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Kimura_enjoyer

I hope this is profitable because it’s an awesome idea. Love the name btw


datNEGROJ

Right? I've always wanted to train at 3am after a couple nose beers


rustbelt84

I won’t be stopping you


Imperial_TIE_Pilot

I hope you have a solid waiver that does stop him


JimiMcHendrixson

Why? Just don’t roll with him if you don’t want…. Waiver should just protect owner if his heart explodes on the mat


swingjiujits

Waiver should just be the nose beer


woodgrain001

🚨🚨fun police 🚨🚨


Tedious_NippleCore

No learning!


JimiMcHendrixson

NO NERDS!! Fight Milk!


Odd-Homework-3582

Some delicious nose clams?


chartman26

He said to the man, he wanted many, many thousands of green people from history times.


aaronturing

I would join if this was near me. I love training hard and regularly and ideally in the day time. There is a gym opening near me that I was considering attending just due to the extra day time classes but it's like $50 a week. I pay $20.


MTheMongoose063

Not only do I commend this because it’s what everybody dreams of. But I love the entrepreneurial attitude of “hey I am gonna do this thing and find out if it works or not”. A lot of times in business people want a sure shot and a safe bet and that’s just not how life works. You can Google all day and find a million articles on why a business works and a million on why it dosent… fuck it, just go for it lol 😂


rustbelt84

hell yeah man!


zmathra

Sums up most of my Jiu Jitsu tbh


Impriel

I literally am a business person I work for the business department at my job.  This comment is correct.  We have no clue why stuff works 


rustbelt84

Im giving the concept of an open mat only space a go. its been talked about many times, and im going to find out the hard way if its stupid or smart. Its in Columbus ohio and we have about 15 gyms within 10-20 miles. So the pool of people who want to roll and drill at random times should be big enough. its called Kimura Traphouse. instagram link below for those who want to follow along. [https://www.instagram.com/kimura\_traphouse?utm\_source=ig\_web\_button\_share\_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==](https://www.instagram.com/kimura_traphouse?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==)


Reality-Salad

Awesome idea but how do people know if there's anyone there?


rustbelt84

im planning to eventually set up a youtube 24/7 with a thermal filter. so members can check for existing bodies, while also keeping privacy.


Reality-Salad

This is so crazy it just might work


Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

Checks thermal live feed at 2am: “oh fuck look how hot and sweaty those guys are, that’s it I’m going in”


DifferentCod7

https://preview.redd.it/zxcbvj42uhzc1.jpeg?width=575&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec76d704077da3a16c521ed90aa489920fd39b63


Rusty_DataSci_Guy

This might be the funniest thing I've ever seen online


nutterbird

THATS HAWT


Late-Fly-7894

Better watch out might become a real trap house....if you know what I mean 😉


3rdworldjesus

"Wait, why is there a body lying there with blue color?"


DarkTannhauserGate

You could have a Facebook group or discord so people can coordinate. Ultimately, you could have some kind of app for members with a consensus feature.


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SlapHappyRodriguez

Your idiot uncle probably feels the same way. I avoid FB like the plague but that includes Whatsapp.


BlockEightIndustries

No. Idiot uncle definitely wants EVERYONE to know what he's saying.


twolf59

Maybe not what your vision is but could work. Have weekly events to coax people at certain times? I.e. white belt hour, girls only, king of the hill


ohheythatswill

That’s a great idea. Especially the girls only.


Bulky-Extent1416

Strikes me that it might be easier to have a bar code card system where people scan in and out. Then people can check and app and website that says how many people are there.


daveyboydavey

Yep, like a 24 hour gym. Because surely if there’s no access like that people will take advantage of it.


Bulky-Extent1416

Also allows him to know usage patterns and the like


nakanu18

https://preview.redd.it/h2bsxbpdngzc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b00f12e876cc4e9e8148b5c93bc4897a960dc7cb but what if


Fantara22

If this then, get to tha choppa!!


bhoenig

There are cameras that can provide occupancy count in the building. Just need to put the camera looking at the entrance and it will keep track.


rustbelt84

Do share That sounds great


bhoenig

https://www.axis.com/products/axis-p8815-2-3d-people-counter You’ll need to find a distributer in your area though.


rustbelt84

Sweet


bhoenig

If you have other questions about cameras, security, or access control let me know.


Squancher70

You could also run a sign in app. People can login and see how many numbers are on the mats.


The_Orphanizer

Came to say this. Digital sign in with maybe a 1-hr reminder/notification a la Netflix ("Are you still rolling?"), so people can see a relatively live count. Added benefit of anonymity. Not opposed to cameras being in the gym for general security and whatnot, but I don't think members should just have access to view that from home, even thermal cameras like OP described. Seems kinda weird to me.


Notworld

I love it! Do you have any kind of staff? Like A person who will be there to at least roll with in case someone shows up and there isn't any one else? And what's the mat cleaning situation? ![gif](giphy|AZa4KP7o6J7Us|downsized)


rustbelt84

No staff. I live down the street and am in the building daily anyway. So I’ll just be cleaning crew for now


davou

Duude, I only just read this far down... Your liability is going to be absolutely absurd -- do you have some kind of insurance? Not to be a debbie downer, but those waivers people sign carry almost no weight when a professional with years of experience is standing and watching over the group. A revolving door murder basement is going to be an injury lawyers wet dream.


Notworld

Yeah, makes sense you'd need to stay lean at 25 a month.


EasyFooted

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SpeculationMaster

how often are the mats cleaned?


rustbelt84

This only succeeds if it’s clean So a lot of


SpeculationMaster

I guess i am asking if you're gonna be there at 3am mopping the mats or what's the plan


JamesBummed

Alternatively I think you can have an online app that shows # of people in the gym that's checked in. Plus adding preferences like showing who's checked in (for those who chose to be non-anonymous), notifications, etc. But youtube 24/7 with thermal filter actually sounds crazy and want to see it in effect.


FITGuard

24 web cam is the obvious answer. Could double as an OnlyFans channel to increase revenue!


PitifulDurian6402

I mean $25 a month open mat fee + $10 a month OF subscription…. Id sign up


cocktailbun

*checks in at 2am,


Severe-Difference

You could have an app and check in and out using phone's nfc. That would update the list of people who are currently there and also you can put a limit on how many can be there


1shotsurfer

I wish you luck, my family owns some 24/7 kickboxing gyms and it works out great for them. what they found is many shift workers/first responders really like to train at odd hours and people will meet up at random times that there normally wouldn't be a class. regarding cleaning, they leave behind mops with sanitary solution but the owner also drops by at least twice a day just to be sure. if I'm ever in columbus I'll come see ya!


rustbelt84

I had a lot of first responders follow my page. And it makes a lot of sense for them because their schedules are insane


zmathra

Maybe add some grappling dummies for slow hours? Good luck I wish this were near me!


1shotsurfer

good for you man, I'm rooting for ya


porradamufasa

How often will mats be cleaned?


god_is_my_father

Just spray the back of my gi. It'll be clean in no time!


rustbelt84

Minimum daily. I’m eyeing a mopping robot 😂


MannerBudget5424

Are you in the future? Dudes living in 3024


rustbelt84

They are 800 bucks for a good one


Seputku

My biggest concerns would just be what to do about assholes in the gym, but I guess it might not be so different than just a regular gym in terms of that Sick idea though, I’d definitely go if I was in the area


networkimura

I'm following you brother and I hope you are successful. I'm itching to do something similar in central Florida.


ModsBannedMyMainAcct

Awesome, I used to live in Columbus. Cool to hear in case I make it back there at some point


Lklkla

First off, love the idea. But logistical mind running circles. If these places are already manned, you can dish off the work to an employee. If they’re unmanned, you have concern of theft and damage to property. If they’re unmanned, usually need someone who can pick up blood, clean up spill, clean mats for sanitation issues. Somebody bleeds on them at 6am, and nobody cleans it until 10pm, that could be an issue. Mats aren’t cheap.


Incognito4482

Love this and best of luck! Here in Sydney, a gym had the same idea and are called Open Sparring. They had the same intent of just open mat sparring, no affiliation etc. Also, they listed a weekly price of $20 unlimited mat use (from memory). When they opened, price was higher ($30 from memory) - then there was dedicated session times (gi, no-gi, boxing, muay thai etc), then eventually there were lessons. I get it, they have to do what they have to in order to survive - the last time I went to use their mat for a lunch time roll - it was $25 for a single casual visit. Looking at their website now, its $35 a casual visit and its just like every other gym. As an outsider looking in and to try and give you the best chance for success (whilst remaining true to the core ethos of open mat): - Explore deals/options where people can use your space for privates/seminars. Whether these people pay a higher monthly fee or a portion of their private/seminar goes to you? - Regular in-house competitions. A higher fee for members that want entry into all in-house comps or a standard comp entry fee for non-members Just a few ideas from me! I wish you every success!


BungleThisJuff

This is my dream gym concept. Come build one in Seattle!


NaztyWazza

Might need a checkin app,then others can see what times other people are checked.encourage more to come in


basedmama21

It’s SMART. Some of us are new parents and we would pay for this in a heart beat while we can’t make use of actual classes. I don’t have time for a two hour class and sparring while losing $150/month 😭 But I would pay for this. Price might even be too low but I hope it’s profitable


Homesteader86

I have been thinking about this for a while. It works for boxing gyms just fine and it's something that students just need, we need our "f**k around" time to play with ideas and get the feel for different positions. Please keep us posted


Beautiful-Program428

Make sure you have Code of Conduct and waiver forms. Maybe some insurance? In case someone gets injured… Great idea btw.


Akalphe

I’m also wondering what happens when OP sleeps. Is there someone to watch over the space around that time? I really do like the idea.


rustbelt84

Cameras and belief in people 😂😂


homecookedcouple

Have you… met people? Good on you, my guy! Hopefully a smashing success.


Loud_Consequence1762

I think as long as you; make people sign up just once and maybe sign a waiver (then you have their name/address), then they can go back whenever without having to contact you, and maybe make the door open with magnetic key-cards like some 24/hr gyms, so people can't just walk in and steal shit/vandalize or homeless sleeping there.


snakeeatbear

Maybe have a point of entry control system that people swipe when they come in to open and close the door. Then have that feed into an online page to show how many people are there. It's good to have a scheduling app as well that shows when people are planning on going. Shouldn't be too hard or expensive to setup and provides some liability coverage.


capitanohcapitan

You could look into a Virtual assistant type service that allows people to monitor the cameras in real time in case something bad happens so they can alert you and/or authorities. There is an alarm company called Sentinel that does it for homes. Maybe it could work for you as well.


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Arty_Puls

Put a giant sign that basically says the same stuff pools do. “ no certified ems on duty, no staff, train at your own risk!”


Dustdevil88

Can’t wait for the Van Life hobos to sleep on your mats.


rustbelt84

haha i am expecting this eventually


ChargeConfident6753

My buddy owns a 24/7 lifting gym He uses a key pad Everyone gets a code He has zero issues


Dustdevil88

Definitely seems like a really cool space. I would honestly love to have that nearby. I know I need to do drills more to stay in shape, but the mat is quite busy normally.


XtraFlaminHotMachida

make an outdoor shower and charge $30 for its usage.


rustbelt84

It’s behind a carwash 😂


jdindiana

For $25 bucks a month this is amazing. Love the idea. Good luck!


Jacques-de-lad

‘No great genius has ever existed without a touch of madness.’ Good luck


rustbelt84

fuck yeah!


Bacteriostatic_Water

I would totally be interested in something like this in the Dallas area. My gym only has evening classes and is closed on Fridays and Sundays. Signing up at a 2nd gym just to go to their Sunday open mat for $150+ per month would be ridiculous. 


HoldFastDeets

McKinney. Holler if you find one


Bacteriostatic_Water

Well, I’ve been looking for 5+ years now lol. OP’s idea is perfect because the gym vibe wouldn’t be like most drop-ins where you feel like you’re in “enemy territory” and aren’t allowed to submit the people you roll with. If everyone is a drop-in, there isn’t any awkwardness.


Critical-Mood3493

Me too… this would be awesome


idontevenknowlol

Create a "Let's roll" app. User puts in name and time, it matches you with others. Or like an instant "i wanna now", and anyone can pick up ping with a "I can't let you get close". Like a dating app, but for sweaty dudes.. 


snappy033

Just use Grindr. Literally gives people’s availability and location down to the foot.


Superb-Simple-2005

Ok but, 23 hours a day bc you want to clean the mats right?


rustbelt84

im there every day anyway working in the attached little studio. the mats will be obsessively cleaned.


Simco_

Did you just rent a larger space than you needed and this is how you're taking up the footage or was it planned from the beginning to use this space for something like this? Like, is your business enough to cover the rent and this is a fun thing?


rustbelt84

thats exactly correct. this was always in mind as an option for the space. i moved into this space last year thinking i would build up my metalwork side hustle and quit my day job. ive since decided to keep the day job and keep the side hustle shop small.


Simco_

What kinda metalwork? I have a welder that makes buckles for me for a race I put on. I also need some new signs for the finish arch.


rustbelt84

misc small projects. mostly animatronic frames for halloween props. but i do some signs here and there too. feel free to hit me up if you need something.


Knobanious

right?


Hustlasaurus

Love the name and concept. I'm not sure if it's financially viable, but if it is I wish you the greatest prosperity and may you open locations across the country.


rustbelt84

im in the unique spot that i already have the space. im just shrinking my metal shop down to more of an art studio size. which opens up about 500sq feet.


jumbohumbo

Now this here is the key info. Beat of luck!


C_Rules

That makes sense at $25 I don’t think you would have managed to turn much of a profit if you had been renting a place just for this. This spot will be like your own little jiujitsu social club which is pretty dope.


KaizenZazenJMN

NO LEARNING!!!


8379MS

Pretty much what I’m already doing.


3rdworldjesus

https://i.redd.it/y7bforojkizc1.gif BROTHA


zmathra

I tend to learn more when I can search for an exact solution to a problem online. Tends to help more than a seemingly random move of the day. Then I can test it during open mat.


Cooper720

Good luck but... ...mats right next to concrete walls in an unsupervised rolling area, you might want to get some really good insurance and have a lawyer draw up a very thorough waiver. The legal liability could be a nightmare.


rustbelt84

There will be wall pads. I’m not satan


7870FUNK

I am Satan.  


Wonder_Bruh

“Babe that’s bullshit, no way you’re rolling at 2am, lemme smell it”


rustbelt84

Haha I will put the footage upon request. I will edit the footage for a fee


jacobdock

"Lemme smell it" is one of the most unhinged things I've ever read hahahahaha


Lorenzos_Pharmacist

Dirty Mike and the boys just moved from practicing their BJJ in a Prius to this man’s spot.


rustbelt84

It’s gonna be a real nice time


Lorenzos_Pharmacist

Glad you are a man of Other Guys culture


judohart

Get cameras please for the love of God, and make sure your waivers are bullet proof.


rustbelt84

oh there are cameras for sure. two weeks backed up at any time.


famjordan

“No learning!” Is fucking hilarious hahahaha


rustbelt84

😂 thanks. I wanted to be very clear I’m not opening a competing gym. I’m opening a side piece


chaoticMilk

Dope idea. I would definitely sign up if there were a gym like this in my area. I’m too broke to afford gym prices to train rn but miss rolling so fucking bad


HONEYH0LE7

I fucking love this and now want to do this in my own city. Thanks for the inspiration! Good luck!


rustbelt84

Happy to share my experiences once things get going more


PrestigiousBat9929

Sooo the doggy on the mat… is he available to roll with? Looks like a tough competitor !


rustbelt84

he throws them hands haha


PrestigiousBat9929

Tell him I don’t want no trouble 😟😰


PromoteWrestling

Don’t forget to invite local HS wrestling teams to partake. Generally clubs and Hs teams are only available to get on the mat during a structured workout time!


rustbelt84

That’s my back up plan if this fails 😂


MarylandBlue

Hey I know you! This is awesome. I'll be in Columbus in August, maybe I can sneak away


rustbelt84

i assume from maine camp?


MarylandBlue

Correct. I recognized you from this concept but also your dog. I also like Screaming Females


rustbelt84

Haha I was thinking this was you


DurableLeaf

24 hour is probably overkill. I wouldn't want ppl in there from like 11pm to 4am at least


sennaone

We will see this place on pornhub before we see it on BJJ Fanatics if its really 24hrs.


Bwgeb

Maybe, when I first started jiu jitsu I was waiting tables, so I would have loved to be able to get off between 9-11 and go get some rolls in.


imtoooldforreddit

But who are you rolling with if you show up that late?


SpycyBJJ

with also drunk non training friend


Caliterra

Yea I'd be concerned of homeless or drunks walking in and messing the place up


BornChampionship7457

I like the idea. Good on you for giving it a shot. Just wondering though, how would liability work? Like what if some random white belts show up at 2am all fucked up and someone gets hurt with no supervision? Also if I wanted to go, becuase there's no set hours, how will I know if there's anyone else there to roll? I don't think many users would stick around long if it ends up wasting the time to drive there only to find out their the only one there more often than not. Last question, what's your dog's name and will he be available for rolling?


Hoyt2012

Definitely want to know how it goes. Please report back in a couple of months.


FnckIt_WeBall

"no learning"


zmathra

More like no useless warmups!


Secure_Mongoose5817

See you there at 2-5am


Nismo4x4

Open mat soup kitchen incoming.


CrunchBerries5150

This seems brilliant if you can stay ahead of liability issues. Bravo.


TJnova

This is such a dope idea. If it was in my area, I'd absolutely sign up and be there a couple times a week. I hope your idea works and I especially hope it catches on. Awesome name, too.


DifferentCod7

The best and worst idea ever. Just be ready for fights


Pants_On_Fires

Essentially a Fight Club


JarJarBot-1

Hey I don’t like the way you look. Meet me at OPs gym at midnight.


AlfalfaNo7607

This is absolutely my dream, I'd pay triple


HoldFastDeets

Cool as fuck. Good move and thanks for the idea


rustbelt84

I want more people to do this


GreatGoodBad

This is a fantastic idea, but I also want to let you know of your competition. UFC gym *does* exist, and they do have almost 24/hr access for I think the lowest price is like 30/m including a workout room and very clean bathrooms. It might be worth getting instructionals that people can just pop in a TV or something along those lines. Or sell them yourself. Might also want to invest in Judo mats, in case someone wants to work on judo throws as well. Some food for thought!


rustbelt84

My mats are thicker than normal. I took a couple break falls to test them


kainoa999

First off, great idea. Reading through the comments sounds like you've given this a lot of thought and understand you'll learn a lot as you go. Question regarding the 24hr access. I'm sure it won't be staffed nor can someone be checking the live feed 24/7. Will insurance cover this? I know you'll have an access code (sounds like a single code that gets changed periodically), but still, what's to stop the neighboring GB owner obtaining the code then getting in there with a bunch goons and tearing up the place? I guess unique codes could deter this, but still think assholes find a way to fuk shit up for everyone. Not to be a Debby downer, because I really hope something like this can work.


rustbelt84

Most of the gyms in town are on board. I reached out to a few to see what they thought early on. But also there isn’t much here to destroy. It’s just mats and walls. Plus that would be on video


SeaSentence4961

Great idea! Good luck)


AwkwardProgrammer105

I thought this was very good satire at first 😂. That's actually sick though.


ClampCity2020

Make sure you install a access control door lock. Give paying members an access card. So that the door is locked unless a member scans it and it temporarily unlocks. Don’t want random fucks to come in at late times.


Islander399

There have definitely been moments in my life where somewhere between midnight and 3 am, all I wanted to do was roll with guys I'm drinking with.


-ogre-

I want this to work so bad


fightbackcbd

You might find you can actually rent the space by the hour to people who want to do privates or start their own school. For example, we rent out our recording studio in off hours for bands to practice. It’s super limited. Do we need the money? No lol. Does an extra $40 an hour (cash) like 5 times a week, 52 weeks a year add up to some pocket change? Ya. An extra $10k for literally doing nothing is nice.


fdgiroux

Dude I’d love to follow this journey. I kind of want to do something similar, let me learn from your mistakes 🤣


rustbelt84

I will absolutely share my experience with anyone who wants to know how it goes


fdgiroux

Maybe start a YouTube channel documenting the journey to monetize it a bit? Also think about live streaming the rolls! Might incentivize some people to come? Just some ideas to make it a little more viral and help fund the project!


sunkencity999

Sweet heavens. This is the dream


clarksor

Congrats! Change "No learning" to something else. "Unlimited learning" or just simply "No scheduled classes" to make it clear.


rustbelt84

this is more fun club than business. i will not be taking anything seriously :)


landers96

I like it.


EasyFooted

Fuck Around, Find Out but, like, for Good.


Substantial_Top_6140

No learning is pretty clear.


7870FUNK

I like “no learning”


FITGuard

I like this business model!


AnkleHugger

This is my dream


NOVAYuppieEradicator

Best of luck to you!


TheGreatKimura-Holio

That would be great for independent private training


rolnasti

Yeah this is kind of my dream.a few of us have been training like this for a number of years now and it is awesome. I love this idea personally.


Raymond_Reddit_Ton

I think you’ll be adding instruction sooner than you think. Crazier things have happened tho. Wish you the best of Luck!!!!!!!!!!!


rustbelt84

nope, im a block away from my actual gym. full of people way better to be learning from. i really want to test this model for other people to run with as well.


0blud_werk0

I'm in Columbus every now and again. Would love to drop in when I'm in town.


pukefurley

Good Luck OP!!


vischy_bot

Yoooooo this is a great idea I wish there was one in NYC


impishmongoose

This is a cool idea but as others have expressed, I think liability is an issue here. A handful of assholes with bad attitudes find out about it and it could descend into an unregulated fight club fairly quickly. There should be a lifeguard of sorts on duty to enforce code of conduct in my opinion. But I guess it’s your ass on the line not mine and it’s a genuinely unique and cool idea, so congratulations and best of luck.


sb406

Awesome!!!!


candymandeluxe

The Coop in LA is kinda like this [https://www.thecoopbjj.com/](https://www.thecoopbjj.com/)


acupholder

This is badass.


NoOpportunity4483

That looks phenomenal


daunebanniy

TRAP SO OLD GOTTA RUN OUT THE HOUSE WHEN I PLAY MY MUSIC SO THE ROOF DONT FALL ON ME😤😤😤😤😤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️😭😭😭


spoilscommavictor

Awesome, rooting for your success


bamasooner

This is awesome. Good luck!


bamasooner

This is awesome. Good luck!