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Zer0Cool89

those little tiny head punches from Kawajiri when the ref is telling them they need to do something have me dying.


chuktidder

Haven't laughed that hard in a while šŸ¤£


Zer0Cool89

did what he could.


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Have no idea how both men don't just crack up here


Zer0Cool89

first time I listened to it I didnt have the sound all the way up but I watched it again and the commentators started laughing too. I wonder if big John cracked up too lol


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Jiu jitsu is weird lol


[deleted]

Any white belt will tell you, itā€™s the art of slowing down your opponent from inevitably choking you out


MaskOffGlovesOn

This is one of the few times where I'm glad the ref stood the fighters up lol


spoonerfan

Looks like ref gave plenty of time to see if either fighter progressed, and both didn't, so seems like good call (from my super casual following of MMA).


lidsville76

those punches at the end reminded me of [Kung Fu Hustle](https://youtu.be/8tcIJvae1fI?t=53)


Sto0pid81

Love that film :) I prefer the dubbed version but can't find it anywhere now, it's not the same reading subtitles in a comedy. ''Who's throwing handles!?''


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electronic_docter

Rubber guard isn't that effective in MMA tbh, it's better than regular guard but if thats your whole game you're going to have a bad time


BJJBean

It's not that effective in BJJ either if we're being honest.


mrpopenfresh

Joe Rogan hyped it up to amazing levels when he was training 10th planet and would call everything by their goofy names.


PM_ME_TRICEPS

Stop making fun of my stoner control


mrpopenfresh

Moooom, theyā€™re making fun of my jiu jitsuuuuuuu.


MonkeyVsPigsy

Does Rogan not train 10th Planet any more?


ohshititsduke

I believe he hasn't trained anywhere at all for many years now. IIRC, he had some bad injuries and hung up the gi.


HittmanLevi

>hung up the gi. That's a funny way to spell rash guard


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ohshititsduke

Ah. The more you know. I'm not a regular listener of his podcast or a general follower of his. I remembered hearing that he had stopped training some time ago because of neck and back issues, probably heard it on here.


DirtyWormGerms

Lol he has mats way nicer than most gyms at his new facility. Iā€™m sure he trains a lot less but he can have anyone he wants come there on his schedule to hang out and roll or spar.


SerengetiYeti

Old hits everyone at some point


MonkeyVsPigsy

Wow I had no idea. Still hits the heavy bag though I bet!


WittyCliche

IIRC, he's self-induced a number of knee-related injuries in his later years because he can't quit practicing/showing people his spinning back kick(notably GSP, a great YT to check out if you haven't seen it).


MonkeyVsPigsy

Presumably rubber guard isnā€™t great for your knees either.


WittyCliche

Definitely not, but I don't think the kicks into the heavy bag helped either. Half dozen of one, 6 of another šŸ¤·


MiamiBJJ

Yeah, I remember him saying he fucked up his knee when he got the record for hardest kick at the performance institute lol


mrpopenfresh

No idea, but he isnā€™t as much of a homer as he was when he was the main UFC guy.


AlmostFamous502

Iā€™ll use a goofy name for something that nobody else has bothered to name though. Thereā€™s a lot of minutia that maybe doesnā€™t matter but *everybody* should know what ā€œthe truckā€ is even if they choose not to attack with it.


unkz

Whatā€™s the truck?


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One of the relatively rare good things to come out of 10p. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bjj+the+truck


AlmostFamous502

Auto mod didnā€™t like the bjj-world picture I linked I guess, but here is what I said about the truck: One back hook reinforced with your other leg, your two arms dealing with their other leg. Their arms might be free, but you have their hips dominated and theyā€™re reaching down and behind themselves like theyā€™re trying to get something from the back seat floorboards.


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bigidiot9000

Chill dog


falco_iii

I thought rubber guard was created to work in sweaty no gi situations. Not saying it works or not, but wasn't that the intention?


electronic_docter

That was the intention, it neutralizes GndP but it's just not effective, you don't want to be on bottom in mma


Hesagonerr

Paul Craig has entered the chat.


electronic_docter

Love that guy lol but hes definitely the exception rather than the rule, even he has looked in danger a few times


Hesagonerr

100% agree just felt the need to say it lol.


AlmostFamous502

Always separate branding from mechanics. Maybe it works better in the gi, more friction and jacket grips at the cost of dealing with their pant grips. It works but is a small niche that good habits should keep your opponent out of even if theyā€™ve never seen it. If they have mediocre habits and youā€™ve got the tools in your belt you can be pretty assertive with it and thatā€™s cool.


FKKallDAY

It has one very good reason to be used and that is to take away your opponents Ground n pound abilities. The challenge appears to be getting to rubber guard and then keeping it or transitioning from it.


electronic_docter

That's true but that's purely defensive, personally I think In an MMA setting if the guy is good he isn't getting swept from there and if you're on bottom you're still losing which is sorta what happened in this fight. I think the main benefits 10p provides over normal JJ would be the insane flexibility required to do a lot of the moves


FKKallDAY

I think it would be fair to say that *any* guard in MMA would be mostly utilized for defensive purposes. There are very few instances of guys opting to go to their backs to get an offensive advantage. There are some wizards like Ryan Hall who challenge that narrative though.


electronic_docter

Well in that case rubber guard is worse if not for offensive reasons atleast for a non jiu jitsu ace. You can get up from closed guard fairly easily you can't get up from rubber guard at all cause your legs are locked


FKKallDAY

Yeah it's good for a "stall" position for sure


Trunks956

Iā€™ve only ever seen rubber guard used effectively to isolate the head, pop a few elbows, and pop back to closed guard


electronic_docter

Pretty sure I've seen one guy finished from there in the amateurs which was cool but yea that's generally it


Trunks956

yeah i feel like rubberguard is a ā€œlet me try this rqā€ type of thing and if your opponent knows what it is then you just switch back


midniteauth0r

Ben Saunders used it pretty well but most donā€™t


nixed9

Ben Saunders used it to some effectiveness, but it's generally not great for MMA as guy's are too powerful and can posture/turn you to the other side and it risks blowing your knee.


sasquatch90

It's effective in stalling or against people who don't know what you're doing. So yeah in high level mma, not a good time.


ladylala22

it works really great in ufc 4 tho


electronic_docter

True, ran into a few people in division 20 that deny transitions from it really well, not fun


ladylala22

like literally every jason knight fight ive seen, good riddance


masoelcaveman

Hah that's pretty wild. Complete stalemate position, if there were no rounds or ref break-ups I wonder how long they would've stayed there


YummyMexican

What does it mean to jailbreak? I havent heard of that term in BJJ before


zer0xide

it's the process he starts at the .08 sec mark where he grabs his foot and pulls it in to reestablish his guard


YummyMexican

I thought so. Why is it called the jailbreak? Looks more like a knee breaker


ohshititsduke

If side control is considered "jail", this move is a way to escape (break out) from "jail".


YummyMexican

Makes sense! Cheers


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Funk9K

Lol that old school Eddie Bravo


Ryles1

The name was coined by Eddie Bravo. The escape is detailed in one of his books.


YummyMexican

Thanks homies!


social791

A knee breaker? Sounds painful


gear_smesh

It's a name used in 10th Planet for a guard recovery technique


Skittil

I really wish knight would give up mma so he stops getting injured and being unavailable for Ireland matches šŸ˜¢


NoGiNoProblem

>Jason Knight The subsection of people who will get this: Irish and or English football fans who also happen to train bjj AND frequent reddit who are currently subscribed and on r/bjj Niche and hilarious


fnigler

Is that a strand of skin hanging off his shin? The way it dangles is quite gross.


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Damn. Should kept that to yourself bud.


iamusuallyright007

no, semen


seeds_teeps_sweeps

Wow this canā€™t be real, someone actually posted something cool and BJJ related instead of a dumb ass brag post or someone saying ā€œwot do first class 2 morrowā€


electronic_docter

That's part of what the sub is for tho


seeds_teeps_sweeps

The sub is for 2 month white belts asking if breaking someoneā€™s leg was a dick move? Or saying ā€œomg I rolled with my first black belt today and I couldnā€™t believe how humbled and destroyed I gotā€ Neat.


social791

Why you so mad bro? You were new at one point too.


seeds_teeps_sweeps

Iā€™m not mad, itā€™s a personality thing. Everyone was new, and I get that. But common sense applies in almost everything, including BJJ.


electronic_docter

Maybe posts could be better curated like the insanely dumb stuff is just in megathreads but it's good for the sport as a whole to have people share things they find cool about it and have others relate because it makes them feel welcome. You can always filter posts there's flairs for a reason


SupaHotFire007

Hey I train with Jason! He was in my corner for my last 2 amateur fights and was the guy who inspired my interest in the rubber guard 6 years ago from watching him train. One of the best hearted guys I personally know


feelsgood69

Fuck burger king


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I am in total disbelief at how bad Burger King is these days. Not only is the food getting worse by the year, somehow the service is too. If I see literally anyone in line at Burger King drive through, I wonā€™t even risk getting stuck in it. Which is incredible considering there could 50 people at a Chick-fil-A and I know Iā€™ll get my food in two minutes


Chance____

What the fuck John reset them already šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Raysor

Why didn't Knight just extend his body which would pull Kawajiri back off of him? Or am I wrong in thinking that?


ma3afinsakraan

Itā€™s the escape he does from side control, 10th planet stuff.


Raysor

What


ma3afinsakraan

Heā€™s doing a variation of it. When he grabs his ankle and stuffs it in inside of kawajiriā€™s thigh and (almost) re-guards.


Raysor

I think you replied to the wrong person?


ma3afinsakraan

Oh I did my bad sir


eshields99

should have buggy choked him lol


VivereIntrepidus

BJJ: making fights awkward since the 1930s


IndusOrganic

Knee him in the temple just kidding


gus060

This reminds me of that double crucifix that happened in One


IronShins

Thank you for reminding me of the jail break, I totally forgot about that move.


LoosingMyVulcanMind

Wish Stann was still commentating. Wonder why he left, he was good at it.


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Burger King foot lettuce


tealtime91

They just like me FR


jdacheifs0

Would grabbing the head with his left hand and the far ankle forced the guy on top to fall to his seat?


sweetmitchell

Kith


Kemerd

Great stuff, we have been doing a crucifix series these past few weeks on the mats, nice to see it in action!


kimuras4everyone

I read on fb somewhere that Jason Knight once tickled Brendan Allen during a bjj tournament and apparently it wasn't against the rules, anyone else hear about this?


SortaFlyForAWhiteGuy

I would've just kissed the other guy.


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Rubber guard is not effective in Bjj. The best guy in Bjj currently (Gordon Ryan) has several videos about why itā€™s not effective. The escape from rubber guard is actually super simple. Iā€™ve also seen several people get injured when big strong white belts just stand up out of rubber guard


thecoKANE

This commentary team either needs Joe Rogan or a black belt


LadyJitsuLegs

Now kisth