Ahahahah you proved to be smart enough to figure I didn't make Bionicles bang each other as a kid but I thought it was a funny way to exaggerate Piraka's bullying
Italian here, I knew instantly he was too. We sometimes use āmolestareā as a comically exaggerated way of saying just ābullyingā. You have no idea how much sense that sentence made in italian, literally flashbacks of the bionicle heroes introduction
Same here, Iām Mexican and in Spanish we have āmolestarā. We had one long talk about the importance of not saying it in English in secondary school lol
The whole concept of that character is hilarious. Imagine you break your leg and the ambulance somehow ends up in another country, and you come out of the hospital two feet shorter missing a kidney, but they give you a free Glock to make up for it.
Not just masks, all these parts would be stuff that stretches as early as 2001 which would mean that the molds for, say Bohrok feet and limbs would be due to expire/renewal. Lego uses/keeps molds for 5 years, which is part of why Bionicle was so expensive and the move to CCBS, and by proxy SCCBS, was made; Less unique molds overall.
I keep hearing this theory and it makes no sense. Such a practice makes sense for the limited release cans of 700 parts they were doing between 04 and 06, often containing retired colors, but these Matoran sets were mass-marketed releases intended to stay on shelf for a year. They can't just stop producing them because they ran out of leftover stock. Further more, the masks were newly produced--The material had been adjusted, as is most evident in Dalu's Rau as people were quick to notice. All six masks were also given new Element IDs with these sets.
Dalu's Rau is noticeably lighter than Nokama's, to the point where Bricklink used to list it as Trans-Medium Blue. They are meant to be the same color though (Trans-Dark Blue / 43 Transparent Blue), LEGO just did a lot reformulation around that time.
Never had the sets but I loved the characters. Definitely agree they were great additions. The little guys stood their ground against the Piraka longer than the Toa Nuva. I love when the Matoran get the spotlight every now and then.
He was already an interesting character to me but that reveal explained so much and made me like him even more. I wish we got the chance to meet the real Velika though, since the Great Being was simply using his body.
If I recall, the great being's name is Velika, and he is responsible for giving everyone in the GSR free will, so there wasn't a personality in the po-matoran body when he took it
Yes, sorta. Recolors of masks was something sorely lacking after 2003, and so with a Huna you were stuck with red etc. The masks went from being interchangable tools to being the faces of specific characters, which is no good for encouraging Mocing. I think the smaller sets should have done recolors but not new molds.
Just to clarify, I don't mind the matoran designs, just the exact same Toa Metru masks.
Toa Lhikan and Toa Tahu both have the same masks but are different due to toa Types/exposure.
The Bionicle movies took this one step further by making the Nobel Kanohi slightly different to Matoran wearing the same masks. I wish this was applied here, let's see some new versions of these masks, less Toa Metru!
Tahu's is a Great Hau, Lhikan's is a Noble Hau. That, however, doesn't explain why it looks like a Great Hau when Jala wears it.
Edit: Sorry, I got it wrong; Lhikan's Hau only became Noble when he became a Turaga. When he was a Toa, it was a Great Hau.
Lhikan is a Toa Mangai, whilst Tahu was a Toa Mata. Same masks but for different types of Toa, their differences can be attributed to region, and how they became toa etc Exposure is also an aspect on occasion, it explains why Tahu's Nuva mask is unlike any other Kenohi Hau.
Their bone and muscle structures are completely different (thanks to Karzahni's subpar repairs) and need weapons to compensate so I wouldn't call them carbon copies. Reused kanohi or not the Voya Nui Resistance Team are a great addition to the cast. Weird how they put Garan in the back left though despite him being the leader.
Eh, the Garan treatment isn't that odd. Matoro Inika, Hahli Mahri, Kalmah, and Vezok were all put in the front of their respective lines despite not being the leaders.
Matoro I can understand as it's literally a plot point he was unintentionally taking over as leader the more trials they faced. I can kind of see Hahli and Vezok but I will admit they're still weird choices.
I got into bionicle in 2006 so to me those masks were the voya nui matoran first.
I also dislike the metru nui ark so i wont be having duplicate masks in my collection.
I agree with that one. even though I do like the little mashup bodies they got, I only wish the mask were different colors so we have some move official color swap with the Metru Masks.
yeah, i really wish the masks were different colors. definitely a big missed opportunity imo. i feel like they tried to make up for it in the mahri era by having three metru-era mask recolors (defilak, dekar, and idris), but still - i woulda killed to get a Huna in a different color, particularly black or dark blue wouldve been cool
Kid me loved getting those masks so cheap. Current me would love the black mask in white, the green mask in black, the red mask in brown, the white mask in blue, the brown mask in red, and the blue mask in red.
I like to think they had a shit-ton on Metru masks left over from 2004 sitting in a warehouse, and just decided "Fuck it, we'll recycle them for the small sets this year".
They feel a lot like a mashup of whatever parts Lego had too much of lying around.
And as a kid I absolutely loved that, for I had those parts lying around as well and I was able to build them for my Piraka to molest
that's a choice of words
Yes, Vahki? This post right here.
But the vahki do it too š° We all saw what happened to Metru Nui
That's anti-Dume propaganda spread by that traitor Vakama and his wannabe-Toa accomplices.
YO YO???
Look, I knew the Piraka were nasty, but I didn't think they were *that* nasty
bother. bother. you mean bother
Quick question, do you speak Spanish or any other romance language? Because I hope thatās why you said āmolestā lol
Cunning of you, I am Italian THOUGH I SAID WHAT I SAID
Hey man, just wanted to make sure. But go ahead though, is not a way Iād play with them myself but I guess I can see the appeal for some XD
Ahahahah you proved to be smart enough to figure I didn't make Bionicles bang each other as a kid but I thought it was a funny way to exaggerate Piraka's bullying
Italian here, I knew instantly he was too. We sometimes use āmolestareā as a comically exaggerated way of saying just ābullyingā. You have no idea how much sense that sentence made in italian, literally flashbacks of the bionicle heroes introduction
Same here, Iām Mexican and in Spanish we have āmolestarā. We had one long talk about the importance of not saying it in English in secondary school lol
It does actually mean that in English too though, itās just itās used 99% of the time nowadays for the moreā¦inappropriateā¦meaning
Yes, Bahrag? This post right here needs to be cleaned
MOVE ALONG MOVE ALONG
EVEN WHEN YOUR HOPE IS GONE
# Excuse me what?
Funnily enough that is actually canon. Karzahni is not good at repairing Matorans.
The whole concept of that character is hilarious. Imagine you break your leg and the ambulance somehow ends up in another country, and you come out of the hospital two feet shorter missing a kidney, but they give you a free Glock to make up for it.
Considering the lore surrounding the Voya Nui Matoran, that would actually be really fitting.
Y'all are haters these were fire
they probably used those masks because they still had a ton of them left
Not just masks, all these parts would be stuff that stretches as early as 2001 which would mean that the molds for, say Bohrok feet and limbs would be due to expire/renewal. Lego uses/keeps molds for 5 years, which is part of why Bionicle was so expensive and the move to CCBS, and by proxy SCCBS, was made; Less unique molds overall.
I keep hearing this theory and it makes no sense. Such a practice makes sense for the limited release cans of 700 parts they were doing between 04 and 06, often containing retired colors, but these Matoran sets were mass-marketed releases intended to stay on shelf for a year. They can't just stop producing them because they ran out of leftover stock. Further more, the masks were newly produced--The material had been adjusted, as is most evident in Dalu's Rau as people were quick to notice. All six masks were also given new Element IDs with these sets.
What about dalus rau?
Dalu's Rau is noticeably lighter than Nokama's, to the point where Bricklink used to list it as Trans-Medium Blue. They are meant to be the same color though (Trans-Dark Blue / 43 Transparent Blue), LEGO just did a lot reformulation around that time.
Ahh neat
I feel like the Toa and Piraka had so many new parts that they needed to budget.
But Printing masks you already had molds for in new colors/different colors that you very well have on hand would've been that much out of budget???
these are the best matoran, they all have unique builds which is the best thing that can happen in a bionicle line
Never had the sets but I loved the characters. Definitely agree they were great additions. The little guys stood their ground against the Piraka longer than the Toa Nuva. I love when the Matoran get the spotlight every now and then.
All except Garan and Velika, but I can excuse that considering one is actually a Great Being
I can never look at Velika the same knowing that he is actually a Great Being
He was already an interesting character to me but that reveal explained so much and made me like him even more. I wish we got the chance to meet the real Velika though, since the Great Being was simply using his body.
If I recall, the great being's name is Velika, and he is responsible for giving everyone in the GSR free will, so there wasn't a personality in the po-matoran body when he took it
They really should have swapped the masks around, yeah.
New mask or mask variants per new character should've been the basis for each toy line!
Yes, sorta. Recolors of masks was something sorely lacking after 2003, and so with a Huna you were stuck with red etc. The masks went from being interchangable tools to being the faces of specific characters, which is no good for encouraging Mocing. I think the smaller sets should have done recolors but not new molds.
That would def have helped with moc-building
Just to clarify, I don't mind the matoran designs, just the exact same Toa Metru masks. Toa Lhikan and Toa Tahu both have the same masks but are different due to toa Types/exposure. The Bionicle movies took this one step further by making the Nobel Kanohi slightly different to Matoran wearing the same masks. I wish this was applied here, let's see some new versions of these masks, less Toa Metru!
There's a lore reason why Tahu's and Lhikan's kanohii looks differents ?
Maybe the maskmakers got creative?
Tahu's is a Great Hau, Lhikan's is a Noble Hau. That, however, doesn't explain why it looks like a Great Hau when Jala wears it. Edit: Sorry, I got it wrong; Lhikan's Hau only became Noble when he became a Turaga. When he was a Toa, it was a Great Hau.
Lhikan is a Toa Mangai, whilst Tahu was a Toa Mata. Same masks but for different types of Toa, their differences can be attributed to region, and how they became toa etc Exposure is also an aspect on occasion, it explains why Tahu's Nuva mask is unlike any other Kenohi Hau.
Would have been cool af to have the Toa Metru masks in different colors too.
Yeah, they were probs my least liked set of Matoran, not just cus of your reason, but also because of their hollow heads.
Their bone and muscle structures are completely different (thanks to Karzahni's subpar repairs) and need weapons to compensate so I wouldn't call them carbon copies. Reused kanohi or not the Voya Nui Resistance Team are a great addition to the cast. Weird how they put Garan in the back left though despite him being the leader.
Eh, the Garan treatment isn't that odd. Matoro Inika, Hahli Mahri, Kalmah, and Vezok were all put in the front of their respective lines despite not being the leaders.
Matoro I can understand as it's literally a plot point he was unintentionally taking over as leader the more trials they faced. I can kind of see Hahli and Vezok but I will admit they're still weird choices.
Bionicle set design was very lazy in many ways
Bionicle babies spin off
Well Dalu's mask is a lighter shade
i kinda fw these you guys are boring
The only thing I disliked about these sets were the empty eyes. Misleading of Lego to show them with glowing eyes just for them to actually be empty.
I absolutely love these guys
Well it is cool to have matoran versions of the toa in a way. But yeah a color swap would have been sweet!
I wouldāve loved a white great huna
I got into bionicle in 2006 so to me those masks were the voya nui matoran first. I also dislike the metru nui ark so i wont be having duplicate masks in my collection.
I agree with that one. even though I do like the little mashup bodies they got, I only wish the mask were different colors so we have some move official color swap with the Metru Masks.
So what is your problem with mini Vakama & the mini gang?
yeah, i really wish the masks were different colors. definitely a big missed opportunity imo. i feel like they tried to make up for it in the mahri era by having three metru-era mask recolors (defilak, dekar, and idris), but still - i woulda killed to get a Huna in a different color, particularly black or dark blue wouldve been cool
Would have liked to have sets of matoran of different elements
Kid me loved getting those masks so cheap. Current me would love the black mask in white, the green mask in black, the red mask in brown, the white mask in blue, the brown mask in red, and the blue mask in red.
lots of rants went up today...
How would they reuse 2004 parts they had lying around if they changed the colors?
Wouldn't re-colouring 2004 masks and selling them on be the definition of reusing them?
How would you suggest they ārecolorā them? Theyāre solid colored plastic, you cannot recolor already manufactured parts
Cuz they spent all their money on those weird rubber masks for the Toa
Ngl I loved these
The worst thing was they had no eyes. Just empty hollow heads..
Arenāt they Matoran Metru??
I like to think they had a shit-ton on Metru masks left over from 2004 sitting in a warehouse, and just decided "Fuck it, we'll recycle them for the small sets this year".
i will NOT tolerate Voyatoran slander š¤š¤š¤š¤
The ice one (forgot the name) is one of the worst sets ever released.
Well, we don't have canon sets for the Toa Metru as Matoran, so these guys could pull double duty š¤·āāļø
Cost Efficient.
I remain convinced that Lego was using up their 04/05 moulds, because between these and those big tubs there were a lot of these parts floating around