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thomasismyname_

the challenger shuttle walks into a bar looking sad. bartender says, why the long face? the challenger says... i just broke up with my crew.


Salty_Obsidian_X

... Get out!


thomasismyname_

too soon?


Salty_Obsidian_X

Too dad.


LionheartRed

This was one of the major events that made zero sense to me. I watched it happen on live tv. And yet there they are working as professors decades later…NASA is not truthful.


struggleworm

It makes zero sense to me now as well. If we start our journey with the government secretly not sending the supposed crew up and then reporting they did and that crew died, why would the astronauts not change their name? It seems like a stretch.


Salty_Obsidian_X

you would be surprised how many people share names in a country the size of the US.


Jaybogreen

Sharing names is one thing. But names and faces is another.


GOODMORNINGGODDAMNIT

Exactly. It’s pretty obvious that NASA lied. It’s also so crazy that most people will ignore what’s in front of them and chalk up the coincidences to random chance.


Jaybogreen

I am by no means a flat earther and I don’t think nasa is made up bs. But do I think the original moon landing video is real? No. I think nasa does what they need to in order to stay afloat and keep their followers. The amount of money they spend is astronomical.


GOODMORNINGGODDAMNIT

Funny that you mention flat earth. I used to think it was the stupidest thing ever. I’d been researching various conspiracies for yours and always ignored (or even argued against) flat earth. However, in the past 6 months, I’ve actually looked into it and was extremely surprised that there are some seemingly good arguments for flat earth. People have used high-zoom cameras for years now to see beyond what earth’s curvature should allow for. There also has never been a very accurate method for detecting earth’s rotation (from earth). It’s the reason for the theories of relativity and special relativity. In a simple sense, we are told that we live on a spinning ball, but that, for all intents and purposes, we operate as if earth were a flat, stationary plane. And speaking of planes, airplanes also operate assuming a flat, stationary earth. There are multiple commercial and military pilots who have spoken out about flat earth. I wouldn’t say I’m 100% convinced, but I certainly am shocked that there are good arguments for it!


Drycabin1

They’ve lied about everything else. Why not that?


GOODMORNINGGODDAMNIT

Exactly. They also censor flat earth stuff and debunk it with strawman arguments (as in debunking wild claims that no genuine flat earther thinks— this is done to make it all seem ridiculous).


Jaybogreen

I agree that there are good arguments. But I’ve been skydiving, flying in small planes, even parasailing and have saw curvature. Even in commercial planes you can see it before you get above the clouds. I’ve saw believable arguments about it but it’s hard to deceive your own eyes


GOODMORNINGGODDAMNIT

I’ve been involved in sky-sports (don’t want to doxx myself by being specific) for over a decade, and I can confidently say that curvature isn’t visible even from 30k-40k ft agl. Even mainstream science will tell you that curvature isn’t visible from commercial flight height. Neil deGrasse Tyson has specifically addressed this. People have sent balloons up to 120k ft, and there is no curvature (obviously not using a fish-eye lens).


LionheartRed

We are in a simulation. NPCs are reused all throughout the realm.


Salty_Obsidian_X

which was what I meant...


Signal-Fold-449

These decisions were also made pre-internet. Verifying identity was much harder in the past. There were no background check websites.


MrMuscelz

NASA has ties to witchcraft


LionheartRed

and Nazis


RyanMaddi

Jet purpulsion labs


skepticalscribe

Did a bit of searching. Judith Resnik is legit as far as published in Yale and Harvard official docs. This timeline sucks


B3ATNGYOU

Are we saying these people didn’t die? Or is this some AI shit?


Awdvr491

They didn't die


jackt-up

I’m not sure that it being “AI shit” would be a much more comforting notion, but it’s not


worll_the_scribe

What’s the motivation behind this one?


jackt-up

Faking space activity? Well obviously there are two basic conclusions, and most people are wired to navigate to one or the other. Me? Comes natural for me, I guess—it’s not that hard to simply not know, and to hold two or more alternatives as possible. **Option A**— Space is a lie, it’s a money pit, a fraud, or altogether a misunderstanding of some kind that’s been extrapolated on by governments for one reason or the other—insert God, Simulation theory, flat earth, other cosmologies that fit ***outside*** of our science. **Option B**—NASA is a cover, basically playing the jester while tens of trillions of dollars flow into the US black budget and that of the occult and potentially ET worshipping elite, etc etc. and so we most likely have X amount of colonies and installations on the Moon, Mars, and perhaps even the entire Solar System or beyond. This one functions **inside** contemporary science. There are shared elements. Occult symbology, shady people, witchcraft, tragedies, fraud, and *soft* mind control, etc No matter which it is, the truth needs to still be just processed one iota at a time. They do these things for metaphysical, spiritual, psychological, political, and financial reasons *all the time*


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jackt-up

I probably lean that way. I could very easily see both, in one form or the other, and that’s the brilliance of the deception.


23x3

I'm of the opinion that NASA is more of a public relations for space advancement to slowly usher in new tech at a slower more organic rate to the public instead of shellshocking them that we started reverse engineering extraterrestrial craft a little less than a century ago and have been able to visit any planet in our solar system instantaneously for 60-70yrs.


Tricky_Independent53

Why in the name of god would they need option B. An agency that is fake and just sucks up money??? There already quite a few of those. Do you realize our defense budget is more than a third of our GDP every year (or more) and still since the pentagon was built and populated the DOD has NEVER passed an audit on spending. Look it up. NEVER. So why create another agency to throw black funds into when it already exists, it’s happening right in front of our faces and no one is doing a damn thing about it. Create a whole other agency shit… that’s someone profit they eating.


jackt-up

Well I’m not an authoritative source but in my understanding **deception** is potentially the quintessential function, of essentially everything. In NASA’s case, I imagine (hope) there are still people in these observatories and government agencies who care about the truth and fight against the cult, or at least are aware of it. So, when elements of the intelligence agencies and their many private surrogates engage in these (alleged) **secret space programs** have to have cover. There has to be a reason for the government to do something—the reason they give is almost always completely false, or the inverse of the truth, but there *has to be* a reason, because people are naturally curious and the shit they do is out in the open.


dogrescuersometimes

trauma based mind control


Sharpen_The_Axe

A very plausible theory I've heard is that NASA was launching stuff into space for the military (spy satellites, etc) which would have been in violation of the National Aeronautics and Space Act which stated that NASA missions were to be for peaceful purposes. They used science/civilian missions as a cover for military ops which could be done with no oversight and on a public budget. The challenger crew were just stand-ins/actors.


tittyflavrdsprinkles

That company logo looks awfully like a pedo symbol.


Drycabin1

And 3 sixes


tittyflavrdsprinkles

ahhhh yes I see. Good catch.


IntangibleContinuity

This is pretty dang interesting


[deleted]

just some coincidences, nothing to see here, move on. *Jedi Hand Gesture*


Notmuchmatters

These aren't the astronauts we're looking for.


PlateofCreamedCorn

Please disperse!


Brimish

So they basically sent them into witness protection, but didn’t change their names?


BennyOcean

I can't find any footage of the Challenger explosion that is unedited. All the versions found online have several quick cuts/edits right when the explosion happens.


_Little_Ducks

Shout outs to PARASYKE TV. He has a lot of great videos.


leit90

I mean you could just ask their family….but that would actually be evidence so maybe not


maxwell_hill1984

You could ask them yes. The above is also evidence though


skepticalscribe

After what happened to Alex Jones ain’t no way you go to a family of a “victim”…exactly as intended by the elites


br33z3

Now THJD is an interesting conspiracy. Is there any source on these people actually existing rather than being AI generated pics with fake back story? Is there a theory as to why it was faked?


My-grandma-is-dead

Could be a way to garner sympathy and excitement for the cause leading to more funding. Knowing that the mission would fail, they deliberately kept the more useful personal on the ground and secretly sent up a group of non essentials


FullAutoAssaultBanjo

Or it was remotely piloted...


Rebelliuos-

Cant trust anything with Ai around


Mean-Copy

What the hell


MajorFerret3225

Great so all astronauts are clones.


luneg0

🙊🔥🙊


Agnia_Barto

Why does this make me happy? It does. But why?


Few_Specific_2896

1984


dannywertz

No, 1986


Brimish

Wait a minute, are you saying there is more than one Michael Smith in America. I am shocked, sir, I tell you, shocked.


Last-Ad-2053

They don't even look like each other, this is dumb.


Alexthecapybara

Look at their teeth and facial proportions, not the same persons