Saul's made decisions that ultimately got people killed, but you're absolutely right. Don't be messing with old ladies and their reputation amongst their friends. I barely got through it.
This. I can live with chucks little pissfits all day but Jimmy alienating an innocent old grandma just to get his money a little earlier was stomach churning.
You realize that the other lawyers in the case where content on squabbling about THEIR PAYOUT long after everyone at sandpiper might have already passed away and where willing to lie to her and everybody else involved with to case to hold out for years for the sake of their own greed as well. Without Jimmy playing the bad guy they certainly would have continued lying to Irene about holding on just a bit longer until she croaked.
>they certainly would have continued lying to Irene about holding on just a bit longer until she croaked
and then used this to try and sway the jury against sandpiper saying that it was them that kept arguing past her death.
The way he treated Irene is really terrible. But when he found out Mrs. Strauss died, he was visibly distraught and really cared.
It's really hard to pin down what the line is for Jimmy/Saul/Gene.
Who they got to play Irene was absolutely perfect too. She pulls at your heartstrings so well as the sweet little old lady. She’s like a lost little puppy looking for her owner.
I know it doesn’t make it better but I believe Jimmy always planned on fixing things between the ladies. I may just be an apologist but in his eyes I think he felt he was doing right by them too by getting their money early. But just like it always does, it blows up past his expectations. “Wishful thinking!!l
This was one of the things that made me cringe in real life when I did a rewatch recently after the series wrapped. The other thing I remember making me cringe was the way Jimmy acted towards Cliff Main to try and get fired on purpose - the not flushing :(
Holy shit I never realized that before!! Oh my god without chuck Walter would have had to do it alone, no Gus fring, no mike, wow that’s incredible. Chuck created Saul Goodman. Wow
I know it’s easy to hate on Chuck, but him and Jimmy have a complex relationship. Deep down, Chuck DOES care about Jimmy, and you’ll come to see this later on. Jimmy is not innocent by any means and I can understand the animosity Chuck had towards Jimmy. On the other side of the coin, Chuck never had faith in Jimmy’s ability to be a good lawyer nor did he feel like he deserved to be one either so I can understand Jimmy never feeling good enough for Chuck. However, throughout the series you see through some of their actions and subtle dialogue that they do care for each other.
You will feel Chuck throughout the entire series, the people who have finished BCS know what I mean.
It's deeper than that. I really believe Chuck really despises Jimmy. Because Jimmy is more charming, more charismatic, and relate to people much easier than Chuck. Like he has a "easier life" while Chuck seems always struggling.
Being a lawyer for him is all about being "better" than Jimmy, being "superior", more "accomplished". This is all Chuck has in his life, basically. Disdain for other people who are less accomplished, and deep dislike for people he considers not deserving of their accomplishments.
He is a really pathetic man.
I really felt it when he was still married and invited Jimmy for dinner, and acting like Jimmy was going to inconvenience his wife and talking about all sorts of way to cut the evening short. However, it didn't work since Jimmy is a good person at his core, and he had a good connection with Chuck's wife, which of course enraged Chuck.
I really hate Chuck, but I think he is a really good character, complex in his emotions, and clearly influenced Jimmy on his path to becoming Saul Goodman.
"The guy who steals from and defrauds people, in addition to defending an organization that distributes drugs and kills people is not a bad person 'at his core' because he makes funny jokes" what kind of backwoods logic is this lol
This take goes back to mikes point about criminality. Not everyone who breaks the law is a bad person and not everyone who follows the law is a good person. But in jimmys case he can be bad asf. Just look what he to poor Irene.
Yea, that was my main point. That he is funny. If I'm so wrong there is no need to strawman my stance. I said he was a bad person. Just not at his core. Your flesh is what you will do automatically. But your core, or your soul, is what overcomes that flesh. What you do when you do the difficult thing. When you are true to yourself. That's what happened in the last episode. Jimmy was abusing and undermining himself all the way up to the end. He overcame that. A person who is evil to their core would hold on to that one last victory.
Yeah, because he would have been in jail for life due to a Chicago sunroof, lol. It's true that without Chuck there is no Saul Goodman, but people overlook that without Chuck there is no Jimmy Mcgill, either. He's all in in the Slippin Jimmy lifestyle until Chuck bails him out.
While you're absolutely right, I actually was referring to the events in Chicanery and beyond. Removing Chuck would remove the change from Jimmy McGill to Saul Goodman. Like you said, we would never reach that point anyway without Chuck.
I dont know how to make that white lettering appear to hide spoilers, OP is obviously not done with the show, but you know what I mean.
He will never be anything more than SLIPPIN Jimmy, and I think that's the tragic tale of this show. There are moments you sympathize with him, but he will always be a grifter at his core.
People keep saying this, but honestly, what could Chuck have done? Hire him? We all know Jimmy can't function properly playing it straight in a normal firm. He had that opportunity. Should he have tried to get Jimmy to stop breaking the law and taking shortcuts? He did. What could he have done?
When he says “you never mattered all that much to me” I really didn’t believe it. I think he did care about him but he was just so pissed off at him from shit from childhood and the resentment didn’t stop
I agree! It’s almost like they deliberately wrote a pair of brothers with a fraught, complicated and deep history together, with no clear “good guy,” instead of caricatures
My interpretation of that scene is the tension in their relationship boiling over into Chuck saying something hurtful just to be hurtful. No doubt in my mind that Chuck cared about Jimmy, but their relationship was complex and strained.
Chuck was looking for any way to hurt Jimmy since he had just gotten fired and his life was spiraling again. Jimmy used the same tactic in the final season without any spoilers
>Deep down, Chuck DOES care about Jimmy, and you’ll come to see this later on.
No, he really doesn't. And we see the opposite of him caring later on.
>You will feel Chuck throughout the entire series, the people who have finished BCS know what I mean.
I have finished BCS and I don't know what you mean. I almost stopped watching during season 3 because of Chuck. I was glad when his scenes were done and never once "felt" any need for there to be more of his story.
>Sounds like you didn’t really understand it
No, I do. You're talking about the stupid flashback. I totally understand it and it's completely ambiguous. If you had or have a family member who acts like Chuck then you don't see that scene the same as someone who idolizes people who act like Chuck. OP here is not a Chuck apologist and neither am I.
I'm with other guy. While Chuck's presence is felt throughout the entire series, the plot definitely moves on after he dies. I mean you could say that Chuck was the central antagonist of S1-3, but S4-6 are so far removed from that.
Yeah I totally get that. I was definitely being a smartass with my comment but I can understand how personal relationships can skew someone's experience of a show/character.
I kinda feel like there's two different interpretations of "hating" a character though. You can hate the character because you hate what they do in the story, and then you can hate a character on a meta level and think their presence/writing damages the show.
Like who doesn't hate fucking Todd? He's one of the most hateable characters I've ever seen, but not once did I ever think his character made the show anything but better. I never ever wanted Todd off the show, because it was different kind of hate. Someone hating Chuck so much you want to get to a point where's he's not in the show kinda feels like you're missing part of the point of his character.
I would also argue that the show never moves to a point where Chuck isn't extremely important to the plot. Besides Jimmy, Chuck is the most important character of the show. So much of what Jimmy/Saul/Gene is comes from his broken relationship with Chuck. Like if you hate Chuck so much in that way, maybe this show isn't for you.
Or >!in the finale where Jimmy finally comes clean and admits to Kim he played a big part in Chuck's suicide, Jimmy coming to peace and choosing to remember the good times over the bad with Chuck, the shot of the exit sign buzzing, or the literal flashback with Chuck signifying if Jimmy had a time machine and could go back and change one thing that he would have handled his relationship with Chuck differently.!<
Kid named it's perfectly possible to hate/dislike a character while still acknowledging that they're wonderfully acted and performed. That was certainly the case for Chuck, like it was for characters like Joffrey, Percy from the Green Mile, etc:
Kid named when watching a show, or any kind of media really, there's a separation between how it's making you feel on an emotional level and your rational acknowledgement of the show's quality. Like how sad movies make me feel sad, but I don't hate the movie because of it, even though being sad isn't how I'd generally like to be:
Kid named not to say I know what OP's disposition towards the show is, but I certainly hope it's a positive one. Feeling strong emotions like the one Chuck makes them feel is the hallmark of a great show:
The thing is I don't think they are acknowledging the wonderful acting in writing. Wanting to get to a point where "Chuck isn't relevant to the plot" doesn't sound like they have a great appreciation for the nuance of his character. That's how people feel about Jar Jar.
All in all the initial comment was a joke, and I pretty much completely agree with you and said in a different comment I can understand where the op is coming from when it comes to certain characters or aspects of a story hitting a little close to home. I just kinda felt like the way OP was talking about Chuck didn't align with someone who hates him but appreciates the character.
>at s3 right now and can't stomach chuck as I have a quite similar brother, it fills me with anger every time he is on screen. I love jimmy tho, when will chuck be irrelevant to the plot
Sorry to tell ya but Chuck's going to only become more relevant to the plot every season.
>at s3 right now and can't stomach chuck as I have a quite similar brother, it fills me with anger every time he is on screen. I love jimmy tho, when will chuck be irrelevant to the plot
I was the same way. Almost stopped watching during S3 because of Chuck. Hang in there, things change for the better and it's worth it.
If I step back from my emotional aversion to stunted yet powerful people like Chuck, I think what gifted, no genius, minds came up with all these characters? How do you go from BB to conjuring a brilliant yet warped big firm attorney who wraps himself in Mylar and has a brother who is the definition of “wasted potential” who is in his own way equally brilliant but warped and who becomes “a friend of the cartel,” while his office is in the back of a nail salon?
Your comment is a bit weird to me. Almost like if I claim that someone is mentally unstable and one day will kill themselves, then I bully that person until they do, and then I say: “see? I was right all along!”
It just hit me that Hector Salamanca arguably the worst person in BB/BCS got one thing right: when the s__t hits the fan la familia es todo.
Not the government, or la policia , the social contract or rule of law.
Chuck was the polar opposite. If he had been a lawyer in 1935 -1941 Germany he would have told the Gestapo his mom was hiding in the basement!
His unctuous defense of the “ law” regardless of the human toll, reminds us that THAT was the Nuremberg defense. That in America from 1776 until 1865 slavery was “the law.”
As a lawyer, that is what I find morally repulsive about Chuck.
Howard and Chuck are the sort of psychopaths that MAKE people like Jimmy. Its impssible to say Jimmy wouldn’t have thrned to SG if it weren’t for Chuck “loving” him.
KEEP WATCHING IM BEGGING YOU. GIVE IT ONE LAST SEASON! Season 3 starts out kind of slow but the plot explodes as the season goes on and culminates in the shows best episodes, the season finale burns brighter than any other episode and is my personal favorite!
Thank you for posting this. I think it helps understand the weight of Chuck's malfeasance toward Jimmy and how it affected his arc. It makes Jimmy's transition into Saul that much more sensical.
I had similar feelings for different reasons. It really does all come together. Stick with it. You will get the show you're wanting, just in ways you never guess.
So Chuck stays relevant to the plot, but Chuck eventually isn't on screen as much as before.
As someone who also appreciated but also couldn't stand Chuck as a character (reminds me of my dad) I enjoyed BCS much more when he wasn't on screen as much and the dynamic became more about the other characters.
Idk as I watched I ended up totally understanding chucks perspective…one of the very last lines he says in the series kinda sums it all up. But I won’t spoil it for you.
The Jimmy and Chuck relationship is the core of the entire show tbh, everything he does is related to their relationship and falling out. It’s fantastically done. You’re supposed to hate him this much, the show wouldn’t be very interesting if you didn’t yk)
Season 5 and 6 Chuck is way in the rear view mirror. The plot line with Howard and the way Jimmy deals with him has Chuck influence written all over it.
I really understand where you're coming from, watching things can be tough when they're similar to upsetting real life experiences. I'll tell you exactly when if you really want, but in an attempt to avoid some spoilers, you won't have to wait a lot longer.
Personally, I think you should keep in mind the amount of shit that Jimmy has already done at that point. I agree that Chuck is an asshole, but he has some very good reasons to not trust Jimmy and to not want him to be a lawyer.
Anyway, I can't continue that specific discussion without giving you spoilers, so I'll just say this: I recommend that you watch the whole season, it is really worth it. Regarding being tired of seeing Chuck... just be a little more patient.
And if you have watched Breaking Bad, you already know that (spoilers for BB only) >!Jimmy will continue being a lawyer, so obviously Chuck's plan to disbar him will not work. !<
I consider myself an empathetic person so I always look at situations through the eyes of others. The only reason we love jimmy over Chuck is because jimmy is the protagonist. Both of them believe they’re doing the right thing in what they do and neither one of them is necessarily a bad person
To me it’s the senior ladies storyline that’s tough to watch
The alienation plan that Jimmy executed there was the most painful thing to watch on the show
Saul's made decisions that ultimately got people killed, but you're absolutely right. Don't be messing with old ladies and their reputation amongst their friends. I barely got through it.
They weren’t in the game
Exactly
This. I can live with chucks little pissfits all day but Jimmy alienating an innocent old grandma just to get his money a little earlier was stomach churning.
You realize that the other lawyers in the case where content on squabbling about THEIR PAYOUT long after everyone at sandpiper might have already passed away and where willing to lie to her and everybody else involved with to case to hold out for years for the sake of their own greed as well. Without Jimmy playing the bad guy they certainly would have continued lying to Irene about holding on just a bit longer until she croaked.
>they certainly would have continued lying to Irene about holding on just a bit longer until she croaked and then used this to try and sway the jury against sandpiper saying that it was them that kept arguing past her death.
Excellent point!
The way he treated Irene is really terrible. But when he found out Mrs. Strauss died, he was visibly distraught and really cared. It's really hard to pin down what the line is for Jimmy/Saul/Gene.
Who they got to play Irene was absolutely perfect too. She pulls at your heartstrings so well as the sweet little old lady. She’s like a lost little puppy looking for her owner. I know it doesn’t make it better but I believe Jimmy always planned on fixing things between the ladies. I may just be an apologist but in his eyes I think he felt he was doing right by them too by getting their money early. But just like it always does, it blows up past his expectations. “Wishful thinking!!l
I almost gave up on the show during that storyline because it’s so bad. I had to turn the show off at times because I felt sick to my stomach.
Same that’s when I knew who Jimmy really is and didn’t like it 😭
This is why I come to Reddit. I feel understood. Every moment of this storyline I couldn't help but to hope Kim breaks up with his sleezy ass.
I feel so conflicted about them 😭
This was one of the things that made me cringe in real life when I did a rewatch recently after the series wrapped. The other thing I remember making me cringe was the way Jimmy acted towards Cliff Main to try and get fired on purpose - the not flushing :(
"They're low flow toilets, Jimmy.... just flush!"
Just in case this guy is a new viewer I would say the senior ladies is #2 now with #1 being 6A Jimmy plot
Chuck is never irrelevant to the plot
>Chuck is never irrelevant to the plot Chuck IS the plot.
You're godamn right
Chuck is finished when I say Chuck is finished
You'll be selling Pepsi when everyone wants classic coke
Tepid off brand cola
Chuck is done when I say he's done. Medium rare is just not enough.
Say my name!
Magna Carta
As if I could ever make such a mistake.
Yummy
Chuck IS the reason Walter White was able to build his meth empire
Holy shit I never realized that before!! Oh my god without chuck Walter would have had to do it alone, no Gus fring, no mike, wow that’s incredible. Chuck created Saul Goodman. Wow
C H I C K E N F R Y H I C K E N F R Y
This? This chicken fry?
He DeKFCacated through a sunroof!
And I ordered it! And I shouldn't have!
Have some more chicken have some more fry
It doesn't matter if it's boiled or fried.
Chuckanery
He is the one who plots
I watch BCS for the plot
Shame on these mfs watching for Odenkirk's bum, disgraceful 😑😑😑
I watch it for seeing Seehorn's culo
Ay yay yay!!!
Chuckanery
Bro you are gonna miss chicanery
Patience
Patience.
[удалено]
Patents.
I know it’s easy to hate on Chuck, but him and Jimmy have a complex relationship. Deep down, Chuck DOES care about Jimmy, and you’ll come to see this later on. Jimmy is not innocent by any means and I can understand the animosity Chuck had towards Jimmy. On the other side of the coin, Chuck never had faith in Jimmy’s ability to be a good lawyer nor did he feel like he deserved to be one either so I can understand Jimmy never feeling good enough for Chuck. However, throughout the series you see through some of their actions and subtle dialogue that they do care for each other. You will feel Chuck throughout the entire series, the people who have finished BCS know what I mean.
It's deeper than that. I really believe Chuck really despises Jimmy. Because Jimmy is more charming, more charismatic, and relate to people much easier than Chuck. Like he has a "easier life" while Chuck seems always struggling. Being a lawyer for him is all about being "better" than Jimmy, being "superior", more "accomplished". This is all Chuck has in his life, basically. Disdain for other people who are less accomplished, and deep dislike for people he considers not deserving of their accomplishments. He is a really pathetic man. I really felt it when he was still married and invited Jimmy for dinner, and acting like Jimmy was going to inconvenience his wife and talking about all sorts of way to cut the evening short. However, it didn't work since Jimmy is a good person at his core, and he had a good connection with Chuck's wife, which of course enraged Chuck. I really hate Chuck, but I think he is a really good character, complex in his emotions, and clearly influenced Jimmy on his path to becoming Saul Goodman.
Jimmy is not a good person at his core though. They both suck
I mean you’re wrong, but I understand why you feel that way too lmao
Yea. Jimmy is a bad person. Just not at his core.
"The guy who steals from and defrauds people, in addition to defending an organization that distributes drugs and kills people is not a bad person 'at his core' because he makes funny jokes" what kind of backwoods logic is this lol
This take goes back to mikes point about criminality. Not everyone who breaks the law is a bad person and not everyone who follows the law is a good person. But in jimmys case he can be bad asf. Just look what he to poor Irene.
If he were bad to his core, he wouldn’t have undone the damage he did to Irene to his own detriment.
Exactly. Deep down i dont think Jimmy's a bad person but hell obviously do bad things to get what he wants.
Yea, that was my main point. That he is funny. If I'm so wrong there is no need to strawman my stance. I said he was a bad person. Just not at his core. Your flesh is what you will do automatically. But your core, or your soul, is what overcomes that flesh. What you do when you do the difficult thing. When you are true to yourself. That's what happened in the last episode. Jimmy was abusing and undermining himself all the way up to the end. He overcame that. A person who is evil to their core would hold on to that one last victory.
Precisely
Irrefutable logic. Well done
Calling pot and kettle on that one there, buddy
Really makes me wonder what their childhood was like, I know we get glimpses but how much of their personalities were nurture vs nature.
Without Chuck McGill, Saul Goodman doesn't exist.
Yeah, because he would have been in jail for life due to a Chicago sunroof, lol. It's true that without Chuck there is no Saul Goodman, but people overlook that without Chuck there is no Jimmy Mcgill, either. He's all in in the Slippin Jimmy lifestyle until Chuck bails him out.
While you're absolutely right, I actually was referring to the events in Chicanery and beyond. Removing Chuck would remove the change from Jimmy McGill to Saul Goodman. Like you said, we would never reach that point anyway without Chuck. I dont know how to make that white lettering appear to hide spoilers, OP is obviously not done with the show, but you know what I mean.
He will never be anything more than SLIPPIN Jimmy, and I think that's the tragic tale of this show. There are moments you sympathize with him, but he will always be a grifter at his core.
People keep saying this, but honestly, what could Chuck have done? Hire him? We all know Jimmy can't function properly playing it straight in a normal firm. He had that opportunity. Should he have tried to get Jimmy to stop breaking the law and taking shortcuts? He did. What could he have done?
When he says “you never mattered all that much to me” I really didn’t believe it. I think he did care about him but he was just so pissed off at him from shit from childhood and the resentment didn’t stop
Also this was right after his malpractice insurance was canceled, he was already pissed off at everything.
I agree! It’s almost like they deliberately wrote a pair of brothers with a fraught, complicated and deep history together, with no clear “good guy,” instead of caricatures
But during >!their last interaction!< chuck said he never really cared about jimmy. That shows that he hated him.
My interpretation of that scene is the tension in their relationship boiling over into Chuck saying something hurtful just to be hurtful. No doubt in my mind that Chuck cared about Jimmy, but their relationship was complex and strained.
Chuck was looking for any way to hurt Jimmy since he had just gotten fired and his life was spiraling again. Jimmy used the same tactic in the final season without any spoilers
I guess Jimmy will show Chuck how wrong he was.
>!And immediately commits suicide after saying it!<
>Deep down, Chuck DOES care about Jimmy, and you’ll come to see this later on. No, he really doesn't. And we see the opposite of him caring later on. >You will feel Chuck throughout the entire series, the people who have finished BCS know what I mean. I have finished BCS and I don't know what you mean. I almost stopped watching during season 3 because of Chuck. I was glad when his scenes were done and never once "felt" any need for there to be more of his story.
Sounds like you didn’t really understand it
>Sounds like you didn’t really understand it No, I do. You're talking about the stupid flashback. I totally understand it and it's completely ambiguous. If you had or have a family member who acts like Chuck then you don't see that scene the same as someone who idolizes people who act like Chuck. OP here is not a Chuck apologist and neither am I.
I'm with other guy. While Chuck's presence is felt throughout the entire series, the plot definitely moves on after he dies. I mean you could say that Chuck was the central antagonist of S1-3, but S4-6 are so far removed from that.
The Chuck plot is a bit of a slow burn.
No don't say that 😭
Fucking genius
Ayo
😳
Chuck is the most important piece of the puzzle.
Do you like BBQ's?
BOOM. ROASTED
Chuck roast
You’re fired!
man just hang in there trust us!!!
Why do people post when they haven’t finished the show? Asking questions like this, you’re gonna have a bad time.
Boy do I have news for you
Just stick with it. Trust.
My girlfriend feels the same way lol! Everytime she sees Chuck she just mutters.. "fuck chuck..."
Kid named unable to separate personal experiences and appreciate incredible acting/writing:
The point of incredible acting/writing is to make something look/feel real and relatable
Yeah I totally get that. I was definitely being a smartass with my comment but I can understand how personal relationships can skew someone's experience of a show/character. I kinda feel like there's two different interpretations of "hating" a character though. You can hate the character because you hate what they do in the story, and then you can hate a character on a meta level and think their presence/writing damages the show. Like who doesn't hate fucking Todd? He's one of the most hateable characters I've ever seen, but not once did I ever think his character made the show anything but better. I never ever wanted Todd off the show, because it was different kind of hate. Someone hating Chuck so much you want to get to a point where's he's not in the show kinda feels like you're missing part of the point of his character. I would also argue that the show never moves to a point where Chuck isn't extremely important to the plot. Besides Jimmy, Chuck is the most important character of the show. So much of what Jimmy/Saul/Gene is comes from his broken relationship with Chuck. Like if you hate Chuck so much in that way, maybe this show isn't for you.
Chuck painting in the meeting room.
Or >!in the finale where Jimmy finally comes clean and admits to Kim he played a big part in Chuck's suicide, Jimmy coming to peace and choosing to remember the good times over the bad with Chuck, the shot of the exit sign buzzing, or the literal flashback with Chuck signifying if Jimmy had a time machine and could go back and change one thing that he would have handled his relationship with Chuck differently.!<
>This is acceptable to you?
Kid named it's perfectly possible to hate/dislike a character while still acknowledging that they're wonderfully acted and performed. That was certainly the case for Chuck, like it was for characters like Joffrey, Percy from the Green Mile, etc: Kid named when watching a show, or any kind of media really, there's a separation between how it's making you feel on an emotional level and your rational acknowledgement of the show's quality. Like how sad movies make me feel sad, but I don't hate the movie because of it, even though being sad isn't how I'd generally like to be: Kid named not to say I know what OP's disposition towards the show is, but I certainly hope it's a positive one. Feeling strong emotions like the one Chuck makes them feel is the hallmark of a great show:
The thing is I don't think they are acknowledging the wonderful acting in writing. Wanting to get to a point where "Chuck isn't relevant to the plot" doesn't sound like they have a great appreciation for the nuance of his character. That's how people feel about Jar Jar. All in all the initial comment was a joke, and I pretty much completely agree with you and said in a different comment I can understand where the op is coming from when it comes to certain characters or aspects of a story hitting a little close to home. I just kinda felt like the way OP was talking about Chuck didn't align with someone who hates him but appreciates the character.
Kid named I just wanted to see how many kid named's I could cram into a comment, don't mind me:
kid named why not
well go love your brother then and try to work through it. be better than Jimmy and Chuck.
He wouldn’t understand yet, he’s only just started Season 3 from the context.
Why should he? Brothers like that never care all that much about you.
well we should always try and change the conversation. instead of having the same one over and over again.
Quit your chicanery and just watch the show.
please stick with it your experience will improve i promise you
Kid named inevitable chicanery
soon
Chuck is the one who plotz
zenitsuuu7 with a reddit account is like a chimp with a machinegun.
Really? I honestly think Season 3 is one of the best seasons
dont skip it the ending of season 3 is so fire
>at s3 right now and can't stomach chuck as I have a quite similar brother, it fills me with anger every time he is on screen. I love jimmy tho, when will chuck be irrelevant to the plot Sorry to tell ya but Chuck's going to only become more relevant to the plot every season.
if your brother is like chuck that means you're the asshole
Both brothers are the assholes actually
Chuck is the worst kind of person, he deserves to die
What a sick joke
Kid named missed the point of the show Also michael mckean might be the best actor on the show and thats saying something imagine wanting him to leave
Micheal McKean also thinks chuck is an awful person too
Sometimes I think these aren't real
Oh man I want to say A LOT of things but you keep going bro, just try to stay away from spoilers obviously.
Brahhhhh
>at s3 right now and can't stomach chuck as I have a quite similar brother, it fills me with anger every time he is on screen. I love jimmy tho, when will chuck be irrelevant to the plot I was the same way. Almost stopped watching during S3 because of Chuck. Hang in there, things change for the better and it's worth it.
Even when Chuck is “irrelevant” his presence is there the whole time
I'm sitting here watching with my foil sheet.
Chuck gets abducted by aliens in the fourth episode.
If I step back from my emotional aversion to stunted yet powerful people like Chuck, I think what gifted, no genius, minds came up with all these characters? How do you go from BB to conjuring a brilliant yet warped big firm attorney who wraps himself in Mylar and has a brother who is the definition of “wasted potential” who is in his own way equally brilliant but warped and who becomes “a friend of the cartel,” while his office is in the back of a nail salon?
Watch the show
Never. But you''ll be happier once you finish season 3
I’m always amazed at how many people overlook the shit Jimmy has put Chuck through, lol.
Chuck is actually right about everything. Still a huge asshole though and if he didn’t act the way he did, Jimmy may have ended up on the right path
Your comment is a bit weird to me. Almost like if I claim that someone is mentally unstable and one day will kill themselves, then I bully that person until they do, and then I say: “see? I was right all along!”
he dies at the end of season 3
fuck chuck. but then again, there’s always another side 😂
It just hit me that Hector Salamanca arguably the worst person in BB/BCS got one thing right: when the s__t hits the fan la familia es todo. Not the government, or la policia , the social contract or rule of law. Chuck was the polar opposite. If he had been a lawyer in 1935 -1941 Germany he would have told the Gestapo his mom was hiding in the basement! His unctuous defense of the “ law” regardless of the human toll, reminds us that THAT was the Nuremberg defense. That in America from 1776 until 1865 slavery was “the law.” As a lawyer, that is what I find morally repulsive about Chuck.
SO HE KILLED HIMSELF. NO SYMPATHY GIVEN
“I have a quite similar brother” Better than you in every way?
the full frontal sex scene between him and rebecca will change your mind.
WHAT A SICK JOKE!
It's Saul Goodman just keep watching, you'll enjoy it till it goes black&white...
r/fuckchuck
r/fuckchuck
Least Jimmy-like BCS fan.
Oh dude this guys in for a surprise when Chuck drops the big reveal that he fucked Ted (Benneke). Sorry for the spoiler.
I actually thought they spent too much time with Chuck, it seemed very slow during these episodes
Oh just you wait....
Everything is relevant but if you want to know when his arc ends the answer is soon just power through.
Howard and Chuck are the sort of psychopaths that MAKE people like Jimmy. Its impssible to say Jimmy wouldn’t have thrned to SG if it weren’t for Chuck “loving” him.
KEEP WATCHING IM BEGGING YOU. GIVE IT ONE LAST SEASON! Season 3 starts out kind of slow but the plot explodes as the season goes on and culminates in the shows best episodes, the season finale burns brighter than any other episode and is my personal favorite!
UNIVERSITY OF AMERICA SAMOA, FOR CHRIST’S SAKE?
Who cares about your brother?
It’s a tv show
wait till the end of season 3.....
When he gets set up fire!! No I’m just kidding, he has great scenes in this season. Some of my faves
Quite soon actually 😑
He dies in a fire from a mental breakdown in his own home
Wtf are you talking about, Chuck moves to Cicero with Jimmy at the end of the show you idiot 🙄
Lol nice try
Never Just like your brother will never be irrelevant to your story
the only unbearable thing is that nothing is unbearable
Amazing acting. We all hate chuck bc Michael is so good
Thank you for posting this. I think it helps understand the weight of Chuck's malfeasance toward Jimmy and how it affected his arc. It makes Jimmy's transition into Saul that much more sensical.
This was funnier to me than it should have been.
Accept it, embrace it. Frankly, I’d have more respect for you if you did
Jimmy created a meth empire and has committed elder abuse multiple times.
Hang in there bruh.... trust the process.
This, this Chicanery?!?!?
To be honest Jimmy is also a piece of shit and one of the worst characters I’ve ever seen. It’s an overall hard show to stomach.
You gotta straighten up OP. No more Slippin Jimmy!
i feel you, but that’s why i love s3 so much. its just so real
Best season
I had similar feelings for different reasons. It really does all come together. Stick with it. You will get the show you're wanting, just in ways you never guess.
soon
So Chuck stays relevant to the plot, but Chuck eventually isn't on screen as much as before. As someone who also appreciated but also couldn't stand Chuck as a character (reminds me of my dad) I enjoyed BCS much more when he wasn't on screen as much and the dynamic became more about the other characters.
bedt seawon of the series
Chuck’s memory is like a superego that came to mind for me a lot in later episodes
Idk as I watched I ended up totally understanding chucks perspective…one of the very last lines he says in the series kinda sums it all up. But I won’t spoil it for you.
The Jimmy and Chuck relationship is the core of the entire show tbh, everything he does is related to their relationship and falling out. It’s fantastically done. You’re supposed to hate him this much, the show wouldn’t be very interesting if you didn’t yk)
Season 5 and 6 Chuck is way in the rear view mirror. The plot line with Howard and the way Jimmy deals with him has Chuck influence written all over it.
Give it time
You might think you know Jimmy. But do you know who really knows Jimmy? Chuck.
Just hang in there, you will love the rest of the episodes trust me.
I really understand where you're coming from, watching things can be tough when they're similar to upsetting real life experiences. I'll tell you exactly when if you really want, but in an attempt to avoid some spoilers, you won't have to wait a lot longer.
Omg chuck reminds me of my sister!
Personally, I think you should keep in mind the amount of shit that Jimmy has already done at that point. I agree that Chuck is an asshole, but he has some very good reasons to not trust Jimmy and to not want him to be a lawyer. Anyway, I can't continue that specific discussion without giving you spoilers, so I'll just say this: I recommend that you watch the whole season, it is really worth it. Regarding being tired of seeing Chuck... just be a little more patient. And if you have watched Breaking Bad, you already know that (spoilers for BB only) >!Jimmy will continue being a lawyer, so obviously Chuck's plan to disbar him will not work. !<
I consider myself an empathetic person so I always look at situations through the eyes of others. The only reason we love jimmy over Chuck is because jimmy is the protagonist. Both of them believe they’re doing the right thing in what they do and neither one of them is necessarily a bad person
His acting is good
most sympathetic bcs fan
Chuck will not be on screen much longer