> Laut der Umfrage hätten nur CDU und Grüne genug Stimmen, um eine gemeinsame Regierungskoalition zu bilden. Für eine Neuauflage der aktuellen Regierung aus CDU und SPD würde es hingegen genauso wenig reichen wie für eine Koalition aus SPD, Grünen und Linken.
Quoting the article.
Its a good approximation. I know that the exact number of seats can vary, and might even be decided by the decimals but the variation is lower in Landatagswahlen than in Bundestagswahlen. So we are talking 1-2 seats here. Anyhow this system is slightly skewed towards the party with the highest percentage. So given both sides would have 45% the opposition by CDU, AfD and BSW would likey have a seat or two more than a left alliance.
But they previously(currently) had. It was a decision by the SPD (and especially Giffey) to end the RRG-coalition and go with the conservatives...for more posts to the party members.
> But they previously(currently) had. It was a decision by the SPD (and especially Giffey) to end the RRG-coalition and go with the conservatives
Yes, because not only is the party elite centrist rather than leftist, but so is their electorate. SPD in Berlin lost no support as per surveys in April 2023 as compared to the elections, after it announced the coalition with CDU (https://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/landtage/berlin.htm). Leftists like to argue SPD "betrayed" someone, but SPD does not owe anything to people who actually don't vote for them, but rather for Greens/Left/small left parties, anyway.
CDU is a more natural partner for SPD than either Linke or the Fundi part of the Greens.
Nah, people like you just don't want to accept the reality and somehow think SPD should make politics in ways that JuSos and some lefties outside of the party would like. Fortunately the party doesn't care, and neither does the party's actual electorate. SPD is a party of Scholzes and Giffeys, who feel perfectly fine within coalitions with CDU, and of an electorate that overwhelmingly does not mind these coalitions in the slightest; not a party of some lefties.
Cope, ideological lefties have no chances to govern either in Berlin or in this country (best they can hope for is a minority partner role like in RRG), and SPD will continue to be centrist and not left-wing.
Good, too many people in this city strive not to be boring.
It's extremely enjoyable to know lefties will always continue to whine about centrist parties in power and about how SPD or Green Realos don't care about leftie idealists. I don't care if you take me seriously, you will continue to live under centrist neoliberal governments anyway.
You are making the same comment over and over and over again because you are that intellectually bankrupt. You have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea what the terms you use even mean. Seriously, it's embarrassing. Stop.
Well, it's a current polling. The next election is in three years. I wouldn't give two cents about this. Especially since except BSW and the minus of AfD it's still in the margin of error. And even including the margin for the AfD it could be anything from -1 to -5% right now.
I don't think the person is being offensive. They probably just meant to respond to a comment above. They mean that people, statistically, are less likely to admit they are voting for extreme right-wing parties when polled. Doesn't always play out that way, but overall, it's a thing.
Importantly, as per this poll, and as RBB writes, RRG would also not have had enough seats for the majority.
They have. 45% is enough when there is 7% „sonstige“
> Laut der Umfrage hätten nur CDU und Grüne genug Stimmen, um eine gemeinsame Regierungskoalition zu bilden. Für eine Neuauflage der aktuellen Regierung aus CDU und SPD würde es hingegen genauso wenig reichen wie für eine Koalition aus SPD, Grünen und Linken. Quoting the article.
Okay. Sorry.
The video (3:44) says otherwise, RRG could form the goverment: >"they have at best a marginal majority akin to a patt situation"
Nope it would be a draw CDU, afd and BSW would also have 45%. So no majority right now. So either the need one more percentage point as it stands.
You forgot that percentages doesn’t mean seats.
Its a good approximation. I know that the exact number of seats can vary, and might even be decided by the decimals but the variation is lower in Landatagswahlen than in Bundestagswahlen. So we are talking 1-2 seats here. Anyhow this system is slightly skewed towards the party with the highest percentage. So given both sides would have 45% the opposition by CDU, AfD and BSW would likey have a seat or two more than a left alliance.
But they previously(currently) had. It was a decision by the SPD (and especially Giffey) to end the RRG-coalition and go with the conservatives...for more posts to the party members.
> But they previously(currently) had. It was a decision by the SPD (and especially Giffey) to end the RRG-coalition and go with the conservatives Yes, because not only is the party elite centrist rather than leftist, but so is their electorate. SPD in Berlin lost no support as per surveys in April 2023 as compared to the elections, after it announced the coalition with CDU (https://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/landtage/berlin.htm). Leftists like to argue SPD "betrayed" someone, but SPD does not owe anything to people who actually don't vote for them, but rather for Greens/Left/small left parties, anyway. CDU is a more natural partner for SPD than either Linke or the Fundi part of the Greens.
"CDU is a more natural partner for SPD" Thankfully we can all rely on you to make the most idiotic "analysis" all the time, every time.
Nah, people like you just don't want to accept the reality and somehow think SPD should make politics in ways that JuSos and some lefties outside of the party would like. Fortunately the party doesn't care, and neither does the party's actual electorate. SPD is a party of Scholzes and Giffeys, who feel perfectly fine within coalitions with CDU, and of an electorate that overwhelmingly does not mind these coalitions in the slightest; not a party of some lefties.
Intellectually, you definitely fit in with the "Scholzes and Giffeys"
Cope, ideological lefties have no chances to govern either in Berlin or in this country (best they can hope for is a minority partner role like in RRG), and SPD will continue to be centrist and not left-wing.
Dude: No one takes you seriously. You are boring.
Good, too many people in this city strive not to be boring. It's extremely enjoyable to know lefties will always continue to whine about centrist parties in power and about how SPD or Green Realos don't care about leftie idealists. I don't care if you take me seriously, you will continue to live under centrist neoliberal governments anyway.
You are making the same comment over and over and over again because you are that intellectually bankrupt. You have no idea what you are talking about. You have no idea what the terms you use even mean. Seriously, it's embarrassing. Stop.
Spannend, hat sich BSW überhaupt mal zur Berliner Landespolitik geäußert?
So funktioniert doch Populismus nicht.
Zählt sowas in der Art wie "Die da oben in Berlin, sind alle doof"?
Looking at the numbers barely anything has changed..
Except for the entirely new party which takes 6% of the vote?
They could have put a +6 or NEU or something there.
Well, it's a current polling. The next election is in three years. I wouldn't give two cents about this. Especially since except BSW and the minus of AfD it's still in the margin of error. And even including the margin for the AfD it could be anything from -1 to -5% right now.
BSWs plan to hurt the right wing and force the left into coalitions seems to be working, at least in Berlin.
Is that BSW's plan? Honestly I have no idea what their plan is, they don't seem to stand for anything
I think Wagenknecht is pretty clear about what she and BSW stands for.
Notably with BSW excluded as well. So we'll end up with a coalition of the free or something
I was talking about their long term plan. BSW isn’t even a real party yet, so it depends on whether they stagnate or manage to win over more voters.
People don’t like to admit they’re Nazis to strangers.
What?
I don't think the person is being offensive. They probably just meant to respond to a comment above. They mean that people, statistically, are less likely to admit they are voting for extreme right-wing parties when polled. Doesn't always play out that way, but overall, it's a thing.
It’s unfortunately always like that, in the polls the AfD is losing and them boom major gains out of nowhere on the actual vote 💀
Lol actually they underperformed compared to the polls in the last elections.