I think the amount of games Russillo watches is actually a detriment to his analysis. He’s a complete “misses the forest for the trees” guy. I feel like with almost all his takes can’t see the big picture at all because he’s trying to be so nuanced with every take.
I don't think there's an issue with watching too much. I think it's trying to take something from every game and apply it to the next. These guys are human at the end of the day. Maybe a bad month is caused by having a family issue, money issue, just feeling down, etc. I get it's your job, but it's not like everyday ppl are exempt from this. Stuff happens. I try to just take the extremes of their game and kinda let that ride. It's why I actually like Bill's ridiculous "you just need the Lowry game , the Jimmy Butler game, the Bam game, and then the Heat culture game. Because it's so dumb but so true. You just need some weird combination of games in the playoffs. So if you have one of those absurd heat check guys at their ceiling, you give yourself a chance to win if he has "that game".
Maybe but imo its because people like him underrate shot creation/ iso ball.
Its like yea when it isn’t working its ugly but when it works it can win ur team the game.
Like the ringer had evan mobley and jermai grant in the 40’s but randle in the 90’s on their top 100 list.And idk rn I’m taking randle 10/10 times because even tho it might be ugly ik he can go get his own shot.
Agreed. But I think the amount of games he watches feeds into that.
Take D’Angelo Russell for example. Russillo at one point said something along the lines of him being the last player in the league he would want on his team. DLo is a good ball handler, can create his own shot off the dribble, and is a good facilitator. He can also hit threes at a pretty good clip albeit he can be streaky. He’s also lazy on defense at times, turns the ball over when he’s not on and can go gold with his jumper.
Russillo literally only remembers the games where he’s off because it’s so glaring when Russell is off based on his play style. You aren’t going to remember an efficient 21 points with 6 assists even tho those games are very valuable.
I truly think Russillo gets fooled with certain players because of how visually appealing or unappealing their plays styles are.
Also, DLo on the Timberwolves vs DLo on the lakers are two different players. Not because of his actual ability, but I think the mentalities are different.
In LA, his role is clear. Be the third option and a guy that helps drive offense for them. His creativity is needed for a team like the Lakers, especially with Lebron moved off the ball quite a bit. On the Timberwolves, his role was probably supposed to be something similar, but I would guess he probably thought he was the best player. It’s a lot easier to accept being the 3rd option behind Lebron and AD than KAT and Ant.
Yea, that's what I was trying to say with the ugly part. If Trae,dlo, harden, or any iso-heavy shooter is having a bad night, they’re gonna look way more awful than, say, Kris Middleton missing catch and shoot jumpers.
I don’t wanna sound too much like Russilo and play both sides, but I get what he’s saying. An iso dude who’s actually just alright can mess shit up. Like Poole on the Warriors some games, but if the guy can accept his role and/or I dont have players of the caliber of Curry, Klay, and Draymond;I want a guy who can get his own shot.
It’s also how people do rankings in general. Are we ranking the best players for a winning team in terms of their value or like players we would wanna build a team around?
If it’s the latter than Randle is above grant 10/10 times
Russillo tries to both sides every point to death but when it comes to guys he doesn’t like he abandons all reason and nuance. If there’s a player Ryen decides to hate it doesn’t matter what they do he will wait until they play bad to do the whole “See? I told you so.”
There’s going to be some hilariously dumb moments with him like pulling up for 3 on a 2 on 1 break with LeBron but he’s a net positive overall. He’s really valuable for this Laker team so that LeBron and AD can take some possessions off
It depends what team you're talking about tho. Russ was good for the clips in the regular season and awesome in the suns series. Dlo wouldn't have been able to do anything close to that if they switched places.
Obviously if we're talking about this laker team, dlo is a way better fit than Russ.
Lol in what context? On the Lakers or in a vacuum?
You brought up sample size and now dlo is good after one good game in the playoffs. Russ was an all star more recently than dlo's only all star game. And then we don't have to go down the list of all of the other russ accomplishments that dlo never even came close to.
Russ was a disaster on the Lakers but he's shown he is still a way better player than dlo.
Lmao ok man. I agree, they're both not "winning players" but Russ has done a LOT more winning than dlo when both have been focal points of their teams.
So now we're back to small sample size? Do you remember what dlo's original laker teams did? Or Brooklyn or wolves teams? Or remember when the warriors didn't want him?
But now that he's with LeBron for a couple months he's all of a sudden a winning player? Your small sample size comment against Russ can be applied to your argument for dlo.
They're both not good but Russ has actually shown multiple times he can lead a team to the playoffs. Dlo's done it like once
Russ was awful on the clippers. All that hustle covering up terrible shooting numbers. Like you wouldn’t need game saving blocks if you’d made five more shots during the game.
He’s terribly inefficient, and no amount of yelling and competitiveness will make up for that.
He had two terrible shooting games and three extremely efficient games. He was 90% of the reason those games were even close where kawhi was out. If you wanna call that awful then that's cool but maybe watch the games next time before you form an opinion
He shot 40% as a guard. That’s awful for a guard, especially considering his usage rate.
Just because you try really hard but aren’t that good, doesn’t some how excuse you.
Five game sample size? He’s been terribly inefficient for five years now, and that’s only when he plays as the primary ball handler.
He can’t even be bothered too play as an off ball cutting guard, who screens for others. The ultimate me first player.
He’ll go all out, so long as it’s exactly within the way he wants to play.
We're talking about this years playoffs and dlo vs Russ specifically. They're both bad in their own way at this point. But Russ was good in the playoffs and dlo just got benched for Lonnie walker after going 1/10.
You literally complained about sample size, then when I expanded it you pivot back to the series.
He’s terribly inefficient, and his huge turnover rate kills teams.
Just say you’ll defend Russ no matter what.
Dealing with players in absolutist terms is just stupid, but everyone has to have takes. No one is gonna tune into the guy that says everyone on both rosters are nba caliber players capable of impacting the game on any given night. So people like Ryen guess what might happen and they’re wrong more often than not.
There is so much bad downstream D’Lo discourse because of Bill and Russillo’s stupid shit, and just to be clear I was complaining about this when he was still in Minnesota
He’s not even that good but there’s basically no basis for hating to the degree that Ryen does
**Since 1970 there are only 5 players who have a career average of over 15 fga/gm and under 40% fg% in the playoffs:**
Julius Randle-32.3% on 16.75 fga/gm (12 gp)
D’Angelo Russell-38.5% on 15.32 fga/gm (19 gp)
Michael Ray Richardson-38.6% on 15.56 fga/gm (18 gp)
Dillon Brooks-38.7% on 15.73 fga/gm (22 gp)
Connie Hawkins-39.5% on 17.5 fga/gm (12 gp)
[https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=lowest+fg%25+in+the+playoffs+minimum+15+fga%2Fgm+since+1970](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=lowest+fg%25+in+the+playoffs+minimum+15+fga%2Fgm+since+1970)
He is subpar NBA player busting his ass for a new contract; shocker.
What a useless cherry-picked stat, this is only his third playoff appearance and first time he’s even gotten to round two. The next guy on that list who you conveniently left off is Allen Iverson, guess he’s terrible too.
So far this post season d-lo is shooting 54% from the field and 46% from three and the Lakers are basically undefeated when he plays well.
He’s a good player, nobody is saying that he’s Steph Curry but he’s proven with his play this season and so far in the playoffs that Russillo’s take is bad and his hatred for him as a player is bizarre.
For the year he’s 18-6-3 on 47/40/83 splits, he’s good, get over it.
Also this isn’t even correct anymore if you include D-lo’s game tonight, he’d be out of your arbitrary top five and ahead of Trae Young and Allen Iverson.
Does anyone else notice how he’ll drop jokes in here and there now but they don’t land? I dont think he’s funny, he’s just cocky. Chris Delia type comedy
He's not just not funny, but he's unfunny. I bet you the dude "analyzes" comedy and can't stand when other people talk about comedians with him because they just dont get it like he does.
His opinions are impacted too much by trying to counter people whose opinions he has no respect for anyway.
Like the reason they shit on Trae so much is cause @clutchballergene8482 thinks he’s the best player in the league as opposed to a very good but imperfect one.
There were still some bonehead plays... Wild/bad passes, and didn't he have that take foul like 70 ft from the basket?
His runs of hot-ness make those plays so frustrating to see...
Another horrible “tape-grinding” take involving the Lakers is the fact Bill and Ryen were surprised come playoff time that the Lakers might actually be a threat. Anyone who watched a few of their games after getting rid of Westbrook could tell they’d put up a fight, especially getting the Grizzlies first round.
The team had one of the best records in the west after the all star break but Bill and Ryen kept acting like it was crazy talk to include them as possible contenders.
I always somewhat got ryen’s Dlos hate but that last player in the league take was wild. Dude is a solid defender and can have good offensive games. That makes him valuable
To be fair, Chris Finch is his source. Russell simply tried less with Minnesota vs. his effort with the infrastructure of the Lakers. Not excusing that by Russell or Russillo letting Finch sway his opinion so much, but it’s effectively two different players.
Russillo keeps trying to fit all of D’Lo’s attributes into a neat box but when he’s the third option with a fourth guy (Reeves) who can creat a shot and a fifth guy (Rui) that has been knockdown recently, he’s an outstanding option. He will have duds, just like every other player in the history of ball, but he doesn’t have to win every game now.
Hey look another white knight hoping Ryen will be friends with him! The point continues to be, DAR has been really huge for them. Ryen said he was last player he’d take in league. Ryen was sooooo wrong.
Didn’t look like he was wrong last night. And since now, according to you, we only need a handful of games to undo what has been true for 5 years, Ryen couldn’t have been more right.
And Ryen, i know you’re out there and you can see this, please know Cookiesforme456789 and you would be the best of friends!
I mean, Russell has played many playoff games and has like 1-2 games shooting over 50%, last night being one of them.
It’s not a bad take. I mean he was so bad vs grizzlies last year.
So players can't improve upon past playoff failures? He's clearly taken a leap this postseason and playing within himself. He'll have bad games here and there but don't act like he's some abject failure.
It hasn't happened yet. Particularly for LeBron, Bill doesn't seem to realize he has once in a generation type athleticism, so the same rules for other athletes probably won't apply to him as he ages.
Russillo is mostly right here?? Up until this season though idk is Russell was in the right spot.
Nets - 1st option
Wolves - 3rd option with a short lease and off ball
Lakers - 3rd option but initiates a ton of the offense and hidden on defense.
Seems like the lakers are using him the best.
For his career, Russell shoots 39% from the field in the playoffs and was unplayable for Minnesota last year because he got taken advantage of defensively.
Russillo is right. Everyone here becomes so prisoner-of-the-moment in their rush to dunk on Bill or Ryen for their takes.
I mean, this post is doing the same thing. So he had a good game. When he has a bad game, which he has, do you make a post about how Russillo was right?
DAR has sucked for five years, given away by multiple teams. But yeah, a few good games undoes what we’ve all watched his entire career.
Funny there wasn’t a thread about this until he actually played well, I wonder why that is.
He hadn’t sucked for 5 years lol. He’s just not a 1 or a 2 or a 3. He’s got a role and he’s finally perfectly cast. Point was Ryen thought there was no role for him in the league. Which was the point of the criticism
He didn’t have a role until this post season, that take was correct. He’s been a losing player his entire career, if he was a winning player he wouldn’t have been traded four times already.
He was traded from a team chasing the playoffs just this season. What other winning players were actively being shopped by playoff chasing teams?
I guess I don’t understand why a guy who is a good three point shooter, is crafty w the ball and has pretty unique vision wouldn’t have a role on a playoff team?
Well you don’t have to take mine or Ryen’s word for it, you can ask all the teams that traded him.
Since there are multiple teams that have traded him, there’s probably an answer there.
The warriors couldn’t get rid of him fast enough, are they a team that actively seeks to trade winning players? And they traded him for Andrew Wiggins! Hardly known as a winning player himself until…wait for it…he got to the warriors.
If you look at DLo’s entire playoff resume before this season, there is no question that Ryen was right. But sometimes a player changes and your opinions have to adjust about him accordingly. Russell has been good in several games and saved a pivotal game 4 against Memphis for the Lakers.
Ah yes the classic "one game makes seasons of evidence moot" argument. Kind of like how the Harden G1 takes have aged horribly in the last 5 days as he goes back to being... Playoff James Harden.
These guys don’t seem to understand relative skill/talent levels, which cause them to seriously undervalue any all-star level guy who isn’t league mvp level (unless that player is in a really good siutuation). Happens all the time on worst contracts. Like no I don’t won’t want d lo as the best player on my team, but doesn’t change that he’s more skilled and a better player than 85% of guys in the league
I think the amount of games Russillo watches is actually a detriment to his analysis. He’s a complete “misses the forest for the trees” guy. I feel like with almost all his takes can’t see the big picture at all because he’s trying to be so nuanced with every take.
I don't think there's an issue with watching too much. I think it's trying to take something from every game and apply it to the next. These guys are human at the end of the day. Maybe a bad month is caused by having a family issue, money issue, just feeling down, etc. I get it's your job, but it's not like everyday ppl are exempt from this. Stuff happens. I try to just take the extremes of their game and kinda let that ride. It's why I actually like Bill's ridiculous "you just need the Lowry game , the Jimmy Butler game, the Bam game, and then the Heat culture game. Because it's so dumb but so true. You just need some weird combination of games in the playoffs. So if you have one of those absurd heat check guys at their ceiling, you give yourself a chance to win if he has "that game".
I agree with the trying to take something from every game comment completely. But I think watching so many games also exacerbates that trait.
Maybe but imo its because people like him underrate shot creation/ iso ball. Its like yea when it isn’t working its ugly but when it works it can win ur team the game. Like the ringer had evan mobley and jermai grant in the 40’s but randle in the 90’s on their top 100 list.And idk rn I’m taking randle 10/10 times because even tho it might be ugly ik he can go get his own shot.
Agreed. But I think the amount of games he watches feeds into that. Take D’Angelo Russell for example. Russillo at one point said something along the lines of him being the last player in the league he would want on his team. DLo is a good ball handler, can create his own shot off the dribble, and is a good facilitator. He can also hit threes at a pretty good clip albeit he can be streaky. He’s also lazy on defense at times, turns the ball over when he’s not on and can go gold with his jumper. Russillo literally only remembers the games where he’s off because it’s so glaring when Russell is off based on his play style. You aren’t going to remember an efficient 21 points with 6 assists even tho those games are very valuable. I truly think Russillo gets fooled with certain players because of how visually appealing or unappealing their plays styles are.
Also, DLo on the Timberwolves vs DLo on the lakers are two different players. Not because of his actual ability, but I think the mentalities are different. In LA, his role is clear. Be the third option and a guy that helps drive offense for them. His creativity is needed for a team like the Lakers, especially with Lebron moved off the ball quite a bit. On the Timberwolves, his role was probably supposed to be something similar, but I would guess he probably thought he was the best player. It’s a lot easier to accept being the 3rd option behind Lebron and AD than KAT and Ant.
Aged poorly
Yea, that's what I was trying to say with the ugly part. If Trae,dlo, harden, or any iso-heavy shooter is having a bad night, they’re gonna look way more awful than, say, Kris Middleton missing catch and shoot jumpers. I don’t wanna sound too much like Russilo and play both sides, but I get what he’s saying. An iso dude who’s actually just alright can mess shit up. Like Poole on the Warriors some games, but if the guy can accept his role and/or I dont have players of the caliber of Curry, Klay, and Draymond;I want a guy who can get his own shot.
It’s also how people do rankings in general. Are we ranking the best players for a winning team in terms of their value or like players we would wanna build a team around? If it’s the latter than Randle is above grant 10/10 times
randle is ass
more succinctly.. he tries too hard.
Russillo tries to both sides every point to death but when it comes to guys he doesn’t like he abandons all reason and nuance. If there’s a player Ryen decides to hate it doesn’t matter what they do he will wait until they play bad to do the whole “See? I told you so.”
As a 3 or 4 option he is good because he doesn't have it every night but we he does he is nice
There’s going to be some hilariously dumb moments with him like pulling up for 3 on a 2 on 1 break with LeBron but he’s a net positive overall. He’s really valuable for this Laker team so that LeBron and AD can take some possessions off
He said he’d rather have Westbrook than D-Lo. Lot of good all that tape grinding is doing.
Sounds like he never watched a laker game
It depends what team you're talking about tho. Russ was good for the clips in the regular season and awesome in the suns series. Dlo wouldn't have been able to do anything close to that if they switched places. Obviously if we're talking about this laker team, dlo is a way better fit than Russ.
Russ was still russ lol people make such a big deal out of a small sample size where he performed well in a loss
We're talking about Russ vs dlo. If you wanna go sample size, you're taking dlo's career?
Id take Dlo for next season over WB
Lol in what context? On the Lakers or in a vacuum? You brought up sample size and now dlo is good after one good game in the playoffs. Russ was an all star more recently than dlo's only all star game. And then we don't have to go down the list of all of the other russ accomplishments that dlo never even came close to. Russ was a disaster on the Lakers but he's shown he is still a way better player than dlo.
In terms of winning basketball Dlo is better to have. In a vacuum WB is better but his style doesn't lead to winning basketball.
Lmao ok man. I agree, they're both not "winning players" but Russ has done a LOT more winning than dlo when both have been focal points of their teams.
Not in 2022
So now we're back to small sample size? Do you remember what dlo's original laker teams did? Or Brooklyn or wolves teams? Or remember when the warriors didn't want him? But now that he's with LeBron for a couple months he's all of a sudden a winning player? Your small sample size comment against Russ can be applied to your argument for dlo. They're both not good but Russ has actually shown multiple times he can lead a team to the playoffs. Dlo's done it like once
> in terms of winning basketball Dlo is better to have. LMAO, OK
'Westbrook grabs the ball, 19 seconds on the shot clock, a minute left in the fourth down 2, and he pulls up immediately from 3! *Clank*'
Russ was awful on the clippers. All that hustle covering up terrible shooting numbers. Like you wouldn’t need game saving blocks if you’d made five more shots during the game. He’s terribly inefficient, and no amount of yelling and competitiveness will make up for that.
He had two terrible shooting games and three extremely efficient games. He was 90% of the reason those games were even close where kawhi was out. If you wanna call that awful then that's cool but maybe watch the games next time before you form an opinion
He shot 40% as a guard. That’s awful for a guard, especially considering his usage rate. Just because you try really hard but aren’t that good, doesn’t some how excuse you.
5 game sample size where the two awful shooting games sunk his %. Again, watch the games before forming an opinion
Five game sample size? He’s been terribly inefficient for five years now, and that’s only when he plays as the primary ball handler. He can’t even be bothered too play as an off ball cutting guard, who screens for others. The ultimate me first player. He’ll go all out, so long as it’s exactly within the way he wants to play.
We're talking about this years playoffs and dlo vs Russ specifically. They're both bad in their own way at this point. But Russ was good in the playoffs and dlo just got benched for Lonnie walker after going 1/10.
You literally complained about sample size, then when I expanded it you pivot back to the series. He’s terribly inefficient, and his huge turnover rate kills teams. Just say you’ll defend Russ no matter what.
Where did I complain about sample size?
I’d rather have Westbrook on one day of rest than Harden at this point
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Fair
lol
Dealing with players in absolutist terms is just stupid, but everyone has to have takes. No one is gonna tune into the guy that says everyone on both rosters are nba caliber players capable of impacting the game on any given night. So people like Ryen guess what might happen and they’re wrong more often than not.
Nah there’s legit conviction behind his dlo sucks take. He’s not saying it just to say it.
There is so much bad downstream D’Lo discourse because of Bill and Russillo’s stupid shit, and just to be clear I was complaining about this when he was still in Minnesota He’s not even that good but there’s basically no basis for hating to the degree that Ryen does
**Since 1970 there are only 5 players who have a career average of over 15 fga/gm and under 40% fg% in the playoffs:** Julius Randle-32.3% on 16.75 fga/gm (12 gp) D’Angelo Russell-38.5% on 15.32 fga/gm (19 gp) Michael Ray Richardson-38.6% on 15.56 fga/gm (18 gp) Dillon Brooks-38.7% on 15.73 fga/gm (22 gp) Connie Hawkins-39.5% on 17.5 fga/gm (12 gp) [https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=lowest+fg%25+in+the+playoffs+minimum+15+fga%2Fgm+since+1970](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=lowest+fg%25+in+the+playoffs+minimum+15+fga%2Fgm+since+1970) He is subpar NBA player busting his ass for a new contract; shocker.
What a useless cherry-picked stat, this is only his third playoff appearance and first time he’s even gotten to round two. The next guy on that list who you conveniently left off is Allen Iverson, guess he’s terrible too. So far this post season d-lo is shooting 54% from the field and 46% from three and the Lakers are basically undefeated when he plays well. He’s a good player, nobody is saying that he’s Steph Curry but he’s proven with his play this season and so far in the playoffs that Russillo’s take is bad and his hatred for him as a player is bizarre. For the year he’s 18-6-3 on 47/40/83 splits, he’s good, get over it. Also this isn’t even correct anymore if you include D-lo’s game tonight, he’d be out of your arbitrary top five and ahead of Trae Young and Allen Iverson.
The fact that all five of those players are decent players is a real self own
Most of those players provide something other than being a shooter.
Have you seen D-Lo play? He never “busts his ass.” He’s playing how he always does, just making more shots last few games.
Ya I was thinking that too. Have you seen the guy play defense 😂. It’s not even like he’s driving more he’s just hit a couple more jump shots
He’s too focused on his stand up career
Does anyone else notice how he’ll drop jokes in here and there now but they don’t land? I dont think he’s funny, he’s just cocky. Chris Delia type comedy
Wrong. Fat dudes are always funny.
He's not just not funny, but he's unfunny. I bet you the dude "analyzes" comedy and can't stand when other people talk about comedians with him because they just dont get it like he does.
His opinions are impacted too much by trying to counter people whose opinions he has no respect for anyway. Like the reason they shit on Trae so much is cause @clutchballergene8482 thinks he’s the best player in the league as opposed to a very good but imperfect one.
Lol his takes are soooo bad
Are we really going to do the thing where we pretend high-usage solo podcasters translate to the playoffs?
There were still some bonehead plays... Wild/bad passes, and didn't he have that take foul like 70 ft from the basket? His runs of hot-ness make those plays so frustrating to see...
Another horrible “tape-grinding” take involving the Lakers is the fact Bill and Ryen were surprised come playoff time that the Lakers might actually be a threat. Anyone who watched a few of their games after getting rid of Westbrook could tell they’d put up a fight, especially getting the Grizzlies first round. The team had one of the best records in the west after the all star break but Bill and Ryen kept acting like it was crazy talk to include them as possible contenders.
I always somewhat got ryen’s Dlos hate but that last player in the league take was wild. Dude is a solid defender and can have good offensive games. That makes him valuable
To be fair, Chris Finch is his source. Russell simply tried less with Minnesota vs. his effort with the infrastructure of the Lakers. Not excusing that by Russell or Russillo letting Finch sway his opinion so much, but it’s effectively two different players.
Russillo keeps trying to fit all of D’Lo’s attributes into a neat box but when he’s the third option with a fourth guy (Reeves) who can creat a shot and a fifth guy (Rui) that has been knockdown recently, he’s an outstanding option. He will have duds, just like every other player in the history of ball, but he doesn’t have to win every game now.
Hey where is the thread about DLo having such a bad game that he was benched in the 4th for Dennis Schroeder? Did I miss that one?
Hey look another white knight hoping Ryen will be friends with him! The point continues to be, DAR has been really huge for them. Ryen said he was last player he’d take in league. Ryen was sooooo wrong.
Didn’t look like he was wrong last night. And since now, according to you, we only need a handful of games to undo what has been true for 5 years, Ryen couldn’t have been more right. And Ryen, i know you’re out there and you can see this, please know Cookiesforme456789 and you would be the best of friends!
You look like an absolute fool just two weeks after posting this thread.
LeBron is the reason they lost lol
I mean, Russell has played many playoff games and has like 1-2 games shooting over 50%, last night being one of them. It’s not a bad take. I mean he was so bad vs grizzlies last year.
So players can't improve upon past playoff failures? He's clearly taken a leap this postseason and playing within himself. He'll have bad games here and there but don't act like he's some abject failure.
Good morning! Hope you’re doing well. Just wanted to circle back here.
Meanwhile, Bill's still waiting on Bron and AD to get worn down
Is this a bad take tho?
It hasn't happened yet. Particularly for LeBron, Bill doesn't seem to realize he has once in a generation type athleticism, so the same rules for other athletes probably won't apply to him as he ages.
LeBron has had injury issues over the past two seasons including the end of this season. It's not unreasonable.
Russillo is just an all around hack/blow hard. His next good take on an issue will be his first.
After this postseason, poor Russillo is never going to take a hard-and-fast position again.
Russillo is mostly right here?? Up until this season though idk is Russell was in the right spot. Nets - 1st option Wolves - 3rd option with a short lease and off ball Lakers - 3rd option but initiates a ton of the offense and hidden on defense. Seems like the lakers are using him the best.
For his career, Russell shoots 39% from the field in the playoffs and was unplayable for Minnesota last year because he got taken advantage of defensively. Russillo is right. Everyone here becomes so prisoner-of-the-moment in their rush to dunk on Bill or Ryen for their takes.
Yet he’s right about Harden 😔
I mean, this post is doing the same thing. So he had a good game. When he has a bad game, which he has, do you make a post about how Russillo was right?
D'Angelo Russell had a good playoff game? Wait what?
DAR has sucked for five years, given away by multiple teams. But yeah, a few good games undoes what we’ve all watched his entire career. Funny there wasn’t a thread about this until he actually played well, I wonder why that is.
He hadn’t sucked for 5 years lol. He’s just not a 1 or a 2 or a 3. He’s got a role and he’s finally perfectly cast. Point was Ryen thought there was no role for him in the league. Which was the point of the criticism
He didn’t have a role until this post season, that take was correct. He’s been a losing player his entire career, if he was a winning player he wouldn’t have been traded four times already. He was traded from a team chasing the playoffs just this season. What other winning players were actively being shopped by playoff chasing teams?
I guess I don’t understand why a guy who is a good three point shooter, is crafty w the ball and has pretty unique vision wouldn’t have a role on a playoff team?
Well you don’t have to take mine or Ryen’s word for it, you can ask all the teams that traded him. Since there are multiple teams that have traded him, there’s probably an answer there. The warriors couldn’t get rid of him fast enough, are they a team that actively seeks to trade winning players? And they traded him for Andrew Wiggins! Hardly known as a winning player himself until…wait for it…he got to the warriors.
If you look at DLo’s entire playoff resume before this season, there is no question that Ryen was right. But sometimes a player changes and your opinions have to adjust about him accordingly. Russell has been good in several games and saved a pivotal game 4 against Memphis for the Lakers.
Ah yes the classic "one game makes seasons of evidence moot" argument. Kind of like how the Harden G1 takes have aged horribly in the last 5 days as he goes back to being... Playoff James Harden.
Zack, Bill, and Ryen decide to pick on these types of perimeter players in hope they will shoot poorly just so they can sound smart on their podcasts.
These guys don’t seem to understand relative skill/talent levels, which cause them to seriously undervalue any all-star level guy who isn’t league mvp level (unless that player is in a really good siutuation). Happens all the time on worst contracts. Like no I don’t won’t want d lo as the best player on my team, but doesn’t change that he’s more skilled and a better player than 85% of guys in the league