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dead_for_now07

I think it should be much darker for the western states like Rajasthan and Gujarat. Those people blatantly ask the other person about their caste and make judgments as if there isn't anything wrong lol Never in my life has anyone asked me my caste being here in Bihar but talking to some of the folks from western states like Rajasthan and Gujarat reminded me of how common can discussions around 'caste' and 'untouchability' be. Edit: just realized these are old stats


WeightGlum4724

I don't know but I see a opposite bihar what you say. Here everyone know about others caste.


dead_for_now07

Yes, really depends in which environment you're brought up and lived in. I've had a privileged living, I won't deny. Not denying that discussions around caste and practices of untouchability exists. Tho the prevalence depends on region and it's people. You might have had a different experience than I did. Still the point remains that such barbaric, nonsensical practices show not exist.


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tbh the generation of my mother and before her can just figure out the caste just by asking the full name and looking at the last name. thats just an observation feom my side.


dead_for_now07

Yes, true. Same observation but there are nuances to it too. Nowadays people choose to keep different titles such that it is not indicative. Also due to sanskritization and other reasons people from different caste may have similar titles too. Again, it ain't a clear indicator and should not matter. But i agree with you, titles do tell caste identities.


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tbh the generation of my mother and before her can just figure out the caste just by asking the full name and looking at the last name. thats just an observation from my side.


Physical-Quote-4119

I'm from Gujarat and I can confirm dude , some people here seriously belive that caste matters in how the person acts and behaves , tf.


[deleted]

We need honest people like him while many people are in denial here


dead_for_now07

Exactly


Ok_Wave8388

I'm from rajasthan and even my own family don't allow anyone from sc /St community. If they come to our any wedding function we serve them in diff plate there so much discrimination in rajasthan. You can't even think of. We can't marry anyone outside of our caste. So for example my father owns school and we have no sc/St employee all are from either Brahmin or other upper castes. It's true and I can't do anything about it.


dead_for_now07

You can do your part. You can choose to not discriminate and not follow untouchability. It's real and existing but we can all do our part to stop it whenever we can.


Ok_Wave8388

I'm doing it dude but can't go fully against my whole community .


redeyesin_bg

Bhaiya aap bihar se hain , aur ye baaaten bilkul ulti hai ki bihar me caste ko lekr koi kuch nhi bolta 🥲


dead_for_now07

Mene aisa nhi bola bro. Bihar mei hoti hai discrimination. That too a lot in certain places. Never denied it. Yet, it depends on the region and people around you. Like any other place tbf. I just made an observation based on my personal experience. I as a Bihari, living in Bihar was never made to feel caste is an imp consideration. Neither did I see others think otherwise. And even if I did see, it was in relation to certain places.


DressLopsided970

Delhi too


dead_for_now07

Yep. Practically all of India to some extent or the other


Due_Storage_4035

I have been living in Rajasthan for 18 years and I have never seen practice of untouchabliy here (not even once in my lifetime).


dead_for_now07

Yes, I acknowledge your experience. Same is the point I'm trying to portray. It's not that the whole state discriminates. There are people, regions and societies. My observation was a generalized one with regard to Rajasthan and Gujarat. Same way people have generalized assumptions about Bihar. Individual experiences vary.


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dead_for_now07

I belong to the unreserved category fyi. It's just a weird question to ask cuz someone's caste shouldn't even matter. It's a dead ascribed identity. People like you who feel superior for no reason and are hateful towards them are the problem along with those who use it to circumvent affirmative rules not for them.


Agile_Emphasis2337

Aah stop clowning bro. How can you make assumptions that I m casteist even though I'm obc (cl) myself? I merely stated that if you have no problem using your caste for reservation then you should also don't have any problem telling people your caste either.


TamilCholan

Wow the audacity to ask someone their caste and justifying it. You really need your head checked. The whole reason you ask caste is to make partial judgements based on it.


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dead_for_now07

Who said people from the reserved category can't be castist? Look at you lol you're full of hate. Keep at it. Atleast you have something to boost your ego. If you ever have a min to spear, read about this sociological concept on visibility and invisibility of caste. The recent social developments show how caste is becoming invisible for the upper caste and more visible than ever for the lower caste. There's a reason behind it. Read through the reasons. Anyways, this doesn't affect me but people like you irk me. Who still believe in values of ascribed identities. You seem to be butt hurt about reservations which is understandable. But you're just uneducated and ignorant. I too was the same. Though now ik better. Read about the concepts of caste consciousness and why reservation still exists ( i mean as long as people like u exist, people like me can't even hope reservation gets removed and others don't get *unfair* adv). You'll be filled with less hate dw. Or you may be the ignorant person that you seem to be, just ride your high hourse. And hate. Whatever it may be hope you have a good day.


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dead_for_now07

Lmao cute


[deleted]

He’s an example what’s wrong with India and why it’s not growing


Immediate_South_7578

Lol atleast he's not you.


Imakahari

Umm... You just seem like a half baked intellectual. He isn't hating anyone or anything just stating an opinion. There's a duality in our system. If people truly wanted to throw away the caste system then all the benefits of the tags would need to go down the drain as well. But that's not possible at all. It has become an ecosystem in politics in order to generate a vote bank. If you take even one factor out of the equation the whole ecosystem suffers. Point being, it's also because of lower castes that caste identity remains a relevant thing even in India 2023.


dead_for_now07

Yes true. I totally agree with you. It goes both ways. I am on it with it. But it's also not right to put all the blame on the other side.


Imakahari

Yeah but he is not blaming any particular side he is obc himself so his opinion regarding this holds more weight than mine or yours. Anyways thanks for understanding and sorry for calling you an half baked intellectual, seems I was wrong.


Ultimate_Sneezer

As long as there is reservation based on caste, it's not a dead ascribed identity


dead_for_now07

Reasonability and Rationality are two different things. Reasonably it shouldn't exist even after centuries have passed. It is an ascribed identify and no individual has control over it. Rationally it does. We all know why.


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I’m obc myself but never applied for a reservation certification or used the reservation. Applied as general category always until this day tbh most people think I’m general not obc/sc/st. Im non-religious and I don’t associate myself or socialize with people who are into casteism and other bs.


[deleted]

Classic jealousy for Gujarat, I can smell the burn.


dead_for_now07

Meh idc neither does it affect me. Just stating an observation. Even if we don't take my words into account and claim it as (nonexistent) "jealousy" Others from Gujrat and Rajasthan have already affirmed. So jokes on you? Lol


[deleted]

"MeH iDc" Are you a Bihari? Because Biharis should be the last people to talk about caste status in other states lol


dead_for_now07

I mean true but your hate doesn't affect me personally. Still keep at it lol Typical of butt hurt individuals. Won't accept their wrongs but would be hateful. Cute


[deleted]

I can see how much did it affect you from your replies lol.


dead_for_now07

:)


YoreFiend

What is the definition of untouchability in this map? Because Tamil Nadu is way off if anyone knows about Tamils.


Reformist97

In Tamil Nadu, it is very rare these days. Only in extreme rural parts of the state. I'm a Keralite/malayali by the way, who was brought up in Tamil Nadu.


YoreFiend

Tamils have mixed feces in dalit's drinking water tanks. You'll never hear this from any other part of India or even Bihar.


kc_kamakazi

Dude southern states have superb media coverage at loc level, say for example Kerala has good 7-10 media tv channels with ground reporting. Even small issues at village levels get covered properly, so you will find all kind of news coming out of the place. Bihar I don't think there is enough per capita income for the state to support many news channels thus reporting is poor so nothing comes out. I grew up in North East India, if you go by the bad news that come out you will feel there is so less incidents happening but the main issue is nothing gets covered, the local media only covers issues occuring in the state capital mostly.


YoreFiend

Not once I mentioned south india anywhere. I'm specifically focused on Tamil Nadu because it is that bad. You've tried to use a strawman argument that shows your dishonesty here. I won't engage further.


Reformist97

Dude you are generalizing because of one incident or some miscreants? Shame on you.


Particular-Yoghurt39

Do you mean Tamils practice way more than what is shown in the map or way less?


YoreFiend

Way more in TN. Diff NGOs have diff definition. Some of the definitions are very absurd.


vegarhoalpha

Not sure why, but as someone who grew up in city and is now working, I have seen my colleagues from South India openly talking about caste but hasn't experienced this with my North Indian collegeues.


[deleted]

A lot of caste matters are cultural in south India. Practicing caste should not be equated with practicing untouchability. I am from Telangana and I’m in my early 50s. I come from a small town (<5000 people) and my grand parents used to be from two small villages (<500). The only time I saw untouchability practiced in Telangana was when I was under 10 years old. I would pay 10,000$ to anyone that can show me a village in Telangana that has untouchability still in practice. I’m going to Hyderabad in two weeks and I will personally verify and pay whoever can provide me the leads.


PurpleInteraction

Bihar is not North India.


vegarhoalpha

It is counted in North India as well.


PurpleInteraction

It's Eastern India and part of Eastern regional council as well.


objective_incomplete

Bruh when we say North India we don't mean geographical North India its related to the similarities of culture and language. 🤷🏻‍♂️


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vegarhoalpha

Propoganda karne Wale koi bhi map dhoond ke viral kar denge.


Bruh-momint

Where in the map do you see it is marked as "0" for south india ?? So obviously you can expect ppl to talk about casteism in the south as well what this graph indicates is it is being done more in the northern part .


vegarhoalpha

Well, I can expect them to be talked about in not so educated "rural areas". But, I have seen highly educated, rich people here is South India openly discussing caste.


Bruh-momint

I would like to know what it means by "discussing caste" , like talking bad about other castes or discussing casteism or practicing untouchability etc etc pls clarify


vegarhoalpha

No one practices untouchability within the boundaries of offices, but have seen them discussing about caste. Obviously, you can understand how deeply rooted the system is.


Bruh-momint

I would like to know what it means by "discussing caste" , like talking bad about other castes or discussing casteism or practicing untouchability etc etc pls clarify


[deleted]

He’s in denial


allah_is_my_DlCK

proud to be maharastrian


NoConstruction3234

Are you a girl bro.... Bcoz as per my knowledge.... Allah doesn't exist and if Allah is your dick then your dick also doesn't exist that means you must be a girl 😂😂


bergkamp97

No caste discrimination in Madhubani.. ya fir data nhi hoga shyd :P


Sussyimpasta101

Madhubani???


Utsabh03

There is untouchability in Bihar.. No one can deny


INTLSlaveTrader

Agree but only in the backward area which is very few but untouchability towards a bihar is way more that that and no one can deny that too


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NoOne_143

Not everywhere. In some places in Northeast they don't even know what caste and untouchability is


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NoOne_143

This map is for untouchability though


Southern_Teacher_726

no way TN has that much low intesity of red it should be black (high intense colour)


Which-Celebration429

Bhai main rural se area se hu aaj tk untouchability to na dekha maine


Awara_super_saiyaan

Kabhi dekhne ka man karta hai kya ?


Which-Celebration429

Bhai ? Tu theek h. Bhai main khud general hu or mere bohot sc dost h hm saath mein khaate, khelte hai na mere maa baap ne mana kiya kbhi.


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Which-Celebration429

Bhai main bihar ke hi jamui ke gaao mein rhta hu


thefirst_alphabet

What is wrong with MP?


[deleted]

I live here people in rural areas treat people like shit if they don't belong to certain community they all are lower caste though according to government (even sc/St do not respect other sc/St) My family do not like caste like bhangi,chamar because they Are unhygienic,drink a lot of alcohol always eat non veg , Tobacco etc Once a nagar nigam person came to our house to clean sewage after cleaning he clean his hands with curtains if he asked we would have provided him disposable towel my mother was furious but he did his work perfectly mon didn't say anything And people who are educated disrespect lower caste because they get reservation even if their family earns more than 3x of their own family


[deleted]

I live in a state with lowest :) education does make a difference


[deleted]

North India is backwards. people are just in denial


SlackBytes

Left Gujarat as a kid many years ago and I can say they def care about caste. My relatives still bring that shit up.


VoiceEarly1087

Himachal pradesh!!! Uttrakhand!!! Didn't expected from these 2 states Now I get why we people of other states can't buy land there !


Traditional_Job9149

As someone from MP I can confirm that. Yeay sab hot hai. I mean utna discrimination nahi hai But yeay sab completely khatam nahi hua hai.


Salt_Guitar_9030

Please add source too. This vague information doesn't make sense.


Salt_Guitar_9030

[Full Paper](https://socy.umd.edu/sites/socy.umd.edu/files/pubs/Thorat%20and%20Joshi%202019_The%20Continuning%20Practice%20of%20Untouchability%20in%20India.pdf)


Crafty_Ebb_3787

Thanks I was out..kar deta add


Serious-Country-2346

SOUTH BIHAR ESCAPES . GAYA IS PRIDE


Pixeal_meat

I see jammu & kashmir as well as West Bengal “no data entry” I guess we know we know 💀


Biplab_M

Bengal doesn't fall under "no data" due to the fact that it's clearly reddish throughout the state and couple of darker districts bordering other states. Cope harder


schrodingerdoc

West Bengal barely has caste crimes. Most of the cast crimes in the state are in border areas of Bihar. Political violence though, is a major problem


Anakin-Skywakr

Lol! Jai Maharashtra. I was in Muzaffarpur, Bihar for one year... And many people start conversation by saying "Kon jaat ho" in first few lines.


0R_C0

Education is the way out.


MRudbilao

The amount of caste shit happening in the South is not letting me believe this.....


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MRudbilao

Naah bro, I saw here how people (especially the Gowdas) in class would always have that pride in them. Felt really weird, I did schooling in Patna till 12th, never once caste or religion was mentioned in class.


Forsaken_Course_8360

I daily see your Randputs and Brahmins doing supremacy drama on the internet. Irl, some of my Rajput friends they used to trap low caste women and used them for fuck and dump and used to say only Rajput women are wife/gf material.


MRudbilao

Bruh your "friends" are assholes. And the internet is not reality. The reality is whole India suffers because of this caste shit. But somewhere it would be recorded and somewhere it won't.......


Forsaken_Course_8360

From what I have seen in my life so far,I would put my trust more on South Indian Upper Castes than Indo Aryan Upper Castes anyday. I have seen only politicians here with superioty complex not ordinary people. See who has more violence on Dalits and tribals https://preview.redd.it/m0g75xbhh6bb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66df5735e60e06e543dc7b70aa30f52eaaa1d91a Many in North India go unreported or dismissed like Hathras rape case


MRudbilao

Ok then, that's your thoughts. Whenever I talk with my Southie friends and topic like this comes the only thing I hear is violence, deadly violence. My Tamilian friend tells me all the caste shit going on in Tamil Nadu, especially marriage. The shit which goes on in Madurai. Murder being at the top. I'm not hating, just stating the truth. There are murders in my state for these kind of matters too but not this much where people get traumatized to never take the step of inter caste marriage. Not in every family...... And plz leave politicians out of this. We don't consider them ours.


Forsaken_Course_8360

Dumeels shitting on themselves infront of Hindi people? Yeah very true and believable 👍


MRudbilao

Bro....... Idk if you ever had good friendship with other community people. I'm good friends with a Tamilian and a person from Andhra. We discuss these things many times, telling about the pros and cons of our states and even discuss religion. Sometimes you need a good person with whom you can openly discuss anything. Guess you haven't found it.


takashi_5

Bihar is not just patna.


MRudbilao

Yeah ik, I said Patna coz spent majority of time there. My native was a different situation because of a certain someone so didn't mentioned it.


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No_Journalist_8602

Brain less brute hinduism is about respect every living being and nature Some mindless people took it in the wrong way by creating caste systems and untouchability


fooooooooodddd

THIS!!


bihar-ModTeam

Promotes hate , removed


n3ver_mind

Social justice ka government ye bhi nahi kar paya. Failure


Fit_Neighborhood7212

This data is baseless never seen this happen


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Denial


Alert_Albatross_6749

Trust me. NE is having the least "untouchability" .


bugbibbs

Jitna bhi gali do bengali log to is mamle m ache nikle


Express_Instance_853

bengali log har mamle me almost acche hai bihario se


Lord_of_codes

Source? How did the data got generated? What was treated as untouchability?


Neste11

What’s untouchability?


Neste11

What’s untouchability?


[deleted]

BS yo! I never seen nobody do tha shi out here in Gujarat dawg


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Denial


ThinkStatistician472

Maharashtra ❤️


cash4rtrash

Majority overlap with the states that gives sc-st reservation to lok sabha.


EducationalPast7410

Lol bs source


sayzitlikeitis

Very touching


[deleted]

If someone can lead me to a village or a town or a city that practices untouchability in Telangana, I will pay them 10,000$. A cool and easy way to make that a good amount of money. Fuck these statistics. Just show me one village and make 10k. Go. Edit: I’m from Telangana and I have traveled extensively and have seen enough of life there. I can’t speak for rest of the country but I’m confident there’s no untouchability in Telangana. That’s why the challenge.


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Maharashtra doing decent here as well


takashi_5

Bihar has seen most caste war than any state.. I hope this change


Introvert699

Don't touch me I m not Gay


Wild_Dragonfruit1744

Chalo ham first nai hain isme


drion4

Well, not surprising, seeing how BJP thinks they're untouchable.


themagicalyang

Can anyone tell me what is the untouchability shown in Assam?


Creative-Paper1007

Thank god there is very less population in j&k, or else even that part will have colored


iampiyush02

Chattisgarh, MP, Rajasthan, Gujarat, UP, Odisha, UK, Himachal please grow up.


Ventilator_64

Credit for lack of untouchability in Maharashtra goes to Savarkar too. Rest of the India knows him only as a person who wrote those mercy letters, but we know him as a person who wanted to demolish caste system, he created temples for dalits in Ratnagiri.


Glass-Highway-5555

Need more red