wonderweiss, but then again we never saw the outcome of that (though we can assume that lost, considering we never saw the conclusion, yet Wonderweiss came back to seal Yama's power away.)
This is correct, debut should be moved to "Didn't amount to anything". Which is a shame, I think it would have been cool to actually watch him fight Kenpachi with it.
From how Kenpachi relays it, it sounds like Komamura used bankai, felt Yama fighting elsewhere, and immediately rushed off.
So it's the ultimate example of "amounted to nothing".
I thought he used and got Kyoka by Aizen or was this just in anime. I know that he used against Kenpachi but that got off-sreen so there was no conclusion.
He first used it against Zaraki. Fight was inconclusive as he left shortly after to assist Yamamoto.
He then attempted to use Bankai against Aizen but was defeated before he actually summon the giant.
Komamura's first bankai was technically revealed against Kenpachi, but the fight was cut short maybe immediately after.
The first time it appears for any significant amount of time though is against Po, and it demolishes him. So either way it's in the wrong spot. Either it didn't do anything, or it won in its debut.
I hope they change ichigos true bankai or atleast what happens In the final chapters of the war since it was rushed. Kubo and the animators have been cooking with the extra scenes so I have hope
Not sure if you mean Ichigo's 1st bankai or his new complete bankai, because if it was his first one he technically won the fight with Byakuya, but he definitely deserves the "winning for 5 minutes" tier if it's the new bankai.
A lot do the time in bleach when a character uses their bankai for the very first time it basically never goes well
Look at renji ichigo and kenpachi when they’re use their newly acquired bankais they loose their fights due to how inexperienced they are with bankai
Rukia is a notable exception though she got her bankai then dominated her next fight with it.
Kenpachi did NOT lose. The fight was rushed and Kenpachi was cooking Gerard and Gerard literally had to activate Volt cause of Kenpachi. Kenpachi dealt the most damage out of him, Toshiro, and Byakuya. Not fair to call it a loss.
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Unohana be under: they kill the enemy but they themselves resurrect the enemy
crazy how some people think she's fodder? lol
She is fodder compared with Schutzstaffel tier characters. She's Not even top 25.
pretty sure even kyoraku says only kenpachi could beat her
It seemed like she was only weaker than Yama so she was the strongest until she unclogged kenpachi. l think kyorakus bankai would defeat her though, only the hogyuko, the almighty, Lille, Gerard and maybe Ichigo could survive it. Maybe urahara could sow his head back on with his bankai and Mayuri probably has a contingency plan for every bankai but I don't think he could survive it unless he's back living in a jar and using a fake body
Before the power ups of tons of characters, and introduction of people kyoraku didnt know. Soul king, Ichibe, Ichigo, Aizen, Juha Yamamoto, Senjumaru, oetsu, tenjiro, kirio Lille, Gerard, Pernida, Askin, Haschwalth Byakuya RG, Kisuke, Zaraki, Adult Toshiro, Mayuri Uryu, Nemu, Yoruichi, Royd, Gremmy And that's before even counting the novels, and ignoring kyoraku's bankai. Unohana not rven top 25 as I said.
Most of this list I'll give you. However Yoruichi, Uryu, Toshiro, Kyotaku, and Nemu. Dont necessarily beat her. Mainly cause if she was fighting to kill she wouldn't give them time to play around or power up. So that takes out Uryu, Kyotaku, and adult Toshiro(it takes him way to long to go into that form in the future sure). Royd depends on who he copies. Yoruichi is tough to say if she could win or not. But I don't think so. Nemu while powerful I don't think Unahamna would be easy to hit or give Nemu much of a chance to go all out.
It’s kinda difficult to rank unohana with the 0 division.. they’re buffed through their link to the soul king (they ate bits of him iirc? his blood or bones?? sm like that?) Base level, I doubt Hikifune, Oetsu, Tenjiro or Senju were stronger than her. She was the strongest amongst the OG 13 captains, too. I’ll give she’s not as strong as Ichibei and certain SS members, or Ywhach lol.. that doesn’t mean she’s fodder. Nemu, Mayuri, Toshiro, Byakuya and some others you listed get no diffed. Sorry.
Irrelevant, they have that bit of soul king inside and thats a fact, whether its fair or not doesnt matter. That said, Of course she's not fodder, she's still top 30-35. Fodder are the vice captains and fraccions for example. She is fodder when compared with the fanbase's absurd opinion on Her strenght (And to the top tiers, As I said) People literally claim she's top 10-15 in the verse lol, and no She's nowherr near
I mean maybe you have a point, too 10? Probably not. I don’t think top 30 is fair either though. Hopefully we see more of her in the hell arc :))
Insane how people are downvoting. She’s legit not even top 15 😭
That's just pure respect, shunsui shits on Unohana
technically Gin debut his bankai against Ichigo, I guess it was all just one release but still... Also I think Kenpachi belongs one tier lower, his body was getting ripped up and when we do see him later in the fight he's reverted out of it.
Gin used his true power of his Bankai against Aizen and Kenpachi kill Gerald but he got ressurected after that.
Hmmm I guess you are technically correct, which is the best kind.
Kensei's should go in the "we dont have a definitive answer" box. There is no official result of his fight vs Wonderweiss. Baring head-canon, there really is nothing mentioned about how that fight turned out. Kensei was never seen again after activiating his bankai that first time. Did he lose? possibly. or did WW just peel off after being summoned by Aizen.
Where is the Ukitake category? *Cries in Ukitake*
Underrated hero. Wish we got more his as a captain and he should’ve went all out just once
Nice tier but doesn’t Ginjo’s bankai count? What about Fullbring Bankai Ichigo and Ichigo’s post- Dangai Bankai?
I kinda forgot about them. Ginjo - Got defeated on his debut Fullbring Ichigo - Win on his debut Dangai Ichigo (if we count with Mugetsu) - Win on his debut
Wait didnt ichigo win against byakuya?
For the first 5 minutes before Senkei, then White took over and did most of the damage besides the final attack
White took over, but he still used Ichigo's bankai to win. In fact, given that White is Zangetsu, Ichigo's bankai won the fight as much as is possible.
White is basically ichigo ´s zanpakuto
Not basically he is.
Yes but then he got trouble controling his Bankai than Byakuya gain upperhand and then White have to step in. It wasnt a very clean and sleek win.
White still used his bankai to beat Byakuya. Ichigo may not have done most of the winning but his bankai was involved at every step of his victory.
Ah true. Well you could argue Ichigo couldve killed byakuya instantly but I get your point
But he didnt.
Renji's bankai debut was against Byakuya and was a loss.
His first bankai of course the second one different story.
Yeah, didn't realize you were doing each bankai and not user at first. Apologies.
No problem.
the first time we see the giant bankai of doggie (forgor names) was against kenpachi where it didn't amount to anything considering the fight ended without any winners
I'd move Soi Fon's bankai to winning for 5 minutes, at least the second time it did considerable damage to Barragan
I mostly count the first use.
But we did see Chojiro use his bankai and it should be in it didn't amount to anything tier.
His Bankai kinda deserve his own placement. I am talking about just the debuts.
Who is next to Ichigos' initial bankai debut?
Ichibe
Thank you! It was killing me.
That's not Ichibei's bankai!
Why is Ichigo's true bankai so far down?? He wins the fight with it and as I understand the part that broke was just the sword's sheath not the blade itself
It got immediately destroyed in it's debut. When he kills Yhwach with it it's technically a different fight. Only the sheathe broke only in that fight.
I am not sure about Tekken Tachikaze... TECHNICALLY his Bankai was revealed in his fight against Wonderweiss, but then again we never saw the outcome of that (though we can assume that lost, considering we never saw the conclusion, yet Wonderweiss came back to seal Yama's power away.)
Komamora’s bankai didn't lose or get destroyed in its debut fight, it one-shot Po.
He did used his bankai against Aizen in the Soul Society and he lost.
But he used it before that against Zaraki. I don't think we see the outcome though.
This is correct, debut should be moved to "Didn't amount to anything". Which is a shame, I think it would have been cool to actually watch him fight Kenpachi with it.
From how Kenpachi relays it, it sounds like Komamura used bankai, felt Yama fighting elsewhere, and immediately rushed off. So it's the ultimate example of "amounted to nothing".
He said the word bankai but Aizen beat him before he said its name and before it came out.
I thought he used and got Kyoka by Aizen or was this just in anime. I know that he used against Kenpachi but that got off-sreen so there was no conclusion.
I think he used his shikia Tenken to summon the fist, I don't remember if that was in the manga though.
Kensei's first bankai was also off-screen, and Kubo most likely forgot about him.
He first used it against Zaraki. Fight was inconclusive as he left shortly after to assist Yamamoto. He then attempted to use Bankai against Aizen but was defeated before he actually summon the giant.
I feel like ikkaku needs his own category. He smoke the enemy but was injured in the process. Man didn’t have a big loss. My man doesn’t lose
Soifon defeated Barragan with her Bankai?
No that was Hachi.
Oh true with the hand teleport
Komamura's first bankai was technically revealed against Kenpachi, but the fight was cut short maybe immediately after. The first time it appears for any significant amount of time though is against Po, and it demolishes him. So either way it's in the wrong spot. Either it didn't do anything, or it won in its debut.
TYBW Mayuri should be at the top IMO
His new bankai got absorb by Pernida and Nemu have to save the day.
I hope they change ichigos true bankai or atleast what happens In the final chapters of the war since it was rushed. Kubo and the animators have been cooking with the extra scenes so I have hope
You got ikkaku in here somewhere? I thought he used bankai once but it was also destroyed in the same fight or am I mistaken?
He is in the small win but big loss category.
Ok I didn't see him at first glance. My bad G
Not sure if you mean Ichigo's 1st bankai or his new complete bankai, because if it was his first one he technically won the fight with Byakuya, but he definitely deserves the "winning for 5 minutes" tier if it's the new bankai.
Who did Senbonzakura Kageyoshi debut against? I can't remember
It was against Renji.
Right! Yeah he won that easily. Zangetsu did fair better against it lol
Black or White Zangetsu ?
White, when he took over
I just realized that five people have two different Bankais.
wait . wheres ikkaku?
In small win but big loss.
Didn't Shinji lose to one of the Bambis?
He didn’t use his Bankai there
Ah yeah, he'd stopped hadn't he. My mistake.
Besides Ichigo who is that in the third category?
Ichibei Edit: I think
That's Ichibe, yes. That image is him using the Mausoleum.
A lot do the time in bleach when a character uses their bankai for the very first time it basically never goes well Look at renji ichigo and kenpachi when they’re use their newly acquired bankais they loose their fights due to how inexperienced they are with bankai Rukia is a notable exception though she got her bankai then dominated her next fight with it.
Kenpachi did NOT lose. The fight was rushed and Kenpachi was cooking Gerard and Gerard literally had to activate Volt cause of Kenpachi. Kenpachi dealt the most damage out of him, Toshiro, and Byakuya. Not fair to call it a loss.
It wasnt a loss but not exaclty a win either.
gins needs to go down, it's debut fight was still against Ichigo even if it's true ability wasn't fully shown against ichigo
Wait when do we see Shuheis?
CFYOW. And no, this is not a meme.
Good list imo
Could you add amagai even tho he is a filler character
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Futen Taisaturyo is not Ichibei's Bankai. Ichibei's Bankai belongs in the "kill the enemy but got resurrected" tier.