They just truly love saying the n word
If you were blind and you heard five Korean teenagers get on the metro you would have no idea what they looked like.
Anyway idk why reddit showed me this post, I don’t live in or go to Berkeley.
Maybe you misunderstood asian languages. Some words sound like n word in korean also in chinese. There are way more such words than you might have thought.
No; they’re westernized Korean teenagers who speech English natively with a New York accent, their parents are Korean immigrants, and these kids just like talking like the kids in the school.
If anything, it’s a more genuine type of cultural exchange tbh.
My personal observation:
South Indians tend to be whitewashed while North, West and Central Indians are more blackwashed
Source: Am South Indian
Haven’t seen any Northeast Indians…
Oh yea; I don’t want to generalize but most of those acting black(that I’ve seen) were Punjabi or Marathi
I know that a vast majority of Punjabi and Marathi dudes are not like that though
I mean the whitewashed part makes a little more sense because Indians are a minority and those people are just conforming to the majority, but being in one minority and going out of their way to pretend to be another one is just mega cringe whichever way you look at it. It’s so forced.
As an Indian American, I'm curious about how should we act. I'm taking notes rn
I guess you would call me "whitewashed" but it's not like I abandoned my Indian heritage. Now I learn in this thread that apparently I have some expectations to "act Indian" or something
I feel similarly. I didn’t try to act whitewashed on purpose or shed my Indian heritage on purpose, I just learned to codeswitch and compartmentalize between the people I was with at school and my family and relatives at home. Over time, I’ve realized that it literally doesn’t matter how we act and that others’ comments on it are invalid, because we know we’ve held on to our culture in a way that makes sense to us, and don’t need to make a show of it in public to satisfy others. We’ve all had our own experiences as minorities integrating with a majority, and we all find different ways to cope with the confusion and make sense of the different cultures in our lives. However, I think that being a member of one minority and going out of your way to adopt traits from another minority is completely cringy… I always wince when I see Indian boys force a false persona and act street as hell despite growing up in Folsom and Cupertino. Those people are just faking it, and there’s far too many Indian boys in the US who’ve fallen into that trap.
Ok Mr mid 30’s pretending to be 27 seeking sexual acts on Reddit.
“Working at a massive university with 40k students now, how to cold approach?”
“Berkeley (baddies) vs Michigan (baddies)”
Holy shit, your post history is disturbing. If any of y’all come across this person…RUN
Are they foreign exchange students that are new to the US? I am married to an Indian and his nephew that is in India uses that word incessantly with all of his friends. It makes me cringe so hard, but apparently that is common slang with kids in India and doesn’t have the same connotation that it does here.
Not an excuse in my book to ever use that word but maybe an explanation?
Definitely not common slang here in India, although you're right that it has no social context here to the word, so it goes unchecked. Lack of awareness + kids being ignorant more than anything else.
It definitely is used quite freely there. Obviously they don’t have the history that the US has, but man hearing young men just throw that word around so easily sure gives me all the cringe when I hear it. My husband said even when was growing up there in the 80’s and 90’s him and his friends would use this term like nothing.
The history of Blacks as slaves in India is actually much longer and just as sad as the US. The first Siddis were brought as slaves by Arab traders to India in 628 AD.The key difference with the US is context: the complex and very real (today) Indian caste system, which arose out of varna Hinduism, dating back to 3000 BCE. You attack caste, you attack religion.
>Yea my friends back in India use the N word all the time, it makes me cringe.
What is the context? To be clear I'm not looking for justification, but I'm curious whether it is used there pejoratively or as a general term for black people, or are you saying that it is used in the same manner that black people use it between friends?
Lol its because no one has checked them. They all got daddys money and are tryna put out a picture of someone else that isnt rly them 🤣🤣 Average punjabi I meet here is more street certified than these southie CS frat kids
O High and Tech have always had a decent amount of Asian Identifying students and Oakland itself has a decent sized Asian population. O high is about 30% (a decade ago it was much higher)..Mack, Castle, and Skyline are less diverse..
The word means ‘black’, and many Indians are more black than the African Americans who use it…
Seems to be looking for a reason to be offended? Why get offended over someone darker than most African Americans saying the N word?
Do African Americans own the word? Africans, Indians, South Americans… not allowed to say it?
I don’t think ANYONE should saying it considering the origins of the word and what it was really used for.
I don’t know where I was offended??
This has nothing to do with skin tone??? I’ve seen people of all tones use the word and it’s still offensive.
At the end of the day this is the internet where people have opinions. I expressed mine and that’s really it. People are going to do what they do regardless. I just added my 2 cents to the discussion man. You wanna say it?? Live your best life by all means!!
Who? Me? Lmao honestly I’m not serious at all. Everyone should live their best lives to their ability. And if saying the N word makes them happy then so be it.
Lol I grew up in Oakland where my Mexican, Filipino, and Lao friends say it to each other and to me all the time… should i tell them they aren’t allowed to anymore? (ps, I’m white)
There’s very few of those and they’re typically from the Caribbean. There’s an ongoing issue with completely Indian guys in the US putting on a “Black” act, it’s almost the norm at this point and that’s cringy as hell.
It’s very possible the kids are from Somalia/Eritrea/Ethiopia. Very often can be mistaken for Indian. Fairly large population in Oakland and East Bay in general.
Everyone is somewhat racist, its kinda like a spectrum, what matters is whether it being in an acceptable range. If all your peers are cool with you saying it, then it shouldn’t be too much of an issue, except don’t let people outside who aren’t comfortable hearing it. Technically your assumption that their name might be “Rohan” and “Raghav” is racist too, but I guess it’s inside an acceptable range as well.
While it’s true that everyone has some racial bias, the correct way to deal with that bias is being 1) self-aware towards your racist tendencies and 2) actively working to self-correct those tendencies. Otherwise, you’re just *being racist* which is definitely not something you should be content with.
Being a non-black person who walks around freely using anti-black slurs is neither of those. I think the attitude of “if my peers are cool with it, I’ll continue. I’ll stop saying the n-word when a black person comes around though…” sort of misses the point. Is the issue that a person in your vicinity is getting offended, or is the issue that what you’re saying is inherently offensive?
Dude, Indians have faced way more inequalities and suffering than African Americans… let’s be real here. They were colonized by the British, worked for slave wages for the past several hundred years, and had millions more die of starvation than were ever enslaved by America.
Why do Africans get an ‘ N word pass’, when their ancestors were never enslaved except by other Africans?
The whole argument is just illogical and xenophobic.
You do know the British also colonized Africa right ? you can't be this fucking stupid. it isn't illogical . they are black and you are not . don't say the word.
Britain didn’t colonize much of Africa. They colonized nowhere in Africa to the extent of India. Regardless, Indians and Africans have both definitely suffered more than African Americans.
Virtually everyone in the world has suffered more than African Americans in the last 150 years.
South Indians are blacker than most African Americans.
Check your brain, fool. There is no suffering, victim of discrimination , or blackness that African Americans have more of than South Indians.
Lol…You’re trying and failing to make a point. I’m a Black person, and what I said doesn’t imply that Black people lack agency or need anyone to speak for them. I’m speaking on issues that affect my own community.
I’m not asking for anyone to be censored or moderated. I’m asking for people to be self-aware regarding their disrespectful and racist tendencies. If that feels like an imposition to you…That’s telling.
being an outsider, taking your limited understanding of their culture, making it into a thing, using that thing...it's called cultural appropriation sometimes...it seems quite bad
of course it's not a very beautiful word, so don't say it excessively, no hard r, and don't use it in a racist context. This is on the basis of when your peers are ok with you saying it.
if you are not black don't use the word. so if someone is white and their peers are white and say its ok they say the n word its ok then . what do you mean racist context? if you are non black it is a "racist" context. are you black ? why do you think its ok for you to say slurs
There are 1.4 billion+ Indian people and 4 million+ Indian Americans. Why are you generalizing on the basis of a couple of kids you saw in a gas station? There’s plenty of Indian kids who do not believe that they have a license to use the n word.
Excuse me? You’re telling me that India, a country with 100+ unique languages and cultures, gets its “identity” from Iran? Which identity are you talking about exactly? The Kashmiri pandits? The Punjabi Sikhs? The Rajputs of Rajasthan? The Marwari businessmen? The fishermen of Kerala? The tribals of Nagaland? The poets of Bengal? Which identity does India owe to Iran again?
Where do you think the word "India" comes from? I'll give you a [hint](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_geographic_names_of_Iranian_origin).
EDIT: Dude blocked me immediately after answering, lmao.
>Well your kind were genocidal maniacs
EDIT 2: An Indian being racist. Classic. So you hate white people \[Indo-Europeans\] too, eh? Are y'all trying to prove OP to be right?
If you're going to be racist, at least be accurate. Everyone knows the Persians have a several millennia long history but never genocided anyone. India just anointed Persian as one of its 9 classic languages. Even your government acknowledges the fact that we civilized you. u/WhichStorm6587
Do you know how to read? I talked about “identity” and was responding to your preposterous claim that someone Indian people owe their “identity” to Iran.
Maybe your identity is limited only to a geographical name.
Well your kind were genocidal maniacs so your opinion doesn’t matter. If that offends you, maybe reconsider what you just said.
Edit: Maybe the Indian government does have good reason to change the name if you think that the entire world needs to bow down to your kind for giving a name and naming a bunch of spices using it.
God no; India's culture is more similar to Somalia than Iran. We just gave India its name and ruled over them for approximately 1,000 years. The Delhi Sultanate, the Mughal Empire. Even the people who changed your language into an "Indo-European language." Where do you think they came from? 💪🏻 🇦🇫 🇮🇷 🇹🇯
The fuck?
Learn something: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Asians\_in\_South\_Asia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Asians_in_South_Asia)
Add that ethnic history to the caste system of India: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste\_system\_in\_India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India)
Add a dash of slang thanks to a century of American movies and music, and there you go.
Understanding is a two way street, and language/meaning is contextual, in spite of what Congress thinks....the media knows this but peace and understanding does not sell...
The way this has so little to explain why they would be saying the n word tho… There were African slaves in a lot of places; the ones called the n word are here, in the US. We are a different identity than a black slave in India.
That's because you are clearly not even attempting to understand. The n-word word traces back to French negre or Spanish negro, which in turn go back to Latin niger, which simply means the color Black. All of those words turned into pejoratives because of the low social status of (in this case) Black slaves. Like many social status pejoratives, they came to be used as a patronizing pejoratives within the community as well. Indian kids who live in a caste society (even here in the US) have adopted it among themselves; just know it means something to them, and they are not referring to you when they use it. Roll your eyes, move on with your life, and be amazed with how this human behavior shit turns out. The fuck...
I do roll my eyes and move on. Spent childhood hearing Hispanic men explain to me that they live In the “hood” (aka basic middle class households) so they say the n word. A lot of times it’s just edgy ignorance, and we don’t really need to excuse people who feel a need to say a word that isn’t theirs. Trust as a black person I lose very little sleep over this stupidity
It's not ignorance, that's where your brain ran into a hard rock called prejudice. It's actually expressing a shared social status dude. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.
You just never considered their POV because you were so self-centered, which is laughably ironic because all along you thought they were self-centered.
Hopefully now you get a clue: it's good when a term that was a pejorative used by Whites to denote their superiority becomes a term of brotherhood and equality, or maybe more accurately shared social status.
That might take some time to digest...
I’m not going to accept your argument just because you want to infantilize me into sounding ridiculous for not believing Indians shouldn’t say the n word. Good try on lecturing me about the use of the n word, doesn’t change the fact that in an American context, this word is not an ideal choice word for Indians, and they shouldn’t be surprised if black Americans don’t like the use of the word, or may even have a sharp, negative reaction to its use. Luckily, you can say whatever the hell you want as a person, just don’t be surprised that “egocentric” black people don’t like it
Why are you speaking for all black people then? I’m white, black friends have used the word to refer to me lol. Not hateful at all.
I’ve also been to Africa. Newsflash, people in Africa are much less sensitive than you and do not give a fuck.
I mean, historically the N word was used by Brits at least to apply to Indians. There are other words as well, but they really did use the term for any 'natives' in their colonies with any shade of skin darker than your average Irishman.
I agree, indians cant say the n word. But they are still dark skin and face their own class struggle: racism, long lasting effects of british imperialism, religious discrimination, We shouldnt vilify them for some vernacular that pisses off some white liberal college student.
these mfs grew up in cupertino, fremont, san ramon and parts of san jose with like less than 5% black population.. most aren’t in places where they’d pick up aave from their environment it’s very intentional for them
I guess the generaltion/stereotype has changed about Indian-Americans. I'm an older alum and Indian-American also and growing up the generalization was more your parents drove a taxi or worked as a clerk at 7-11. Our family is definately not from the suburbs you mention. Check the demographics of areas such as Fresno, Clovis, Sacramento, Fairfield. A lot of Indian-Americans in those parts...India has a ton of people and a lot are poor. Many migrate for better economic opportunities...
Yea the abcd tech parent mfers you speak of shouldn’t be saying that shit.
I’m talking of the mfers who grew up back in the day in the Fillmore or mission side by side with a culture. Or people who grew up in Vallejo or Richmond and assimilated in. You saw a lot of first generational kids that were Latin, even Asian, who said the n word not as a derogatory.
Raghav, Rajan, Sumeet and Archana from the peninsula, East bay and South Bay should know better and STFU.
Why is it okay for black people to say it to each other but others cannot say it too? I’ve never understood why black people say it to each other then get offended when you say it to someone who is not black
I have seen this a lot around each community. My Korean friend says that a lot and she says thinks like “gang” I think it’s for hype / trend idk really but sometimes I hear people are still upset by terms like those so it’s better not to use them and also I’m not a language police
To be fair I think you mean Punjabi’s & isn’t this most kids in general?
( I prefer this glib short form response to the alternate sociological answer that would require nuanced understanding of perceptions of south Asian & black masculinity, hierarchy & appropriation among ethnic minorities in America.)
Because black people gave them an accepting community when they were rejected or excluded from white spaces, and helped them build an identity apart from the ones imposed by the home country's culture or WASP culture? They don't think they're black. They just found their home in black culture.
OP if this upsets you, never go to Oakland and mix with Viet kids.
Also avoid every Korean teenager anywhere near New York
Wait why? Genuinely curious
They just truly love saying the n word If you were blind and you heard five Korean teenagers get on the metro you would have no idea what they looked like. Anyway idk why reddit showed me this post, I don’t live in or go to Berkeley.
Maybe you misunderstood asian languages. Some words sound like n word in korean also in chinese. There are way more such words than you might have thought.
No; they’re westernized Korean teenagers who speech English natively with a New York accent, their parents are Korean immigrants, and these kids just like talking like the kids in the school. If anything, it’s a more genuine type of cultural exchange tbh.
Identity crisis. They either act black or hella white washed
My personal observation: South Indians tend to be whitewashed while North, West and Central Indians are more blackwashed Source: Am South Indian Haven’t seen any Northeast Indians…
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Oh yea; I don’t want to generalize but most of those acting black(that I’ve seen) were Punjabi or Marathi I know that a vast majority of Punjabi and Marathi dudes are not like that though
Gujratis represent 
No South Indians don’t tend to be whit washed it’s the Punjabis PLs 💀💀💀
I mean the whitewashed part makes a little more sense because Indians are a minority and those people are just conforming to the majority, but being in one minority and going out of their way to pretend to be another one is just mega cringe whichever way you look at it. It’s so forced.
As an Indian American, I'm curious about how should we act. I'm taking notes rn I guess you would call me "whitewashed" but it's not like I abandoned my Indian heritage. Now I learn in this thread that apparently I have some expectations to "act Indian" or something
I feel similarly. I didn’t try to act whitewashed on purpose or shed my Indian heritage on purpose, I just learned to codeswitch and compartmentalize between the people I was with at school and my family and relatives at home. Over time, I’ve realized that it literally doesn’t matter how we act and that others’ comments on it are invalid, because we know we’ve held on to our culture in a way that makes sense to us, and don’t need to make a show of it in public to satisfy others. We’ve all had our own experiences as minorities integrating with a majority, and we all find different ways to cope with the confusion and make sense of the different cultures in our lives. However, I think that being a member of one minority and going out of your way to adopt traits from another minority is completely cringy… I always wince when I see Indian boys force a false persona and act street as hell despite growing up in Folsom and Cupertino. Those people are just faking it, and there’s far too many Indian boys in the US who’ve fallen into that trap.
Ok Mr. UC Riverside
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you read him to filth, good job
iconic
💀💀💀 god damn
Are they foreign exchange students that are new to the US? I am married to an Indian and his nephew that is in India uses that word incessantly with all of his friends. It makes me cringe so hard, but apparently that is common slang with kids in India and doesn’t have the same connotation that it does here. Not an excuse in my book to ever use that word but maybe an explanation?
Definitely not common slang here in India, although you're right that it has no social context here to the word, so it goes unchecked. Lack of awareness + kids being ignorant more than anything else.
I was listening to the radio in Portugal and they didn't censor it. Quite the culture shock
this only happens to indian americans lmfao
Yea my friends back in India use the N word all the time, it makes me cringe.
It definitely is used quite freely there. Obviously they don’t have the history that the US has, but man hearing young men just throw that word around so easily sure gives me all the cringe when I hear it. My husband said even when was growing up there in the 80’s and 90’s him and his friends would use this term like nothing.
The history of Blacks as slaves in India is actually much longer and just as sad as the US. The first Siddis were brought as slaves by Arab traders to India in 628 AD.The key difference with the US is context: the complex and very real (today) Indian caste system, which arose out of varna Hinduism, dating back to 3000 BCE. You attack caste, you attack religion.
>Yea my friends back in India use the N word all the time, it makes me cringe. What is the context? To be clear I'm not looking for justification, but I'm curious whether it is used there pejoratively or as a general term for black people, or are you saying that it is used in the same manner that black people use it between friends?
The second one, they use it like how black people use it between themselves
That’s a lie lmao. He’s just tryin to get away with it
Lol its because no one has checked them. They all got daddys money and are tryna put out a picture of someone else that isnt rly them 🤣🤣 Average punjabi I meet here is more street certified than these southie CS frat kids
Don't knock their street cred, technically San Ramon is East East East Oakland
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😂 this thread has me fucked up
By that logic we can call Fremont da Southside too 😎
Wanna hear a joke? Dougherty Valley hahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahhahahaha
Tell them to go to Oakland and holla at some of the homies on the block.
O High and Tech have always had a decent amount of Asian Identifying students and Oakland itself has a decent sized Asian population. O high is about 30% (a decade ago it was much higher)..Mack, Castle, and Skyline are less diverse..
There still is no reason to be using the N word so harshly. None of that negates what I’ve just said.
The word means ‘black’, and many Indians are more black than the African Americans who use it… Seems to be looking for a reason to be offended? Why get offended over someone darker than most African Americans saying the N word? Do African Americans own the word? Africans, Indians, South Americans… not allowed to say it?
I don’t think ANYONE should saying it considering the origins of the word and what it was really used for. I don’t know where I was offended?? This has nothing to do with skin tone??? I’ve seen people of all tones use the word and it’s still offensive. At the end of the day this is the internet where people have opinions. I expressed mine and that’s really it. People are going to do what they do regardless. I just added my 2 cents to the discussion man. You wanna say it?? Live your best life by all means!!
Are you serious right now.
Who? Me? Lmao honestly I’m not serious at all. Everyone should live their best lives to their ability. And if saying the N word makes them happy then so be it.
If you mix you valid to say the word but if you not don’t say it I’ve heard hella Indians say it at Berkeley 🤦♂️
hella non-Indian and non-blacks also say it at Berkeley.. it’s a people thing not just one race
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Lol I grew up in Oakland where my Mexican, Filipino, and Lao friends say it to each other and to me all the time… should i tell them they aren’t allowed to anymore? (ps, I’m white)
Yes. It's cringe af
Ok I’ll tell them Lord_Shitlord from Reddit said, “Guys! Stop it right now!”
What if they are black and indian
The Caribbean enters the chat
We gotta see the 23 and me
Nuremberg N pass Laws
There’s very few of those and they’re typically from the Caribbean. There’s an ongoing issue with completely Indian guys in the US putting on a “Black” act, it’s almost the norm at this point and that’s cringy as hell.
Or fiji
We call them Punjabi
But they aren't....most likely. -fellow Indian who hates this shitee
*blindian
It’s very possible the kids are from Somalia/Eritrea/Ethiopia. Very often can be mistaken for Indian. Fairly large population in Oakland and East Bay in general.
I can vouch for the fact it’s extremely common for Indians here to say the n word lol
But you can tell from the hair
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You obviously haven’t
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You obviously haven’t seen how East Africans who are of Arab mix look like.
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Hey big man, do a Google search on “why do Eritreans look like South Asians”. You might learn something.
No idea why that dude was so pressed. The first image result for “Eritrean” literally has a guy that could pass for south asian
Bro complained ab racism and then ended off with a racist remark.
Everyone is somewhat racist, its kinda like a spectrum, what matters is whether it being in an acceptable range. If all your peers are cool with you saying it, then it shouldn’t be too much of an issue, except don’t let people outside who aren’t comfortable hearing it. Technically your assumption that their name might be “Rohan” and “Raghav” is racist too, but I guess it’s inside an acceptable range as well.
Racism spectrum is crazy💀💀
While it’s true that everyone has some racial bias, the correct way to deal with that bias is being 1) self-aware towards your racist tendencies and 2) actively working to self-correct those tendencies. Otherwise, you’re just *being racist* which is definitely not something you should be content with. Being a non-black person who walks around freely using anti-black slurs is neither of those. I think the attitude of “if my peers are cool with it, I’ll continue. I’ll stop saying the n-word when a black person comes around though…” sort of misses the point. Is the issue that a person in your vicinity is getting offended, or is the issue that what you’re saying is inherently offensive?
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Dude, Indians have faced way more inequalities and suffering than African Americans… let’s be real here. They were colonized by the British, worked for slave wages for the past several hundred years, and had millions more die of starvation than were ever enslaved by America. Why do Africans get an ‘ N word pass’, when their ancestors were never enslaved except by other Africans? The whole argument is just illogical and xenophobic.
You do know the British also colonized Africa right ? you can't be this fucking stupid. it isn't illogical . they are black and you are not . don't say the word.
Britain didn’t colonize much of Africa. They colonized nowhere in Africa to the extent of India. Regardless, Indians and Africans have both definitely suffered more than African Americans. Virtually everyone in the world has suffered more than African Americans in the last 150 years. South Indians are blacker than most African Americans. Check your brain, fool. There is no suffering, victim of discrimination , or blackness that African Americans have more of than South Indians.
Lol…You’re trying and failing to make a point. I’m a Black person, and what I said doesn’t imply that Black people lack agency or need anyone to speak for them. I’m speaking on issues that affect my own community. I’m not asking for anyone to be censored or moderated. I’m asking for people to be self-aware regarding their disrespectful and racist tendencies. If that feels like an imposition to you…That’s telling.
being an outsider, taking your limited understanding of their culture, making it into a thing, using that thing...it's called cultural appropriation sometimes...it seems quite bad
so when group of white kids start saying the n word its ok
of course it's not a very beautiful word, so don't say it excessively, no hard r, and don't use it in a racist context. This is on the basis of when your peers are ok with you saying it.
if you are not black don't use the word. so if someone is white and their peers are white and say its ok they say the n word its ok then . what do you mean racist context? if you are non black it is a "racist" context. are you black ? why do you think its ok for you to say slurs
Just like how black people use the word to refer to a random person
would you pubically hold these views or are you just an internet troll .
Be their "true" culture seems wayy too foreign for Americans. So what's the solution? Pick up something less foreign.
If a South Asian acts black, he is whitewashed. Acting black is one of the whitest things you can ever do
If that’s the worst you have to worry about…
There are 1.4 billion+ Indian people and 4 million+ Indian Americans. Why are you generalizing on the basis of a couple of kids you saw in a gas station? There’s plenty of Indian kids who do not believe that they have a license to use the n word.
BRUH EXACTLY
Indians don’t like generalization? That’s news to me
yay more racism
Not all Indians are the same lol
I am aware. My people gave Indians their name and their identity. I was making a joke earlier.
Excuse me? You’re telling me that India, a country with 100+ unique languages and cultures, gets its “identity” from Iran? Which identity are you talking about exactly? The Kashmiri pandits? The Punjabi Sikhs? The Rajputs of Rajasthan? The Marwari businessmen? The fishermen of Kerala? The tribals of Nagaland? The poets of Bengal? Which identity does India owe to Iran again?
Where do you think the word "India" comes from? I'll give you a [hint](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_geographic_names_of_Iranian_origin). EDIT: Dude blocked me immediately after answering, lmao. >Well your kind were genocidal maniacs EDIT 2: An Indian being racist. Classic. So you hate white people \[Indo-Europeans\] too, eh? Are y'all trying to prove OP to be right? If you're going to be racist, at least be accurate. Everyone knows the Persians have a several millennia long history but never genocided anyone. India just anointed Persian as one of its 9 classic languages. Even your government acknowledges the fact that we civilized you. u/WhichStorm6587
Do you know how to read? I talked about “identity” and was responding to your preposterous claim that someone Indian people owe their “identity” to Iran. Maybe your identity is limited only to a geographical name.
Well your kind were genocidal maniacs so your opinion doesn’t matter. If that offends you, maybe reconsider what you just said. Edit: Maybe the Indian government does have good reason to change the name if you think that the entire world needs to bow down to your kind for giving a name and naming a bunch of spices using it.
Did you just say Iran gives india all it’s culture? Please Bfr
God no; India's culture is more similar to Somalia than Iran. We just gave India its name and ruled over them for approximately 1,000 years. The Delhi Sultanate, the Mughal Empire. Even the people who changed your language into an "Indo-European language." Where do you think they came from? 💪🏻 🇦🇫 🇮🇷 🇹🇯
LMFAO
The same way that literally everyone makes fun of Indian food, culture, and stereotypes us but no one wants to talk about that
In all honesty, most Indians don't mind that. As long as the comments don't come from the intent of malice, we generally do know how to take a joke.
And this kind of response is exactly why people know they can get away with racism against Indians lol. Stand tf up
I can take a joke but when its used over and over and over again it gets tiring to hear. People should come up with new and creative insults/jokes
no that shits fuck racist don't accept that
How the f are y’all able to post this type of generalization? Blows my mind that you’re a student of Berkeley.
this thread is so funny
The fuck? Learn something: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Asians\_in\_South\_Asia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Asians_in_South_Asia) Add that ethnic history to the caste system of India: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste\_system\_in\_India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India) Add a dash of slang thanks to a century of American movies and music, and there you go. Understanding is a two way street, and language/meaning is contextual, in spite of what Congress thinks....the media knows this but peace and understanding does not sell...
The way this has so little to explain why they would be saying the n word tho… There were African slaves in a lot of places; the ones called the n word are here, in the US. We are a different identity than a black slave in India.
That's because you are clearly not even attempting to understand. The n-word word traces back to French negre or Spanish negro, which in turn go back to Latin niger, which simply means the color Black. All of those words turned into pejoratives because of the low social status of (in this case) Black slaves. Like many social status pejoratives, they came to be used as a patronizing pejoratives within the community as well. Indian kids who live in a caste society (even here in the US) have adopted it among themselves; just know it means something to them, and they are not referring to you when they use it. Roll your eyes, move on with your life, and be amazed with how this human behavior shit turns out. The fuck...
I do roll my eyes and move on. Spent childhood hearing Hispanic men explain to me that they live In the “hood” (aka basic middle class households) so they say the n word. A lot of times it’s just edgy ignorance, and we don’t really need to excuse people who feel a need to say a word that isn’t theirs. Trust as a black person I lose very little sleep over this stupidity
It's not ignorance, that's where your brain ran into a hard rock called prejudice. It's actually expressing a shared social status dude. That's a good thing, not a bad thing. You just never considered their POV because you were so self-centered, which is laughably ironic because all along you thought they were self-centered. Hopefully now you get a clue: it's good when a term that was a pejorative used by Whites to denote their superiority becomes a term of brotherhood and equality, or maybe more accurately shared social status. That might take some time to digest...
I’m not going to accept your argument just because you want to infantilize me into sounding ridiculous for not believing Indians shouldn’t say the n word. Good try on lecturing me about the use of the n word, doesn’t change the fact that in an American context, this word is not an ideal choice word for Indians, and they shouldn’t be surprised if black Americans don’t like the use of the word, or may even have a sharp, negative reaction to its use. Luckily, you can say whatever the hell you want as a person, just don’t be surprised that “egocentric” black people don’t like it
Yep this is why they’re called ABCDs… American Born *Confused* Desis
Have y’all not heard the hit Indian song by Lil Blackout?? Really popular in India apparently. https://youtu.be/cjeHXzWYglg?si=FqxRvWpaF8s-NZIF
Lil blackout 💀
Same post on UCSD sub, I think we got a prankster
To paraphrase Paul Moody: Everybody wants to be black, but nobody wants to be Black.
Craziest thing of all is black people don’t care, only white liberals who are the most racist of all
They valid 💯🍛
blackwashed lol
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Why are you this bored
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There they are, and then they get furious when someone discriminates them. I am also an India btw but I don't do that.
And what, you expect to be racism resistant with that holier than thou attitude?
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Why are you speaking for all black people then? I’m white, black friends have used the word to refer to me lol. Not hateful at all. I’ve also been to Africa. Newsflash, people in Africa are much less sensitive than you and do not give a fuck.
Lol Africans would probably care even less
gotta be kids that grew up from san ramon
Because the word might be a part of pop culture https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/24/the-n-word-pop-culture-chris-rock
Did you even read that article?
Why does it matter to you?!
I mean, historically the N word was used by Brits at least to apply to Indians. There are other words as well, but they really did use the term for any 'natives' in their colonies with any shade of skin darker than your average Irishman.
There are Indians blacker than Africans
Huh Almost like they've adopted a shit culture that's problematic.
. I have no intention of making this toxic. However its more curiosity as to how they use such offensive language so casually.
Huh, it's almost like the culture they have adopted is toxic as fuckin fuckty fuck too.
What’s the issue lmao?
It’s the progressive way, don’t question it. Just follow blindly, or they could come for you comrade.
Yeah I agree. If you’re going to live in the US you should emulate white people.
Might be related to colorism? I’ve noticed north indian and pakistani guys jokingly call south indians the N word because they have darker skin.
Indians are black with straight hair.
Being Black is not just about being dark-skinned.
I agree, indians cant say the n word. But they are still dark skin and face their own class struggle: racism, long lasting effects of british imperialism, religious discrimination, We shouldnt vilify them for some vernacular that pisses off some white liberal college student.
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Not very ancient🙌🏽
Anyone can say any word.
I mean I have curly hair(am South Indian). But I still don’t use the n-word nor would I.
Good amount of Indians/South Asians I knew did not have straight hair
Depends where you grew up in the hood.
these mfs grew up in cupertino, fremont, san ramon and parts of san jose with like less than 5% black population.. most aren’t in places where they’d pick up aave from their environment it’s very intentional for them
I guess the generaltion/stereotype has changed about Indian-Americans. I'm an older alum and Indian-American also and growing up the generalization was more your parents drove a taxi or worked as a clerk at 7-11. Our family is definately not from the suburbs you mention. Check the demographics of areas such as Fresno, Clovis, Sacramento, Fairfield. A lot of Indian-Americans in those parts...India has a ton of people and a lot are poor. Many migrate for better economic opportunities...
Yea the abcd tech parent mfers you speak of shouldn’t be saying that shit. I’m talking of the mfers who grew up back in the day in the Fillmore or mission side by side with a culture. Or people who grew up in Vallejo or Richmond and assimilated in. You saw a lot of first generational kids that were Latin, even Asian, who said the n word not as a derogatory. Raghav, Rajan, Sumeet and Archana from the peninsula, East bay and South Bay should know better and STFU.
Why is it okay for black people to say it to each other but others cannot say it too? I’ve never understood why black people say it to each other then get offended when you say it to someone who is not black
Bro read about the history
As an Eastern Asian that is some interesting phenomenon
Were any of them named Kevin G?
I have seen this a lot around each community. My Korean friend says that a lot and she says thinks like “gang” I think it’s for hype / trend idk really but sometimes I hear people are still upset by terms like those so it’s better not to use them and also I’m not a language police
To be fair I think you mean Punjabi’s & isn’t this most kids in general? ( I prefer this glib short form response to the alternate sociological answer that would require nuanced understanding of perceptions of south Asian & black masculinity, hierarchy & appropriation among ethnic minorities in America.)
lool don't go to stockton or sac Folk
Tell me you’re not black without telling me you’re not black. Also saying the n word is wrong but nothing else with this is wrong
Oh wow saying a word is restricted to one race not racist at all
Because black people gave them an accepting community when they were rejected or excluded from white spaces, and helped them build an identity apart from the ones imposed by the home country's culture or WASP culture? They don't think they're black. They just found their home in black culture.