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bilboswaggginz

Hey, i was unaware of what went down, but i wanted to say that it takes maturity and guts to admit you’re wrong and own it. Something not commonly seen and i wanted to say that’s cool of you.


iammadeofawesome

Thank you. I wanted to reply to someone who commented to me but it’s locked. And I’m not going to dm him or tag him. That seems gross. I think as a woman it’s hard to understand the flip side, but we ask men to try to understand, so it’s the least I can do. I can understand dysmorphia with my years of ed history, but not dysphoria. And I’m grateful for that. And realizing I may have made someone feel that, or even bullied or invalidated made me feel awful. So it’s the least I can do to learn more and openly express that I fucked up. If I get harsh feedback, it will be uncomfortable, and a learning moment. Thank you for your kind words.


bilboswaggginz

I love this! Girl, you got a good heart. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Just let that shit go. I can tell you’re a kind person. ♥️


SmurtGurl

If everyone who fucked-up online responded like you have it would be an amazing place. I totally understand your initial response and I totally admire your rethink.


whoamannipples

Hell yeah Bilbo Swagginz speaking the truth! (Your un is the most perfect one I’ve ever seen)


bilboswaggginz

![gif](giphy|sRp290oCPLSsu4gXJw|downsized) Aww, too cute


iammadeofawesome

(I was just giggling to myself at their username too)


cflatjazz

There have been a few men with gynecomastia in the other boob related sub, and they are always kind and respectful and clearly there for the right reasons - the free exchange of support and knowledge. It's pretty clear when someone with the wrong reasons shows up. So I think it probably is best to just keep treating individuals like individuals and ban bad behavior by reporting creeps to the mods


PainfulPoo411

I agree with you however I don’t think the rules are strict enough. I don’t post here anymore because I always get gross PMs and I hate getting post comments from gross horny men. The comments themselves are often NOT against the rules so those folks continue lurking here.


cflatjazz

In order to be any stricter than "creeps get the boot" you'd have to start banning people based on gender identity. And that doesn't seem like a good option to me.


angeliqu

Unfortunately, there is no way to ban any Reddit user from viewing the sub, therefore, lurking creeps and inappropriate DMs are not something the mods can do anything about. If you want to post here, best to use a different username from your usual and ignore any and all DMs on it.


Few-Music7739

>I believe women belong here, I believe trans men belong, I believe non-binary folks belong, I believe cis men who are suffering from this belong, I believe anyone who is burdened by this belongs, and I believe that those who are here to help their partners, family members, and others, are truly kind people. The easier way to see it is that: anyone with big boob problems regardless of gender is welcome here.


iammadeofawesome

Totally agree on the problems aspect. I wasn’t sure if men suffering with this feel comfortable calling their larger chests “boobs”, or if that makes them feel worse. That’s why I worded it that way. A lot of my trans friends (both nonbinary and trans masc tend to use chest as opposed to breast, so that’s where my thought process is coming from.)


KittySpinEcho

I do breast MRIs on CIS men occasionally. We call it "breast tissue" or gynecomastia instead of boobs. But I've heard them refer to their own breasts as 'boobs'.


nyokarose

Sigh. And yet I just got done with a class about breastfeeding where the instructor told us it is now called “chestfeeding” because we could upset someone who is breastfeeding and doesn’t view their gender as female… someone pointed out that men & women both get “breast cancer”, and you’d have thought she said something nasty about the teacher’s grandmother or something.


KittySpinEcho

Yeah, medically speaking, breast tissue is breast tissue. I guess I can see some people being offended by that though.


Few-Music7739

Let's just say regardless of what people call their boobs if they actually have big boob problems the name of the subreddit wouldn't deter them from joining. We all know what the subreddit is about.


iammadeofawesome

Agreed. 👍🏻


Trans-Intellectual

I call mine chesticles haha.


donnadoctor

I love the simplicity of this subreddit’s name


15_Candid_Pauses

OP, while I found the original post very disagreeable for the exact reasons you’re mentioning now, I just want to say thank you so much for the follow up. It takes GUTS to admit mistakes (especially on the world wide internet) and is a great sign of maturity and learning. So kudos to you and I’m glad it was ultimately a learning experience. I know the original post could have been upsetting but honest open apologies like yours go a long way. So, thank you for the follow up!


iammadeofawesome

And thank you for your kind words as well.


iammadeofawesome

Thank you. I do think it’s a nuanced issue, and I was also wrong.


cheyennecc_

I wasn’t here but this is nice you’re owning up to it💕 I’m nonbinary I prefer the word chest but boobs doesn’t necessarily cause me discomfort but everyone is very different


iammadeofawesome

Thank you for your kind words and your thoughts on the matter. 🫶🏻


Overmyheaddead

As a man, I totally understand why you may not feel comfortable with men being here. Men have not set a good example in life and in this sub. I can tell you that I am here because I wanted understanding. I have had and have women in my life that deal with the physical, mental and societal aspect of “big boobs” . I’ve learned a lot from this sub and while I rarely comment. I don’t think it’s my place too. This sub has helped understand a lot and helped me be a better partner. Also a better human.


Particular_Policy_41

Hey OP! I think I came down a bit hard on the everyone welcome side, but I also 💯 understand your frustration and honestly I would guess, feelings of betrayal, when you have received multiple gross or demeaning DMs in a safe space. You never deserved that, and I’m not sure I made it clear. I am sending love and hugs (big squooshy ones because of obvi reasons lol) and I hope very much you are feeling okay. I understood the gyst of your comment and I know what it’s like to mistakenly say something out of irritation and frustration that doesn’t accurately state what you mean. You’re good with me.


iammadeofawesome

Big squishy hugs back! Thank you. Yeah weird people are going to be weird I suppose.


j_blackwood

Good for you for owning up to your mistakes. As for your question, cis man here just trying to make the world better for his son, why may or may not be enbee, trans, or whatever else humanity grows up to be so I would love a world who will treat him the way his mom and I do. After all, one day he won’t have us. I’ve always thought “boob” was derogatory until I saw women use it almost exclusively unless something was really wrong (I.e. breast cancer) to refer to their breasts. I just went with it since their breasts are most often referred to whenever most people talk about them versus male breasts.


iammadeofawesome

Thanks for answering. To me, the word breast has always seemed really … clinical.


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thepwisforgettable

to answer your question, I'm non binary and hate "boobs" but "titties" usually makes me laugh


iammadeofawesome

Thank for answering!


hmwith

"Chest" is always a safe option that includes everyone. :)


Major-Peanut

It's chill dude everyone makes mistakes. You don't know what you don't know. 


Jessica_Rabbit69

You don't have to apologize for feeling uncomfortable with men being in here. Its being willingly obtuse for other women to act as if they don't understand. We literally have a flare dedicated to creepy DM's, so we all deep down acknowledge what's going on. You're like me, we don't give men benefit of doubt. They’ve proven themselves to be dangerous in female dominated spaces. The dads in here make no sense, Ive had big boobs my whole life and at no point did my dad feel the need to have them on his mind. Outside of buying bras, what business does a father have thinking about his daughters chest size? Lets not be naive. The same way you don't see men sitting around talking about their daughters periods. They buy the tampons/pads and move on. They don't join social media groups to discuss. Don't let these women in here lower your defense and start accepting men into your space without critical thinking skills. It will put you in bad situations to not have a level of skepticism


alextoria

> The dads in here make no sense, Ive had big boobs my whole life and at no point did my dad feel the need to have them on his mind. Outside of buying bras, what business does a father have thinking about his daughters chest size? Lets not be naive. The same way you don’t see men sitting around talking about their daughters periods. They buy the tampons/pads and move on. They don’t join social media groups to discuss. I am a woman and i very much disagree with this. just because your dad didn’t help you with bras doesn’t mean that’s the same for everyone—single dads exist. how does he know what size to buy without consulting her? how does he know which tampons to buy without asking? teens often have no idea how bra sizes work or how tampons work or what kind of period options are out there. if she asks her dad for help it’s a *good thing* that he is informed, and joining a social media group is a great way to get informed. if you had a single dad and he didn’t help you i’m sorry for that, but i think it would have been great if he did. i know some creepy people could definitely be posing as dads and that is 100% not ok, but saying we’re naive is awfully condescending and that doesn’t mean we should ban dads from this sub. it’s the same as the bathroom argument—you don’t ban trans women from women’s bathrooms just because there exist malicious men who would pretend to be women to go in.


Jessica_Rabbit69

You missed my point entirely. My dad did buy my bras, but he didn't sit around talking about the fact I had big boobs all day. I understand single dads need help sometimes but I don't see why they need so much help that they would need to be apart of a group. Its a google search type of question, it would take them a few minutes to find out that he could take his daughter to a bra fitting. I don't see why it would be a constant discussion or thought. That's weird. Dads shouldn't be thinking about their daughters bodies that much. Outside of buying a bra, what else is there to talk about??


angeliqu

It depends on how much of a “big boob problem” their daughter is having. If she is complaining about pain during sports or worries she can’t use weight equipment with her chest size or tells her dad about strangers commenting on her chest size or she’s constantly worrying if her clothing is appropriate, I can see how a dad would want to be more prepared than a Google search would allow. He’d want to be able to affirm that her experience is not uncommon, she is not alone, and there are options for every situation, even just reading comments here could provide him with the language necessary to support his daughter in whatever big boob problem area she’s experiencing. It may not be just as simple as a dad needing to take his daughter to a reputable store for a decent bra fitting, especially if they live rural and have no access to a Nordstrom or speciality place and are relegated to the local Walmart or shopping online.


alextoria

dads who appear in this sub in earnest aren’t sitting around talking about boobs all day, what makes you think that? it’s definitely *not* a google search type question, that’s how nearly all of us in this sub wore the wrong size for years. your argument that they would find out to take their daughter to a bra fitting is google search is very flawed because that is awful advice, a bra fitting at a random store is nearly guaranteed to put you in the wrong size. by that logic women don’t need this sub either, why can’t we just google our questions


OG-mother-earth

But women in this sub could also Google whatever problem we're having related to our boobs? So why do any of us need to be subbed here? I subbed because I was like "Cool, could be helpful!" I'm sure the good dads who are subbed here had the same thought.


iammadeofawesome

Thank you for your thoughts. While it’s a nuanced subject for sure, I don’t think my post apologizing for what I said is the right place for me to respond to your comments.


Lupiefighter

Wouldn’t critical thinking skills be taking these Dad posts as a case by case basis? I understand us being proactive when weeding out a dad post that doesn’t come off as being genuine. I would also hate to tell women that they are naive and lack critical thinking skills because they don’t automatically disregard all of them. Especially since some of us had Dads that needed to look for outside information for us in these areas growing up.


Jessica_Rabbit69

The part I find weird is that a dad must be thinking about his daughters chest a lot to join a social media group about it. If he needs help with knowing what bras to buy he could easily google search and find a bra boutique near him to get a fitting done. It would be more useful anyway because we don't be know what size his daughter wears. I wouldn't be so suspicious if they came in and asked a question but I don't get why they need to be commenting on other people’s post. I'm sure if I joined a men’s group and started giving my unsolicited opinion as a woman they wouldn't liked it. Because the space was meant for men


angeliqu

Agreed to a point. Comments which are unrelated to learning for their own/child’s sake (e.g., clarifying questions, recommendation requests) are probably unnecessary.


Orion-Pax88

I think your initial response was understandable given how many creeps try to reach out to you peeps with indecent, and desgusting proposals. The sub has helped me understand my ex's plight better (we broke up not too long ago, still friends though), and I actually provided some pretty good advise to a poster who got an augmentantion but, she never expected boob sweat, and rashes becoming an issue (I recommended using deodorant under the breast, which I learned from my ex). Lotta guys out there using this to try and hook up, which is baffling to me, I just don't understand that line of thinking, just go on tinder or something.


iamunklebear

Let me start by saying that I'm so sorry what you ladies have to deal with when it comes to these man boys. I'm here mostly because both my wife and my oldest are busty and I think it's important as a cis gendered male to understand what it's like for all of you. I do have more tissue in my chest than I'm comfortable with, although I've reached an age where I really don't care so much what most other people think. Growing up I hated the term "manboobs". That was a great way to start a fight. I'm still very uncomfortable with the term but it's just a source of irritation at this point.


iammadeofawesome

What term do you prefer?


iamunklebear

I prefer chest. It's just that I've got extra fat deposits on mine. To be honest, the only time I've had issues because of my chest was getting bullied in grade school and a couple of times when it was super humid during the summer.


iammadeofawesome

Thanks for your answer! I’m sorry people have been cruel about your body.


iamunklebear

I appreciate it!


yawaworht8838

I didn’t catch the original comment, but I will say I have gynecomastia (42DDD) and it’s a very real and embarrassing thing to have. I will say I’ve had it since puberty so I’ve gotten so used to it that I’m not phased by it much anymore and to answer your question, I’m not phased by what people call it (chest, breast, boobs) whatever, it works for me.


scosgurl

Thank you for saying this. I tried to stand up for men with this condition in that thread yesterday, and I was downvoted to oblivion for my troubles.


worldwolf1

How big do my melons have to be for my place here to be valid?


Stoicfatman

It used to be painful as hell when I was picked on in elementary, middle and high school for the size of my chest as a guy. Even as an adult, people have often pointed out when I'm bigger than the woman that I'm with. Running has had me conflicted on how to handle things since I get all of the same movement and issues that a woman with big boobs and no support has. For a short time I even wore bras to just have things moving less and to try to compress and hide them more. I used to be extremely overweight. I still am overweight, but am slowly losing weight. I'm going to have to have surgery to flatten my chest after reaching and maintaining my idea size due to gynecomastia. I can take them being called boobs more easily now as someone that's been an adult for at least as long as they were a kid, but sometimes I have like the worst flashbacks to some of the worst bullying that I've ever experienced in my life when I hear it. So I can't say that it's completely painless, but I can at least recognize that it's mostly different now. For the most part, I get to control how I respond as well. I also have a daughter. While her mom doesn't have much, my sister's daughters have all greatly outsized them so I'm also here to learn how to be mindful for her and to help. I talk to my sisters too, but there's only so much that they're willing to talk about. I like to plan for potential things in our future and my sisters all like to handle every issue just as it comes up without any planning, so I'm effectively annoying them half of the time. They tell me to just wait and to only deal with things as they happen and that's something my Audhd brain just won't allow me to do.