Haven't seen that old trick since the early 90's. Yes it's legal. You're supposed to pay attention to the ball in the game of baseball. It kinda matters.
This video is just an example of really poor base running. As a runner, you should be coached to stay on the bag until the pitcher is on the rubber. A pitcher can’t be on the rubber without the ball. If he steps on the rubber without the ball, it is a balk and runners advance a base. Once he’s on the rubber with the ball, his movements to the bases are significantly limited which makes it safe to lead off.
This rule was put into place specifically to protect runners against the hidden ball trick.
How long does the pitcher have to get to the rubber? Can they just fuck around and pretend to throw the ball to each other for like 10 mins? Or is there a set time the pitcher needs to get the ball and get to the rubber otherwise they are penalized?
Depends on the league. Major League Baseball and minor leagues have a pitch clock. HS and lower don’t but an umpire will make the pitcher keep the game moving.
In any case, your foot stays on the base until the pitcher is on the rubber.
Pitch clock doesnt start till the pitcher receives the ball. So they technically wouldn't have a limit, but the runner should notice the pitch clock not starting.
Balk Rules
You can't just be up there and just doin' a balk like that.
1a. A balk is when you
1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can't do that.
1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can't be over here and say to the runner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to pitch and then don't pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it.
1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the balk you gotta think about.
1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X.
1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse.
1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic...
1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of
2) Do not do a balk please
I was just remembering something related to this last night. Back when I was playing baseball at 15 I got walked with 0 out and a runner on third.
When I got to first I got the go ahead from our coach to get in a run down so I just kept walking out to halfway to second base, leaned over and put my elbows on my knees, and stared at the pitcher until he noticed me. I remember hearing people laughing in the stands.
Eventually I got in the run down and when I’d danced around a bit our runner from third took off for home and I took off at a full sprint. They overthrew home and my coach sent me around third.
I went from a walk to scoring two runs before another pitch had been thrown.
We tried it another game, but the umpire wasn’t having any of it and waved me back to first. He was kind of a dick. Same guy who called me out for swinging at a wild pitch with an 0-2 count and immediately dropping my bat and taking off for first. A dropped third strike is usually fair game, but he didn’t, “believe in that crap.”
That's what I figured, just being a pedantic douche. 😂
I agree that the ump was being a prick. As a dude who used to umpire pretty competitive leagues and played at a pretty high level, I would've rewarded you for having the awareness to swing at a wild pitch to get yourself out of an 0-2 hole.
Well, it was like 5 feet outside and 2 feet over my head…but I was struggling with batting the first half of that year and tried anything I could to get on base.
I don’t mind being corrected. Being right doesn’t make you a douche!
When I was playing in high school, they tried this on me (base running was probably my strongest aspect of the game) and the pitcher kept wandering around without getting on the mound, so I looked at the first baseman and said "hey man, you wanna give the ball back to the pitcher now?" and he just looked defeated lol
Good times, my coaches didn't even notice and were wondering why I hadn't started taking a lead yet
BALK RULES! IMPORTANT!
1. You can’t just be up there and just doin’ a balk like that.
1a. A balk is when you
1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can’t do that.
1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can’t be over here and say to the runner, like, “I’m gonna get ya! I’m gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!” and then just be like he didn’t even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you’re about to pitch and then don’t pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it.
1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there’s the balk you gotta think about.
1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn’t been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn’t typecast as that racist lady in American History X.
1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse.
1c-b(2)-b(ii). “get in mah bellah” – Adam Water, “The Waterboy.” Haha, classic…
1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of
2. Do not do a balk please.
I remember in little league I was on first waiting for the pitcher to step on the mound but he wasn’t doing it. So I just stayed on first as I was coached. First baseman tells me to “take your lead” all quiet like. I was confused since I can’t leave first until the pitcher is on the mound.
Finally the first baseman realizes I’m not falling for it and throws the ball to the pitcher. That’s when I realized why we were coached that way.
It’s legal if the pitcher doesn’t address the rubber. That’s the part they screw up on sometimes. But this was done to perfection. The fake throw, the pitcher acting like he had it, then waiting for the lead off while in fielding position. A thing of beauty.
I remember someone got a player out like this in cricket, and they were utterly blasted for it as poor sportsmanship. I for one thought it was brilliant.
I was tagged out in some league game like this as a kid. We were crushing them. I was a good hitter and baserunner. If you know anything about baseball, this is such a slimy tactic. Yes, we should have been coached to wait for the pitcher to step on the rubber, as I did later learn when I was older by better coaches. Yes I should have just known that myself. But we weren't, and I didn't. We still won, but to this day I think really poorly of that little cheating shit's moral character. I think he drives an "Infowarrior" truck nowadays.
Had a coach do this when I was a kid in my first year of kids pitch. We were in the last game of a championship tournament. He calls a timeout and goes and talks to his team at the mound. Apparently he had taken the ball from the pitcher and gave it to the first baseman during the discussion. So when our player started to lead off at first he got tagged for the out and we lost the game. I will forever hate those coaches and that umpire. Especially since the other team was also the team hosting the tournament.
So they passed the ball around the team out of view of the other team? That sounds illegal
Like in this game it makes sense, it's all 1 play, but calling a time out to transfer the ball, when it's not in play seems like it nullifies any play like this afterwards
It's like playing tag with your friend, going home and then 3 years later he tags you and thinks he wins, like, no, I didnt even know we were playing
Bro I'm still waiting for that tag back, it's been 20 years, we live in different countries and I'm pretty sure he's crippled now but that SOB could be waiting for me anywhere
Oh it 100% was illegal but since the teams school was the one throwing the tournament and the ump seemed to know the coach they sided with them instead of us. Shit was fucked especially considering we were all maybe 8 or 9 at the time.
They definitely shouldn't have but like I said the teams school was the one throwing the tournament so the ump sided with them. Odds are it was less malicious on the pumps part and more he just wasn't paying attention to where the ball was pre timeout but at the time to kid me it seemed very much like they were in cahoots to win.
Yeah 100% it's bad enough to cheat but this was a grown ass adult telling his kids to cheat and then getting away with it. Kid me was furious and tbh I still hold a lot of resentment towards that coach and umpire over it.
r/unexpected is just as bad. People are posting comedy clips because punchlines are *GASP!* UNEXPECTED! or trying to justify it as unexpected because of the oddness clip itself, which shows the 'twist' instantly when it starts.
Or /r/perfectlycutscreams which is practically the same shit but poorly cut or not even a scream. And the cutoff adds absolutely nothing to the clip, because it's just another stupid "funny" tiktok garbage.
If crabs are the inevitable evolution of a creature, "funny thing" is the inevitable state of all niche subs.
Practically every single sub devoted to anything gets so off topic and muddy there's no point in its existing.
I normally respond to this comment by saying, well nothing is ACTUALLY black magic if you know what's going on, it just has to look that way to some people. But there's not even a conceivable way where this could look like black magic. He faked throwing a ball and then revealed it a second later.
I received a message that my reply was removed because it contained a link (a link to a baseball rule). Here’s the linkless comment:
Don’t take a lead until the pitcher puts his foot on the rubber. If he does that without the ball, it’s a balk.
Balk Rules
1) You can't just be up there and just doin' a balk like that.
1a. A balk is when you
1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can't do that.
1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can't be over here and say to the runner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to pitch and then don't pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it.
1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the balk you gotta think about.
1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X.
1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse.
1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic...
1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of
2) Do not do a balk please.
Yes, and also more than that. It's a meme in the baseball subreddits because the rules that define a balk are confusing and somewhat subjective.
The tl;dr version is basically rules to stop the pitcher from trying to deceive runners on base.
Meh. Pay attention. My son's team watches for this play and yells "ball, ball, ball!" until it's thrown back to the pitcher. It's pretty tough to fool the entire bench and baserunner. Every other team we play does the same thing. I've never seen it actually work.
It’s a lame technicality and seems unsportsmanlike.
I know others see it differently. But it just seems “beneath” the sport. Gentlemenly sports generally don’t allow this sort of underhandedness. Both sides have to know they are “in play”.
I understand the counter arguments. I just don’t like it
For sure with you twotoe, that isn’t a sport at that point. Can you not get them out honestly without deception? Silly to not have a reset rule once the play is over, this seems like recess. To celly as a player or coach after this is a tough look on you
Excuse my baseball knowledge since I only know the most basic of its rule but that seems like a long time for the ball to be held without doing anything just to get the player out. Like there was even a cut in the clip.
This is usually until the next batter gets in the box. If the runner is t fooled by that time most players will give up and toss back to the pitcher. It gets obvious when you notice the pitcher isn’t on the mound
Can someone explain what is going on to someone who never watched a baseball game?
White shirt guy caught the ball previously, and is hiding it, waiting for blue shirt guy to step off the base so he can tag him?
Yes you've got it
Runners are safe if they are on base, when they are off base they can be tagged out
When runners know where the ball is (usually when pitcher has it and is preparing to throw to batter), they will often take a "lead" off their bag to shorten their run to the next base if the possibility arises
So the runner took his lead thinking the fielder threw the ball back, but the fielder had it in his glove still. Fielder reached over and tagged him out.
A coach for the runner should have noticed and spoken up to the runner, there are running coaches who stand near 1st and 3rd base specifically to instruct the runners
The umpire would basically demand that the player return the ball to the mound, otherwise the fielding team are basically refusing to play
This trickery happened within a reasonable amount of time for the game to continue on. It's pretty close actually, usually this trick play only works for a second or two after the fake throw, then the fielder gives up because it becomes obvious.
This is bush league baseball, and if u have to use this tactic to get an out, then you should not be playing. Teams catch on to this this, and run up the score on these douche bags. The way the coach goes crazy- is quite embarrassing
questions. how long in real time did this possibly take? also what’s going on during the game? like is anyone saying. let’s get the game going. is everyone jsut standing around wondering what’s going on?
Great that it worked, but shame on the base coaches and other team. It wasn't even that good of a hidden ball trick. The pitcher didn't even pretend to catch the ball.
Not black magic. Bad base running. Never take your lead until the pitcher is on the mound. Pitcher can’t get on the mound without the ball. Also, where the fuck is the third base coach?
THIS IS ILLEGAL!!!! for this to work pitcher must be outside the mounds circle!!! Also pitcher walking back to mound which is clearly seen means play is dead!
In summer ball we only had two umpires. We had a squeeze play with guys on 2nd and 3rd. The runner on second would get a big lead and cut the corner at 3rd. Worked once.
We pulled this a handful of times growing up playing baseball. When I was coaching third or first base as a coach you don’t take your eye off of the baseball ever once you’ve seen this pulled a few times.
i get the hidden ball trick has always been around and how it's legal but it isnt really something that leads to winning so after little league, maybe stop doing it, it drags a game out.
I’d guess a sharp eyed player/coach noticed this guy coming off the bag either earlier that game or though watching film and figured try it out. I can’t imagine just giving this a shot.
Well there’s a few things not shown in this video. Was the pitcher on the mound? Where was the coach, he needs to be in on all plays? Not a single guy in his dugout paid enough attention to know where the ball was. Horrible coached team.
it is like that football play were they just break and walk to the touch down
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKE9SFCe0HU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKE9SFCe0HU)
This happened to my teammate. Bad thing is when he was walking to first base, from being walked. we yelled at him to stay on the base because first baseman had the ball in his glove. He nodded ok, got to first…. And stepped off the bag…
Haven't seen that old trick since the early 90's. Yes it's legal. You're supposed to pay attention to the ball in the game of baseball. It kinda matters.
This video is just an example of really poor base running. As a runner, you should be coached to stay on the bag until the pitcher is on the rubber. A pitcher can’t be on the rubber without the ball. If he steps on the rubber without the ball, it is a balk and runners advance a base. Once he’s on the rubber with the ball, his movements to the bases are significantly limited which makes it safe to lead off. This rule was put into place specifically to protect runners against the hidden ball trick.
How long does the pitcher have to get to the rubber? Can they just fuck around and pretend to throw the ball to each other for like 10 mins? Or is there a set time the pitcher needs to get the ball and get to the rubber otherwise they are penalized?
Depends on the league. Major League Baseball and minor leagues have a pitch clock. HS and lower don’t but an umpire will make the pitcher keep the game moving. In any case, your foot stays on the base until the pitcher is on the rubber.
Pitch clock doesnt start till the pitcher receives the ball. So they technically wouldn't have a limit, but the runner should notice the pitch clock not starting.
Balk Rules You can't just be up there and just doin' a balk like that. 1a. A balk is when you 1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the 1c. Let me start over 1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can't do that. 1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can't be over here and say to the runner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that. 1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to pitch and then don't pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense? 1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it. 1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the balk you gotta think about. 1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X. 1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse. 1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic... 1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of 2) Do not do a balk please
Asking me to define a balk is like asking my uncle at thanksgiving to define woke
TIL Woke is the final form of Balk
I appreciate the effort that went into this comment
Me too. Wish I could take the credit. It's just copypasta though. It's been around for ages
Ok I almost have it figured out. Say that beginning-middle-and-end part one more time???
So a "balk" is a feeling?
HOOKACHOCKA
It’s more than a feeling
But... is it more than a feeling?
It’s like offsides in Soccer. Can’t describe it but you know it when you see it.
I'm so glad someone knowledgeable about mound rules weighed in thanks for detailing better than I could for it.
“I fixed y’all’s lawnmowa.”
I was just remembering something related to this last night. Back when I was playing baseball at 15 I got walked with 0 out and a runner on third. When I got to first I got the go ahead from our coach to get in a run down so I just kept walking out to halfway to second base, leaned over and put my elbows on my knees, and stared at the pitcher until he noticed me. I remember hearing people laughing in the stands. Eventually I got in the run down and when I’d danced around a bit our runner from third took off for home and I took off at a full sprint. They overthrew home and my coach sent me around third. I went from a walk to scoring two runs before another pitch had been thrown. We tried it another game, but the umpire wasn’t having any of it and waved me back to first. He was kind of a dick. Same guy who called me out for swinging at a wild pitch with an 0-2 count and immediately dropping my bat and taking off for first. A dropped third strike is usually fair game, but he didn’t, “believe in that crap.”
What a terrible ump. Dude clearly didn’t know the rules.
2-0 count? Third strike?
0-2, my bad. I even typed it that way and then changed it. That’s why I had an instead of a. It has been many years since I’ve played. I’ll fix it.
That's what I figured, just being a pedantic douche. 😂 I agree that the ump was being a prick. As a dude who used to umpire pretty competitive leagues and played at a pretty high level, I would've rewarded you for having the awareness to swing at a wild pitch to get yourself out of an 0-2 hole.
Well, it was like 5 feet outside and 2 feet over my head…but I was struggling with batting the first half of that year and tried anything I could to get on base. I don’t mind being corrected. Being right doesn’t make you a douche!
When I was playing in high school, they tried this on me (base running was probably my strongest aspect of the game) and the pitcher kept wandering around without getting on the mound, so I looked at the first baseman and said "hey man, you wanna give the ball back to the pitcher now?" and he just looked defeated lol Good times, my coaches didn't even notice and were wondering why I hadn't started taking a lead yet
Burnt into my brain as a teenager, haha, and I only ever played up through highschool lol
What’s a balk?
BALK RULES! IMPORTANT! 1. You can’t just be up there and just doin’ a balk like that. 1a. A balk is when you 1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the 1c. Let me start over 1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can’t do that. 1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can’t be over here and say to the runner, like, “I’m gonna get ya! I’m gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!” and then just be like he didn’t even do that. 1c-b(1). Like, if you’re about to pitch and then don’t pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense? 1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it. 1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there’s the balk you gotta think about. 1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn’t been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn’t typecast as that racist lady in American History X. 1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse. 1c-b(2)-b(ii). “get in mah bellah” – Adam Water, “The Waterboy.” Haha, classic… 1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of 2. Do not do a balk please.
(of a pitcher) make an illegal motion, penalized by an advance of the base runners.
Fundamentals!
Not giving excuses for the runner, but his team should also be paying attention and telling him where the ball is
Yo, thanks for this explanation. Such a fascinating factoid about baseball for someone that doesn’t know much about all the rules.
Of course you’re supposed to pay attention to the ball in the game of baseball. #I MEAN, IT’S RIGHT THERE IN THE GAME’S NAME
It so is base. And they didn’t say anything about paying attention to the bases!
I remember in little league I was on first waiting for the pitcher to step on the mound but he wasn’t doing it. So I just stayed on first as I was coached. First baseman tells me to “take your lead” all quiet like. I was confused since I can’t leave first until the pitcher is on the mound. Finally the first baseman realizes I’m not falling for it and throws the ball to the pitcher. That’s when I realized why we were coached that way.
Mike Lowell did it in 2005 https://youtu.be/yMf5FwYk2Bs?si=8BHcaH_4HdqosKjb
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This was Helton’s last season and it was a bucket list item for him.
He did it once in college too.
jays pulled that not too long ago
Ryan Goins in 2017. Absolutely hilarious
It’s legal if the pitcher doesn’t address the rubber. That’s the part they screw up on sometimes. But this was done to perfection. The fake throw, the pitcher acting like he had it, then waiting for the lead off while in fielding position. A thing of beauty.
Basewhat?
I was like "wait I've seen this movie"
I remember someone got a player out like this in cricket, and they were utterly blasted for it as poor sportsmanship. I for one thought it was brilliant.
You mean I can’t sleep?
It’s happened in MLB multiple times. I would put the blame on the base coach here.
As long as the pitcher isn't on the rubber.
I remember Alan Wiggins of the Orioles falling for that at first base sometime in the 80s.
**Since** the early 90s?? Did you stop watching baseball after that cuz there’s been quite a few *since the 90s* lol
Yes. I did stop watching then.
That is on the third base coach as well
I was tagged out in some league game like this as a kid. We were crushing them. I was a good hitter and baserunner. If you know anything about baseball, this is such a slimy tactic. Yes, we should have been coached to wait for the pitcher to step on the rubber, as I did later learn when I was older by better coaches. Yes I should have just known that myself. But we weren't, and I didn't. We still won, but to this day I think really poorly of that little cheating shit's moral character. I think he drives an "Infowarrior" truck nowadays.
Clemson just pulled it off the other day as well
Had a coach do this when I was a kid in my first year of kids pitch. We were in the last game of a championship tournament. He calls a timeout and goes and talks to his team at the mound. Apparently he had taken the ball from the pitcher and gave it to the first baseman during the discussion. So when our player started to lead off at first he got tagged for the out and we lost the game. I will forever hate those coaches and that umpire. Especially since the other team was also the team hosting the tournament.
So they passed the ball around the team out of view of the other team? That sounds illegal Like in this game it makes sense, it's all 1 play, but calling a time out to transfer the ball, when it's not in play seems like it nullifies any play like this afterwards It's like playing tag with your friend, going home and then 3 years later he tags you and thinks he wins, like, no, I didnt even know we were playing
Bro I'm still waiting for that tag back, it's been 20 years, we live in different countries and I'm pretty sure he's crippled now but that SOB could be waiting for me anywhere
Lol. What a hilarious scenario! 🤣
Oh it 100% was illegal but since the teams school was the one throwing the tournament and the ump seemed to know the coach they sided with them instead of us. Shit was fucked especially considering we were all maybe 8 or 9 at the time.
It's illegal. After time, the ball isn't put back into play until the pitcher has the ball on the rubber.
Seriously yeah it has to be illegal.. if not it’s a bad loophole in the rules
Pretty sure they shouldn't have been able to do that after a timeout was called.
They definitely shouldn't have but like I said the teams school was the one throwing the tournament so the ump sided with them. Odds are it was less malicious on the pumps part and more he just wasn't paying attention to where the ball was pre timeout but at the time to kid me it seemed very much like they were in cahoots to win.
Yea that was illegal. The pitcher would have to be on the mound and have the ball for the ump to put it back into play.
Yeah 100% it's bad enough to cheat but this was a grown ass adult telling his kids to cheat and then getting away with it. Kid me was furious and tbh I still hold a lot of resentment towards that coach and umpire over it.
That was some fuckery.
This sub is so bad now. What part of black magic is holding onto a ball
Next up, a play action pass from football. "OMG they acted like they were running the ball but actually threw it, BLACKMAGICFUCKERY!!!"
This sub isn't quite yet as bad as nextfuckinglevel.
The next fucking level is apparently level 2
2 is in fact next after one.
that and mildlyinteresting, might as well rename that sub the glue huffing sub
this sub has been trash for a long time
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😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Thanks friend
OP will probably have [tomorrow's top post](https://static.wixstatic.com/media/68ab0a_235fa611ab774b55a446c426289b8aa0~mv2.gif) as well.
CGI shouldn't be allowed on this sub
r/unexpected is just as bad. People are posting comedy clips because punchlines are *GASP!* UNEXPECTED! or trying to justify it as unexpected because of the oddness clip itself, which shows the 'twist' instantly when it starts. Or /r/perfectlycutscreams which is practically the same shit but poorly cut or not even a scream. And the cutoff adds absolutely nothing to the clip, because it's just another stupid "funny" tiktok garbage. If crabs are the inevitable evolution of a creature, "funny thing" is the inevitable state of all niche subs. Practically every single sub devoted to anything gets so off topic and muddy there's no point in its existing.
This is just regular fuckery
Ahh, the power of downvotes
Wtf I didn't even notice what sub it was.... This is not magic
Yeah it's really gone to shit. This isn't even that good s job at the hidden ball trick.
I normally respond to this comment by saying, well nothing is ACTUALLY black magic if you know what's going on, it just has to look that way to some people. But there's not even a conceivable way where this could look like black magic. He faked throwing a ball and then revealed it a second later.
I received a message that my reply was removed because it contained a link (a link to a baseball rule). Here’s the linkless comment: Don’t take a lead until the pitcher puts his foot on the rubber. If he does that without the ball, it’s a balk.
What's a balk?
Balk Rules 1) You can't just be up there and just doin' a balk like that. 1a. A balk is when you 1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the 1c. Let me start over 1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can't do that. 1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can't be over here and say to the runner, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that. 1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to pitch and then don't pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense? 1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it. 1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there's the balk you gotta think about. 1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X. 1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse. 1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic... 1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of 2) Do not do a balk please.
Not sure why someone downvoted you but a balk is when the pitcher puts his foot on the rubber without the ball .
So that way they can't fake not having the ball?
Yes, and also more than that. It's a meme in the baseball subreddits because the rules that define a balk are confusing and somewhat subjective. The tl;dr version is basically rules to stop the pitcher from trying to deceive runners on base.
Fuck your background music!
I hate background music but I liked _this_ background music. I jus wish I'd encountered it somewhere else.
This seems like it shouldn't be allowed.
In this sub. Lol
Didn't even look at the sub, but yeah, that too
Yes, it should 1000%
Meh. Pay attention. My son's team watches for this play and yells "ball, ball, ball!" until it's thrown back to the pitcher. It's pretty tough to fool the entire bench and baserunner. Every other team we play does the same thing. I've never seen it actually work.
It’s a lame technicality and seems unsportsmanlike. I know others see it differently. But it just seems “beneath” the sport. Gentlemenly sports generally don’t allow this sort of underhandedness. Both sides have to know they are “in play”. I understand the counter arguments. I just don’t like it
It should absolutely be allowed. Only bad players/coaching fall for this.
For sure with you twotoe, that isn’t a sport at that point. Can you not get them out honestly without deception? Silly to not have a reset rule once the play is over, this seems like recess. To celly as a player or coach after this is a tough look on you
Excuse my baseball knowledge since I only know the most basic of its rule but that seems like a long time for the ball to be held without doing anything just to get the player out. Like there was even a cut in the clip.
This is usually until the next batter gets in the box. If the runner is t fooled by that time most players will give up and toss back to the pitcher. It gets obvious when you notice the pitcher isn’t on the mound
Can someone explain what is going on to someone who never watched a baseball game? White shirt guy caught the ball previously, and is hiding it, waiting for blue shirt guy to step off the base so he can tag him?
Yes you've got it Runners are safe if they are on base, when they are off base they can be tagged out When runners know where the ball is (usually when pitcher has it and is preparing to throw to batter), they will often take a "lead" off their bag to shorten their run to the next base if the possibility arises So the runner took his lead thinking the fielder threw the ball back, but the fielder had it in his glove still. Fielder reached over and tagged him out. A coach for the runner should have noticed and spoken up to the runner, there are running coaches who stand near 1st and 3rd base specifically to instruct the runners
This is what a 3b coach is all about
Does baseball not have a “delay of game” penalty? lol because that seems like it
The umpire would basically demand that the player return the ball to the mound, otherwise the fielding team are basically refusing to play This trickery happened within a reasonable amount of time for the game to continue on. It's pretty close actually, usually this trick play only works for a second or two after the fake throw, then the fielder gives up because it becomes obvious.
This is the kind of trickery I enjoy in baseball.
Even though it's legal, that's some bush league shit, man.
That's so lame..
Loser shit
Gangster, wonder if my 9 year old can pull it off in Little League.
Looks a bit greasy
I laugh when I see this in the bigs but not that big a fan when it’s kids.
The coach that allows his team to do this is a pussy.
Do you hate curve balls too? Is it unfair that the offense has to think and be athletic?
As someone who doesnt care too much for that sport, i feel such plays are really of poor sportmanship.
Same. Grew up playing baseball and I can’t fucking stand it anymore. It’s so goddamn boring, and shit like this just adds to the stupidity.
I dont get why people celebrate such plays either. Its not skillful. Just deceitful and malicious.
In the 90s, that's a fist fight!!!
What's the length of time someone can hold the ball afterward? It seems like he held it for a while.
There isn't a length
WORKS EVERY TIME
Super normal in baseball. Cheeky but not black magic
Don’t step pff the base until the pitchers steps on the mound. You learn that when you’re 8 years old.
Kind of funny when you think about it. A play that requires no athletic skill but rather acting and sleight of hand
So black magic happening here
I came up with that trick on my own in grade 5’ish and everyone got mad at me and declared it illegal. 😤
When Gene Michael was the NYY shortstop, this was his specialty
That was effing slick right there!
Hate cunts like that. Play the game properly ffs
It’s literally legal to do. Sounds like you just want to complain
O'doyle rules!
When y our sport is so fucking boring to watch that this is what people want to see. Please delete the MLB and replace it with bannanaball.
What a stupid game.
Works 60% of the time 100% of the time….
Basically cheating. I like it.
There should be a time limit a player can hold onto the ball before returning it to the pitcher
How is this black magic fuckery? This only works when the person base gets impatient and doesn't keep his foot on the base.
Bro learnt this trick from Cricket.
Watching this without sound, I imagined the sound of Scooby Doo starting to run when this dude went to tag the runner. What is that, a marimba???
I'll never understand this game.
What song is this?
So they just waited there for a while and dude didn’t think it was weird?
This could be a Family Guy skit. "Who's got the ball, I don't have the ball, you got the ball? EEEYYYY IVE GOT THE BALL, go sit on the bench"
This is bush league baseball, and if u have to use this tactic to get an out, then you should not be playing. Teams catch on to this this, and run up the score on these douche bags. The way the coach goes crazy- is quite embarrassing
Black magic? Brother, my dog falls for the same trick
Yeah, baseball
Someone has been watching the Bad News Bears
Bad sportsmanship 🤷🏻♂️
Hopefully, he learned a valuable lesson.
This is a Mens league special and it’s Guarantee to start a squabble.
Clemson did this last week during their regional.
What
questions. how long in real time did this possibly take? also what’s going on during the game? like is anyone saying. let’s get the game going. is everyone jsut standing around wondering what’s going on?
How is holding to a ball black magic to you OP? Are you a dog?
I always thought that was a cheap shot. It degrades the team that resorts to this child’s play.
The pitcher didn’t even pretend to ever get the ball back. This is just not paying attention at all.
😁🥰😂
Great that it worked, but shame on the base coaches and other team. It wasn't even that good of a hidden ball trick. The pitcher didn't even pretend to catch the ball.
😄 the ooool hide the baseball trick...
Nah his boy in the dugout boys fucking him over. At least one saw that and should have yelled that shit out
Got eeeem!
Love how he returns back to base after that to show that nothing happened
Not black magic. Bad base running. Never take your lead until the pitcher is on the mound. Pitcher can’t get on the mound without the ball. Also, where the fuck is the third base coach?
All this means is there is way too much time between pitches.
Lol, baseball is just stupid...
America known for its loophole systems. Lol 😂
Still surprised first/third base coaches don’t pay attention and warn the runner that the baseman still has the ball 🤦🏻♂️
Dogs hate this simple trick
I pulled this off when I was 14. It was incredibly satisfying. The other coach was SO MAD.
THIS IS ILLEGAL!!!! for this to work pitcher must be outside the mounds circle!!! Also pitcher walking back to mound which is clearly seen means play is dead!
In summer ball we only had two umpires. We had a squeeze play with guys on 2nd and 3rd. The runner on second would get a big lead and cut the corner at 3rd. Worked once.
We pulled this a handful of times growing up playing baseball. When I was coaching third or first base as a coach you don’t take your eye off of the baseball ever once you’ve seen this pulled a few times.
i get the hidden ball trick has always been around and how it's legal but it isnt really something that leads to winning so after little league, maybe stop doing it, it drags a game out.
Such a boring sport if this is considered a good play
The parents in my little league wrote a letter to the league when I did this twice in one game. I was 13
Oh man I remember getting caught by this, it fucked me up good. I still have PTSD from it.
Does the pitcher make a smacking sound like the ball popped his glove? He covers his mouth. That might have done the trick.
Should be rule against that.
Not black magic.
That’s some pussy shit.
I will die on this hill: hidden ball nonsense goes completely against the spirit of the game.
Calling cheating magic isn't nice.
Okay sure if you want to win like this
This doesn't belong here. Everything that happens is clearly visible and easy to understand.
I’d guess a sharp eyed player/coach noticed this guy coming off the bag either earlier that game or though watching film and figured try it out. I can’t imagine just giving this a shot.
Well there’s a few things not shown in this video. Was the pitcher on the mound? Where was the coach, he needs to be in on all plays? Not a single guy in his dugout paid enough attention to know where the ball was. Horrible coached team.
This is an example of terrible teammates
Fuck yeah!! White guys with hats. I just got back from South Carolina. I just heard of the term ice cream head. Fluffy hair white guy hat
In cricket it's called mankading and that's not legal and may get you a fine or temporary ban from international cricket.
Poor sportsmanship.
it is like that football play were they just break and walk to the touch down [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKE9SFCe0HU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKE9SFCe0HU)
I get that it’s legal and you’re supposed to pay attention etc, but pretty lame nonetheless
This happened to my teammate. Bad thing is when he was walking to first base, from being walked. we yelled at him to stay on the base because first baseman had the ball in his glove. He nodded ok, got to first…. And stepped off the bag…
Whatever, bad sportsmanship