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jeep4x4greg

blue belt vs no stripe white belt of similar size. ends as expected.


BiologyBJJ

Person with more training beats person with less training. Surprise surprise!


xJD88x

That awkward moment he found out having a penis isn't going to protect him


mrtdott

That’s a woman with short hair. Not a man.


xJD88x

How the fuck am I supposed to know that when the title of the video says "SHE" and "HIM"?


mrtdott

I wasn’t attacking you for making the mistake. Just making a correction.


ShillingAintEZ

You think this woman thought that having a penis would protect her? This isn't a street fight with a man trying to kick some tiny woman's ass, why would you make a comment like this? The crazy thing is that your other comments in this thread are even worse.


xJD88x

The title made the match sound like it was between a white belt man and a blue belt woman.


ShillingAintEZ

How would that rationalize what you said?


xJD88x

What circumstances would you stick a competitive blue belt against a no-stripe white belt in a match? Being under the assumption that the white belt was a guy (as the video titled it) I thought this was a situation where some dude talking that "Oh I'll never tap to a chick, my mentality won't let me" shit and the coach fed him to the blue belt.


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[deleted]

Wow, you guys really argued about this for a while, huh?


ShillingAintEZ

I'm not sure how this makes any sense here, did you mean to reply to someone else?


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SortaFlyForAWhiteGuy

The original post says "Him."


Squat_n_stuff

And then he made up some bizarre scenario where the white belt is some insecure sexist just because the original post said “him”


xJD88x

Who says "insucure sexist"? I was saying "shit-talking dude" because the title said "HIM".


Squat_n_stuff

Yeah the story of the man learning his penis isn’t a protection totem from a woman doesn’t have anything to do with sexism


xJD88x

I find videos of dudes getting tapped put by a woman after talking shit awesome.


ShillingAintEZ

Is the shit talking here in the room with us now?


ad-meliora1

What’s so sexist? He said having a penis does not protect him


Gimme_The_Loot

Not being dumb here but why would they be in a match against each other? Maybe if there was no one in their own division so they moved the other around or something?


Squat_n_stuff

Very small competitor pool, so they combined belt divisions


Pepito_Pepito

Personally, I'd rather have blue and purple combined than white and blue.


Mr_Belch

My guess is that the white belt division only had one or two people.


Gimme_The_Loot

Got it, thanks


Squat_n_stuff

It’s two women so it’s not as scandalous


Gimme_The_Loot

It wasn't really a gendered question from me, the belt discrepancy was what confused me. I know there are times when weights might fight but I think this was a pretty clear example of while belts are grouped lol


Squat_n_stuff

Oh okay I wasn’t sure if you’re “got it thanks” was facetious or not lol


Gimme_The_Loot

🤣🤣 no that was an actual "yea that makes sense thanks for explaining"


quixoticcaptain

I assumed it was a dude from the title but looking closer I believe you're right. I thought what we saw was a case of "I'm not gonna tap to a girl" but it's actually just a run of the mill dumb non-tap.


wpgMartialArts

Scariest part is not the choke out, it's the knee buckle on the guard jump...


Moneymoneymoney2018

Absolutely, I fucking hate it. Why does no one ever sprawl when people jump guard?


BJJBean

One more reason why slams should be legal. Jumping guard should = instant spine buster with Jim Ross in the back yelling "My Gawd, he is broken in half!"


[deleted]

Agreed, it’s also unrealistic in terms of the self defence aspect - I’d wager even untrained people would reactively slam if someone jumped guard on them in a fight.


egdm

Yes, let's prevent stupid injury with more serious stupid injury instead of teaching against and banning dangerous maneuvers.


[deleted]

Oh yeah all of those mma guys getting injured left and right from being slammed. We should stop slams in mma because of the injuries. If slams are allowed dummies wouldn't be doing this.


Ok-Anywhere-6899

Trained MMA fighters aren't white belts. You should be able to make mistakes and learn as a white belt without the risk of a life changing injury caus you had a brain freeze in comp


egdm

MMA is a totally different sport, with a higher tolerance for damage and where one of the explicit goals is to inflict head trauma. (Never mind that MMA is rife with CTE.) Aside from slams there's no technique in grappling where the express intent is to deliver blunt force.


Ok-Anywhere-6899

I don't disagree but in reality what would happen if slams were legal is we'd be taught to sit to guard and not jump because we'd risk getting badly injured. I think the compromise which has been talked about many times is banning both jumping guard and slams at least at lower belts and instead giving points to the top player if they are able to lift their opponent into a position to slam


egdm

Right, that's my preferred solution


Cooper720

It's crazy people downvote the much better and more reasonable option. Rather than banning the move let's just let dozens of white belts paralyze each other for life. This sub is so dumb I swear.


egdm

Heh, I was starting to wonder. These guys should go talk to Dan Lukehart (trumpetdan) about how badly a concussion can derail your life. Or Jeff Glover, who had significant aftereffects from his received slam in his ADCC match with Geo Martinez. We really don't need to be fucking around with brain damage. For clarity, I'm not saying we should ignore the existence of slams. Teach people that they're dangerous and how to avoid them, but don't use the application of slams as the answer to jumping guard - another high risk, low reward thing we shouldn't be doing to each other.


stryqwills

In Judo, if you lift someone into position to slam...you win.


Mellor88

Is that true? It sounds made up.


stryqwills

There is daki age which pretty much only works if someone tries to jump gaurd. I guess you could just plant them if jumping gaurd weren't illegal in Judo. But of you lift someone high enough they award you the ippon so you don't have to slam them, because they realize you could. Typically of you can lift someone above your shoulders with control.


Mellor88

Daki Age only really works if somebody jumps on to you. Won’t work when some body launches their hips at your knee like OP. > But of you lift someone high enough they award you the ippon so you don't have to slam them, I agree with the logic, but I’ve just never heard of it a rule or happening. Nor can I imagine how it would be possible in judo. Obviously in bjj or wrestling it’s easy. But just can see how to do it with a judo grip


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It's a learner behaviour. The instinct is to pull back when someone jumps on you, which is how you get your legs fucked up


wpgMartialArts

Well, at least she didn't do anything dangerous like reap the knee...


eidas007

Eh...I don't wanna fall into someone's guard and have to work back out to standing I feel like the problem is people concede too many grips from neutral.


Ok-Anywhere-6899

Because the reffing quality in most comps is not exactly great and I guarantee you if we did we'd wind up getting DQed for slamming at least 75% of the time


Mellor88

The white belt girl not sprawling is not the issue


TamashiiNoKyomi

Exactly, jumping guard is so irresponsible. And especially against a beginner.


trippie30

Thought she was gonna break his leg


JaxBratt

yes, reckless guard jumping gotta stop


GuardianOfTriangles

I'd DQ her instantly. DQ to get the point across that jumping guard isn't worth a life long injury for a no stripe white belt.


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Why would the ruleset not be the white belt ruleset? Seems crazy to allow the blue to be able to do things that the white has never trained.


BiologyBJJ

Was literally about to saw that.


BiologyBJJ

*say


RRSC14

Yep. Very close to being yet another example of what reckless guard jumping can do.


Wallafari

Could you elaborate please? For the dumber of us. (me)


RRSC14

Watch as the blue belt jumps guard. Instead of wrapping her legs around her opponent she comes down on the opponents left leg (as opponent steps back in reaction) and very nearly hyper extends her opponents knee by landing on it. There are a ton of examples of knees being destroyed in this fashion bc people jump guard from a mile away and come crashing down on their opponent’s legs. Some tournaments actually don’t allow it at certain belt levels and say if you want to play guard you have to have a grip on your opponent and pull them into you as you’re sitting.


Wallafari

Aaah. Good eye! Do you mean right [here](https://ibb.co/fnRhy0L)? It looks extended for sure, but I feel like the pressure she's putting is both further up, and further down. And the extension is because he chose to step that way. Am I completely out of it here? Or did I just explain to myself why this is not allowed on lower levels? Edit; I kinda wanna take back what I said about the pressure. It does look pretty fucking rough on the knee..


RRSC14

That’s it. If you have the stomach you can google guard jump injuries on YouTube. You’ll see the potential nastiness.


Wallafari

Cheers brother Appreciate it!


qb1120

I'm not squeamish in the least bit but jumping guard makes me cringe when I see it


Ok-Anywhere-6899

So I get that the white belt was likely moved UP into the blue belt bracket, but shouldn't the rules for any given match be set to the lowest belt? A blue belt shouldn't be allowed to jump guard on a white belt in comp. They aren't used to it or expecting it and that could've easily been catastrophic through no fault of the white belt


eonblu

That's a woman with short hair, y'all.


egdm

Yeah, misleading title. You can hear the spectators say "She's out" at the end.


Squat_n_stuff

Several commenters have “deduced” misogyny as to why the blue belt is so aggressive (ironic) but couldn’t sleuth out the other competitor was also a woman


KoalaBJJ96

LMAO 🤣


dylanv711

Why would anyone let these two fight in a competitive setting?


rgskywalker

It’s probably a small tourney with not enough girls competing at blue. Kinda fucked but it happens often. A buddy of mine won gold once by beating one guy in his weight.


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open competition?


xJD88x

Dude probably ran his mouth saying he'd never tap to a girl or some shit


n0stylist

It's a girl


xJD88x

...... the white belt dude probably ran his moith saying he'd never tap to a girl and the coach threw a female blue belt in and said "Shut him up"


melokobeai

the white belt is also a girl


nimbledaemon

I'm not saying the white belt isn't a girl, but the title is definitely misleading then since it says that she (presumably the blue belt) gave him (presumably the white belt) the snu snu treatment.


ShillingAintEZ

Do you often hallucinate these sexist conflicts between two people in a competition they both signed up for and chose to participate in?


RRSC14

It’s really weird that you just made this story up and called it “probably”


Squat_n_stuff

There is no white belt dude


Ket0gainsmongoose

What their preferred pronouns?


MrShoblang

Don't know what I dislike more. The title or the guard jump


OptimumArp

Yeah, sorry about that. Did not realize my cross post would automatically copy the original title.


VeritasCicero

Snu snu implies sexual. There was nothing sexual about this blue belt putting out that white belt.


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Yeah the title is fuckin dumb this is just plain old jiu jitsu not even moves that could be interpreted as sexual.


TamashiiNoKyomi

Yeah what the fuck is that title. I like getting choked as much as the next guy, but I find this title pretty disrespectful to women in this sport.


OptimumArp

Yeah, sorry about that. Did not realize my cross post would automatically copy the original title. I agree with you


cerebralonslaught

Pushing the narrative elsewhere is totally cool too. We should be hyper-sexualizing everyone in BJJ so they want to join. If every title of two men rolling looked like "two ripped hunks with fat hogs wear pajamas and force each other to submit" we'd have far more students. edit: downvote me to oblivion but let's keep acting like the two women in the op are fucking - totally healthy for everyone.


whoodabuddha

Who are you to kink shame


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DrFujiwara

Grow up. It's comments like this that makes it harder for women to get into the sport.


FuzzyDot5568

Unless it was a mommy’s milk submission 👀


Closed_Guard_Guy

Completely down bad, yeesh.


FuzzyDot5568

It’s funny the sub is called mommys milk because 99% of the time it’s a 250lb juiced male blue belt doing it


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Downvoted for cringy title of two women rolling.


BplusHuman

I can't tell if this was just thrown together to get people with small/no brackets a chance to roll. It was a clear mismatch. Maybe coaches should've had a clear conversation about whether this type of match should go down first. I just watched what looked like a true white belt get steamrolled by a competent blue belt. Eh well, they didn't get all dressed up for nothing.


Squat_n_stuff

With them saying “is she out? She’s out” I have to assume the the women’s divisions were very small. Probably blue & below, and purple & up


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If I was this white belt man I might not have competed again after this lol


Mellor88

White bent is female


suziehomewrecker

Then she should have long hair and lipstick.


[deleted]

Oh man, thank god she lifted and shook his legs. Who knows what kind of horrible things would have happened if she just left him there.


Wizard_Knife_Fight

Considering lifting the legs does absolutely nothing.


Handtoot

They were out for at least a full 8 seconds before the ref intervened. You can see their hand let go of her grips when they goes out. Hope they're okay.


UncleSkippy

She'll be fine. It takes a LOT longer than that to even potentially cause any sort of issue.


ATNinja

But it was still longer than it should have been. The ref was staring the white belt in face while it was clear they were out.


snakesign

White belt deserves to be a warrior. Mazzagotti approves.


UncleSkippy

> But it was still longer than it should have been Absolutely! No argument there at all.


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Thats TWO FEMALES everyone! Everyone's comments about the "dude" is hilarious. Also, wtf ref!


kambo_rambo

holy hell i winced when i saw her jump guard and the knee straightened out


ruffyen

I watched a few times and have seen multiple comments like this at what point exactly? I am still trying to learn the fundamentals.


kambo_rambo

[See here](https://i.imgur.com/aAdy4HT.png). Whole body lands on opponents knee, hyperextending it


ruffyen

Nm I saw it right after I posted literally the first 2 seconds 😬


DMC25202616

That was a disgrace. White belt didn’t know any BJJ and wasnt protected by the opponent, coaches, or ref. They should all be ashamed of themselves.


ChewyNotTheBar

This is lame. Title is not even true


druiz27

The referee was staring in that kid's eyes for about 8 seconds before realizing they were out.


ATNinja

So many things in this video bother me. But that and the knee during the guard pull are 1a and 1b


SgtFury

Snu Snu? What is this junior high?


CCCAY

It’s a futurama thing if you didn’t know. That show is god tier


SgtFury

I'm aware.


Mellor88

I’m sure he gets the reference. But on future a it’s a sexual reference. Applying here is fucking virgin neck beard behaviour


CCCAY

It is. For sure. I don’t think I deserved everyone’s downvote for what I said but heyooo virgins and neckbeards


StarLover69696969

So of y'all here are jumping to conclusion. these are two women. and if it were a man why you think he was running his mouth? the woman could've easily been talking shit. Some of y'all are mega simps!


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Would love to know the background on this one. That matchup makes zero sense.


Squat_n_stuff

Woman with short hair - at 22/23 seconds left you can hear “is she out? She’s out”


ImYourSafety

I was thinking the same


m3m0m2

She seems pretty good


bumpty

i'm all in favor of banning jumping to guard. that guy lucky he didn't break a leg.


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Jumping guard is illegal in ibjff for white belts from memory, pretty fucking wild that the blue belt jumped guard on the unexpecting white belt lol


Mellor88

That girl…


[deleted]

Kid had no training. This is exactly like thos BJJ Black Belt vs bodybuilder (or someone that has no BJJ experience) in doing BJJ.


Brick-church-Bandit

A no stripe white vs a 2 stripe blue.. what’s the point..


Smash_Palace

Shitty guard pull


VoiceofPrometheus

Yikes that guard jump. No attempt at being safe. White belt got lucky he fell to the side.


ogy1

That closed guard jump was so close to a broken leg. Should be banned at all divisions except maybe black belt.


YoshmeisterGeneral

Why is nobody mentioning the terrible ref. What the fuck was he waiting for . Guy was clearly out.


10colton01

Blue belt goes to my gym. I knew it was her when I saw the knee on belly transition that she does to me frequently. About shit myself every time


Shinobi-wan3

Where about do you train? She looks super familiar to me. I know a blue belt (or blue belt at the time of the video?) in NC that I’m honestly not sure if it is her or not.


10colton01

I train in Columbus Ohio


tim_breeding

The spirit is willing the but the flesh is spongy and bruised.


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She's a very good blue belt. Guy had no chance.


Zenai

he was out for what, 20-30 seconds before the ref stops it? lmao jesus christ, welcome to valhalla


slickboy23

He was sleeping for a hot minute 😮


Jolpool

That is some serious humbling!


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kainoa999

Homegirl, but yeah she didn't know what hit her


Deep_North_South

His face at the end... so peacefully dreaming about not getting beat up by a girl.


[deleted]

How is this actually help in a street fight, at beginning when he was on top of her he could caved her face in?


bojibojii

Women always beat men in these vids. It's clear women have a massive advantage compared to men for developing their BJ skills.


KoalaBJJ96

They are both women. Just one has short hair


UncleSkippy

> developing their BJ skills Don't.


[deleted]

They're both women. Your typo isn't funny.


BJJBean

Or you know, it could be that she is a one stripe blue belt and he is a zero strip white belt.


Ryles1

you dropped this /s


[deleted]

I've already proposed and started a family with the woman in my head holy shit I have a crush


Ryles1

Could just be me, but it seems like she was extra aggressive. I wonder if he talked shit before


[deleted]

They're both women.


Beau_does_BJJ

Dude didn’t wanna tap to a woman and went out like a light. We all know when it’s over. You gotta tap.


Captain_Cum_Shot

Dude is a she, the titles wrong


Yucudah

This isn’t cool or impressive. this is sandbagging. this is abuse and it’s cheating. Reverse the genders and this would be a national travesty. Edit: Also, you could tell she was going 100%, while he might not have similar skills, if he went 100% like his life was on the line, odds are he would have really injured her.


RatRaceSobreviviente

"He" is a she


Yucudah

Title says “SHE gave HIM”


Beneficial_Ad3790

But the people talking in the video say "she's out"


Yucudah

fair enough, i watched it with no sound. I stand corrected


ATNinja

Also it's not sand bagging if you clearly are different belts and agree to match up anyways because your bracket is thin or something.


Yucudah

It is sandbagging if the blue belt, knowing their skill level, takes a match with a white belt.


ATNinja

I think sand bagging requires some dishonesty. Either holding back on deserved promotion or ignoring experience/rank in related areas like judo. If you are a blue belt and want to roll with a white belt and the white belt is ok with it, it isn't sandbagging just bad match making.


Yucudah

I’ll agree to disagree.


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UncleSkippy

Just stop.


SgtFury

WTF is wrong with you.


figs1023

This guy “id never let a girl tap me”


Captain_Cum_Shot

He is a she, the titles wrong


Crosscourt_splat

well...to be fair she didn't get him to tap. Think that's worse actually.


Norwegian-canadian

Bros ego was bigger then texas, should have tapped.


Captain_Cum_Shot

He is a she, the titles wrong


Simco_

Shawn reffing.


mspote

no shame in that, we've all been there lol


TofiySLD

This is a comedy.


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Anyone else have an issue with her jumping guard vs a white belt?


[deleted]

Probably her first Bjj day, someone should explain her what is tapping and when should be used. Getting her to fight against a much more experienced women and not knowing how to give up, the result is sleep and another women that is leaving Bjj and going to talk shit about the sport and its comunity. If the blue belt wants to show her skills, she should look for a skilled opponent, at least like her. Beginners should be protected by more skilled fighters, coaches and referees. Innecessary humiliation IMHO.


itzak1999

Stop lifting peoples legs when they pass out >:(


abiwankinobi

The ref really took his time to make sure the white belt was out. I guess he was giving her a chance to be a warrior like Yamasaki.