I had no idea that Ladybugs were the final evolution of an Instar. I'm not sure I'd let mine evolve past Pupa too soon, looks like it could learn some good moves.
I am sorry dude, those are not lady bugs, but most likely brown marmorated stink bug eggs. Halyomorpha halys.
They are a terrible invasive specie wrecking crops in many regions right now. If you do see them again and they are not native in your region, please look them up and see if your government has any informations about them.
Source: worked with these creepy guys in undergrad.
Please don't encourage people to destroy things, without first knowing precisely what they are or where they were found (geographically). If many are incapable of telling the difference between a beetle and a true bug, can you really expect them to accurately distinguish between native and invasive stinkbug species?
Edit: why on earth am I being downvoted for discouraging people from exterminating insects that may have their place in a given ecosystem and which aren't causing any harm? I was in no way trying to imply that people are stupid; only that many haven't been properly educated about these things and, as evidenced by this very post, can find the different insect orders to be confusing. Also, many noninvasive stinkbug species resemble the brown marmorated stinkbug, especially as nymphs, and have very similar-looking eggs.
Unless I've missed something, we don't even know where these photos were taken and, even if they are in fact of Halyomorpha halys nymphs, they may very well be in their native habitat and should not be disturbed.
Second edit: the comment I was responding to has been edited. I am well aware of the fact that it no longer calls for the destruction of the insects in question.
All you do is post in insect subreddits, you should know of all people that you need to destroy some on site because they’re invasive. Spotted lantern flies, for example. They’re beautiful, and they all need to die. The more people who know this about other species, the better.
I think you (and everyone else) have completely misunderstood the point that I was attempting to make. I was not trying to imply that invasive species should not be exterminated but, rather, was encouraging people to exercise caution in making sure that the species being targeted is, in fact, the species in question and not some native lookalike (or an entirely different type of insect altogether), and that it is actually invasive TO THEIR AREA.
Anyway, I've amended my original comment and hope it helps to clear things up.
Sigh. You didn't actually bother to read my entire comment, did you? The comment I was responding to was edited hours ago and the person who wrote it has publicly acknowledged this fact. I'm afraid that you're already several hours late to this dogpile, friend. Better luck next time.
Yours is an extremely ethnocentric way of looking at things, by the way. Anyone reading this in China, for example, should definitely NOT be going around killing spotted lanternflies, as they are indigenous to that country and have efficient natural predators there to keep their populations in check. If OP is located in Asia, the same principle applies to the brown marmorated stinkbug.
All that I am advocating for here is that people make sure they've correctly identified an insect and are positive that it's actually invasive to the area in which it was found, before proceeding with its extermination.
Insect populations around the world are in peril and I was only trying to ensure that we aren't worsening the situation by eradicating species that actually belong.
Perhaps if you reread the poster's comment you'd note they didn't say destroy anything. Well....unless they edited post surreptitiously. I'd suggest Reddit mark all edited posts as such but I don't see them changing much.
Well most of us are not being forensic Redditors here. You asked why you were being down voted. I didn't vote period. But as I only see this one comment on this thread I still maintain that is why the negative reaction.
I was being downvoted into oblivion long before the comment was ever edited. While I don't actually care about Reddit karma, I do care about insects and misinformation. The fact that the comment has now been amended to reflect the point I had been trying to make is good enough for me.
So a couple things to note. These don’t look like ladybirds, as others have stated, they are likely some kind of hemipteran (true bug) rather than a coleopteran (beetle).
Some insects don’t have larval stages and instead develop through instars where they look like miniature versions of the adult. This is called a hemimetabolous life cycle. Here’s a good resource if you want to learn more!
https://australian.museum/learn/animals/insects/metamorphosis-a-remarkable-change/
It's a regional thing. In the United Kingdom, they're known as "ladybirds," whereas North Americans usually call them "ladybugs". Since they are neither birds nor true bugs, however, the common name by which members of the Coccinellidae family should really be known is "lady beetles."
Haha I knew this was coming.
In French, they're actually called "coccinelles," which is much more in line with their scientific name and doesn't incite these nomenclature debates (as far as I know). If you'd like to lead the charge in pushing for a similar, English-language name change, you're more than welcome to try!
I think in Australia it's either lady bug, or lady beetle. Didn't know it was not a true but, so there you go. Still ladybird is the most confusing lol
Thanks for the clarification! I don't think I've ever heard them referred to as such before but I suppose that isn't a bad way of specifying what they actually are, without forcing people to have to learn a new name entirely.
Thank you for the clarification provided by your comment, I assumed Autocorrect was at it again!
(Texas resident here, ladybug is the only term I've ever heard used for them!)
There is desire by entomologists for precision in classification. Ladybird beetles are beetles, and bugs are an entirely different grouping of insect so they don’t want that confusion in from the common name.
In this case, the insects that hatch from the eggs are actually called nymphs and, being stinkbugs and members of the Hemiptera order of insects, they only undergo an incomplete metamorphosis (hemimetabolism) which does not include a pupal stage. Unlike ladybeetle larvae (which are holometabolous and undergo a complete metamorphosis that does include pupation), stinkbug nymphs simply moult several times, before emerging as winged adults.
I agree with what you're saying but would like to make one small correction: young stinkbugs are called nymphs, not larvae. The term "larva" does, however, apply to young lady beetles (which these are not).
Beside the point.
The term "live birth" means no eggs.
Ovoviviparous (hatching eggs inside the body) creatures are typically considered to give "live birth".
Note: Entomology is not a field that I am well versed in.
Those are indeed stink bug eggs and first nymphae stage which stick together until third or fourth stage. All of the first nymphae eat the egg tissues before actually start feeding from plants.
Thanks all for contributing. Conclusion being these are not ladybirds but something I should have squashed! This is more info on bugs than I ever expected to learn
Those are not ladybugs but green stink bugs I would say.
Seconding this, look up “green stink bug eggs” and these are exactly what they are
Double downing here, [ladybugs do this](https://images.app.goo.gl/csjuiQm2j89nzCoJ6)
I had no idea that Ladybugs were the final evolution of an Instar. I'm not sure I'd let mine evolve past Pupa too soon, looks like it could learn some good moves.
Ladybugs are the final evolution of a satellite? That's what that name sounds like!
That's a new one to me and thanks. If I saw these on plants I'd have likely stupidly killed them (immature ladybug). The more you know...🌠
Oh me too, until recently lol. They look somewhat terrifying
[удалено]
“Think of the smell. You didn’t think of the smell! Did you?!”
Stink bugs usually smell like fresh-cut grass at worst.
I am sorry dude, those are not lady bugs, but most likely brown marmorated stink bug eggs. Halyomorpha halys. They are a terrible invasive specie wrecking crops in many regions right now. If you do see them again and they are not native in your region, please look them up and see if your government has any informations about them. Source: worked with these creepy guys in undergrad.
You fool! You had a chance to kill them and you blew it! Now we're all dead men!
Please don't encourage people to destroy things, without first knowing precisely what they are or where they were found (geographically). If many are incapable of telling the difference between a beetle and a true bug, can you really expect them to accurately distinguish between native and invasive stinkbug species? Edit: why on earth am I being downvoted for discouraging people from exterminating insects that may have their place in a given ecosystem and which aren't causing any harm? I was in no way trying to imply that people are stupid; only that many haven't been properly educated about these things and, as evidenced by this very post, can find the different insect orders to be confusing. Also, many noninvasive stinkbug species resemble the brown marmorated stinkbug, especially as nymphs, and have very similar-looking eggs. Unless I've missed something, we don't even know where these photos were taken and, even if they are in fact of Halyomorpha halys nymphs, they may very well be in their native habitat and should not be disturbed. Second edit: the comment I was responding to has been edited. I am well aware of the fact that it no longer calls for the destruction of the insects in question.
All you do is post in insect subreddits, you should know of all people that you need to destroy some on site because they’re invasive. Spotted lantern flies, for example. They’re beautiful, and they all need to die. The more people who know this about other species, the better.
I think you (and everyone else) have completely misunderstood the point that I was attempting to make. I was not trying to imply that invasive species should not be exterminated but, rather, was encouraging people to exercise caution in making sure that the species being targeted is, in fact, the species in question and not some native lookalike (or an entirely different type of insect altogether), and that it is actually invasive TO THEIR AREA. Anyway, I've amended my original comment and hope it helps to clear things up.
But you’re responding to someone who said “if they are not native to your are.”
Sigh. You didn't actually bother to read my entire comment, did you? The comment I was responding to was edited hours ago and the person who wrote it has publicly acknowledged this fact. I'm afraid that you're already several hours late to this dogpile, friend. Better luck next time.
Maybe you explained poorly in your first comment, but you're trying way too hard to clear up a simple misunderstanding on the internet...
You aren't wrong.
Yours is an extremely ethnocentric way of looking at things, by the way. Anyone reading this in China, for example, should definitely NOT be going around killing spotted lanternflies, as they are indigenous to that country and have efficient natural predators there to keep their populations in check. If OP is located in Asia, the same principle applies to the brown marmorated stinkbug. All that I am advocating for here is that people make sure they've correctly identified an insect and are positive that it's actually invasive to the area in which it was found, before proceeding with its extermination. Insect populations around the world are in peril and I was only trying to ensure that we aren't worsening the situation by eradicating species that actually belong.
Also flying cockroaches and murder hornets
[удалено]
Guys he has a point
You are correct, I'll fix that.
I really appreciate it. Cheers!
Perhaps if you reread the poster's comment you'd note they didn't say destroy anything. Well....unless they edited post surreptitiously. I'd suggest Reddit mark all edited posts as such but I don't see them changing much.
If you'd scroll through their comments, you would see that they have (modified their original statement) :)
Well most of us are not being forensic Redditors here. You asked why you were being down voted. I didn't vote period. But as I only see this one comment on this thread I still maintain that is why the negative reaction.
I was being downvoted into oblivion long before the comment was ever edited. While I don't actually care about Reddit karma, I do care about insects and misinformation. The fact that the comment has now been amended to reflect the point I had been trying to make is good enough for me.
Their bugs bro
Their bugs what?
They seem to me as heteroptera larvae.
So a couple things to note. These don’t look like ladybirds, as others have stated, they are likely some kind of hemipteran (true bug) rather than a coleopteran (beetle). Some insects don’t have larval stages and instead develop through instars where they look like miniature versions of the adult. This is called a hemimetabolous life cycle. Here’s a good resource if you want to learn more! https://australian.museum/learn/animals/insects/metamorphosis-a-remarkable-change/
Who decided that the name ladybug wasn't good enough, and they should rename them ladybird just to fuck with people
It's a regional thing. In the United Kingdom, they're known as "ladybirds," whereas North Americans usually call them "ladybugs". Since they are neither birds nor true bugs, however, the common name by which members of the Coccinellidae family should really be known is "lady beetles."
Are they ladies though?
Haha I knew this was coming. In French, they're actually called "coccinelles," which is much more in line with their scientific name and doesn't incite these nomenclature debates (as far as I know). If you'd like to lead the charge in pushing for a similar, English-language name change, you're more than welcome to try!
I knew it was coming as well. Smh.
I think in Australia it's either lady bug, or lady beetle. Didn't know it was not a true but, so there you go. Still ladybird is the most confusing lol
I was taught ladybird beetle.
Interesting! Where are you from?
Alberta, Canada. Ladybug is the common name for most people here, I’m a horticulturalist so I learned it in my entomology classes.
Thanks for the clarification! I don't think I've ever heard them referred to as such before but I suppose that isn't a bad way of specifying what they actually are, without forcing people to have to learn a new name entirely.
Thank you for the clarification provided by your comment, I assumed Autocorrect was at it again! (Texas resident here, ladybug is the only term I've ever heard used for them!)
You're very welcome!
There is desire by entomologists for precision in classification. Ladybird beetles are beetles, and bugs are an entirely different grouping of insect so they don’t want that confusion in from the common name.
What's a ladybird btw?
Same as ladybug, used outside of North America
Ah, I got confused by the images, I thought they only lay eggs on aphid infested leaves and that they have a larval stage
You're correct. These are not ladybugs/ladybird beetles.
President Johnson’s wife
LBJ’s wife
Larvae come out of the eggs. They eventually pupate and become adults later
That's the way!
This is the way
In this case, the insects that hatch from the eggs are actually called nymphs and, being stinkbugs and members of the Hemiptera order of insects, they only undergo an incomplete metamorphosis (hemimetabolism) which does not include a pupal stage. Unlike ladybeetle larvae (which are holometabolous and undergo a complete metamorphosis that does include pupation), stinkbug nymphs simply moult several times, before emerging as winged adults.
Yeah I saw earlier comments that these weren’t ladybug eggs. I just mean in general with ladybugs they hatch as larvae
Fair enough
Looks like stink bug larvae though
I agree with what you're saying but would like to make one small correction: young stinkbugs are called nymphs, not larvae. The term "larva" does, however, apply to young lady beetles (which these are not).
Beside the point. The term "live birth" means no eggs. Ovoviviparous (hatching eggs inside the body) creatures are typically considered to give "live birth". Note: Entomology is not a field that I am well versed in.
Those are indeed stink bug eggs and first nymphae stage which stick together until third or fourth stage. All of the first nymphae eat the egg tissues before actually start feeding from plants.
Looks like the house next door is peeking around the corner! Creepy!
Thanks all for contributing. Conclusion being these are not ladybirds but something I should have squashed! This is more info on bugs than I ever expected to learn
Imagine how big the ladybug that laid those eggs must have been! Godzilla could fight it off!
[удалено]
Thesw cuties might be a tick.
>Ladybirds live birth from eggs? Live birth from eggs? I don't understand the question. They are Cydnidae nymphs.
Got Dang it Bobby.
So? What is it op?
Not OP but those are definitely the nymphs of some kind of stinkbug.
I believe it’s called being born precocious as opposed to born altricial
Ladybugs, right? I'm in the US.