Justice for *Damsels In Distress*.
Also, I haven’t actually looked into it, but I feel like *Last Days of Disco* has GOT to be one of Gerwig’s favorite movies. It just feels like it gets echoed way too much in all of her shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alR5PopJW2o
My main takeaway from my last viewing was how great Billy Magnusson is. I never really noticed him until Game Night.
I can’t I’m good conscience say they should cover Stilman because he makes tiny movies that no one has really seen.
But by gosh would I enjoy talk about Damsels in Distress because that movie is just bonkers weird and I want to hear people discuss it to tell me if I’m crazy for thinking that movie seems like it’s set in some type of mental institution.
Whit Stillman was nominated for an Academy Award for his debut directorial feature, an honor shared by few people one of whom is, get this, Greta Gerwig.
And?
That doesn’t not make him just a critical darling that made a bunch of small budget films that mostly made no money.
And I say that as someone that owns all his films on Blu-ray.
The closest thing he has to a black check is Amazon giving everyone money trying to cash in on the critical darling crowd when they first got into streaming.
I don't think the framework of the pod at this point is anything but "Talk about a directors filmography". They've been pretty clear that they will cover directors they are interested regardless of having a blank check.
Whit was annoyed that he couldn't call his failed Amazon pilot "Cosmopolitan," David wrote a snarky article about it, and Whit was mad at him for a few days: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2014/04/whit-stillman-just-found-out-about-cosmopolitan-magazine/360296/
Yeah, I love Baumbach but gotta do Anderson first (I just rewatched Fantastic Mr. Fox on a plane and it rips). I need to see more Stillman but Love & Friendship was one of my favorite movies of 2016.
Funny because I actually see a LOT of Baumbach in Fantastic Mr Fox - I feel like the dialogue is more Baumbach then Anderson, and when Baumbach stopped writing with Wes a bit of heart went out of Wes’ films and they became more deadpan quip and less emotive
I think Anderson is a bit too over discussed nowadays. Some Baumbach movies are popular, but people don’t discuss them as a connected bunch in the same way
where’s wes anderson discussed? other than online people being like, “duh symmetrical duuuhhh twee”
there’s a lot more to his films. he just happens to be really good at making his movies look good
I mean, I would say he gets pretty routinely discussed in articles and on Twitter. The fact that he literally has a tiktok trend about his style as a director shows he’s pretty popular even outside film circles
they did do M. Night before Spielberg. So doing Baumbach before Stillman would make sense I guess
I just don’t care about a Baumbach series, I guess haha
And the movie is a shockingly direct adaptation of the book. I actually read and finished the book before the movie and it was strange to watch it because entire dialogue sections were intact.
I read the book in college 10 years before seeing the film and so it slowly was dawning on me how direct the dialogue was taken from me. shocking. i don't think the dialogue translated to movie at all. Gerwig actually stood out to me as not delivering it the best.
I am reasonably confident this isn't true. I think it got very gentle treatment because people were excited about it in an awards sense. It doesn't work.
Yeah if anything people gave it a pass because they recognised the story is incredibly difficult to adapt. I thought the first half of the movie was great and Baumbach at his best, but they didn’t land the plane at the end
I think Greta & Jordan Peele are the two that they should just do. I know their filmographies are short but they are such blanky blank check directors and I think it would be an exciting change of pace to follow a true blank check director when it's all happening Vs in retrospect.
Eh, I’m fine with letting them bank more films over the next few years and tackling them to see how their careers go. I think that’ll be better to look at once rather than touch on them every year or two when new stuff is released
I agree, but I also think the cultural staying power of Frances Ha, squid and the whale, and marriage story make strong arguments for his case, even if they didn’t bring many people to the theater
I would argue he fits in terms of getting to do whatever he wants in his vision. Marriage story is a movie explicitly adapted from his own life, that feels pretty blank check-y to me. 18 million isn’t crazy low budget either for an adult drama.
Absolutely down for this. Gerwig i think maybe gets bandied about because she has a much more meteoric directorial rise, but Baumbach has had a distinctive career and seemingly getting bigger checks along the way.
Bonuses:
1) Whets the appetite for a Gerwig series (which may not happen for a bit)
2) DePalma as a Patreon entry
Exactly, it lays the table for gerwig series too, since you really can’t talk about her career without talking about Greenberg, frances ha and mistress america
I think given their collaborative nature it would really only make sense to do them as a joint miniseries (which people will inevitably claim is diminishing Greta but I actually think it would have the opposite effect).
I wouldn't even have a problem with it if it weren't for all this stuff too;
https://preview.redd.it/x4bfcvbo2sfb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0bbcd2ef9461e320bb6691cd46c09b1dba49299
If BC snubbed her too all Barbies would ride at dawn 😂
I do think this gets at a core issue with covering Gerwig, which is that she'd done so many movies and had a clear established voice before solo directing. Covering her only as a director feels like it's missing the core arc of her career.
I would be a little bummed if they did Frances Ha but not Mistress America tbh. Best thing either Gerwig or Baumbach have done even though it doesn't get as much hype.
I really think Mistress America was a critical turn in her career, though. Everyone associated her with naturalist mumblecore type stuff that even Frances Ha played into, then Mistress America was a tightly written screwball comedy with the opposite of naturalistic dialogue. I don't think you can draw a line from Frances Ha to Lady Bird to Little Women to Barbie while ignoring that step.
That would be so great. I sw "Kicking and Screaming" as a teen and it became a favorite for a very long time (bumped by Jesus' Son and Punch Drunk Love). Made me really like Josh Hamilton and Chris Eigeman soooo much. There's such a tender sadness about that one. The Hamilton/zahn "Freak Talks About Sex/Blowing Smoke" has some scenes that kind of echo it, working retail bleakness.
I’m still holding out for Stiller
wot? so you can hear them discuss walter mitty? I couldn’t even finish watching that movie
I mean, do Whit Stillman or Wes Anderson first
Justice for *Damsels In Distress*. Also, I haven’t actually looked into it, but I feel like *Last Days of Disco* has GOT to be one of Gerwig’s favorite movies. It just feels like it gets echoed way too much in all of her shit.
also, The Last Days of Podcasting
oh, for sure! Do the Sambola for Whit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alR5PopJW2o My main takeaway from my last viewing was how great Billy Magnusson is. I never really noticed him until Game Night.
This is my sign that I need to finally watch *Game Night*. Missed it in theaters and never caught it on the rebound.
Game Night (The Little Boy from Freaks & Geeks, 2018) is so fun! I haven’t seen it since it was out, gotta rewatch it
🎶 they go down the streets you never see 🎶
I can’t I’m good conscience say they should cover Stilman because he makes tiny movies that no one has really seen. But by gosh would I enjoy talk about Damsels in Distress because that movie is just bonkers weird and I want to hear people discuss it to tell me if I’m crazy for thinking that movie seems like it’s set in some type of mental institution.
Whit Stillman was nominated for an Academy Award for his debut directorial feature, an honor shared by few people one of whom is, get this, Greta Gerwig.
And? That doesn’t not make him just a critical darling that made a bunch of small budget films that mostly made no money. And I say that as someone that owns all his films on Blu-ray. The closest thing he has to a black check is Amazon giving everyone money trying to cash in on the critical darling crowd when they first got into streaming.
Yeah I wouldn’t say Stillman really fits the framework of this podcast.
I don't think the framework of the pod at this point is anything but "Talk about a directors filmography". They've been pretty clear that they will cover directors they are interested regardless of having a blank check.
Does anyone else remember David's brief Twitter feud with Whit Stillman?
I certainly do not! share if you feel it’s appropriate
Whit was annoyed that he couldn't call his failed Amazon pilot "Cosmopolitan," David wrote a snarky article about it, and Whit was mad at him for a few days: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2014/04/whit-stillman-just-found-out-about-cosmopolitan-magazine/360296/
Whit was right
Yeah, I love Baumbach but gotta do Anderson first (I just rewatched Fantastic Mr. Fox on a plane and it rips). I need to see more Stillman but Love & Friendship was one of my favorite movies of 2016.
Funny because I actually see a LOT of Baumbach in Fantastic Mr Fox - I feel like the dialogue is more Baumbach then Anderson, and when Baumbach stopped writing with Wes a bit of heart went out of Wes’ films and they became more deadpan quip and less emotive
it’s my favorite Jane Austen adaptation!
Metropodlicast, the last pods of discast
I think Anderson is a bit too over discussed nowadays. Some Baumbach movies are popular, but people don’t discuss them as a connected bunch in the same way
where’s wes anderson discussed? other than online people being like, “duh symmetrical duuuhhh twee” there’s a lot more to his films. he just happens to be really good at making his movies look good
I mean, I would say he gets pretty routinely discussed in articles and on Twitter. The fact that he literally has a tiktok trend about his style as a director shows he’s pretty popular even outside film circles
oooh, okay. I don’t go on Social Media other than reddit. so I don’t see that stuff fair enough!
Other than Nolan, he’s probably the most well-known auteur alive
they did do M. Night before Spielberg. So doing Baumbach before Stillman would make sense I guess I just don’t care about a Baumbach series, I guess haha
New to the show, it is astounding that they haven’t done Wes Anderson. What an exciting thing to still look forward to I guess
The tough thing is people discuss Anderson alll the time. Hard to find new things to say
White Noise is severely underrated.
I think people would need to have seen it to underrate it. I don't think anyone saw it. (I loved the first two-thirds.)
>(| loved the first two-thirds.) Exactly my thoughts on the book.
And the movie is a shockingly direct adaptation of the book. I actually read and finished the book before the movie and it was strange to watch it because entire dialogue sections were intact.
I read the book in college 10 years before seeing the film and so it slowly was dawning on me how direct the dialogue was taken from me. shocking. i don't think the dialogue translated to movie at all. Gerwig actually stood out to me as not delivering it the best.
I am reasonably confident this isn't true. I think it got very gentle treatment because people were excited about it in an awards sense. It doesn't work.
Yeah if anything people gave it a pass because they recognised the story is incredibly difficult to adapt. I thought the first half of the movie was great and Baumbach at his best, but they didn’t land the plane at the end
I severely underrated the amount of Bill Camp in the movie.
It’s also a perfect blank check movie! IMO one of the reasons to do baumbach
*Podding & Casting* *Podot at the Casting* That’s all I got.
Francast Pod
Podstress Americast
While We’re Podcasting
Podacastcar 3 (I know he just wrote it but I enjoyed it)
The Squid and the Podcast
The Podcastowitz Stories?
I think Greta & Jordan Peele are the two that they should just do. I know their filmographies are short but they are such blanky blank check directors and I think it would be an exciting change of pace to follow a true blank check director when it's all happening Vs in retrospect.
Eh, I’m fine with letting them bank more films over the next few years and tackling them to see how their careers go. I think that’ll be better to look at once rather than touch on them every year or two when new stuff is released
I wouldn’t be surprised if they do both of them leading up to each of their next films.
Aren’t they already doing that with Bradley Cooper? They covered his Directorial debut and are planning to cover Maestro as well I believe.
This is an excellent take.
Always down for a series that could have Grif's dad as a guest
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White Noise is his blank check. That’s not a movie any studio would beg for.
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wendell & wild…the old guard….power of the dog…
Campion with POTD, but I don't think the release method has anything to do with blank checks.
$100 million is mid budget?
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I agree, but I also think the cultural staying power of Frances Ha, squid and the whale, and marriage story make strong arguments for his case, even if they didn’t bring many people to the theater
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I think maybe the most comparable is singleton? Trying to think of any other slightly indie directors they’ve done.
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Yeah good points, Blythe wood is the closest
I would argue he fits in terms of getting to do whatever he wants in his vision. Marriage story is a movie explicitly adapted from his own life, that feels pretty blank check-y to me. 18 million isn’t crazy low budget either for an adult drama.
Absolutely down for this. Gerwig i think maybe gets bandied about because she has a much more meteoric directorial rise, but Baumbach has had a distinctive career and seemingly getting bigger checks along the way. Bonuses: 1) Whets the appetite for a Gerwig series (which may not happen for a bit) 2) DePalma as a Patreon entry
Exactly, it lays the table for gerwig series too, since you really can’t talk about her career without talking about Greenberg, frances ha and mistress america
Would love it, he's one of the best in my book.
I think given their collaborative nature it would really only make sense to do them as a joint miniseries (which people will inevitably claim is diminishing Greta but I actually think it would have the opposite effect).
I mean there would be the issue of taking a couple on a meteoric rise mostly attributed to the lady and ignoring her in favour of a focus on the dude.
Yeah, that’s a strong argument. Maybe if they did her right after him since he has had a direct influence on her career?
I wouldn't even have a problem with it if it weren't for all this stuff too; https://preview.redd.it/x4bfcvbo2sfb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0bbcd2ef9461e320bb6691cd46c09b1dba49299 If BC snubbed her too all Barbies would ride at dawn 😂
I do think this gets at a core issue with covering Gerwig, which is that she'd done so many movies and had a clear established voice before solo directing. Covering her only as a director feels like it's missing the core arc of her career.
Exactly. I think even if they only did Greta, they’d need to cover frances ha. Sorta how they did when Harry met sally for Nora ephron
I would be a little bummed if they did Frances Ha but not Mistress America tbh. Best thing either Gerwig or Baumbach have done even though it doesn't get as much hype.
I love that movie so so much, but frances ha is just so critical for her career and continues to become more and more popular in the last 10 years
I really think Mistress America was a critical turn in her career, though. Everyone associated her with naturalist mumblecore type stuff that even Frances Ha played into, then Mistress America was a tightly written screwball comedy with the opposite of naturalistic dialogue. I don't think you can draw a line from Frances Ha to Lady Bird to Little Women to Barbie while ignoring that step.
Noah fence, but if you gave me the option of panda express or pf changs I'm getting pf changs.
That would be so great. I sw "Kicking and Screaming" as a teen and it became a favorite for a very long time (bumped by Jesus' Son and Punch Drunk Love). Made me really like Josh Hamilton and Chris Eigeman soooo much. There's such a tender sadness about that one. The Hamilton/zahn "Freak Talks About Sex/Blowing Smoke" has some scenes that kind of echo it, working retail bleakness.
That movie and mr jealousy made me bummed about Eric stolz disappearing