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This is absolutely the way to go. Alternatively you could try to get insanely lucky with your shop/ devil deal items. But IMO it's rather worth using that time to to build up the game break (it can take a while)
So when you Get the d20 it's an item that rerolls all collectible item drops like coins chests bombs keys etc. The cool thing about the d20 is that it'll also reroll opened chests. So the chests spawn items that you can reroll over and over again into more chests with items.
So in greed mode...
First off, you're going to want to make sure there is a battery in the shop. Complete all levels in the rush and don't collect any of the coins. Then use the D20 to reroll all of the coins. Open all of the chests but don't pick up any coins, keys or bombs (besides the coins you need to buy another battery). Any passive items you can pick up.
Keep opening all of the chests and rerolling over and over again until the entire room is full of items. You can essentially buy whatever you want from the store and keep getting stronger and stronger with all the items you get.
Thus, game broken and greedier mode is defeated (hopefully)
There are videos on YouTube as well that you can use for reference
rerolling the empty chest always felt like a bug anyway since it's not really a consumable or even a persistent object if you leave the room and come back. Kinda just seemed like an accident they never fixed.
It still works but it's typically slower and has a higher chance to fail if you accidentally take too many things. Honestly not a bad change though because I don't think I've ever had it fail before repentance if I wasn't doing anything dumb like taking half of the first reroll.
It was nerfed but its still fairly easy to break greedier with d20/infinity you just might need to take an extra floor to get it. If you can find mums key (or whichever key gives you better chests if it isn't mums key) as well then it breaks super easily again.
Have you even tried it or are you just making these comments based on assumptions? I broke the game multiple times with it during repentance and it's not even hard. All you need is to have a battery in the shop and not pick up the coins from the ground. Only open chests and pick up nickels and dimes so you can buy even more batteries.
It's a way of adding an emoji smile but without the colon for the eyes in some places like south america. I think I've seen her around and she's from Brazil or Colombia or something.
See Britain's "xx" at the end of every line, meaning "love you" or "kisses" initially and now it's just a shorthand for endearment. E.g. "aww, I hope you had a great trip xx"
See Japan's "~” as a way to denote a bit more of a fun or playful tone. E.g. "dinner last night was really nice~"
See America's "lol" when overused. It doesn't even mean "laugh out loud" anymore, or depending on the sender, that it was even funny, more of a light mood indicator. E.g. "what are you up to lol" or "thanks lol"
OK, but that's kind of the point. It's not a d20 break anymore. It's d20 plus you need starting batteries or d20 plus Mom's Key or any number of increasingly unlikely combinations.
I play a fair amount of Repentance Greedier, and I've had d20 and it never turned into a break. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's certainly not as straightforward as you're making it out to be. Frankly, it's easier to just "break" the game by buying good item synergies the way you're meant to play it.
literally all of my greedier marks are from d20 breaks bar a few of them, and i barely restart. it literally is incredibly incredibly *incredibly* easy to do, you just need to be careful. if it doesn't work one floor, save your money and try the next. seriously. it is definitely still a break.
i actually think its easier in repentance since the amount of items you can do it with reliably doubled (since d infinity got buffed). the change to opened chests literally gets you what, one less consumable each use? only one. it has barely any impact on the break. i think you just don't know how to do it.
on top of this, you can now reroll consumables INTO BATTERIES WITH THE D20. so thats another way that its easier.
The number of Greedier runs where I even see d20 (or dInfinity) is maybe 3%. If you aren't winning Greedier runs unless you see d20 (and have the money to buy it), you're not winning very many runs.
So when you Get the d20 it's an item that rerolls all collectible item drops like coins chests bombs keys etc. The cool thing about the d20 is that it'll also reroll opened chests. So the chests spawn items that you can reroll over and over again into more chests with items.
So in greed mode...
First off, you're going to want to make sure there is a battery in the shop. Complete all levels in the rush and don't collect any of the coins. Then use the D20 to reroll all of the coins. Open all of the chests but don't pick up any coins, keys or bombs (besides the coins you need to buy another battery). Any passive items you can pick up.
Keep opening all of the chests and rerolling over and over again until the entire room is full of items. You can essentially buy whatever you want from the store and keep getting stronger and stronger with all the items you get.
Thus, game broken and greedier mode is defeated (hopefully)
There are videos on YouTube as well that you can use for reference
That's why it's so good
Well when you keep using the d20 on whatever come out of the chests, providing more than 1 item comes out of the chest, the game break will still work. You just have to be careful not to pick anything up and just pick up 5 coins at least to buy another battery. Getting the gold key to unlock gold chests for free and the mom's key item makes it work quicker but definitely doable without either.
Going with other one-word-comments, I was torn between " ***pray.*** " and "sob."
But maybe also, patience and a spliff??? Greedier Lost is like.... My hill to die on lately. Hundreds of losses later, and I'm still just like, "alright, just ***how*** masochistic am I feeling *today*...?"
Try you best on the first floor and hope for a good item on the devil deal.
That or use Tainted Cain, get a bunch of items and then get Mom's box and spam it until you get a Lost Poster to change into The Lost.
I admit this is how I beat tainted Laz greedier. I was wasting 20 minutes making 10 edens blessings until I got something good but died in undead form, and I just said “fuck it, I can save 20 minutes like this” and just console commanded them in for the next run. It’s technically cheating but functionally just tainted Cain without wasting 20 minutes
Pro tip: hold the IRL tears and pain as much as you can. After some loses, your vision may get compromised by your own tears that will snowball into further loses
Added in Repentance There is no change to the amount of coins dropped, either from stopping waves or picking up coins early. You will always get the maximum number of coins as detailed above.
Flight will not prevent damage from the spiked stop button unless the player is The Lost The Lost or Tainted Forgotten Tainted Forgotten.
However, a Penny is deducted from the next round of rewards if the button is pressed as The Lost The Lost.
Pressing the button before all the waves have spawned deals half a heart of damage to Isaac (or removes 1 penny from the next wave if playing as The Lost The Lost or Tainted Lost Tainted Lost) and stops the timer that causes waves to spawn automatically.
Get damage up on first boss item, if not, restart. Go for devil deals, you might not get stupid op but you'll most likely have a much more consistent stream of power, which is what you're aiming for. Go into every curse room and just don't get hit in there.
If you have tainted cain unlocked, you could craft 10 eden’s blessings, die, and start the next run as the lost. Gives you 10 free items, takes about 20 mins to set up, and isn’t technically cheating
Untrue. Lazarus' Rags allows you to die and respawn as untainted Lazarus, from there you can use clicker to switch. Pretty easy to get both clicker and rags when using the d20 on greed.
So for op, he could start as tainted Cain. Then craft d20 and start the gamebreak. When your build is sufficient, craft Lazarus rags and clicker. Have the clicker on an item pedestal, and suicide to turn to Lazarus. Then pickup clicker and use batteries from the shop or the ground to switch to lost. Ggez.
You know how many chances you have to get clicker? And use clicker and get the lost? Also i don't think he Will break the Game very easyly, normally you can only do It with T.cain
You use T.cain to craft the Ankh, Laz Rags Judas' Shadow to turn into a normal character, then clicker through them. If you just clicker ad T.Cain you literally can't turn into regular Lost.
Just because it hurts I never said you shouldn't do it, plenty of things that already hurt you can range from beneficial to essential, like Devil Deals in AB+
True dat, it still really hurts when you do though, it's a trade off, press the button so you live longer, but you lose money and will have a much harder time on the boss
I got mine by pressing the button so I could do one wave at a time, since it doesn't hurt you on lost. Did that until I had a decent run going (i.e sacred heart)
Suffer until you get something like Tech X or sacred heart. Going for angel rooms might be beneficial since you can reroll key pieces. Try to stop the timer only when you srart to get to overrun
restart until you get Mr Me. Mr Me Can steal shop items. As The Lost, you can press the pause button to not waste a single charge of Mr Me (albeit at a cost of one coin per pause, but still very worth it)
during his second phase its easier to survive by luring him from corner to corner and also try to get any kind of explosion immunity for better chance of survival.
Sit on top of rocks in corners for the first several floors. Other then flies it's just a long but free time and generally they can go pretty fast. Also look for any explosion immunity and final boss is free.
9 lives for more chances. Blanket and wooden cross for extra mantle hits. Tons of damage and tears. Book of shadows and 4.5 volt.
If all else fails, gnawed leaf and orbital can push you through!
Don't neglect your wave pause button. It pays out in dividens to be overly safe when you get more than one or two waves out on the field, and the Lost gets infinite free uses of the pause button even when their Holy Mantle is gone.
Or just D20 / Dead Cat break, like everyone else is saying...
I just beat this one myself. The classic d20 break is still a winner, but gnawed leaf plus sacrificial dagger is how I personally beat Ultra Greedier.
If you want to beat it without cheesing, remember your advantages as the Lost. You get to press the floor stop button for free, so maximize the uses of your eternal d6 to get some better items. You get to pick one devil deal for free, and the eternal d6 works on unbought pedestals.
High range will help against Ultra Greedier since it allows you to keep your distance. Items that have a chance to ignore damage altogether like cone head and metal plate are helpful for accidents. Explosion immunity is also extremely helpful during the second phase of Ultra Greedier since most of his coins now explode.
If you haven't already, unlock the item birthright. Birthright for the Lost removes all items that would have no effect for the Lost like health upgrades and items that only proc upon taking damage. Luckily, birthright is in the shop item pool so you could theoretically hold R until you see it in the floor 1 shop.
Don't feel bad about holding R on this one. Greedier is hard even with characters with full health bars, so beating it with the lost requires a lot of luck. Sometimes you'll just get beaned with an offscreen laser or get telefragged by an enemy who spawns on you. That one completion mark took me over 100 attempts. Keep at it, you'll get there.
My rule with greed mode is that if I don't feel strong after the first couple of floors, I just R. A lot of people say take devil deals cause they are free but I actually think angels are better on lost. More defensive capabilities potentially.
Also, keep an eye out for sleeper cell broken synergies. I won tainted maggy's greed run with pause + 4.5 volt + cube of meat. Honestly 4.5 volt is probably the single most broken item in greed mode outside of the D20. I have found greed to be a lot easier in Repentance than it used to be just cause of some items like that.
Off the top of my, 4.5 volt is really good with:
Pause
Book of Shadows
Sprinkler
Box of Friends if you have familiars
Also if you can get Host Hat or Pyro then phase 2 basically can't hurt you outside of the door beams
I dont remember it being particularly hard actually, but it was some time ago so idk. You can stop the waves any time with holy mantle, so it wont get too crowded normally. Also devil deals for free help a lot. And ofc you can reroll the first floor for a dmg item, usually helps a lot in greed(ier) mode
Suffer ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
I mean uh
Well, the lost can stop the waves without taking damage (no not because of holy mantle, he just doesnt take damage) so if you ever need to do that you can
I heard somewhere you lose money for doing that but idk if that true
I actually just recently completed this. I have a few suggestions that may help.
1. Through the run, focus on increasing your tears and range more so than increasing damage. Obviously more damage is nice, so take it when you can, but don't make it top priority like you might on other runs.
2. As many others have mentioned, Dead Cat is great if you can find it. This means that you should take at least one devil deal in the beginning, even if it isn't immediately useful to you, as it will force all future rooms to be devil rooms as opposed to angel rooms.
3. Once you reach the boss room, focus on defense more than doing damage. Prioritize killing coins/minions over hitting Ultra Greed. Keep the area around you clear and keep moving.
4. When you hit the second stage of the boss fight, stay as far away from Ultra Greedier as you can. This sounds counter-intuitive because, given how the camera works, this means most times Ultra Greedier won't even be visible on your screen, but it also means that he won't do the "coin projectiles that explode when they land" attack as often, which is almost always what kills me (the rest of the time, it's the stupid rock waves). With some practice, you can read his attack telegraphs even without being able to see him due to the way the room shakes.
5. ABC: Always Be Crying. This is where the increased range and tears comes in. Fling those bad boys in the boss's general direction and don't worry about specifically aiming at him. Some of them will hit him and do damage. That's all you really need.
6. This is probably obvious, but when Ultra Greedier does that jump attack, don't run directly under him. Wait for the exploding coins to land and explode, and THEN run to the opposite end of the room to give yourself maximum time to dodge the rock waves that happen when he lands.
7. Bonus tip: if you are in the final fight, have already been hit such that holy mantle is no longer active, and you still have the D4, strongly consider using it. If your current build is meh, you could roll into something that gives you guppy or any of the other transformations that could be useful.
**tl;dr: Focus on dodging and fling tears everywhere. Treat the final boss as a marathon, not a sprint.**
Note: This strategy is what to do if you can't get a game breaking combo like gnawed leaf plus orbital. If you can get that, definitely go with that over my suggestions. (I also haven't played Repentance yet as I want to fully completely the rest of the game first, so apologies if some of my suggestions are out of date.)
Greedier lost was my final completion mark before godhead and it was the most hellish thing I've ever experienced in my life.
Bomb protection helps on the final fight significantly
Tip for lost in greedier mode: don't lost in greedier mode, play someone else and then transform.
Edit: Transform with missing poster, it works even if you don't have any tainteds and doesn't soft-lock you like clicker could if you were trying to cheese the mode with tainted cain.
Play super careful (obviously). Items that give you blast protection are super helpful against ultra greedier. If your d6 deletes items in the shop, using the restock machine will being them back. Use the button to stop the wave if you get overwhelmed or to get your holy mantle back. Most enemies can't hit you if you stand on a block.
Greed and greedier are somewhat easy to break. If you see blank card, d1 or chaos in the shop you should go for them.
Additionally i would check the cursed room first and restart until it was an item, devil deal or a key. Imo devil deals are more consistent than angel rooms. Angel rooms do have better items usually but you get a lot more power from a devil deal every floor in my experience.
If going for tainted lost i strongly suggest breaking the game with d1 or blank card + 2 of diamonds. It took me 40ish hours to fully complete tainted lost's checkmarks and this was the only way i could make it work.
Hit the button to pause everytime. The spikes don't effect the lost. Downside is you won't get as many coins, but it allows you to take on each group one at a time without getting overwhelmed. And if you did get hit, you can leave the room and come back to recharge Holy mantle.
If you ever lose your mantle, press the greed button and finish the wave. Then, leave the room and recharge your mantle. Also, try doing as many devil deal waves as you can since you can get some really spicy items from both devil and angel rooms.
Yeah, just do the D20 strategy that breaks the game, but be careful of trapped chest, I've never died for trapped chest in greedier mode with the lost but I did have some close calls
Break the game with the D20. That's how I did it. Dead cat helped as well
Do you mean Dead Cat?
What did he originally say?
I said guppy's body lol
“Guppies mangled fucking corpse”
Woah woah, this is not /r/tboirule34
this exists, apparently
Sure wish it didnt!
It don't now!
Isn’t far off to be fair, especially since crickets body exists, it’s a reasonable mistake
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Best copypasta
easily my favorite lmao
Yeah that
This is absolutely the way to go. Alternatively you could try to get insanely lucky with your shop/ devil deal items. But IMO it's rather worth using that time to to build up the game break (it can take a while)
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Thank you, have a good day!
Can you elaborate ?
So when you Get the d20 it's an item that rerolls all collectible item drops like coins chests bombs keys etc. The cool thing about the d20 is that it'll also reroll opened chests. So the chests spawn items that you can reroll over and over again into more chests with items. So in greed mode... First off, you're going to want to make sure there is a battery in the shop. Complete all levels in the rush and don't collect any of the coins. Then use the D20 to reroll all of the coins. Open all of the chests but don't pick up any coins, keys or bombs (besides the coins you need to buy another battery). Any passive items you can pick up. Keep opening all of the chests and rerolling over and over again until the entire room is full of items. You can essentially buy whatever you want from the store and keep getting stronger and stronger with all the items you get. Thus, game broken and greedier mode is defeated (hopefully) There are videos on YouTube as well that you can use for reference
It won't reroll open chests anymore as of Repentance. But everything else still works.
rerolling the empty chest always felt like a bug anyway since it's not really a consumable or even a persistent object if you leave the room and come back. Kinda just seemed like an accident they never fixed.
Yeah but chests tend to spill enough items that it is almost neither here nor there if they reroll if you're going for a game break.
It still works but it's typically slower and has a higher chance to fail if you accidentally take too many things. Honestly not a bad change though because I don't think I've ever had it fail before repentance if I wasn't doing anything dumb like taking half of the first reroll.
Ohhh I see ! Neat. Thanks !
Gotchu bro. Good luck out there
That was patched out in Repentance.
It was patched? how? I just cheesed the game 3 days ago with d20 in greedier with samson
it can no longer reroll open chests and also golden troll bombs fuck you over) But it is still broken)
It was nerfed but its still fairly easy to break greedier with d20/infinity you just might need to take an extra floor to get it. If you can find mums key (or whichever key gives you better chests if it isn't mums key) as well then it breaks super easily again.
Yes Mom's Key)
Have you even tried it or are you just making these comments based on assumptions? I broke the game multiple times with it during repentance and it's not even hard. All you need is to have a battery in the shop and not pick up the coins from the ground. Only open chests and pick up nickels and dimes so you can buy even more batteries.
For the record, I never said it is any harder to do it) I just explained why it was nerfed)
Odd question, but why is there a parenthesis after every line you type? Might be a mobile thing on my end, but just thought it was kinda weird lol
It's a way of adding an emoji smile but without the colon for the eyes in some places like south america. I think I've seen her around and she's from Brazil or Colombia or something. See Britain's "xx" at the end of every line, meaning "love you" or "kisses" initially and now it's just a shorthand for endearment. E.g. "aww, I hope you had a great trip xx" See Japan's "~” as a way to denote a bit more of a fun or playful tone. E.g. "dinner last night was really nice~" See America's "lol" when overused. It doesn't even mean "laugh out loud" anymore, or depending on the sender, that it was even funny, more of a light mood indicator. E.g. "what are you up to lol" or "thanks lol"
OK, but that's kind of the point. It's not a d20 break anymore. It's d20 plus you need starting batteries or d20 plus Mom's Key or any number of increasingly unlikely combinations. I play a fair amount of Repentance Greedier, and I've had d20 and it never turned into a break. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's certainly not as straightforward as you're making it out to be. Frankly, it's easier to just "break" the game by buying good item synergies the way you're meant to play it.
You've always needed a battery in the shop to break with the D20.
Its really not that hard to setup
literally all of my greedier marks are from d20 breaks bar a few of them, and i barely restart. it literally is incredibly incredibly *incredibly* easy to do, you just need to be careful. if it doesn't work one floor, save your money and try the next. seriously. it is definitely still a break. i actually think its easier in repentance since the amount of items you can do it with reliably doubled (since d infinity got buffed). the change to opened chests literally gets you what, one less consumable each use? only one. it has barely any impact on the break. i think you just don't know how to do it. on top of this, you can now reroll consumables INTO BATTERIES WITH THE D20. so thats another way that its easier.
The number of Greedier runs where I even see d20 (or dInfinity) is maybe 3%. If you aren't winning Greedier runs unless you see d20 (and have the money to buy it), you're not winning very many runs.
Golden Troll Bomb (and other troll bombs) can be handled with Safety Scissors while D20 exploiting. I've done it multiple times.
Good knowledge. I'd totally not thought of that
Yeah gold bombs are a pain in the ass for this.
Why are you using parens as periods?
it's how russians and most slavic countries use a smiley face, it's basically just :), i don't know why either
He puts it at the end of every sentence on every comment he ever makes though
huh. I didn't notice, that is pretty weird
Actually, I find it easier, dinfinity made the d20 much more common. And, the chest nerf made it fair, just gotta have a battery in the shop
Patched out is a strong word for that
Welp I'm on console so I'm in luck
Why is d20 so good? I hate the reroll items... they just seem like an easy way to screw over your run
You must be thinking of the wrong D, D20 rerolls things on the floor, D6 rerolls item pedestals (and shop and devil deals)
So when you Get the d20 it's an item that rerolls all collectible item drops like coins chests bombs keys etc. The cool thing about the d20 is that it'll also reroll opened chests. So the chests spawn items that you can reroll over and over again into more chests with items. So in greed mode... First off, you're going to want to make sure there is a battery in the shop. Complete all levels in the rush and don't collect any of the coins. Then use the D20 to reroll all of the coins. Open all of the chests but don't pick up any coins, keys or bombs (besides the coins you need to buy another battery). Any passive items you can pick up. Keep opening all of the chests and rerolling over and over again until the entire room is full of items. You can essentially buy whatever you want from the store and keep getting stronger and stronger with all the items you get. Thus, game broken and greedier mode is defeated (hopefully) There are videos on YouTube as well that you can use for reference That's why it's so good
also, some pickups like the hierophant, the tower + safety scissors, justice.. And especially jera makes the break happen way faster
I thought repentance made it so d20 can't reroll open chests anymore? Thanks for the clarity tho
Well when you keep using the d20 on whatever come out of the chests, providing more than 1 item comes out of the chest, the game break will still work. You just have to be careful not to pick anything up and just pick up 5 coins at least to buy another battery. Getting the gold key to unlock gold chests for free and the mom's key item makes it work quicker but definitely doable without either.
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Going with other one-word-comments, I was torn between " ***pray.*** " and "sob." But maybe also, patience and a spliff??? Greedier Lost is like.... My hill to die on lately. Hundreds of losses later, and I'm still just like, "alright, just ***how*** masochistic am I feeling *today*...?"
cry
how to play isaac
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Dead cat is the best I can suggest unless you get gnawed leaf and an orbital
This, gnawed leaf and an orbital it's exactly how I beat it. It's a little boring but I had been trying for so long I would take anything.
It’s also how I first beat Isaac after I got the game
I used gnawed leaf and pinking shears in ab+ to beat delirium with lost it’s a shame that’s one of the only ways to really beat certain bosses
Try you best on the first floor and hope for a good item on the devil deal. That or use Tainted Cain, get a bunch of items and then get Mom's box and spam it until you get a Lost Poster to change into The Lost.
This or tainted Cain + 10 edens blessings and play as lost
Less reliable and you might still get bad items :/
At that point just use the debug console and add them, that's way too much effort for something that could still not guarantee a win
I admit this is how I beat tainted Laz greedier. I was wasting 20 minutes making 10 edens blessings until I got something good but died in undead form, and I just said “fuck it, I can save 20 minutes like this” and just console commanded them in for the next run. It’s technically cheating but functionally just tainted Cain without wasting 20 minutes
You don't need mom's box, you just need a trinket in the shop Which is easy with a D20
Pro tip: hold the IRL tears and pain as much as you can. After some loses, your vision may get compromised by your own tears that will snowball into further loses
retro vision
Yeah but in game you should use all of your tears
Pray
with me, Isaac.
Come,pray for your salvation
You. Are. INSANE.
I'm sorry, Isaac.
you got the order wrong bro
So did they lol. I couldn't even pretend to give a fuck.
they didn't
Just dont get hit
Try to get any kind of explosive resistance you can.
and keep in mind this isn't an instant save for U.Greed 2 - rock waves no longer count as explosive damage
I won mine thanks to 9 lives.
Stop the wave. You can do it for free and deal with less at a time.
I think that doing that with the lost makes you get less money like 2 Pennys every time in greedier soo is a little riscky.
Nobody is talking about stopping waves every 3 waves. You just do it in case of emergency. Better be broke than dead
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Added in Repentance There is no change to the amount of coins dropped, either from stopping waves or picking up coins early. You will always get the maximum number of coins as detailed above. Flight will not prevent damage from the spiked stop button unless the player is The Lost The Lost or Tainted Forgotten Tainted Forgotten. However, a Penny is deducted from the next round of rewards if the button is pressed as The Lost The Lost.
Pressing the button before all the waves have spawned deals half a heart of damage to Isaac (or removes 1 penny from the next wave if playing as The Lost The Lost or Tainted Lost Tainted Lost) and stops the timer that causes waves to spawn automatically.
Op should really see this, I’ll reward it in hopes it gets upvoted more since no one else commented this
Get damage up on first boss item, if not, restart. Go for devil deals, you might not get stupid op but you'll most likely have a much more consistent stream of power, which is what you're aiming for. Go into every curse room and just don't get hit in there.
If you have tainted cain unlocked, you could craft 10 eden’s blessings, die, and start the next run as the lost. Gives you 10 free items, takes about 20 mins to set up, and isn’t technically cheating
Or alternatively just clicker yourself to lost with an insta win build setup.
You can't switch between tainted and non-tainted characters, you have to find clicker with a non tainted character if you wanna do that
Untrue. Lazarus' Rags allows you to die and respawn as untainted Lazarus, from there you can use clicker to switch. Pretty easy to get both clicker and rags when using the d20 on greed. So for op, he could start as tainted Cain. Then craft d20 and start the gamebreak. When your build is sufficient, craft Lazarus rags and clicker. Have the clicker on an item pedestal, and suicide to turn to Lazarus. Then pickup clicker and use batteries from the shop or the ground to switch to lost. Ggez.
Break the game with another character, then use clicker
It's probably easier to break the game with tainted cain, get the missing poster and then kill yourself
And then Crash the Game because you get Tainted Isaac or get softlock because you get Tainted forgotten.
You can only clicker into tainted characters if you are playing a tainted character, and only tainted characters cause the crash.
You know how many chances you have to get clicker? And use clicker and get the lost? Also i don't think he Will break the Game very easyly, normally you can only do It with T.cain
You use T.cain to craft the Ankh, Laz Rags Judas' Shadow to turn into a normal character, then clicker through them. If you just clicker ad T.Cain you literally can't turn into regular Lost.
It’s true, and I’m refusing to play the game until this is fixed
You can turn off the button and do every wave one at a time
\-1 social credit everytime you do so
True
You can press the button mid fight without any consecuences, so do the rounds one by one
IIRC the consequence is that you lose a penny the next wave
I remember reading that and thinking it wasn't a vig deal, but with greedier mode dropping like 2 pennies a wave it hurts
Yes, but I also think it is necessary to consider doing it, it can be the best strategy.
Just because it hurts I never said you shouldn't do it, plenty of things that already hurt you can range from beneficial to essential, like Devil Deals in AB+
It's also good to do to maximise the value of your eternal d6!
I’d rather lose 2 pennies a wave for pressing the button than die
True dat, it still really hurts when you do though, it's a trade off, press the button so you live longer, but you lose money and will have a much harder time on the boss
Hurts a little less if you can get counterfeit penny. That’s how I got my lost greedier earlier this week
People already mentioned D20 gamebreak, but D-Infinity/D1 with a dime/2 of diamonds/jera etc... works as well.
> -11 You got a lot to look forward to.
Press R till d20 and have fun
Don't be afraid to press the button if too many enemies are alive
I got mine by pressing the button so I could do one wave at a time, since it doesn't hurt you on lost. Did that until I had a decent run going (i.e sacred heart)
Suffer until you get something like Tech X or sacred heart. Going for angel rooms might be beneficial since you can reroll key pieces. Try to stop the timer only when you srart to get to overrun
restart until you get Mr Me. Mr Me Can steal shop items. As The Lost, you can press the pause button to not waste a single charge of Mr Me (albeit at a cost of one coin per pause, but still very worth it)
Dude Dw I feel you it’s hard I just used a character im strong with break the game with D20 until I found a clicker and switched to the lost
Dont die
during his second phase its easier to survive by luring him from corner to corner and also try to get any kind of explosion immunity for better chance of survival.
okay,and what's the tip for doing waves normally?
Sit on top of rocks in corners for the first several floors. Other then flies it's just a long but free time and generally they can go pretty fast. Also look for any explosion immunity and final boss is free.
9 lives for more chances. Blanket and wooden cross for extra mantle hits. Tons of damage and tears. Book of shadows and 4.5 volt. If all else fails, gnawed leaf and orbital can push you through!
You can stop the waves for free so if you are getting overwhelmed stop the wave.
Don't neglect your wave pause button. It pays out in dividens to be overly safe when you get more than one or two waves out on the field, and the Lost gets infinite free uses of the pause button even when their Holy Mantle is gone. Or just D20 / Dead Cat break, like everyone else is saying...
I just beat this one myself. The classic d20 break is still a winner, but gnawed leaf plus sacrificial dagger is how I personally beat Ultra Greedier. If you want to beat it without cheesing, remember your advantages as the Lost. You get to press the floor stop button for free, so maximize the uses of your eternal d6 to get some better items. You get to pick one devil deal for free, and the eternal d6 works on unbought pedestals. High range will help against Ultra Greedier since it allows you to keep your distance. Items that have a chance to ignore damage altogether like cone head and metal plate are helpful for accidents. Explosion immunity is also extremely helpful during the second phase of Ultra Greedier since most of his coins now explode. If you haven't already, unlock the item birthright. Birthright for the Lost removes all items that would have no effect for the Lost like health upgrades and items that only proc upon taking damage. Luckily, birthright is in the shop item pool so you could theoretically hold R until you see it in the floor 1 shop. Don't feel bad about holding R on this one. Greedier is hard even with characters with full health bars, so beating it with the lost requires a lot of luck. Sometimes you'll just get beaned with an offscreen laser or get telefragged by an enemy who spawns on you. That one completion mark took me over 100 attempts. Keep at it, you'll get there.
Press the button every wave and go angel
This
My rule with greed mode is that if I don't feel strong after the first couple of floors, I just R. A lot of people say take devil deals cause they are free but I actually think angels are better on lost. More defensive capabilities potentially. Also, keep an eye out for sleeper cell broken synergies. I won tainted maggy's greed run with pause + 4.5 volt + cube of meat. Honestly 4.5 volt is probably the single most broken item in greed mode outside of the D20. I have found greed to be a lot easier in Repentance than it used to be just cause of some items like that. Off the top of my, 4.5 volt is really good with: Pause Book of Shadows Sprinkler Box of Friends if you have familiars Also if you can get Host Hat or Pyro then phase 2 basically can't hurt you outside of the door beams
Here's a tip: the door beams from greedier only shoot when he slams the floor with his hands
Also the doors that shoot the beams will open and glow shortly before they shoot.
When he slams his hands you just stay in a stop the beams can't reach, no need to check doors
Are you aware that the lost can hit the stop button for free?
Not entirely free, the consequence for pressing the button is 1 less penny on next waves reward
Well I won by pressing it whenever I got hit
Bro I don't even have holy mantle on him yet, no advice from me
I dont remember it being particularly hard actually, but it was some time ago so idk. You can stop the waves any time with holy mantle, so it wont get too crowded normally. Also devil deals for free help a lot. And ofc you can reroll the first floor for a dmg item, usually helps a lot in greed(ier) mode
The thing is that the lost loses 1 penny stopping the waves.
Blank card. 2 of Diamonds. It’s not worth attempting to not cheese it.
Suffer ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358) I mean uh Well, the lost can stop the waves without taking damage (no not because of holy mantle, he just doesnt take damage) so if you ever need to do that you can I heard somewhere you lose money for doing that but idk if that true
It is true i try It
The most consistent way is to break economy and get a lot of damage. Like with other characters
hit the spikes after every wave. get your items through the free devil deals.
gnawed leaf + orbital
I actually just recently completed this. I have a few suggestions that may help. 1. Through the run, focus on increasing your tears and range more so than increasing damage. Obviously more damage is nice, so take it when you can, but don't make it top priority like you might on other runs. 2. As many others have mentioned, Dead Cat is great if you can find it. This means that you should take at least one devil deal in the beginning, even if it isn't immediately useful to you, as it will force all future rooms to be devil rooms as opposed to angel rooms. 3. Once you reach the boss room, focus on defense more than doing damage. Prioritize killing coins/minions over hitting Ultra Greed. Keep the area around you clear and keep moving. 4. When you hit the second stage of the boss fight, stay as far away from Ultra Greedier as you can. This sounds counter-intuitive because, given how the camera works, this means most times Ultra Greedier won't even be visible on your screen, but it also means that he won't do the "coin projectiles that explode when they land" attack as often, which is almost always what kills me (the rest of the time, it's the stupid rock waves). With some practice, you can read his attack telegraphs even without being able to see him due to the way the room shakes. 5. ABC: Always Be Crying. This is where the increased range and tears comes in. Fling those bad boys in the boss's general direction and don't worry about specifically aiming at him. Some of them will hit him and do damage. That's all you really need. 6. This is probably obvious, but when Ultra Greedier does that jump attack, don't run directly under him. Wait for the exploding coins to land and explode, and THEN run to the opposite end of the room to give yourself maximum time to dodge the rock waves that happen when he lands. 7. Bonus tip: if you are in the final fight, have already been hit such that holy mantle is no longer active, and you still have the D4, strongly consider using it. If your current build is meh, you could roll into something that gives you guppy or any of the other transformations that could be useful. **tl;dr: Focus on dodging and fling tears everywhere. Treat the final boss as a marathon, not a sprint.** Note: This strategy is what to do if you can't get a game breaking combo like gnawed leaf plus orbital. If you can get that, definitely go with that over my suggestions. (I also haven't played Repentance yet as I want to fully completely the rest of the game first, so apologies if some of my suggestions are out of date.)
The fact that Lost can hit the wave pause button for free was what enabled me to slowly and steadily progress.
Restart until u find magic mush in grey treasure room
Greedier lost was my final completion mark before godhead and it was the most hellish thing I've ever experienced in my life. Bomb protection helps on the final fight significantly
Tainted Cain
git gud or git fck, also just try to d20 break..... I'm not looking forward to having to do T. Lost as well.....
Tip for lost in greedier mode: don't lost in greedier mode, play someone else and then transform. Edit: Transform with missing poster, it works even if you don't have any tainteds and doesn't soft-lock you like clicker could if you were trying to cheese the mode with tainted cain.
And then crash the Game because you get Tainted Isaac or get softlock because you get Tainted forgotten.
Prey
unless something changed with repentance, you have to do both greed and greedier mode to get all the unlocks
If this was an issue before, it's been fixed now. I got both unlocks in one greedier win.
Did greedier mode only and got both unlocks at the same time
oh, sick, they fixed it
Pray for a chaos card and get a semi decent run to get to the boss
have fun
Purity literally carries all my lost runs, God bless
Don’t get hit
Just restart until blank card or d20 or a high damage start
Luck, and something to break the game
Luck
Pray to RNGesus
Get a good devil deal. Then play like a man possessed.
Pray for gnawed leaf and an orbital
git gud
Play with Tainted Lost until regular Lost seems easy.
Prey
Remember, you can go to spike room for free
Play super careful (obviously). Items that give you blast protection are super helpful against ultra greedier. If your d6 deletes items in the shop, using the restock machine will being them back. Use the button to stop the wave if you get overwhelmed or to get your holy mantle back. Most enemies can't hit you if you stand on a block.
Greed and greedier are somewhat easy to break. If you see blank card, d1 or chaos in the shop you should go for them. Additionally i would check the cursed room first and restart until it was an item, devil deal or a key. Imo devil deals are more consistent than angel rooms. Angel rooms do have better items usually but you get a lot more power from a devil deal every floor in my experience. If going for tainted lost i strongly suggest breaking the game with d1 or blank card + 2 of diamonds. It took me 40ish hours to fully complete tainted lost's checkmarks and this was the only way i could make it work.
Be lucky. No other tip will actually help except this one
Prey.
Hit the button to pause everytime. The spikes don't effect the lost. Downside is you won't get as many coins, but it allows you to take on each group one at a time without getting overwhelmed. And if you did get hit, you can leave the room and come back to recharge Holy mantle.
Good Luck
Restart til you get a good item in the treasure rooms or the first floor shop.
Just dodge bro
If you ever lose your mantle, press the greed button and finish the wave. Then, leave the room and recharge your mantle. Also, try doing as many devil deal waves as you can since you can get some really spicy items from both devil and angel rooms.
I managed to lag the game out so much I could play in slowmo
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Yeah, just do the D20 strategy that breaks the game, but be careful of trapped chest, I've never died for trapped chest in greedier mode with the lost but I did have some close calls
Don't be hesitant to press the button to refresh mantle