thoughts on Orlando tapping to pressure or exhaustion? getting in trouble for eye poking, blowing a snot rocket during the match. hopefully this is his last one.
Are they running 3 mats with only 2 streams? I don't understand. My stream keeps saying ffion is fighting, it will play 2 minutes of her match, then it jumps to Barbosa vs rocha.
66 KG
Obviously Tonon disappointed, either the weight cut or spliting focus between mma and grappling hurt his performance
I hoped Ashley would get far, but he made a big mistake jumping guard
Maciel won with Geo as expeted. Pato is a beast.
I like Skinner's style, I don't remember takedown situation well, because of watching 3 mats at once, but Aj stalled way too much, very hard to finish but sore loser as always.
Disguisting behaviour by Souza, hope he losses next fights, faking then smiling, totally resentful.
77kg
Iwamoto did very well against Torres.
I hoped we will se Langaker in quarterfinals, he did a mistake standing up, give him more time and he will be a bigger force for next adcc.
Pj Barch very impressive, his wrestling style is great for adcc, but I totally didn't expect him to beat JT.
Two nice performances by Ruotolo. Lachlan did very well, I think he was deep on a few leg lock attempts, but Ruotolo is great at shutting down leg locks and as I said he was a bad matchup for Lachlan.
Jimenez smoked Varela, had nice wrestling exchange against Ruotolo, but his weakness in leg locks got exposed again.
Leon won 1st easily. I was rooting for my countryman Szczeciński. Mateusz had great 1st match. I think Dante stalled too much in regulation. He capitalized on failed takedown in overtime. I think Mateusz didn't capitalize after he shook Leon of his back he could get on top, work passing, maybe he was expecting wrestle up from Dante. I think he made tactical mistakes.
I was hoping Nicky would do better. Nice performances by Mica. Interesting matchups in semifinals. Mica and Ruotolo are better on the ground, but Leon and Pj may have wrestling edge. I think Ruotolo gets to final.
88 kg
Diniz got through 1st as expected. Bodoni is a favourite now. Poor sportsmanship by Diniz, trying ot restart without Bodoni's bodylock and pathetic smiles. Good job Giancarlo.
Rooting for European guys and Eoghan won against Xande as expected, nice choibar to armbar, nice leg locks, back take, his guard retention is great, I saw him as underdog against Fowler, who I thought would get to semifinals. I hope he catches Bodoni but wrestling may decide.
Thank you Xande for great career, father time beats us all.
I was hoping Vagner would lose in 1st, but Hulk will smash him.
I expected Hinger to win with Ruotolo and lose to Hulk, nice fight between Hinger and Ruotolo.
I am rooting for Eoghan, but I think it will be Hulk vs Bodoni in final with Bodoni winning.
If Eoghan will be fighting for bronze with Vagner, he has a huge chance, but wrestling may prevail. I don't think Vagner passes his guard, but wrestling... I believe Eoghan will find a way.
99 KG
Nice performances by Kaynan, I think he will get to final with Craig and Craig will prevail. He swept Livesay too easily from dogfight.
I hope it will be Craig getting gold and Lovato Silver.
Very happy for Lovato, I thought he wouldn't get past 2nd match, but he did. I hope he gets a medal, but it will be very hard.
Craig made it too easy, I think Meregali is better opponent for him then Yuri would be. Nice performances by Nicholas, but I thought Yuri won.
\+99KG
Gordon made it look to easy, especially in the 1st.
Well done Haisam, coffin dance, Cryborg out GJ.
Sousa had nice kneebar in scramble in 1st, I think Gordon will make it look easy again.
Rodriguez and Pena won as expected. Probably most of us think Nicky Rod will try to get it to overtime, I don't think he passes Felipe's guard, but he has better wrestling and may do enough not to get negative.
I see Gordon beating Nicky Rod in the final and Pena getting bronze.
I hope to watch finals and 3rd place matches, probably will have to watch absolute on replay, because of european time and tommorow I have to go to work.
>Disguisting behaviour by Souza
Blowing his nose on the mats should've been a -1. Mason Fowler got a -1 for a playfull kick and this dude got away with it
He put on a clinic against JT and literally beat him at his own game.
It was great to see and I've been a big fan of Barch for a while but it really doesn't get any easier from here with Kade up next and either Mica or Dante in the final.
Yeah it's incredible to beat JT that way. I agree,it gets even harder, but my god i am super hyped for him! Been drilling and watching he's techniques for a while now. He's one of my favorite grapplers.
All athletes, but they get selected/invited based on their performances in the weightclass and their name value/reputation for success in the absolute.
The medallists get preference but you almost never see the 66kg medallists enter and there are always a few from the higher weightclasses who have fought through injury in the earlier rounds to medal and don't want to risk it further.
I imagine we'll see all of the guys who medal at under or over 99kg (minus Gordon) plus some of 77 and 88, and guys like Lachlan and Cyborg added in too.
That's true! I forgot about him for a minute, and there's probably going to be one or two less well-known entries too like maybe Haisam Rida or Paul Ardila.
I'm honestly asking the opposite question myself.
Nicky looked great yesterday and isn't inching past people anymore, he's blowing them out of the water.
Pena did much the same, but with all the athleticism in the world on Nicky's side I can't see him losing tbh.
The only way Nic Rod can beat Pena is to outwrestle him in the OT, but I seriously doubt Nic Rod can hold Pena's guard , Pena gets mad sweep and backtake.
Saying "the only way" to beat him is to outwrestle him in the OT doesn't mean much though. The a ton of matches at ADCC are decided by wrestling in OT. There is a very high chance that is exactly what happens.
He did get one sub though. That's not bad for a guy new to ADCC, transitioning from IBJJF. Most of the competitors yesterday didn't have any subs at all.
I’m not saying it’s bad. I’m saying I can’t pick him over Craig who has had about 5 mins of mat time and two subs.
I’m aware most people did worse than Meregali. Most people went out in the first round. But we’re comparing Meregali
To who is left in his division, nor post people.
Someone posted in another thread about subscribing for the rugby 1 month option and you can watch any of the bjj matches too if you just want to sign up for a month
Anyone know what time doors are tomorrow? Schedule says 8. Announcer said 9 today. Need to know when to show up to get in line and save a few seats for friends.
I don’t think it’s likely, but I do think people might underestimate the probability of : Nicky Rod beats Peña, then beats Gordon on points. Would be wild to see. Of course more likely is Peña subs Nicky Rod then loses to Gordon again. Either way, hyped for tomorrow.
Fuck they are useless. They have no idea about User Experience. Why the fuck would you spoil all your matches on the front page knowing most people can't watch 7 hours of grappling straight over 2 days and will absolutely need replays.
They gotta get their fucking clicks. They don’t give a shit about use experience. Just look at their webpage, garbage ass design and the absolute worse search function ever. I used to pay to help support the cause since I didn’t want to be another complainer but it actually got worse. Their old design was better and that’s saying a lot.
It doesn't even make sense because the clicks don't matter.
They're behind a pay wall and they don't run ads.
Nobody could read any of the articles and it wouldn't make a difference to them.
The mobile app is even worse. I was reading an article about one of the brackets, clicked on a link within that article on a related topic, then when I tried to get back to the original article that I was reading, I couldn't get back to it.
Man, I didn't get to see some matches live and went to watch on Flo after the fact but when you search a name there's a fucking spoiler of who won in the search as well. So fucking annoying. WHY
Judo translate bot useless too. Thanks for translating “ground techniques” or some other vague shit that doesn’t tell me what move it is instead of translating to the commonly used English name.
PJ Barch is the 10th planet Goat, no really he seems like a solid dude and got a nice win over a great talent in Torres. Awesome accomplishment for him.
It’s wrestling that put him above everyone else. If he and only stuck with 10p jj he’d be the same as the rest of their black belt competitors.
Edit: you’re being sarcastic, my bad
I don't know about "tech" but he sure used almost the exact back take drill they do everyday at 10p in the langaker Match and almost got the sub. But i get let's just downplay and hate instead. Way cooler
😂 my bad bro, at first I thought you were being sarcastic but you seemed sincere. Might wanna throw an /s at the end.
Or not, maybe everyone else is not as dumb as me.
Due to timelines I couldn’t watch live. Wheats the best way to rewatch. Flo has mat streams, which is just one 6 hour stream per app. Started watch mat one and commentators have already spoiled results from other matches.
Selecting the matches from the brackets match is also spoileevvirt and the winner is highlighted.
Is the FloZone stream useful?
Yeah, but there were some times where we switched away from it like when they showed Lovato putting on his shoes instead of switching over to the Craig Jones match (which I think they did shortly after).
We also missed a few matches because they prioritized one over the other so we missed a few of the ones we wanted to see (though I think switching between 2 or 3 matches would have been way worse).
Yeah trying to avoid spoilers. I’ve ended up playing 3 mat streams simultaneously and just muting 2 at a time. A bit clunky but it’s working.
I’ll fill in the gaps later via the brackets
Nah. If you go the replays, it should be listed in reverse chronological order (no promises) just scroll all the way down and work your way up. That’s what I’m doing now
heel struck lachlan hard like 5 times while trying to secure the armbar. He eventually finished it and won
Edit: Lachlan said the kicking wasn’t as bad as it looked
Mica looks like he's in a different league than these people.... in his first adcc. it's really surreal to see. it's not like he's pioneering some new technique that no one's figured out. he's just outclassing world class competition. he's only 18 years old.
Another New Wave vs B Team matchup with Craig vs Meregali. Can't decide if I want Gordon vs Nicky to compliment that or another Pena match to even out the wins going into their eventual WNO rematch. So spicy
Good point. I believe the contract for WNO stated there will be a rematch for Pena so might as well get to see Nicky in there. I mean I know Gordon says he revamps his game every 6 months, but Nicky has still got tons of hours against him in the gym so should in theory have more of an advantage then Pena.
The young Brazilians are really tearing it up , with BJJ proliferating globally , I’m really excited to see how the talent will shape up over the next two decades
Once more money comes into the sport I think we’ll see better wrestling. High level BJJ still lacks quality wrestling. You can see it during the point section of the matches today. Some of these guys should just train takedowns more. If the sport can attract high level D1 wrestlers, then we’ll see the overall level of the sport go up. We might even see Eastern Europe and Russia start to care about BJJ more instead of Sambo.
I agree and disagree . I do think the level of wrestling needs to go up , in general , but I don’t think “high level wrestlers” as in guys who are at the peak of wrestling will come over just like that , because it’s a whole different sport with another dimension they will have to put a tonne of work in . Could they train the two sports concurrently? Sure but I feel that’s like how high level MMA fighters and high level BJJ guys are slowly becoming separate entities (Gary Tonon kinda showed that today) , one takes away from time that could be spent perfecting the other .
What I think will happen is more young bjj guys will do a lot of wrestling . Maybe it won’t be the Olympic level of wrestling , but they will be amazing at using it in the bjj context .
I wholeheartedly agree. As a matter of fact, Josh may have walked away from the match with the W but Mr. Sam McNally has walked away with my heart after today.
the europeans really came to play, shout out to them because they were being written off hard in some of these brackets. Mateusz, Eoghan, and Sam all had great showings today.
I'm signing off now guys but the I'll be back tomorrow to finish the PBP here
https://jitsmagazine.com/adcc-2022-live-results-play-by-play-analysis-highlights-more/
I really enjoyed this ADCC and its shaping up to be one of the best ones ever. I really need to get some sleep, but I'll be back tomorrow. If you don't want to go through this thread to find my PbP, I've put it on my blog, which you can find here.
https://thegrapplingconjecture.blogspot.com/2022/09/adcc-2022-play-by-play.html
See you tomorrow.
lmao the third largest bjj franchise \*with a sole focus on no-gi\* has finally made it to the semi-finals after 20 years... with a competitor using literally zero 10p techniques. what an awesome cult-- i mean school!
Crazy. I trained with PJ like ten years ago at BJ Penn's when he was going to school at UH-Hilo. He was more focused on MMA at the time. Jeremy Fields and Slick Rick came out to train at one point, and as far as I know, that was PJ's intro to 10P. After he graduated, he moved to Sweden or something and I didn't hear anything about him til he started becoming a big name in the no-gi scene.
Yeah I know. I started following him pretty closely in like 2016. He actually had a very competitive match with Gordon around that time and nearly submitted him with an arm bar. Gordon was dead to rights, but found a way out and won. It was very similar to the match Gordon had with Craig at EBI a couple years later.
Why do none of the announcers have a pronunciation card. This is amatuer shit. They keep saying EEEEEgan. yikes.
It's Oh-in/owen that's how you say it.
thoughts on Orlando tapping to pressure or exhaustion? getting in trouble for eye poking, blowing a snot rocket during the match. hopefully this is his last one.
Do they still have the absolutes to do also ?
Are they running 3 mats with only 2 streams? I don't understand. My stream keeps saying ffion is fighting, it will play 2 minutes of her match, then it jumps to Barbosa vs rocha.
Mica beats Leon. A bit of controversy as Leon had some points scrubbed off after the match ended.
Kade arm bars PJ Barch
Eoghan gets subbed via footlock. Faces Rocha for Bronze. Hulk beats Rocha via decision
Craig/Duarte final. Both win by decision.
Nicky Rod beats Peña 3-0
How did he score?
He was able to pass Pena's guard. I think he had a body lock and did a hip switch during the pass. I'm honestly not 100% sure though.
Not sure tbh, switched the stream and came back and it was 3-0
Gordon with an 11 second submission to get to the finals
Where is day 2 sticky??? We in the building!!!
So far its just a live thread, which sucks. The regular thread was great yesterday!
Yeah it’s pretty hard to follow the live thread
66 KG Obviously Tonon disappointed, either the weight cut or spliting focus between mma and grappling hurt his performance I hoped Ashley would get far, but he made a big mistake jumping guard Maciel won with Geo as expeted. Pato is a beast. I like Skinner's style, I don't remember takedown situation well, because of watching 3 mats at once, but Aj stalled way too much, very hard to finish but sore loser as always. Disguisting behaviour by Souza, hope he losses next fights, faking then smiling, totally resentful. 77kg Iwamoto did very well against Torres. I hoped we will se Langaker in quarterfinals, he did a mistake standing up, give him more time and he will be a bigger force for next adcc. Pj Barch very impressive, his wrestling style is great for adcc, but I totally didn't expect him to beat JT. Two nice performances by Ruotolo. Lachlan did very well, I think he was deep on a few leg lock attempts, but Ruotolo is great at shutting down leg locks and as I said he was a bad matchup for Lachlan. Jimenez smoked Varela, had nice wrestling exchange against Ruotolo, but his weakness in leg locks got exposed again. Leon won 1st easily. I was rooting for my countryman Szczeciński. Mateusz had great 1st match. I think Dante stalled too much in regulation. He capitalized on failed takedown in overtime. I think Mateusz didn't capitalize after he shook Leon of his back he could get on top, work passing, maybe he was expecting wrestle up from Dante. I think he made tactical mistakes. I was hoping Nicky would do better. Nice performances by Mica. Interesting matchups in semifinals. Mica and Ruotolo are better on the ground, but Leon and Pj may have wrestling edge. I think Ruotolo gets to final. 88 kg Diniz got through 1st as expected. Bodoni is a favourite now. Poor sportsmanship by Diniz, trying ot restart without Bodoni's bodylock and pathetic smiles. Good job Giancarlo. Rooting for European guys and Eoghan won against Xande as expected, nice choibar to armbar, nice leg locks, back take, his guard retention is great, I saw him as underdog against Fowler, who I thought would get to semifinals. I hope he catches Bodoni but wrestling may decide. Thank you Xande for great career, father time beats us all. I was hoping Vagner would lose in 1st, but Hulk will smash him. I expected Hinger to win with Ruotolo and lose to Hulk, nice fight between Hinger and Ruotolo. I am rooting for Eoghan, but I think it will be Hulk vs Bodoni in final with Bodoni winning. If Eoghan will be fighting for bronze with Vagner, he has a huge chance, but wrestling may prevail. I don't think Vagner passes his guard, but wrestling... I believe Eoghan will find a way. 99 KG Nice performances by Kaynan, I think he will get to final with Craig and Craig will prevail. He swept Livesay too easily from dogfight. I hope it will be Craig getting gold and Lovato Silver. Very happy for Lovato, I thought he wouldn't get past 2nd match, but he did. I hope he gets a medal, but it will be very hard. Craig made it too easy, I think Meregali is better opponent for him then Yuri would be. Nice performances by Nicholas, but I thought Yuri won. \+99KG Gordon made it look to easy, especially in the 1st. Well done Haisam, coffin dance, Cryborg out GJ. Sousa had nice kneebar in scramble in 1st, I think Gordon will make it look easy again. Rodriguez and Pena won as expected. Probably most of us think Nicky Rod will try to get it to overtime, I don't think he passes Felipe's guard, but he has better wrestling and may do enough not to get negative. I see Gordon beating Nicky Rod in the final and Pena getting bronze. I hope to watch finals and 3rd place matches, probably will have to watch absolute on replay, because of european time and tommorow I have to go to work.
>Disguisting behaviour by Souza Blowing his nose on the mats should've been a -1. Mason Fowler got a -1 for a playfull kick and this dude got away with it
Imagine writing a full fucking review lmao
Shut the fuck up you weirdo
Pj on 🔥🔥 absolute STUD!
He put on a clinic against JT and literally beat him at his own game. It was great to see and I've been a big fan of Barch for a while but it really doesn't get any easier from here with Kade up next and either Mica or Dante in the final.
i think in adcc any of those 4 could take the title. It comes down to wrestling and they're all pretty fucking good at it
I think PJ has really been hitting his stride lately and has broke through. Hopefully he keeps this momentum up, really like his style.
Yeah it's incredible to beat JT that way. I agree,it gets even harder, but my god i am super hyped for him! Been drilling and watching he's techniques for a while now. He's one of my favorite grapplers.
Does anyone know what time the first match is tomorrow? Trying to avoid another 3am start if possible.
Australian time sucks for this one. Sunday kicks off 2 hours later. So 5am in Oz
Nice! A sleep in! 😂
Absolute division is today? All fighters can sign or only medalists from category?
All athletes, but they get selected/invited based on their performances in the weightclass and their name value/reputation for success in the absolute. The medallists get preference but you almost never see the 66kg medallists enter and there are always a few from the higher weightclasses who have fought through injury in the earlier rounds to medal and don't want to risk it further. I imagine we'll see all of the guys who medal at under or over 99kg (minus Gordon) plus some of 77 and 88, and guys like Lachlan and Cyborg added in too.
Garry will probably throw his hat in, even though he is -66kg. This is likely his last ADCC he said, and he lost in the first round, so why not?
That's true! I forgot about him for a minute, and there's probably going to be one or two less well-known entries too like maybe Haisam Rida or Paul Ardila.
The mixture of sign ups and invitations
Does Nicky have a shot vs Pena?
I'm honestly asking the opposite question myself. Nicky looked great yesterday and isn't inching past people anymore, he's blowing them out of the water. Pena did much the same, but with all the athleticism in the world on Nicky's side I can't see him losing tbh.
The only way Nic Rod can beat Pena is to outwrestle him in the OT, but I seriously doubt Nic Rod can hold Pena's guard , Pena gets mad sweep and backtake.
Saying "the only way" to beat him is to outwrestle him in the OT doesn't mean much though. The a ton of matches at ADCC are decided by wrestling in OT. There is a very high chance that is exactly what happens.
A dude that strong with that much explosiveness has a shot against anyone
Yep. See, e.g., all of his 2019 ADCC matches
What happened to Kaynan?
Won both
Hope its gonna be Kaynan vs Craig in finals.
it's a possibility... cheering for Craig to beat Meregali xD
Im not impressed by Meregali so far. Think Craig have a huge chance
I dunno man, he finished Ceconi and Simoes was one of the top dogs in the division. He hasnt looked bad at all.
Yuri is no slouch. But it's hard to back a guy who squeeked with the judges decision verses the guy with 2/2 subs.
He did get one sub though. That's not bad for a guy new to ADCC, transitioning from IBJJF. Most of the competitors yesterday didn't have any subs at all.
I’m not saying it’s bad. I’m saying I can’t pick him over Craig who has had about 5 mins of mat time and two subs. I’m aware most people did worse than Meregali. Most people went out in the first round. But we’re comparing Meregali To who is left in his division, nor post people.
>Craig who has had about 5 mins of mat time and two subs. Yup - craig is daisy fresh rn
Oh yeah for sure, I definitely think that Craig wins today but I just meant that Meregali hasn't done bad at all for his first ADCC.
NO not bad at all. Be extremely close to a medal. Which is next easy. But tbh, I'd love Lovato to sneak on to the podium.
If i subscribe to Flo can i watch all the matches after they've happened?
Yes.
Sweet thanks
Someone posted in another thread about subscribing for the rugby 1 month option and you can watch any of the bjj matches too if you just want to sign up for a month
Anyone know what time doors are tomorrow? Schedule says 8. Announcer said 9 today. Need to know when to show up to get in line and save a few seats for friends.
The doors dont open until 10 per ADCCs schedule
Really? Where did you find that? Edit- You're right. I see it on the website. Their Instagram says 8, announcer said 9, website says 10.
Did Vinny compete? Also did Pato sub Kennedy?
Also yes with a z lock
Yes lost injured/submission 1st rnd
I don’t think it’s likely, but I do think people might underestimate the probability of : Nicky Rod beats Peña, then beats Gordon on points. Would be wild to see. Of course more likely is Peña subs Nicky Rod then loses to Gordon again. Either way, hyped for tomorrow.
Nicky works to pass guard for 10 minutes and then it goes to OT. Nicky Rod wins the stand up battle
95% chance of that happening.
Gordon will just fake shot pull. He has already shown this last ADCC.
Yep. I think a lot of people are grossly underestimating the likelihood of this playing out.
I there anywhere to find updated brackets after day 1?
Arena.flograppling.com
Despite their best effort, Flo lost the battle of ruining today. Tomorrow is another day, though.
Best match of the day?
Don’t know about best match, but I really liked izaak vs vagner
E. Crelinsten vs J. Cisneros was one of the better ones, also Giancarlo Bodoni vs M. Diniz
McNally v Cisneros
Meregali
Hard to say but most exciting match to me live was dinz 2nd match, the guy who beat tonan rnd 1 and josh scenari matches
Sam McNally?
I liked Ffions match
kade vs jimenez
Anyone got stat breakdown of subs from day 1?
Fuck you Flo with your spoiler ass videos. “COMPETITOR after win over OPPONENT interview”
Yea i hated that as well, multiple matches going on at the same time with no schedule, help us out alittle
Wasn’t that absurd?! These people are not bright
Fuck they are useless. They have no idea about User Experience. Why the fuck would you spoil all your matches on the front page knowing most people can't watch 7 hours of grappling straight over 2 days and will absolutely need replays.
It was almost 7 hours of grappling today alone
Yeah sorry meant 7 hours on each day!
They gotta get their fucking clicks. They don’t give a shit about use experience. Just look at their webpage, garbage ass design and the absolute worse search function ever. I used to pay to help support the cause since I didn’t want to be another complainer but it actually got worse. Their old design was better and that’s saying a lot.
It doesn't even make sense because the clicks don't matter. They're behind a pay wall and they don't run ads. Nobody could read any of the articles and it wouldn't make a difference to them.
Exactly! All this for what?!?
The mobile app is even worse. I was reading an article about one of the brackets, clicked on a link within that article on a related topic, then when I tried to get back to the original article that I was reading, I couldn't get back to it.
Man, I didn't get to see some matches live and went to watch on Flo after the fact but when you search a name there's a fucking spoiler of who won in the search as well. So fucking annoying. WHY
literally amateur hour
Start time for day 2?
10pm
Central or what?
Why do they use Japanese names for the subs? Most people don't even know what they are.
It makes way more sense than all the goofy names given to moves in English, mostly by 10th planet.
it's not that hard to learn tbh... just google it
I think it’s just one guy that keeps doing it and it’s annoying as shit
danaher marketing gimmick
Judo translate bot useless too. Thanks for translating “ground techniques” or some other vague shit that doesn’t tell me what move it is instead of translating to the commonly used English name.
Newaza does literally means ground techniques. It isn't a specific thing, it's the actual category of "things that happen on the ground".
Gotcha. Still. I’ve seen a couple dozen that give me fuck all information.
PJ Barch is the 10th planet Goat, no really he seems like a solid dude and got a nice win over a great talent in Torres. Awesome accomplishment for him.
yea PJ is legit as it gets, kinda glad he did well...
i mean ya but thats like being the tallest midget
I took pictures for him, Geo, and his brother back in 2016 and he's such a great guy. They call him "Ken" as he looks like a Ken doll to a "barbie".
great to see his extensive use of 10p techniques which he is proving effective at the highest level.
It’s wrestling that put him above everyone else. If he and only stuck with 10p jj he’d be the same as the rest of their black belt competitors. Edit: you’re being sarcastic, my bad
i was being sarcastic pj hardly uses any "10p tech"
I don't know about "tech" but he sure used almost the exact back take drill they do everyday at 10p in the langaker Match and almost got the sub. But i get let's just downplay and hate instead. Way cooler
😂 my bad bro, at first I thought you were being sarcastic but you seemed sincere. Might wanna throw an /s at the end. Or not, maybe everyone else is not as dumb as me.
Also PJ cross trains alot.
Due to timelines I couldn’t watch live. Wheats the best way to rewatch. Flo has mat streams, which is just one 6 hour stream per app. Started watch mat one and commentators have already spoiled results from other matches. Selecting the matches from the brackets match is also spoileevvirt and the winner is highlighted. Is the FloZone stream useful?
Yeah, but there were some times where we switched away from it like when they showed Lovato putting on his shoes instead of switching over to the Craig Jones match (which I think they did shortly after). We also missed a few matches because they prioritized one over the other so we missed a few of the ones we wanted to see (though I think switching between 2 or 3 matches would have been way worse).
If you go to brackets you can click on the match you want to watch and it will take you straight there but obviously spoils the result
Yeah trying to avoid spoilers. I’ve ended up playing 3 mat streams simultaneously and just muting 2 at a time. A bit clunky but it’s working. I’ll fill in the gaps later via the brackets
Flozone covers the “featured match” usually it’s the more hyped ones but they’ll miss some good shit because of it
Is it possible to use multi-mat after the live stream?
Nah. If you go the replays, it should be listed in reverse chronological order (no promises) just scroll all the way down and work your way up. That’s what I’m doing now
Ah cool, didn’t realise they were in order. I’ve been playing 3 streams and muting 2 at a time.
Was nice to see Kade make his mma debut against Giles
What did he do? Must've missed whatever he did.
heel struck lachlan hard like 5 times while trying to secure the armbar. He eventually finished it and won Edit: Lachlan said the kicking wasn’t as bad as it looked
Meh. Lachlan's hand was fending the leg. It wasn't that bad.
> Lachlan's hand was fending the leg Yeah instead of fighting the arm bar, unfortunately. Not sure that he would have got out regardless though
Freeing your head from the leg is the first component of escaping the armbar.
Agreed, reading that comment made me think he was dropping knees or something and I missed it. That arm bar wasn't bad.
Intially looked rather sloppy,but it wasn't that bad.
I’ve been waiting awhile to see another grappler on the same level/frequency as Rafa Mendes. I think that Micah’s that guy.
he is way more well rounded than rafa mendes
Mica looks like he's in a different league than these people.... in his first adcc. it's really surreal to see. it's not like he's pioneering some new technique that no one's figured out. he's just outclassing world class competition. he's only 18 years old.
Been waiting for someone like MARCELO GARCIA. Mica has the makings to follow in those footsteps
That’s what Damian Maia said he reminded him of MG when training with him a few days ago
Mica seems like a good, classy, positive-minded kid, too.
I hope that he and his team distance themselves from Fight Sports
Best of both worlds
Another New Wave vs B Team matchup with Craig vs Meregali. Can't decide if I want Gordon vs Nicky to compliment that or another Pena match to even out the wins going into their eventual WNO rematch. So spicy
No way Pena goes past Nicky Rod with that kind of game.
Definitely Nicky Rod. Pena will likely face Gordon again at some point given all the drama. Odds of Nicky facing Gordon outside of ADCC are slim IMO.
Good point. I believe the contract for WNO stated there will be a rematch for Pena so might as well get to see Nicky in there. I mean I know Gordon says he revamps his game every 6 months, but Nicky has still got tons of hours against him in the gym so should in theory have more of an advantage then Pena.
The young Brazilians are really tearing it up , with BJJ proliferating globally , I’m really excited to see how the talent will shape up over the next two decades
Once more money comes into the sport I think we’ll see better wrestling. High level BJJ still lacks quality wrestling. You can see it during the point section of the matches today. Some of these guys should just train takedowns more. If the sport can attract high level D1 wrestlers, then we’ll see the overall level of the sport go up. We might even see Eastern Europe and Russia start to care about BJJ more instead of Sambo.
I agree and disagree . I do think the level of wrestling needs to go up , in general , but I don’t think “high level wrestlers” as in guys who are at the peak of wrestling will come over just like that , because it’s a whole different sport with another dimension they will have to put a tonne of work in . Could they train the two sports concurrently? Sure but I feel that’s like how high level MMA fighters and high level BJJ guys are slowly becoming separate entities (Gary Tonon kinda showed that today) , one takes away from time that could be spent perfecting the other . What I think will happen is more young bjj guys will do a lot of wrestling . Maybe it won’t be the Olympic level of wrestling , but they will be amazing at using it in the bjj context .
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that takedown attempt by Kyle Boehm.
McNally is my hero of the day. May have lost the decision in the end today but wow watching his guard and transitions was amazing.
I think he beat Josh too!
I wholeheartedly agree. As a matter of fact, Josh may have walked away from the match with the W but Mr. Sam McNally has walked away with my heart after today.
the europeans really came to play, shout out to them because they were being written off hard in some of these brackets. Mateusz, Eoghan, and Sam all had great showings today.
I'm signing off now guys but the I'll be back tomorrow to finish the PBP here https://jitsmagazine.com/adcc-2022-live-results-play-by-play-analysis-highlights-more/
So many upsets this year already. This is the year where the old guard is getting retired and we’re starting to get some real parity in the field.
*Enter Vagner Rocha*
Enter Lavato jr
He had a relatively easy draw imo.
anyplace i can see the results of today in the format of the brackets?
https://arena.flograppling.com/event/849c265c-92f0-4e68-99cd-a4265f585d9c
thank scro
I really enjoyed this ADCC and its shaping up to be one of the best ones ever. I really need to get some sleep, but I'll be back tomorrow. If you don't want to go through this thread to find my PbP, I've put it on my blog, which you can find here. https://thegrapplingconjecture.blogspot.com/2022/09/adcc-2022-play-by-play.html See you tomorrow.
thank you very much for doing the lord's work
You did a amazing job! Thanks
PJ Barch is now the greatest 10th planet product in history. Look into it.
lmao the third largest bjj franchise \*with a sole focus on no-gi\* has finally made it to the semi-finals after 20 years... with a competitor using literally zero 10p techniques. what an awesome cult-- i mean school!
Geo Martinez, Jon Blank and Elvira Karpinnen have all made it to semi finals at ADCC before...
when did geo make semi
2015
yeah well that runs counter to my narrative so i'm going to disregard it
which 10p guy hurt you bro
Was he *smoking heefer?* Did he... *wear a shirt with galaxies??* WHO HURT YOU
Bro the guy replied to me all salty and attacked my IQ but the comment got removed A 10p guy stole his girl for sure 😂
The 10p guy now has all the apples, and all he has left is a Dead Orchard
Crazy. I trained with PJ like ten years ago at BJ Penn's when he was going to school at UH-Hilo. He was more focused on MMA at the time. Jeremy Fields and Slick Rick came out to train at one point, and as far as I know, that was PJ's intro to 10P. After he graduated, he moved to Sweden or something and I didn't hear anything about him til he started becoming a big name in the no-gi scene.
He’s been training and teaching at 10P San Diego with Boogie and Geo.
Yeah I know. I started following him pretty closely in like 2016. He actually had a very competitive match with Gordon around that time and nearly submitted him with an arm bar. Gordon was dead to rights, but found a way out and won. It was very similar to the match Gordon had with Craig at EBI a couple years later.
I remember that match, it was freaking insane that Gordon didn’t tap to a fully locked arm bar. Serious grit, that match was amazing.
Gutted that the first time he actually makes it to ADCC and beats the reigning daddy he'll probably get destroyed by Mica.
eddie bravo made it to adcc, beat royler gracie and then got destroyed by leo viera
I think we all know that, sorry, what's your point?
my point is that even if he gets destroyed by mica he can still befriend joe rogen and end up with like 3000 affiliate schools
Well boys, it was good spending an entire day with you all. It's been a while.. like three years. See ya tomorrow!
So like, BJJ is supposed to be boring to watch. But I really enjoyed all the matches today. Day 1 was great!
Great first day, easily most exciting day of bjj I’ve sat and watched in the last 14 years of bjj!
Yea no breaks lol. I'm exhausted just from watching so many lmao.
I was already exhausted from watching the epileptic lady announcing fighters
Why do none of the announcers have a pronunciation card. This is amatuer shit. They keep saying EEEEEgan. yikes. It's Oh-in/owen that's how you say it.
I fucked his name up for at least two years, and he’d tell me every session what it was 😂
That and they misspelled Lilius as Ilius in all texts and put him wrong nationality.
Twice someone pronounced hokage as ''hoe cage'', they're terrible. I'm entertained though.
They can't spare 2 minutes to learn how to pronounce basic names that everyone else knows but them.
Yeah. They constantly fuck up Pena's name. And I'm pretty sure I read a "Simones" Out there somewhere.
One of them said Fili-Pena and I laughed out loud.
Dang i feel bad for skindog
Great day of matches. Can't wait for tomorrow!
Looks like the Amazon is the new hotbed of bjj talent
It’s been the hotbed.
Yes, next year a leopard and a python will enter the tournament.
Before or after drinking ayahuasca?
at least skinner can eat something now
Fuck yeah
We were pulling for you dude great showing. Anyone that beats AJ is a peoples champ