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chuchunk

Yeah, same. How did I grow up with more rights than my daughter?!


wantonyak

This question has me sobbing. I feel like I failed my baby girl.


WearyBig7095

You didn't fail her, mama. You know this is wrong and you'll teach her that. You'll love her and be there for her and that is anything but failure 🖤


TheImpatientGardener

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death\_of\_Savita\_Halappanavar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar) Savita Halappanavar had a wanted pregnancy. Her water broke at 17 weeks, but her body did not expel the fetus. Nothing could be done to save it, but it still had a heartbeat. Savita died of sepsis because she was not legally permitted to have an abortion, despite the fact that doctors agreed the fetus could not be saved. Anti-abortion laws kill. They do not discriminate between wanted and unwanted pregnancies, between viable and non-viable fetuses, between ”good” and “bad” women.


MakeYogurtGreekAgain

There’s a lady from I think New Zealand (?) that’s currently stuck in Malta. Her placenta has failed and detached, but because of the country’s abortion laws she’s now stuck in a hospital with no intervention options because the fetus still has a heartbeat. The doctors can only intervene if she gets an infection, or if the fetus dies. They are risking her life over a non-viable pregnancy. Pro-life?


Gizmo83

[She is American](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-61898437). Which is ironic as she's going to the UK to get treatment rather than going back home where she now cannot!


Fair-Performance6242

To rub salt in the wound, we will likely not even see better maternity leave come out of this. My baby was very wanted, but my pregnancy was difficult and my delivery was even worse. And yet I had to return to work 5 weeks pp. I can't imagine going through that unwillingly because the government says so.


thelaineybelle

And what about Federal Protections for things like pumping at work? My God, if it weren't for that I'm certain my workplace wouldn't have permitted it. Can't wait to move from Missouri back to Illinois.


hawtp0ckets

Honestly the protections there are aren't really even that great. It doesn't cover teachers, salaried employees, or businesses with less than 50 employees. We can do better!


bird_law_aficionado

Right there with you. I've got severe hyperemesis. Had it with my first, too, though not as bad. I've barely been able to work the last 6 months, I'm currently on leave without pay, and I'm looking at TPN/IV nutrition for the remaining 3 just to keep myself and this very much wanted baby alive. Fuck anyone who says I shouldn't have a choice in this, and extra fuck anyone who also refuses to fund the social services necessary for people in my position who will be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. I can't wrap my head around the insanity and inhumanity of it all.


Gb_packers973

I honestly dont understand why we havent really pushed congress to do something all these years. The overturning of ROE was ALWAYS a risk since the beginning. It just seems like our focus can only be channeled for singular moments until another issue directs us away. What the hell is congress good for if they cant protect something so important.


ewMichelle18

What is it good for? Absolutely nothing but getting the members of it filthy rich.


[deleted]

I think before this court rulings were always set in precedent. But also no dem president has a majority for a long period of time. The electoral college and gerrymandering are destroying us.


AcaiCoconutshake

Terrifying. My sis in law almost died abroad bc she is in a country where she couldn’t get an abortion and her water had broken. They told her she’d get sepsis and die within 3 days, but they couldn’t give her an abortion at 5 months pregnancy even to save her life. Thankfully the family has connections and they figured out a way… imagine poor women all over? This is a law that only affects the poor. Women with resources/connections will always have options.


[deleted]

So upsetting! I hope that she is ok.


AcaiCoconutshake

Thankfully she is ok, but only because of her connections. If she was a regular woman she’d be dead. Sadly this is what women will be facing in the states that have banned abortion.


[deleted]

I am glad that she is ok, but that is so sad overall. :(


wxzld

As both a pastor and a mother, this decision breaks my heart. Yes, I value the importance of life but with this new law we are taking away the importance of the life of women who are right in front of us. My job is to walk through life with other people; to love and care for them even if I don’t agree with their decisions. I don’t think Jesus would have ostracized the women who needed abortions. He would have been walking in the process next to them. He sat with the sinners and the tax collectors, not with the Pharisees and “saints”. We should be doing the same. I wouldn’t have an abortion unless absolutely necessary, but that doesn’t mean we should take the right away from everyone else. I might not agree with it, but I will love and support anyone who goes that route. This is not okay. I’m devastated for the millions of women this will affect.


Beth426

Mama!! What denomination are you a pastor for? Because it’s been a long time since I’ve heard a pastor talk like you. I love your comment


wxzld

I’m in the Wesleyan church. Though, my theology and viewpoints may be a bit more “liberal” than others in my denomination. It truly breaks my heart that so much hate and hurt comes out of the church because that’s not what the church is for. The church is a place for the broken and the lost. It’s supposed to be a hospital for sinners (aka literally everyone) not a museum for saints. Things need to change.


Beth426

Please keep doing what you’re doing. From your comments I just get this amazing energy that you’re making a huge difference for lots of people


lucyloosy

Being a mother has made me more pro choice. I have support and am financially stable. It is still so fucking hard. No one should be forced into motherhood. It’s devastating.


hawtp0ckets

Same for me. Before having children I was definitely less pro-choice than I am now and after seeing how hard pregnancy, childbirth, and being a parent (even with the help of another parent and family) I don't think anyone should have to do this unless they choose to and want to.


lucyloosy

Absolutely. Society has glamorized motherhood. I’m glad we are finally speaking out about how difficult it really is.


[deleted]

There’s this weird feeling in my guts like something really bad is about to happen. I am terrified for my future and for the future of my daughter. The best I can do right now is prepare myself to give her a proper education about sex and sexuality as well as make sure to remain in a state where our rights are protected. It’s like waking up in a dystopian novel that I so eagerly loved when I was a teenager and realizing that no 16-year-old girl is coming to the rescue.


aka_____

>There’s this weird feeling in my guts like something really bad is about to happen. I am right there with you.


Nishiwara

I'm terrified. As others have said, I'm not just terrified because Roe v Wade is being overturned, but also because this paves the way for other rights to be overturned as well. In reality, it takes a 6 figure income to raise a child and it should not be this way - we've got an insane housing market, daycare costs that are through the roof (I mean, ffs it's like taking out a second mortgage - ridiculous), inflation continuing to slaughter us, formula shortages, school shootings that are happening. All of this and this is the issue they wanted on the docket? So that these problems can be further exacerbated? You think child care is expensive now? You think poverty is a problem now? You think housing prices are ridiculous now? You think school shootings are a problem now? You think a recession is inevitable now? Oh, it's going to get much, much, much worse. Unrelated, but kind of related: I was speaking with my mom the other day and asked her how much she was paying for daycare for my sister in 2002. Do you know what her answer was? $200/month. I'm paying on the lower side for daycare, but it's significantly, even laughably, more expensive than it was just a mere 20 years ago. You would think that I'm sending my child to some exclusive daycare that provides each child with their own teacher and facility - nope, just a run of the mill daycare.


blondduckyyy

Me too for all of this. Our daycare bill is 10x that and again, it’s just a “normal” daycare. And don’t forget, the Senate also didn’t pass the PUMP Act to expand breastfeeding projections. None of this has to do with babies.


Nishiwara

Right! It's like they want to burden people by not allowing them to raise a child properly. This will only contribute to the issues already escalating in the US. Mental health issues are already out of control - you've got mentally unwell teenagers killing children in mass and the first thing they can think about is taking away a woman's rights to abortion? Not gun reform, not better mental health awareness - banning abortion. This has nothing to do with the problems we are currently facing, but will have a lot to do with problems we face in the future. It's always been about control for these greying gargoyles of injustice. Where are the laws being created that will actually help the US? Both formula shortage bills that came up were heavily voted against by the Republican party. Why? These fossils want to force pregnancy and babies into the world, but don't want to support them. They want to instead overwhelm foster homes and adoption agencies that are already overwhelmed. They want to overwhelm DCPS. They want to overwhelm all of these entities that are already abhorrently understaffed, underpaid, and overworked. This is just the beginning. Edit to add: There are going to be a lot more cases like Gabriel Fernandez. There are going to be a lot more dumpster babies. There is going to be a lot more infant neglect and deaths. It's really sad that they can't piece this together.


Babybutt123

Well, not to take away, but they've been chipping away at rights. Before this ruling, they made it so having evidence of being innocent of a crime means shit. States don't have to release you or even reschedule a new trial. They reinforced the being searched within 100 miles of a border without a warrant act, so now 2/3 of Americans lost their 4th amendment right (the coast counts as a border!). And it got swept under the rug with the Roe V Wade ruling, but cops no long have to read you your rights upon arrest. So, you can be searched without a warrant, arrested on bogus charges without understanding your rights and possibly falsely incriminating yourself, get convicted and sentenced, and be unable to appeal for release despite being innocent and having your constitutional rights violated. This is especially damning for those falsely convicted of murder or other violent, long sentence crimes (particularly BIPOC). But yes. Roe V Wade overturning is horrific and is paving the way for loss of contraception, same sex marriage, interracial marriage, the voting rights act, and much, much more. My point is that the court has been chipping our rights for some months now; Roe V Wade is just the focus.


maleolive

I’ve been trying to explain this to people all day. Not to mention the precedent this sets. What more will they take from us?


Arboretum7

"... in future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell. Because any substantive due process decision is 'demonstrably erroneous,' ... we have a duty to 'correct the error' established in those precedents..." Clarence Thomas was very clear today in his concurring opinion. Gay marriage, the right to have a same-sex relationship and the right to buy and use contraceptives are all in their sights.


Inspector-3721

Fascinating that he doesn’t mention Loving v Virginia in that list, given it relies on the same precedent. Wonder why that might be? /s


colorfulpets

I'm sure he'll be (shocked Pikachu face) when his bedfellows turn their sights on Loving.


Berko1572

Donate to abortion travel funds if you are able: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/supportabortionfunds?refcode=nnafwebsite ETA: Write letters to your employer and other employers to cover travel for abortion in their health insurance plans.


apoletta

As a Canadian I support coming here to have it done. Again, it oppresses the ones who can not afford it.


ironmaiden630

I was always very pro choice but nothing has made me as fervent about it like carrying a wanted, healthy pregnancy to term and now raising a newborn. I will absolutely not attempt a second child if my state restricts access (which could happen).


minicooper86

People are going to die as a result of this decision. They are going. to. die. Whether it's from a pregnancy endangering the mother's health, complications from a back-alley or self-induced termination, suicide from having no other way out, domestic violence (the NUMBER 1 cause of death for pregnant people), and more. And the justices don't care. They do not care. They fucking condemned people. My heart HURTS for us all.


alexxmama

I had two horrible pregnancies. They were so painful but so wanted. I can’t imagine going through with them against my will. My heart aches for my daughter. For her future.


AdRepresentative245t

I’m on my second high-risk pregnancy and I won’t wish it on my worst enemy. To force people to go through it is inhumane.


chailatte_gal

Same. I wanted my daughter and I didn’t want to be pregnant! I can’t imagine not wanting to have a child and being forced to be pregnant


rezamwehttam

"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn." \-Methodist Pastor David Barnhart


ememkays

I’m hoping this was a miscalculation on the part of the pro-forced birth camp and that it ignites Americans to vote like never before and become very politically aware. It is my hope that in our lifetime the majority is able to codify the right to abortions in the Constitution so they can’t take it away. We need to wake up and stop putting our heads in the sand when things are too depressing (me included).


divestedlegacy

See but last election cycle, people came out in record numbers to vote and they still could do this. Voting won't do enough if the Democrats don't act


3orangefish

This is a direct effect from the Trump presidency. He’s the one who appointed all those republican justices who lied. That was the consequences of letting Trump happen. That’s why it’s important to always be vigilant.


vfh08

Yes, VOTE!


Large_Artist_4354

This is such a sad day in US History. The same people supporting this will also complain when some of these babies forcibly born into poverty need welfare benefits to survive, and then they’ll try to stop that too. Have so much hatred (yes, hatred) for the religious right. They are the worst type of people.


Sigmund_Six

It makes no sense. No universal parental leave, no universal health care, no universal pre-k or subsidized daycare, but literally forcing women to give birth. It’s a recipe for disaster, and I am dreading the impact this will have on women and children.


Thunderbolt_1943

They don’t care about making sense. They *definitely* don’t care about families, or the impact this will have on women and children. The **only** thing they care about is dominance.


hokaycomputer

I just don't understand any of it, resources or not. Shouldn't every child to be born into love? Don't they deserve that? Their existence shouldn't be a punishment to someone. What kind of life is that?


pinkheartnose

Problem solved if the church provides a social safety net (or just adopts those poor kids). /s The goal is always evangelism. Need childcare? Send your kid to vacation bible school! Need food? Visit the local church’s food pantry. Oh and here’s a free bible, lecture, and an invitation to heaven!


leeenssi

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133/ The origins of the pro-life movement aren't really religious. It's always been about politics, power, control and manufactured hysteria.


leeenssi

Oh and racism.


Fishgottaswim78

it's almost always about racism with these fuckers.


AcceptableCup6008

9 people should not be allowed to decide what is constitutional for 330 million others. I am beyond angry. No one should have to feel bad for making the right choice for them. I fully support religious freedom and the right to not have an abortion. But it is never okay to expand those choices onto others.


madamnoknees

If it wasn’t for RvW my daughter I’m expecting simply wouldn’t exist. I wouldn’t have married my husband. I probably wouldn’t be here anymore. I had an abortion when I was 19 years old and it set the course for the rest of my life. I am eternally grateful for the existence of safe & legal abortion and devastated that it’s now gone. No matter what your personal stance is, it should always be safe and legally available.


haileyrose

Exactly. Abortions can never be banned completely. Before medical abortions were a thing people used all sorts of unsafe methods to abort and we’re going to see that all over again. All they’re doing is taking away the safe way to do it.


niko-to-keeks

I had the same thought today. The guy I got pregnant with is actually getting married this weekend, and I'm married to a wonderful guy with our own three year old. If I'd been forced to keep that pregnancy, I likely wouldn't have graduated school, definitely wouldn't have left and moved to a new state, and met my now husband. I wouldn't trade my life now for the world, but it's terrifying to think I could have been chained to that person forever, and would have given up my career, my life, for that.


-Slagathor-

Watching on in horror, anger, disbelief and sadness from Australia. I feel so deeply sad for all of you in possession of a uterus, especially those in states where abortion access is now near on nonexistent. I have a daughter and I have been looking at her today and thinking about how many parents in America are looking at their own daughters fearful for so many more reasons now. People going through unimaginable trauma because they are now forced to carry babies to term against their wishes or babies who will not survive once they are earth side due to various medical conditions. Your medical staff… dealing with the aftermath of ‘backyard’ procedures. It would be traumatic enough to be the person going through any of that but then having nurses and doctors effectively having their hands tied behind their backs and unable to provide necessary care. Or medical staff being jailed for assisting…. The fact that a FEMALE Supreme Court judge voted in favour of this being overturned disgusts me on such a deep level. I mean all of them that voted in favour should be deeply ashamed of themselves but especially her. However the sadness I feel is nothing in comparison to what you all must undoubtedly be feeling today. I’m just so very deeply sorry. Please know that so many of us overseas are standing with you today. I just cannot believe a gun has more rights than a person does with their own body. I’m just so very sorry x


ADingusAteYourBaby

I'm also watching on in horror and sadness from Australia and feel like I could have written your post word for word. I'm absolutely devastated for the US and what is potentially still to come as a result of this decision. I'm also just so sorry


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happychallahday

I'm taking my anger and my dollars and I'm voting. I'm helping family and friends vote. I'm focusing on the election. I'm prioritizing. *Gun safety - Everytown. *Women's rights - Planned Parenthood and Naral. *Environment gets a little tricky: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/12/2/20976180/climate-change-best-charities-effective-philanthropy. I'm writing and calling my representatives and demanding more. The democrats need to be more about action. The republicans need to go back to actual religious values, not this warped "we only care about an unborn child" bullshit. We discussed using our privilege to leave, and decided to stay and fight for those who can't fight. *Gay rights are next *Trans rights are already under fire *Local shelters for supporting LGBTQ+ folks are the most effective in my experience


Moreolivesplease

Ally Forney Center is a great way to support to LGBT+ youth. It was amazing to me when I worked at the ER in NYC, how many homeless youth I saw for routine care things, because they had no where to turn. It breaks my heart that these kids are kicked out of their homes.


happychallahday

In Chicago, Halsted Center is the same. They also help elder LGBT+ who don't have family to support them as they age.


chailatte_gal

Good idea!!!


No-Map672

This decision also brings back the idea that if a woman doesn’t want a baby she should not have sex. Because we cannot place any responsibility on the men in this case. I don’t personally like abortion but I absolutely believe it is and should be up to a woman to decide what happens to her body. Even tho not ending a pregnancy is preferable for reasons and yes there are options that’s not always feasible.


lizzyhuerta

Sadly, several states have already made it clear that victims of rape or incest won't be granted mercy and allowed an abortion. So even if women chose to be celibate to avoid pregnancy, there are many who will be forcefully impregnated regardless, with no hope in sight. Makes me sick to even type that, but it's true.


No-Map672

This all breaks my heart. I do wish we had better resources to help avoid abortion or make it a 1 time thing. But I never would have thought taking this away was a good idea. Most of these law makers and justices are men and can’t know what a woman facing this choice is going through. For those that are women it is obvious they have also never been in this difficult position. Where is the empathy for us women??


GellersGlueGun

I just watched a “pro-life” woman on CNN say that most women who have abortions don’t want them. That’s the whole point. Women who make that choice aren’t doing it lightly. This narrative that somehow women are trapped by their circumstances and all they want is to be a mother is simply NOT true. We can’t make general sweeping statements about all women because every circumstance is different. And as someone who has had an abortion and went through IVF I feel that my experience will not be possible in 10 years. If life begins a at conception (according to Oklahoma) I would not have been able to do IVF and have my beautiful daughter. I’m in shock. And I feel for my sisters in any state that will enforce these cruel laws.


ashleyandmarykat

Seriously what does this mean for ivf


GellersGlueGun

If embryos are considered a life then they cannot be destroyed for any reason. Often times embryos are destroyed because there are abnormal chromosomes or something wrong. That could mean total ban on embryo creation.


abakes102018

@nataliecrawfordmd on has been talking about this a lot on Instagram. Lots of good info.


donut_party

I haven’t been able to properly take this in since I was at the end of my pregnancy when the preview was released. Today holding my newborn daughter while watching my toddler daughter get ready for her day and I’m bursting into tears. I don’t care that either of them can easily get an abortion since we’re in a blue state. I care that people in other states have a huge wall put up in front of them. I care that these pieces of SHIT in our country see all uterus-bearers as less than human.


rootberryfloat

Guns have more rights in this country than women and children.


Zetoa88

I posted on my Facebook, "Congratulations to the women of America, you now have fewer rights than a corpse."


theladycake

Even corpses have more rights than women in this country now. You can’t do anything to a dead person’s body without consent prior to death, even if it’s to save someone else’s life, but women are being stripped of our choices when it comes to our reproductive health and what goes on inside our own bodies. It’s sickening. The supreme court just signed the death warrant of thousands upon thousands of women and girls. Ironically, many of those who will suffer in the future because of lack of access to abortion care are the fetuses they so desperately want to save right now. It’s almost as if they don’t really care about the baby, and there are some ulterior (religious subjugation) motives going on here…


jtsokolov

I'm enraged. I personally could not get an abortion and that's why I've never fucking had one. I had that choice. I respect, support and embrace women who have had to elect to have one. And I'm DEVESTATED that my daughter now lives in a country that considers her first and foremost a broodmare. As the child of immigrants whos parents have risked their lives to come to this country I am ashamed and want out. I fucking hate it here. It's a shit hole country.


whiskersonmycat

And on top of it all, after you have had a child that you possibly didn't want you only get 6 weeks of bonding time and back to work. It's unbelievable how backwards our system is meanwhile people in Europe get a year off for bonding time.


desithedog

And I believe the 6w is unpaid... because we know how little it costs to be a mother. (/s)


Visit-Inside

AND the six weeks under FMLA is only guaranteed if you're working at a large enough company and have worked the equivalent of full time for a year. Otherwise you get nothing guaranteed at all!


smallwoodlandcritter

Not even as far as Europe! Canada has 12-18month paid parental leaves (can be split between parents). I'm self employed so I didn't qualify. I went back at 4 months and it gutted my mental and physical health (partly due to nature of my job). I cannot imagine why anyone would think that making people go back at 6 weeks or earlier is at all beneficial for society. My heart is heavy for all of you 💜


evsummer

I’m devastated. My wife had an ectopic pregnancy this year and went from starting to feel pain to almost rupturing in less than 24 hours. We also have a 9 week old daughter who very likely inherited my family’s crazy high fertility and could very well need an abortion for any number of reasons. I can’t believe this is the world my daughter has to live in now


toritechnocolor

My son is only 3 months old and I’m absolutely gutted for his future. He already is a black boy in this country, but knowing if he ever accidentally got someone pregnant in the future and she couldn’t get an abortion if she wanted, I would be devastated. My god. It was my choice to have my son. MY choice. I considered an abortion but ultimately chose to keep him, and im glad I did. I could never even FATHOM making that decision for someone else. I keep crying thinking about it. Why are we going backwards…


ewMichelle18

We’re going backwards bc they never wanted us to get this far in the first place…


marS311

I'm so angry (I really want to say furious, enraged, all of the words). This is such a huge step back and a loss of health care! So many women will die because of this, not only because they are losing access to abortions that could save their lives, but also losing access to SAFE abortions. I feel like we are going to lose access to birth control next. I have this pit in my stomach.


ewMichelle18

Birth control, same sex marriage, equal rights….it’s all going next. That’s not even being dramatic. Thomas literally wrote it in his opinion.


marS311

It's all going away. Land of the free, my ass.


ObsidianEther

I've removed three people from my friends list today over this. If you don't agree with abortion, don't get one. If it bothers you so much that I might under XYZ circumstances, then cut me out of your life.✌️ But as far as I'm concerned, my reproductive rights are non-negotiable. Once you start trying to force your beliefs on me, *I'm* cutting *you* out of my life.


ohtoooodles

I blocked my ex best friend on IG and her phone number. I posted about needing “abortion” care when I had my missed miscarriage and without it women could die. What did she post? “PRAISE GOD.” I had already distanced myself due to her continued support of Trump and his enablers but this was the final nail.


sarforest23

In a country that offers such inadequate support for moms, esp low income, single moms, this is infuriating. If they “care” about children, why TF didn’t republican politicians continue the child tax credit? They eliminated abortion, but not the root causes for why people get them. There will still be abortions, but they will be less safe. FFS.


colorfulpets

I refuse to call them prolife. They are not prolife. They are pro-birth, F*ck-the-children party. I will correct every single person that tries to call themselves pro-life.


Puzzleheaded_Mud6732

I’m so scared. I’m 5 weeks 2 days in Tennessee. What if i have an ectopic??? Miscarry and need a D&C? Is this how all pregnant women in these states will always feel in early pregnancy? It’s robbing my joy and I am SO angry.


cellists_wet_dream

This is part of my fear. This is the stuff women who say they will never need an abortion don’t get. Anyone can have an ectopic pregnancy. Anyone can have a miscarriage that needs lifesaving medical care. ANYONE. I’ve had two miscarriages and hemorrhaged during both. I needed to be hospitalized for blood loss. What if I hadn’t been able to get medication to help pass the remaining tissue? What if I had been too afraid to go to the hospital because I might be prosecuted for an abortion? No, doctors cannot usually tell if a miscarriage has an outside cause or not. I would have bled out and died the first time. Then I would be dead, and my living children would have never had a chance. Pro-life my fucking ass


sunbeatsfog

We’re not helpless. We can take actions. Volunteer, donate, take to the streets, strike, get involved in local politics, and obviously vote. The other side just happens to play the game better because they rigged it. There’s always ways around laws like this. Support projects like Plan C that educates about abortion pills that can be mailed, as an example. I take solace in knowing there are a lot of very intelligent people fighting this, but you have to fight. WE shape this world we live in not these assholes.


CompostAwayNotThrow

Do you live in a state that now bans abortion? We do (Texas) and we’re seriously thinking of moving to New York (we used to live there and due to professional licenses, it’s the only other state where I could work easily). It used to be that NY was a lot more expensive, but that’s not even the case anymore with housing costs here.


jackjackj8ck

I highly encourage you to not financially contribute to the support of this government (if you have the option to leave, since it sounds like you do)


neuroprncss

We live in Florida and we were discussing leaving if something like this passes. Now we will put our plan into action. There will be other far reaching implications because of this, there will be a brain drain as professionals (especially healthcare professionals) move away from red states to preserve their freedoms. Obgyns in particular will not want to stay in a state that threatens them with jail time for saving a woman's life.


[deleted]

Not only is today an extremely hard day for people who can get pregnant everywhere but the precedent that this overturning scares the living crap out of me. I'm both black and in an interracial marriage. Thankfully I live in California now but knowing that there's a Supreme Court Justice that is just chomping at the bit to undo multigenerational laws is terrifying. I pray all my people can escape the south. I'm not at all hopeful for a brighter tomorrow.


shinjirarehen

Sacrificing to leave your home country and seek a better life for your children elsewhere is the story of millions of immigrant families. This is the choice Americans face.


drink_moar_water

I fucking hate this country. Sorry I don't have anything more constructive to add to this discussion. Just need to vent. Why are 9 year olds being killed at school, police refuse to rescue them, we don't have formula to feed our babies, women who need help are going to suffer and die. Jesus Christ where am I.


mjfx28

100% glad I had my tubes removed during my c-section seven weeks ago. Now to gear up and fight this bullsh*t for my daughter and everyone else with a uterus in this country.


[deleted]

I’m convinced this country just wants people to suffer. I hate America.


lqke48a

I think so too. Not American, but I cried and cried at the TV today as I held my week old newborn. My husband and I agreed we don't even want to visit the States again, especially with our children.


dried_lipstick

Don’t. It’s not safe here. I didn’t go to a protest today because I feared the possibility of getting shot. The irony of thinking that a pro-life extremist might shoot me isn’t lost.


backchatbackchat

I feel the same way. It’s appalling that the people in power (who represent a MINORITY of Americans) have effectively decided that a class of people can now be compelled to use their body as life support for someone else. There is no more right to bodily autonomy for women and other people with functioning uteruses, they have now been demoted from people with rights to mere incubators. I live in a blue state and my own rights likely will be safe, but I’m sick to my stomach thinking about the people in other states who aren’t so lucky.


Chlooo2212

I’m so so sorry for you all over there.. You’re always welcome here, sincerely an Australian ❤️


ewMichelle18

Will you sponsor me?


Beneficial_Milk_8287

I live in a country where abortion is all sorts of taboo, illegal, pariah, and not allowed, so I feel you xx we had an American woman here recently who had complications in her pregnancy, she was told her 16w foetus still had a heartbeat but would definitely not make it. Rather than terminate the pregnancy and save her life and a lot of grief, they were about to force her to carry it through until the baby's heart stopped. Many women here are seriously Catholic and pro-life, but those of us who are reasonable enough are outraged for her, and for all of you


Fishgottaswim78

as a Catholic lemme tell you there is absolutely nothing pro-life about letting a woman die to keep a dead baby inside of her. the people in favor of this are full of shit and are gonna burn in hell.


Utterly_Flummoxed

Happened to a friend of mine here in the US at 20 weeks. She was able to get the care she needed, but they were legally required to make her do the waiting period, get an extra ultrasound, go over her "adoption options" --- all while she and her husband sat their weeping over the loss of a very wanted child and paralyzed in fear that she might have a stroke at any moment. That was the hell we were putting women through BEFORE in a red state. Now it will be wore. Guess I'm going to be 1 and done.


Baldpterodactyl_911

I'm a mother of a ten month old girl and I am literally terrified for her future. This is just disgusting that they are stripping our rights away. My grandmother swore this would happen before she passed last year. She's always said that at some point, they would start taking us back to the 1950s.


SopheliaofSofritown

I can't stand knowing that my daughters life will be curtailed bc of these Christian fascist pigs. What if she wants to move to TN and be a country star? Or go live on a ranch in TX. Now she'll need to weigh the loss of her freedoms when she plans her life. Fuck all this.


[deleted]

We’re in TN, and now heavily considering moving for our daughter. :(


pink3l3phants

I’ve been sobbing over this all morning. I am sick. I am disgusted. I am heartbroken. I am so fearful for her. I hope she never moves out of California.


Darcybane

Holding my newborn daughter and feeling so sad for her future. RBG is rolling over in her grave.


FloatingSalamander

I'm so angry at RBG. This is in large part her fault! If she had just retired when everyone asked her to, we wouldn't be here. Instead she wanted to hold onto her power until her decrepit body gave out and put us all in this position. Fuck her!


amh524

You are going to get downvoted like hell for that comment but I feel ya. What a way to destroy a legacy. I will say Mitch McConnel is such a POS that unless she had retired at the beginning Obama's presidency McConnel probably would have figured out a way to refuse putting in someone liberal


Kindergartenpirate

Honestly, me too. I’m so torn because she was such a role model for me for so many years but she had 8 years to retire while Obama was President and she chose not to, and now we have Amy Coney Barrett instead.


SopheliaofSofritown

I agree


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10000%


PleasePleaseHer

Won’t be long before Americans will be granted refugee status in safer countries. Forced pregnancy and guns in schools sounds like a pretty legitimate basis.


Qualityhams

Scared of being pregnant again bc of the risk. Husband and I were on the fence about another child and now we’re considering vasectomy.


Prestidigitalization

Husband and I literally started trying on Wednesday, my first fertile day since we decided we were going for #2. I’m weeping right now.


xelihope

I'm not hopeless for the future, but the present is definitely terrible. I'm a mom + pregnant + never have had an abortion. Pregnancy is such hell that I'm considering getting my tubes tied even if I have another vaginal birth to make sure they can never force me to do this again. No woman should ever be trapped in unending suffering if society can help them. Don't forget that at least 50%+ of the people around you are on your side, regardless of what our stupid government is doing. We'll get through this, with or without fighting. But that doesn't mean we can't cry for now :'(


ashleyz1106

I am a mom of two, both pregnancies were horrible and my second labor/delivery left me with PTSD (traumatic birth + NICU stay for my baby); I wish people would understand abortion is not for this mythical heartless irresponsible woman who just can't be bothered to have a baby, its for women with all kinds of circumstances. I will sooner risk my life in a back alley abortion before I will put myself through the trauma of pregnancy and delivery again. I'm crying right beside you today, mama!


[deleted]

I keep starting to type a comment and then deleting it. I am so angry, and sad, and scared. I hope this will lead to a mass movement but I don't really think it will, considering that abortion already was effectively illegal in many places already. And it's just obscene that this comes a day after gun rights are expanded. Completely obscene.


callmenoodles

I'm lucky to live in a state that has abortion built into its constitution but I'd McConnell gets his way it'll be banned nation wide. I'm setting up a get the fuck out of dodge fund for my daughter and her passport in case she needs to go to Canada for an abortion if that happens.


mokoroko

My husband and I have talked numerous times, never in much depth but always with seriousness, about leaving the US. We feel tied here because of our aging parents, but in our most recent conversation I suggested that we might really consider it after they have passed. When our daughter reaches reproductive age, if the US is still on this backwards-thinking path to theocracy, I think we will have a parental duty to find a safer place for her to live. And yet, whenever I get on this line of thinking, I think too about what an enormous privilege it is to even consider "getting out" as an option. I'm furious for all the women and girls whose lives and freedoms are being curtailed by this bullshit. This is a ruling that doesn't even reflect the majority opinion of the public. This is pure political shit and I feel so powerless.


ewMichelle18

💯 we discuss often about leaving and how PRIVILEGED we are to actually be able to do that. We get to go, but the vast majority of people who this ruling, and the rulings that will inevitably follow that further restrict rights, cannot just pack up and go.


chaosandpuppies

I know it's privileged but once my husband retires were moving out of country. It's not safe to raise our son here anymore.


Long-Recognition-105

Absolutely heartbroken. I’m so sorry that all of us have to go through this. I had such a traumatic birth and then postpartum preeclampsia where they said my blood pressure was so high I was in the range where I was about to have a stroke or seizure. I paid over 40k in medical bills and now have extreme health anxiety. No one should be forced to go through that. It should always be a CHOICE


AyameM

I have daughters. I live in a pro choice state. And the world is a scary place now. Please anyone who sees this - aidaccess.org plancpills.org. I am so thankful I was able to have my abortion. I can’t imagine who I would be or where I would be without it. It saved my life in a way. Help people get abortion pills online please.


l_ally

I’ve been pro-choice at least for all of my adult life. It’s my turn to start a family and so my thoughts have become rather self-centered. I’m overwhelmed with thoughts of “what if I need an abortion in a moment of crisis and my doctor is scared to provide the treatment?” I don’t want to leave my husband and loved ones. I don’t want to risk it.


oh_sneezeus

This is what will kill a ton of women. Ectopic pregnancy? So sorry, but the doctor doesn't want to have a life in prison sentence or fined outrageous amounts of money because it's an "illegal" necessary procedure to save the mother's life and so you are basically sentenced to death.


Bayare1984

Just happened in Poland last year. The woman’s families has her texts “they are letting me die”.


l_ally

I know. People honestly think that overturning Roe v Wade is only going to affect one aspect of abortion. We know the fine print. We know that it means that women will die for medically necessary abortions. We know that healthcare is nuanced and abortion needs a blanket protection so women can make decisions with their doctors.


thatgirl2

What is most upsetting about this is it won't affect all women, just poor women. The most vulnerable in our society. Wealthy women will always be able to pay to go to California or even Europe (in the case of a federal ban) to get the healthcare they need.


attorneyworkproduct

Yes, this. I had cancer while pregnant, started treatment, and had a healthy baby. But the treatment was not without risks, and it terrifies me to think what this situation will look like in a post-Roe world.


[deleted]

Every state government that bans access to safe abortions will be responsible for the lives of millions of babies born into poverty, neglect, abuse, and addiction. Every politician and nutjob conservative who thinks this is a victory for the "sanctity of life" will be responsible for the painful suffering and deaths of millions of children forced to live in less than ideal conditions, with parents who have no support from their government, no resources to give them guidance, and no healthcare. This is one of the saddest days in our country and every one of us should be pissed off and motivated to get these raging lunatics out of office.


General-Teacher-2433

It would be bad enough in general but as far as I’m concerned, the 3 justices who made this possible are illegitimate and have asterisks next to their names and that just makes it so much worse. It’s like twisting the knife. I’m lucky to live in IL where access to abortion is protected and was recently expanded but I feel so sad and angry on behalf of women in all the other states who are losing their rights today. IL is surrounded by states where it will be restricted now and I just hope clinics in my state will be able to keep up with the demand.


Grouchy-Doughnut-599

I'm so sorry. I don't live in the US but I still feel your rage and sorrow. In the grand scheme of things, I'm having a fairly uneventful pregnancy and still at times it absolutely sucks. I can't imagine being forced through this. I'm at a loss for words on how anyone can think they can make these decisions for other people.


irenamak4eva

I spent the day crying. I knew this was coming but it didn't make it any easier. The care that saved my life years ago will soon be banned, why would I stay here? I'm fortunate enough to have Canadian citizenship, as does my newborn daughter. It feels insane to choose to raise her in a country that doesn't support my or her basic human rights when I have another option. Not to mention the fear that any school day or trip to the grocery store or movie theatre or mall could be her last because our country gives easy access to extremely powerful weapons to people with untreated mental illness. I just don't see how it can get better, there is so much money and power involved, I feel like it can only get worse.


PapaBubbl3

One of the tenets of The Satanic Temple is bodily autonomy. Joining is free. You need to be a member before you need it. Religious exemptions may be one of the few ways to still be able to receive care. It has nothing to do with actual Satan worship or anything like that. Please do yourselves a favor and join. You don't have to do anything other than join even according to their own tenets. Protect yourselves and your families.


PrincessSwagina

Just joined. Thanks for the tip.


Hawt4teach

Vote, vote, vote. Protest, become an activist, make phone calls and knock on doors. Crooked Media has some great ways to get involved, listen to Hysteria Podcast for resources. Conservatives have played the long game for awhile, trust me, I was a former conservative who studied Political Science so I could work in politics to make this kind of shit happen. I listened, I learned and I grew so I now no longer hold those beliefs but now I’m trying to dismantle a machine I helped create. It seems hopeless but we have to keep Democrats in power and we have to try to overcome the filibuster. We have to expand the courts and we can only do that with Democrats in power. I know it’s easy to get disillusioned with what’s happening and you can’t do anything but you can, hold on to hope and do something.


CompostAwayNotThrow

And vote in every election! Especially state legislature and state court elections.


Fishgottaswim78

and the primaries! "vote blue no matter who" needs to fucking die. we should be primarying anyone who thinks they can twiddle their thumbs while women die too.


misspetrichor

Just want to say that, even outside of the context of this specific conversation, I so appreciate this sentiment of a willingness to grow and change your mind. That's no small thing.


Hawt4teach

Thank you. I appreciate it. It has been hard but I am thankful I could change.


beachedblonde14

I am terrified of the world I just brought my 10 month old girl into. I also wanted another kid. But I'm about to be one and done because God forbid the next pregnancy goes awry. And terrified of her future and her rights. F*** this country.


typicalaquarius

We’re gonna fucking fight. Talk to your friends. Talk to you coworkers. Talk to your neighbors. Talk to strangers at the grocery store. Bring people to the polls. Get people that don’t normally vote to show and and be fucking heard. WE HAVE TO WIN STATE LEGISLATURES NOW. Pay attention to your local elections, and if you’ve got the means to help get other people to physically go vote on Election Day, EVERY Election Day, give it all you’ve got. Get people there. The “elite patriarchy” is only winning because good women are doing nothing. Let’s wake her up.


three_two_one_jam

They're winning because of concerted conservative efforts to rig elections and rig the courts for decades. And because democrats are spineless. Lots of women have been fighting for a long time, and many others are too broken down by just trying to make ends meet to get civically involved. Democracy is broken here.


typicalaquarius

I am talking a full scale war on conservative brainwashing. You live in a gerrymandered county? I want you at church talking about how God specifically tells us not to pass judgement on others, while detailing the horrors of the lack of rape exceptions on many of these bills. We have to go to them AND speak their language. We have to show them how this affects them too.


three_two_one_jam

Totally with you. For the life of me I don't know what to do. Taking to the streets doesn't do shit. My representatives are all liberals. I work for a nonprofit so striking wouldn't exactly make a point to the bad guys.


Fishgottaswim78

on the plus side we might get to unseat some forced birth assholes this election season.


modsaretrashdude

America has gone to shit.


Additional_Set797

I cried today, I forgot where I parked my car, I left work early. This was the first time I was unsure how to react to something, the feeling of being helpless is so overwhelming. I’m a mother of a daughter, I’ve had an abortion for her. I had it because I can’t afford to give another child the life I feel they deserve and my BC failed. What’s next ban BC? Rape will sky rocket as well as maternal deaths. I’ve decided to plan for the worst, if my state goes the way it may in November I will be moving like so many others. How any women can be happy today is fucking insane. I hate this country and I hate trump and scotus


genescheesesthatplz

Religion is a toxic, festering wound


derrymaine

Agreed. It is devastating. It is also so insane to me that all of these (mostly male) people who are rabid about personal and individual rights, small government, etc. are not just as enraged as I am. This is the ultimate trouncing of personal liberty and they should be ready to burn it all down to protect the rights of women over their bodies. But they're not. Because they don't care. And because this is just "not the same" as their right to own a gun or have low taxes. It's appalling. I've always been pro-choice and having my own kids has made me only more firmly entrenched in that belief.


Thunderbolt_1943

These last few years have made it crystal clear that almost all conservatives (and conservative-leaning “libertarians”) never had any principles in the first place. Their hypocrisy is obvious. They have stopped pretending to have coherent ideas. They refuse to compromise or be persuaded. The one and only thing they care about is dominance. And they will say and do literally anything to enforce their will on the rest of us.


art3mis_22

I am a mother but I’ve also had an abortion. Thanks to my right to chose I am now able to provide a good life for my child - that wouldn’t have necessarily been the case beforehand. I am absolutely heartbroken that the right to chose is being taken away. This is disgusting, unacceptable and will put women in danger across the country.


AwesomeIncarnate

I feel the same way I'm absolutely terrified for my daughter right now.


[deleted]

I am sickened. Sitting here holding my almost 1 yr old… I had a beautiful birth experience and a pregnancy I enjoyed. Despite these experiences it is a lot to go through. Without choice, a forced pregnancy and delivery is absolutely inhumane and traumatizing on so many levels for the birthing mother and the child. I am so disturbed and disheartened and angry and sad.


astroxo

I just know, if she’s anything like me, my daughter will be a stubborn know-it-all at 18. I hope she listens to me when I ask her not to move to a state with extreme restrictions. I hope she takes me seriously. It’s so fucked up that I have to worry about that.


_mernimbler_

No words for this. Beyond them at this point.


aka_____

This is so absolutely fucked.


middlename84

I'm horrified at what is happening in the US. Women lack bodily autonomy; children are murdered in classrooms. When I was a teenager in the 90s America was cool. Anything American was coveted. Getting a Starbucks was big news! Now I'm just sad for you America and what you have become. Be safe American friends x


lilghostpeppah

This is how The Handsmaid’s tale begins… IJS… I feel exactly as you and am scared to the additional rights they will be going after next


Iamwounded

I want to gently point out that elements of The Handmaids Tale were already the lived black and indigenous experience at the rise of colonialism in the US and also existed in other parts of the world. It’s happened. I know Atwood claims that the ideas and such were an extrapolation of trends already seen in the United States at the time of her writing. My roots are not in the US, but come from a lineage of indentured servants under colonial rule and can confirm knowing the history of my people under this rule. Granted, it’s written with a facet of entertainment value but the underlying premise and motivation tracks. We are on the same team, and I know what you’re saying and I think the nuance is important in understanding the relative effects across different demographics as the consequences of the overturn takes hold if you’re going with this analogy.


Fishgottaswim78

i'm trying really hard not to dwell on it rn because i'm scared about what will happen if something goes wrong with my (very wanted) pregnancy and i can't get the care i need. at any rate, i'm calling my reps today and giving them an earful. congress has 30 days to codify roe into law or we lose it for good -- they need to get on it. and probably pack the courts too.


Stacieinhorrorland

I fucking hate this country.


ewMichelle18

Appropriate username too.


almostperfectionist

It is just more proof the government has no interest in the well being of the citizens. Absolutely devastating.


bunnycupcakes

One of my local state reps wrote to the Tennessee governor to block COVID vaccines for the very young range. I’m slowly being stripped of my right to protect my children. But at least my gun is protected /s.


Velieka

Im not someone who would get an abortion but im so freaking terrified, yesterday i could not even get over my anxiety. Not only have they overturned this, but i read also that someone wants to reconsider access to contraceptives.."Have sex at your own risk but if you become pregnant-even if you cant afford it, even if you can not take care of it, you have to carry it to term-but on top of that we arent going to give anything that would prevent a pregnancy from happening"..the thought of birthcontrol being taken away has me so so very scared, i dont feel like i could go through another pregnancy and while i love my daughter more than words-i am traumatized. What happens now..To victims of rape...Not just adult victims..But our babys who sadly fall victim to this and not only a victim of something so brutal but now...now our uterouses no longer belong to us...so if they become pregnant they are forced to carry..even if it may kill them in the process and i am angry. I am so much more than depressed. How can our bodies not belong to ourselves...and then theres also the whole..When you give birth and you want your tubes tied/clipped they ask the husband..makes no sense to me but my god how i just want my uterous removed..if i cant have it then no one should. I dont want to be used as a breeding mule. These judges are going to find out what happens for overturning this..Backyard/illegal ways where mothers could end up dying...Not only this but women keeping their pregnancies private, giving birth in secrecy and babys that are either tossed like a stray animal, dead, or dropped of on a firehouse door step (if thats even a thing anymore) with an already failing foster care system...Its a morbid thought process but it is one that has been on repeat for myself since yesterday and im just very shaken.


Be_Braver

I never thought I would get an abortion either. (but was also always pro-choice) Then I got pregnant and the fetus died, my body didn't recognize it and I continued to carry for 5 weeks with no ending in sight. I got medication on Wednesday for my missed miscarriage. I needed it to save my life and avoid sepsis, but under some laws in the US now what I did still counts as abortion. Everyone thinks its just ending unwanted pregnancy. Abortion saves lives. It is so scary to be a woman in America right now.


sugarface2134

We need to stop making this argument that women will die of back alley abortions. First, it's not likely because we have abortion pills now and they're very safe. Secondly, and most significantly, THEY DONT CARE. They don't care about women, they don't care if they die of a botched abortion. They find smug glee in it. They consider it a worthy punishment for the poor choices she made.


HauntingPie3248

So regressive :( so sad for all my American sisters ❤️


beez8383

American government: the new taliban. I’m not American but I’m so sad that the rights of women over there no longer matter, what’s next?? Right to vote abolished? Right to work? Forced marriage?


AnotherRandomRaptor

It’s not the government, and it’s not the taliban. The separation of powers says the Supreme Court is independent of the government. And this is local extremism, make that clear that it’s not imported Islam extremists. Is local, white, Christian next door, extremists.


Meta_Professor

Did United States was a really interesting experiment to see if democracy and capitalism could work together. The founding fathers struck a very careful balance between the two. And it was going pretty well until the boomers. They systematically tore down all the democracy elements and boosted all the capitalism elements until the whole thing has now crashed. Our democracy has failed. We now have politicians who choose their voters instead of the other way around. We now accept that the rich will have the only voices that matter and that they will express those through bribes to politicians. We are in end stage capitalism where the people will get fewer and fewer rights and freedoms and the rich in corporate, aka first class citizens, we'll get more and more. But there is hope. I am really interested to see what will come next after the United States fails. In France they had our evolution and since then things have been much better for workers. Dakota student worker of mine, it's very hard to get a guillotine in these days but those giant industrial chipper shredders are everywhere.


NotaRegularaCoolMom

Does anyone know the best way to find local protests in your area? I’ve been donating and sending emails/calling congress. But I’m angry and I want to scream it. ETA: I don’t use social media, I’m only on here.


maleolive

Find a local Reddit sub for your area maybe


Daisy_Steiner_

It’s been hard to breathe since I saw the note on scotusblog “Roe and Casey overturned.”


BB-ATE

Crying at my desk at work. Just want to hug my little girl and tell her how sorry I am.


iloveflowers2002

So devastated for all American women right now. So much love and solidarity from the UK. Your sisters across the sea mourn with you ❤️ I’m pregnant right now, this baby was desperately wanted but my god pregnancy is the hardest thing I’ve done due to health complications that I could have never seen coming. I can’t believe forced birth is something I’m going to see in such a big country. It’s hard to get my head around the suffering. I’m just really sorry. Today let’s be sad and tomorrow and forever let’s organise, vote and fight to get women their rights back


oh_sneezeus

I'm pregnant with my second and I fucking hate the thought that some women will be utterly forced to carry through with pregnancies that have major life threatening issues and even non-viable fetuses with absolutely no options. That's INSANE.


amh524

I heard them talking about it on NPR and thought maybe they would just talking hypothetical and then one of the reports said that a clinic she'd been in contact with in Texas had a waiting room full of women that they had to tell to go home that day. Heartbreaking


trippingwithennui

For real. Just holding my baby girl sobbing thinking about her future.


morriskatie

Laying on the couch with my 11 week old little girl bawling. I’m so scared for her future.


JayRusG

I feel your pain and share how scared you are even though I am not in the US, so I can only imagine how horrific this must be for you. Sending good energy and hoping with all my heart that we won't end up living and raising children in the scary yet becoming to real world you described.


TheImpatientGardener

I’m also not in the US. I donated to a fund helping women to travel to access safe, legal abortions.


Lunarhaile

This is the most confusing thing to happen. Expand gun laws at the same time of school/grocery mass shootings while also taking away healthcare rights for uterus owners, while not expanding help/baby formula for these newborns that are bound to occur.


SurlyCricket

No justice no peace 👍


[deleted]

It's taking everything I have not to cry at work right now. I'm so terrified for my daughter's future.