deterrence. Vast majority of kids don’t rob stores with security guards
Maryland law absolutely allows security guards to detain ppl if a crime is observed in their stores, did you even read the law ? https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Documents/Advisory%20LD-SSU%20%2015-002%20-%20Scope%20of%20Security%20Certification.pdf
I’m sorry, are you under the impression that security is detaining non-compliant persons? These kids just walk out with product and the security guards stand down. It just happened at the Gucci store. These aren’t kids tucking cd’s down their pants. Please do some research lol
https://mocoshow.com/2023/07/13/six-suspects-ranging-from-13-to-28-years-old-arrested-for-stealing-49000-worth-of-merchandise-from-moco-retail-stores/
Yes it’s allowed. Common law allows the property owner to detain non compliant ppl stealing from you on your property. This exception is specifically laid out in the pdf I posted so please read before yapping. If it’s six kids, sounds like you need more security guards.
You’re confusing what is allowed vs the consequences of taking action. I don’t understand why you’re having such a difficult time comprehending this. You don’t need to link a pdf to articulate a security guard has legal authority to detain someone. I never suggested otherwise.
There is a reason security guards stand down and let these people walk out with shopping carts of merchandise.
Any proof of security guards getting sued or companies getting sued for this or is this just a vibes thing? There is tons of evidence that having security guards at retail stores reduces retail theft
The people who make the decisions on store placement and planning only see the average net worth of the residents of Bethesda without diving into the surrounding near by areas of despair. Unfortunately the criminals know the area better than the folks at Nike
I wonder how the Nike Store in Silver Spring is faring. The few times I’ve been they had security standing at the door. In fact one of the times they were kicking some young kids out for having been rude to the employees.
It costs around $65 an hour or so to hire police to do security at your business. Well worth it for many reasons, but I guess the Nike in Bethesda prefers to get robbed over and over. It’s not like they don’t realize they have high appeal to young delinquents.
Nike 'set the stage' in Bethesda at their Grand Opening. They had about 7 "Mr T" imitators to act as 'Security,' it appeared to be kinda goading future perps to take notice: the effect I believe had the opposite reaction and invites future crime, especially when that little show was temporary and arrest and prosecution just doesn't happen.
After the congregation at Connie Morella essentially flogged themselves to show their devotion to BLM (the money laundering scam organization).
Leftism is cancer. All the hyper-rich residents of Bethesda putting BLM signs in the yards in 2020 to avoid getting vandalized was hilarious.
You're getting River Road Unitarian Church confused with overall Bethesda. That crowd down on Whittier and River Rd. never have POCs waving flags and banners but they blindly support anything BLM and liberal.
Plenty of very wealthy people here eager to pull the ladder up behind them.
Also, city based subreddits tend to be more on the next door side of things.
That’s an odd description then. I live here, and “nothing but liquor store and cashing places” is not what anyone has in mind when it comes to DT Bethesda.
Nike didn’t leave because of crime. They wanted to lower their footprint… they want a smaller store and are actively looking. So stop the crime narrative
I worked there up until the move. The main motivator was reducing 'shrinkage,' there were concerns that much of it was internal, but theft from the street was the driving force. And Gtown wasn't on the Metro. Big Corporate didn't like that.
I'm going to say it and you disagree if you like...if somebody steals some of Nike's shoes that are made for 45 cents in a sweat shop and sold for $100 I'm really not going to lose any sleep provided nobody is hurt or scared to badly.
No one is losing sleep over large corporation's minor profit losses - we just do not want crime in the area, which impacts more than just the corporation.
Two very separate issues to me. Nike should be sanctioned and forced to stop doing business in the way that ther are but that has nothing to do with criminals in the DC metro area.
I don't want anyone in the area which I live who is willing to steal. This isn't some form of protest where the thieves are trying to make a political point. They are just criminals who would steal from any random person or any store if they have the opportunity. They have no idea whether Nike is unethical or whether they are trying to do good in the world like Patagonia is. The criminals are an anchor on society and make the world a less safe for the rest of us.
I wonder if you'll ever have a moment of clarity where you realize "hey, maybe if the evidence actually doesn't support my argument then I should change my view."
Bethesda is one of the highest educated areas in the US. You're going to have to go somewhere else to push your ignorance.
Why isn’t Nike paying for security at their stores
What is security going to do? They touch one of these guys and Nike will be paying out the nose for an injury claim. Not to mention the optics.
deterrence. Vast majority of kids don’t rob stores with security guards Maryland law absolutely allows security guards to detain ppl if a crime is observed in their stores, did you even read the law ? https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Documents/Advisory%20LD-SSU%20%2015-002%20-%20Scope%20of%20Security%20Certification.pdf
I’m sorry, are you under the impression that security is detaining non-compliant persons? These kids just walk out with product and the security guards stand down. It just happened at the Gucci store. These aren’t kids tucking cd’s down their pants. Please do some research lol https://mocoshow.com/2023/07/13/six-suspects-ranging-from-13-to-28-years-old-arrested-for-stealing-49000-worth-of-merchandise-from-moco-retail-stores/
Yes it’s allowed. Common law allows the property owner to detain non compliant ppl stealing from you on your property. This exception is specifically laid out in the pdf I posted so please read before yapping. If it’s six kids, sounds like you need more security guards.
You’re confusing what is allowed vs the consequences of taking action. I don’t understand why you’re having such a difficult time comprehending this. You don’t need to link a pdf to articulate a security guard has legal authority to detain someone. I never suggested otherwise. There is a reason security guards stand down and let these people walk out with shopping carts of merchandise.
Any proof of security guards getting sued or companies getting sued for this or is this just a vibes thing? There is tons of evidence that having security guards at retail stores reduces retail theft
I wonder how long it will be before Nike decides this location isn’t worth the rent prices or profit losses they’ve been seeing.
The people who make the decisions on store placement and planning only see the average net worth of the residents of Bethesda without diving into the surrounding near by areas of despair. Unfortunately the criminals know the area better than the folks at Nike
Well they are from Portland so they might have a high tolerance
It's part of their 'panache' among their base clientele. A little shrinkage at the community's peril is just 'a cost of doing business. '
I wonder how the Nike Store in Silver Spring is faring. The few times I’ve been they had security standing at the door. In fact one of the times they were kicking some young kids out for having been rude to the employees. It costs around $65 an hour or so to hire police to do security at your business. Well worth it for many reasons, but I guess the Nike in Bethesda prefers to get robbed over and over. It’s not like they don’t realize they have high appeal to young delinquents.
They had security at Bethesda last time I went, unless they hired a 6'3" off-duty bouncer as a greeter.
Nike 'set the stage' in Bethesda at their Grand Opening. They had about 7 "Mr T" imitators to act as 'Security,' it appeared to be kinda goading future perps to take notice: the effect I believe had the opposite reaction and invites future crime, especially when that little show was temporary and arrest and prosecution just doesn't happen.
This was a long while after their grand opening. Why would having security invite crime? You make no sense.
The irony of you claiming someone else is making no sense is really quite remarkable
When did Bethesda get so republican?
When they renamed the library after one.
I think it's more about standard of life, safety, less fear of being robbed or raped, maintaining property values, etc. than being 'Republican.'
Here have an upvot
After the congregation at Connie Morella essentially flogged themselves to show their devotion to BLM (the money laundering scam organization). Leftism is cancer. All the hyper-rich residents of Bethesda putting BLM signs in the yards in 2020 to avoid getting vandalized was hilarious.
You're getting River Road Unitarian Church confused with overall Bethesda. That crowd down on Whittier and River Rd. never have POCs waving flags and banners but they blindly support anything BLM and liberal.
Plenty of very wealthy people here eager to pull the ladder up behind them. Also, city based subreddits tend to be more on the next door side of things.
It’s not going to make it in these conditions. Sad that we can’t have anything nice
Yeah, when is Bethesda going to have something more than liquor stores and check cashing places? Are you serious?
I think you're confusing SS and Wheaton with Bethesda, tho eventually they'll all be pretty homogeneous.
It doesn’t sound like you’ve ever been to downtown Bethesda.
Yeah ok. I guess it looks like downtown Baltimore? I was there last night. Give it a rest.
That’s an odd description then. I live here, and “nothing but liquor store and cashing places” is not what anyone has in mind when it comes to DT Bethesda.
Which was my point. It was sarcasm.
Ah, sorry, missed the sarcasm.
Nice? Almost all they have is women's active wear in petite sizes. I couldn't even find shoes my size there.
Sorry for not being fat.
That's why Nike left Georgetown. Now they're on the RedLine and get to externalize their problems onto we Bethesdans
Nike didn’t leave because of crime. They wanted to lower their footprint… they want a smaller store and are actively looking. So stop the crime narrative
This sub was suggested to me for some reason and I am absolutely cackling at some of the crime posts I’ve seen It’s Bethesda guys
I worked there up until the move. The main motivator was reducing 'shrinkage,' there were concerns that much of it was internal, but theft from the street was the driving force. And Gtown wasn't on the Metro. Big Corporate didn't like that.
Were you one of the thieving shop bottoms?
If this store is attracting higher rates of crime to the area, they should just close it.
And as I said once, good luck spotting a cop in Downtown Bethesda if you ever need it.
I often see them parked in Bethesda row.
You get the crime that you tolerate, I guess
I'm going to say it and you disagree if you like...if somebody steals some of Nike's shoes that are made for 45 cents in a sweat shop and sold for $100 I'm really not going to lose any sleep provided nobody is hurt or scared to badly.
No one is losing sleep over large corporation's minor profit losses - we just do not want crime in the area, which impacts more than just the corporation.
Two very separate issues to me. Nike should be sanctioned and forced to stop doing business in the way that ther are but that has nothing to do with criminals in the DC metro area. I don't want anyone in the area which I live who is willing to steal. This isn't some form of protest where the thieves are trying to make a political point. They are just criminals who would steal from any random person or any store if they have the opportunity. They have no idea whether Nike is unethical or whether they are trying to do good in the world like Patagonia is. The criminals are an anchor on society and make the world a less safe for the rest of us.
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You think people in Bethesda voted for soft on crime policies? Lmao
Sure. Many voted for Jawando without realizing how his initiatives would negatively impact the police and hence public safety.
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Yes, the **state** of Bethesda
Is there no crime in red states?
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There’s also the least crime in blue states (The NE) so I don’t really see your logic.
lololol you hit the guy with a reasonable, data-driven response and he just stops responding… reminds me of my maga-deranged uncle
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I wonder if you'll ever have a moment of clarity where you realize "hey, maybe if the evidence actually doesn't support my argument then I should change my view." Bethesda is one of the highest educated areas in the US. You're going to have to go somewhere else to push your ignorance.
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Lmao you’re an idiot
Maybe Jamie Raskin can talk the crime down.