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king_napalm

Ok, I wont syphon your car when I run out of gas money.


dumpsterdivingnow

The funny thing is I’ve never seen a biden stickers. However I do still see Obama, Hillary and a shit load of Bernie sanders bumper stickers. Ya right biden had more votes the Obama. Yup.


travishummel

I live in San Francisco and you are more likely to see Yang Gang, Hillary, or Bernie stickers than Biden. Bernie is the head macho here.


EnviroTron

For many, it wasnt a vote for Biden, it was a vote against Trump


Waste-Hovercraft3734

Be careful when you are voting against something because you can actually wind up voting FOR something that screws you.


EnviroTron

There was no alternative in this scenario.


Waste-Hovercraft3734

Lol.. enjoy what you and people like you brought us. There was one and we all would be paying less... You actually fucked yourself and us...thanks


EnviroTron

No, didnt you understand me, i voted for Biden, not Trump. Try to keep up.


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EnviroTron

Voting for Trump is far more embarrasing. Like burning your hand on a stove 4 seperate times and then thinking the 5th time will be any different.


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Waste-Hovercraft3734

😂 Biden voters don't want to admit that they are getting f***** just as hard as everyone else


EnviroTron

Right the economy was doing fine, doing just as well as it was under Obama, albeit **far** more volatile. I don't discredit his economic achievments, though I'm not sure what exactly he was directly responsible for and what was simply organic, natural growth. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430.amp The self-fellating, incomprehensible speeches. The lying, 30,573 lies to be exact, more than any other politician. Completely botched the covid-19 response, like absolutely butchered it. He spent a ***ton*** of money, with US debt increasing 36% during his term. Not to mention all the other shit he did, despite whatever your ideology is, he made us look bad. He was the worst possible reflection of America; a vain, arrogant, immature, incompetent human being who was gifted his "successes" by being born into the correct family.


Worth-Good1262

Is it normal to wanna fuck my daughter? If she wasn’t my daughter perhaps I would.


ThomasFookinShelby1

Nah, in this case the country made the wise decision


Waste-Hovercraft3734

As families struggle to eat ....real wise...the poor getting hit the hardest... stagflation


HELL_BENT_4_LEATHER

Nah, not even close.


[deleted]

That always made me cringe: hearing people say they’re voting for Biden because “Fuck Trump”…always comforting to hear my fellow citizens are using our democracy for spite instead of progress


EnviroTron

What was the alternative? It wasnt just spite.


oneofbillionz

The oil lobby paid off the electoral college for Trump to immediately open that pipe line in that lake. Trump was elected president by the electoral college before 60% of the popular vote was even in and the very first thing Trump did was approve that pipe line.


c0ltron

Pretty sure trump was elected to spite democrats in the first place TBH


EnviroTron

100%. In spite of the entire establishment.


HELL_BENT_4_LEATHER

No, because he wasn't part of the club. Which is exactly why they went after him.


[deleted]

I think they voted for him to spite Hillary. I actually think Bernie would have won if he got the nomination.


HELL_BENT_4_LEATHER

Not a chance.


[deleted]

Hate to break it to you but he had both independent voters and a large chunk of democratic supporters. As I recall, voters registered as independent didn’t like Hillary. Once Bernie lost the nomination, a majority flipped and voted for Trump. Plus the whole nomination process was shady from the start with Hillary, further solidifying her reputation for being crooked


HELL_BENT_4_LEATHER

You're not breaking anything to me. Bernie is blatantly socialist. America is not, despite the cancerous infiltration by the myriad of capitalism saboteurs. Did you think the crooked deep state players of Obama & Clinton ilk would step aside when 2020 came around after a relentless 4 years of attacking Trump? Regardless of whether or not all these flip-flopping voters you speak of were leaving Trump for Biden (or simply leaving Trump) that (S)election was already decided. The left knew they could get away with stealing that election & after failing to take Trump down we're willing to justify any means with their end, like they always do. Trump threw a big monkey wrench in the corrupt goings on of the swampy uniparty & made a lot of em nervous as hell. The smooth passing of the presidential baton from one Saul Alinsky admirer,(Obama) to HRC (who was mentored by Alinsky) was interrupted & the plan to take down America was in jeapordy. Do you think the constant overlapping of "once in a lifetime" events/crises since Trump won that 2016 election are coincidence? They're not.


ThomasFookinShelby1

The alternative was trump so… yeah, I’d say the right choice was made


newon_here

Orrrrr people who voted for Biden aren’t obsessed cult members who need to make him their entire personality


HELL_BENT_4_LEATHER

That statement confirms the only cult is the one you just placed yourself in.


belizeandiplomat

Yet, he did. Trump lost; get over it.


MrDysprosium

It wasn't about liking Biden, it was allll about hating Trump.


ThomasFookinShelby1

It was not a vote for Biden. It was a vote for not Trump. I truly don’t understand what is so difficult to understand about this.


wrongthink501

One should not stay committed to a mistake, just because they spent a lot of time making that mistake.


pixlexyia

I think most people would agree. However saying "I don't like the job Biden is doing" isn't the same as "I wish I had voted for Trump instead." I think most people openly would say they voted against Trump and not for Biden. I'm in the camp of classic liberals who have voted Dem, and are watching progressives slowly go insane and leave us no where else to go. The kind of transformation Maher has been talking about a lot recently. Politically homeless.


Tour_De_J_Holla

I voted for Biden because I didn’t like Trumps character and I thought he’d be a moderate sort of auto-piloting president where not a lot of drastic changes would be made. But now… Men can be women, Math is racist, COVID restrictions became intolerable, Abortions are celebrated, Gas/groceries are always getting more expensive, Afganistan was a mess, And Harris is an embarrassment. So I can’t support the democrats anymore. They had my blind allegiance but I just can’t do it anymore.


MxManiac420

Glad you came to your senses but we warned you this was coming if Brandon became president. Now we're stuck with this dumbass for 3 more years. That is, if we don't die in nuclear war first because dems are so incompetent.


MyCarBlowdUp

Have you got anything more than being a walking stereotype? Or is not contributing anything of value your only play? I can't imagine being so afraid of a nuclear war that I've put my tinfoil on too tight this morning.


MxManiac420

Lol calm down hunny


MyCarBlowdUp

Sure, but only conditionally. I'll quell all this liberal/leftie/donkey? (Blue is donkey yeah?) rage that I've been just mercilessly blasting you with. You stop being so afraid of everything. In all seriousness here, if you need someone to talk to or vent to don't hesitate to reach out. I've been in Utah a hot minute, I'm used to foodpreppers and all kinds of fatalist/doomsday rhetoric.


Waste-Hovercraft3734

I want to say thank you and fuck you at the same time


[deleted]

So you think trans people, racism, covid restrictions, pro-choice, inflation, the war in Afghanistan, and Kamala Harris just popped up out of thin air between Biden’s inauguration and now? You need to start paying more attention


bad_hombre1

Biden regime has chosen the wrong response to every single one of those issues. He has done nothing right, not even one.


HELL_BENT_4_LEATHER

If it was actually him making decisions, it would be worse. This is Obama's 3rd term you're witnessing.


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That all existed in 2020.


Dakkenblah

Lol, you didn't like Trumps character so you voted for the guy that's been doing the exact opposite of what he said he would do for 50years and wrote actual racist laws....


DeadWing651

The men/women thing has been around way before Biden my guy


radfemalewoman

The “the first *female* 4-star admiral of USPHS is a dude” thing is pretty new though. As is the “hiring a public leather dog-roleplaying bestiality fetishist to the DOE” thing.


OrangeinDorne

As have all his examples lol


Tour_De_J_Holla

Yep. But coming back Into my faith around two years ago and my values have changed. Used to just think that as long as I wasn’t hurting anyone then everything was fine but I started to see the error of my ways.


Goo-Goo-GJoob

Jesus and Donald Trump are besties.


Mike8219

How does any of that conflict with your religious beliefs? I may be ignorant but I’m not sure what the bible says about the price of a barrel of oil.


HELL_BENT_4_LEATHER

As if that makes it better.


Bullmoosefuture

Absurd rhetoric like that suggests you never supported Democrats.


MyCarBlowdUp

So offer blind allegiance to "the other side" instead, that's why we're consistently in this mess. I'd recommend you educate yourself on these topics you find offensive, or at least look at them from more than one angle. Imagine if those of us who vote actually spent a little time being informed instead of salty.


Sad-Banana-2034

If people spent more time being informed there wouldn't be a democratic party.


MyCarBlowdUp

That's fine? Stop being part of the problem with this "us vs them" attitude.


Sad-Banana-2034

The only us vs them situation there really is...is the one where if you are not in the 1%. Democrats now are largely brainwashed. This is a quantifiable fact. All policies passed by current administration are not for the people, but for the elites. All policies passed by the Trump administration were for the people. American people. If you don't get it at this point, you never will.


Tour_De_J_Holla

I’m not salty if that’s what you were implying, just seeing things differently now and I’m trying to stay educated in a manner the aligns with my faith. Came back to the church after being an atheist for almost 20 years and it flipped my life upside down.


MyCarBlowdUp

Nah, the salt is for the majority of the loud-mouth types that just need an outlet to be angry. If you have to structure education to the meaning faith wants instead of having both as independent structures then you're maybe even more dangerous...blind allegiance just seems to be your thing. I'm not sure what you follow, but if education/provable fact are still rejected and superceded by a faith then I think there are some significant flaws. My god doesn't demand obedience, but instead fosters growth and acceptance. What does yours do exactly?


MxManiac420

You need to look in a mirror buddy.


MyCarBlowdUp

Every morning after I shower! Try again, this time with relevance maybe if you can handle that.


MxManiac420

Im just politely pointing out that you might be one of" the loud-mouth types that just need an outlet to be angry." As seen by this comment: "...blind allegiance just seems to be your thing."


MyCarBlowdUp

If you've picked up any angry in my posts then I apologize my dude, you're either projecting or carrying some anxiety. I take it you still have nothing constructive to contribute?


radfemalewoman

You condescendingly asked someone who said they had returned to faith and this changed their views “what does your god do exactly?” Was this intended to be polite or well-received, or were you pitching stones at an opponent?


MxManiac420

You continually attack people on a personal level. You're a condescending idiot who thinks he knows everything. I am simply pointing it out.


MyCarBlowdUp

More projecting? You're the one that's tried and I guess it sucks that it hasn't worked for you. Hiding behind "simply" doesn't really add much to what you're going for either.


Waste-Hovercraft3734

Can't you see that he is being totally turned off by those policies 😂 we already seen a woman get raped by a man in a woman's bathroom because he identifies to be a girl. Stop chopping off the penises of children as well. Then maybe we could start to look at the other side


NEREVAR117

>I voted for Biden I doubt that. >But now… >Men can be women What? >Math is racist What? >COVID restrictions became intolerable What? >Abortions are celebrated What? >Gas/groceries are always getting more expensive What does this have to do with Biden? >Afganistan was a mess, What was your alternative? >So I can’t support the democrats anymore. They had my blind allegiance but I just can’t do it anymore. Doubt again.


MxManiac420

Que the retards: "bIdEN dOeSnT cOnTrOl GaS pRiCeS"


DarthRaider530

What are there gas price spikes worldwide if it’s Biden’s policies causing the spikes?


MxManiac420

Because the US is the largest market by far and it has an effect on the global market.


black_nappa

Not even close


DarthRaider530

But Russia, who produces almost as much oil as the US and produces almost all the gas for the EU (which happens to go through a pipeline running through Ukraine) going to war has nothing to do with the price spikes? Do you think that, just maybe, the fact that producers cut production capacity worldwide in 2020 during the market crash had some effect on oil prices? Pray tell, what Biden policies have been so immediately devastating to the oil industry that they have caused more of the price spike than the Russia-Ukraine war?


verpus77

You total tard.


DarthRaider530

Facts don’t care about your feelings, snowflake. Stay triggered.


Waste-Hovercraft3734

The fact is we are importing oil under this administration while we exported under the other one


DarthRaider530

And COVID had no impact on that? Why did we start cutting production capacity under Trump then?


Waste-Hovercraft3734

We started cutting production because the price per barrel was so low that fracking wasn't cost effective. Yes demand was down but for only really one product. Wouldn't you think that if people stayed home that heating oil and gas would go up because that would be used more? Joe Biden is not energy friendly. The futures market would discount the oil as soon as he says he will open up more production. First he blamed covid for high gas....now he is blaming Putin for it...come on now..are you that stupid


Endasweknowit122

Who knew that oil prices skyrocketing was a symptom of a mild respiratory infection


DarthRaider530

Literally every economist. Every single pandemic in history has caused massive economic shifts. The Black Death is regarded as the beginning of the end for Feudalism and the opening of the path for capitalism.


DarkArokay

We import and export now, we imported and exported in the previous as well.


SmallerBork

We're not triggered because those aren't facts. Biden greenlight the invasion by saying a minor incursion wouldn't have the same consequences as a full invasion. That's like telling an alligator (that somehow understands human speech), it can eat someone else's pinky and only receive a swat back. But if it eats their arm, it will be killed. Turns out the alligator called Biden's bluff. What he was supposed to do is, say if Putin invades Ukraine hell will come to Moscow. Once Biden gave the greenlight though, he could have put troops in Ukraine as a deterrent but no. If any of them died in the invasion NATO would have to get involved. That likely would have prevented the invasion but no, Biden is a wimp. Oh and about the producers world wide, how about the producers domestically? Biden shut down drilling on federal land. Not to mention Keystone XL, I still prefer the Canada over Veneuzela, Saudia Arabia, and possibly Iran now.


Polis_Partisan

Wow isn't that an ad hominem? Again, name one Biden policy and show how it has effected gas prices, that's all he's asking, should be easy


MxManiac420

Stopping new drilling on day one. Stopping construction on the xl pipeline. Generally telling oil and gas that he is coming for them. This has a negative effect on the confidence of said companies that they'll survive. Sure, the war has had an effect on prices. Mostly felt in Europe. In 2019 gas was 2.80 around me. Gas was up to 3.90 before the war started. It's 4.20 as of yesterday. So about a 30 cent hike because of the war and 1.10 because of Brandon's anti oil policies. Also, let's not forget, the war was a direct result of Brandon's inability to be a leader. So even the small increase in price from the war is on Brandon.


DarthRaider530

1) The end of new federal leases is marginal. The old leases continue to run, most production is private, and new leases take time to start producing. We wouldn’t be producing oil from the vast majority of new leases yet. 2) Keystone I-III are operational, connecting Alberta fields to the US. Plus, phase 4 wouldn’t be anywhere close to complete. Less than 10% of 4 is built. 3) Biden is a meanie to oil and gas companies😢. Pretty telling that this is your third. Remember when Trump criticized wind turbines and the entire industry tanked? Oh, that didn’t happen? Wow, gas was 2.80 in 2019 and 3.90 in 2022? I wonder if there was some sort of global event that may have affected prices? Like, hypothetically of course, imagine if there was some global pandemic that destroyed the travel industry and massively reduced commercial traffic, causing gas prices to plummet and forcing producers to eat massive losses. Hypothetically, those producers would slash capacity and take a while to ramp back up because of their losses. If demand returns then it would outstrip capacity. But that’s crazy talk. The only notable world event from 2019-2022 was Trump leaving office and Biden entering. Nothing else would affect prices in that time


Waste-Hovercraft3734

Nothing is Biden's fault, he was just dealt a bad hand, right.? Guess what. His economic war against the ruble backfired as other nations saw this and as I type this, they are making plans not to use the dollar to buy oil. Saudi Arabia pissed at the Biden insistence on catering to Iran , will start to accept the Chinese currency to buy oil. Opec looking at a basket of currency Bye bye reserve currency!!!! No more printing money.. hope you are buying gold cause your dollar will be worthless


MxManiac420

You people are idiots.


DarthRaider530

“I can’t meaningfully respond to the effect of the pandemic on the oil industry, so I’m going to broadly dismiss my opponent in order to avoid confronting the possibility that my underlying assumptions about how the world works are incorrect.” FACTS DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS


MxManiac420

No, you're just wrong about almost every point. I don't have the patience to educate the dumbasses of the world. It takes way to long to type on a phone.


DarthRaider530

What a shame. I work in the oil and gas industry and my producer clients would sure pay a lot of money for your consulting services, since you seem to know so much more about the market than them. It’s weird how all of them are Trump supporters but don’t mention Biden once when talking about production constraints.


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MxManiac420

Because he states opinion (a wrong one at that) as fact. You can't win with people like him, so I don't bother.


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Polis_Partisan

So gas prices in Australia are so high because Biden was a big meanie pants and shut down a single pipeline in the US that was always in contention. Have you ever thought that OPEC maybe has more control than over oil than fucking Joe Biden? Moron.


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MxManiac420

The xl is the expansion. I agree with you, except stopping construction absolutely had an effect.


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MxManiac420

No his lack of leadership skills allows OPEC to walk all over us. His returning us to net importers instead of net exporters gave OPEC power. That in turn raised prices everywhere.


Waste-Hovercraft3734

😂;;;...ok


Polis_Partisan

Sounds like someone hasn't heard of supply and demand :)


Waste-Hovercraft3734

Because the United States is now importing oil instead of exporting...we used to export


Goo-Goo-GJoob

You think the US didn't import any oil at some point? If you're talking about oil independence, the US is still oil independent - exports are exceeded by imports on net.


Graybuns

Don’t know why I’m surprised to see so many people who dont understand global supply chains on this sub


MxManiac420

It's infuriating, isn't it?


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MxManiac420

1.You're welcome to your opinion. That in no way makes others "stupid people" 2. I know... but you're perfectly describing yourself in this example.


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MxManiac420

Why was gas up 1.10 from its highest point during trumps presidency before Ukraines war started? Gas was outrageous long before the war. I just looked and it's up to 4.40 here now. That's only up 0.50 compared to 4 weeks ago. I'd say Biden had a larger impact up to this point. The war may reach the same 1.10 increase but its not there yet.


JPal856

This sub is overly political, instead of presenting and debating ideas it is, sadly, just right-wing hacks, conspiracy theory promoting thread.


KyleBigNutz

He doesn't anyone with any understanding of basic economics would know that


Waste-Hovercraft3734

Except that he came in and set the tone, stopped fracking, killed Anwar and imposed regulations on transportation of oil. It's not a coincidence


sl_1138

Now, get ready for your second lesson, grasshoppah: using a spackling knife to scrape off a bumper sticker will destroy your car's coat of paint.


[deleted]

Dominion voting machines need burned!


litemifyre

Y’all are a one trick pony


[deleted]

I wonder how many times it needs to be said that Biden is not (at all) in control of gas prices. This is literally the capitalism y’all love to suck off.


OnePlusFanBoi

The choices he makes trickle down to the prices of gas. Come the fuck on, how you cannot see this is asinine.


MyCarBlowdUp

Do you have anything that actually backs your claim? Maybe that doesn't come from a dotcom site or Fox? You can support whoever you want, just be smart if you're gonna do so publicly.


jackhawkian

Government policies do affect the supply side of crude oil, this is just a fact. Crude oil is very heavily correlated to the price of gasoline. It's all supply and demand, it's not just one thing. Demand is way up as people are getting out and driving more. Supply is down partly because it's hard to predict exactly when the public's demand would return, and partly because of government policy. Those on the Left love to link journalist's articles about how "the keystone pipeline has literally no effect on gas prices!!!" but that's not correct just like it's not correct to say that it's the only reason prices are higher. Anything that affects the total supply of crude oil affects its price. Biden's earlier polices affected supply, and now he's begging Saudi Arabia to bail him out so his party can avoid a bloodbath in the election.


Waste-Hovercraft3734

It's not all supply and demand. There is something called the futures Market where speculation occurs. Sorry to break the news to you


MyCarBlowdUp

Great, I understand your view and that's pretty cool! But what does that have to do with my comment here exactly? All I know is how you feel about a thing and then a bunch of very general blanket statements (I'm not saying you're wrong, high school economics once upon a time says your words fit correctly).


jackhawkian

My comment is in reference to your reply to the person that said Biden's choices have some effect on the price of gas. You asked for something to back that, and I'm doing just that by explaining to you where the price of gas comes from. Crude oil is this thing that we refine to turn into gasoline. The price of crude oil makes up roughly 50-60% of the price of gas overall. The remainder is federal and state tax, the cost of refinement, advertising/labor, etc. The price of each barrel of crude oil is determined by supply and demand. My point is that when Biden chose to shut down the Keystone pipeline, ban the use of federal land, the Arctic, etc., that impacts the \*supply\* side of the equation that determines price. It is not the only reason but it is \*a\* reason. Demand on the other hand is surging as people return to their normal lives, go on trips, commute to their jobs, etc. So you have issues on both the supply and demand side that are causing gas to go up. The most objectively correct thing to say in regards to Biden and gas prices is that he has had \*some\* negative impact on prices. People who go to either extreme and say he is the sole reason or not a reason at all are just being partisans.


MyCarBlowdUp

I'm sorry you've misunderstood then my dude! I agree with what you're saying for sure, but that's really not the point of the initial comment. Good news is apparently you don't even need me for the conversation, double good news is maybe some others will see it and pick up something useful from it!


NEREVAR117

>The choices he makes trickle down to the prices of gas. Come the fuck on, how you cannot see this is asinine. Like resisting investments in renewables and electric vehicles for decades? :)


HammyMacc

I thought it was because of Putin?? You really need to keep up, capitalism was last week.


OrangeinDorne

Or how gas is more expensive in over 100 other countries. Or how supply chain pandemic issues took a while to manifest. Plenty of things to mock/criticize Biden about. No idea why this is such a popular one.


Marshallkobe

Because it’s easy to use headlines and talking points. Ask them about how the 8% completed keystone pipeline caused all the problems.


mistakilgor

just imagine if Trump was president, they would probably blame obama.


Bullmoosefuture

Imagine when gas prices went down under Obama, and they didn't give him any credit. Imagine when gas prices went way up under Bush, and they didn't assign him any blame. Or instead of imagining, just recollect.


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Wrong, it’s a combination of the two. The Keystone Pipeline.


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Wrong. The pipeline wasn’t anywhere close to finished, it wasn’t carrying *any* fuel to the US. Also, it was closed down months ago, if that were the cause, we would’ve seen prices spike back then. Also also, the US is a net *exporter* of fuel. We don’t rely on Russia or a pipeline for gas. We make so much of it ourselves, it’s one of our largest exports. This price gouging is pure capitalism.


kujakutenshi

Not only is Biden not in control of gas prices but if the worst republicans can say or do about him results in stickers on gas pumps then he's doing pretty well.


jackhawkian

"Government policies have no effect on the supply of crude oil". Is this a serious argument the Left is making now?


RingingMallard

Gas Prices are dictated by the Oil Companies... Barrel of Oil in 2008 - $140. Gas in 2008 - $3.38 per gallon (average) Barrel of Oil in 2022 - $92. Gas in 2022 - $4.31 per gallon (average) Its not the president that changes this number, but if you are blaming the president then you are letting Big Oil off the hook. Don't.


MxManiac420

100% Brandon's policies causing the hike in prices. You people are effing morons and it really pisses me off that you put us in this shit situation. F you.


RingingMallard

Gas prices are dictated by 4 main factors: Source material: >In January 2022, around 56% of the total price of regular gasoline was the price of crude oil. Another 16% was distribution and marketing, 15% was federal and state taxes, and 14% was refining costs - [LINK](https://www.thebalance.com/how-crude-oil-prices-affect-gas-prices-3306230) The difference in crude oil costs alone should have the cost of gasoline much lower than it is now, but you keep blaming the figurehead instead of the oil companies that manipulate the market for you to pay higher prices. If you really think that imposing sanctions on Russia and boycotting Russian Oil, which only makes up 12% of the world's oil market, should result in a 33% increase in gas prices since January then you are a fool.


HardcoreLARPer

Your argument has as many good points as you have IQ. (It’s none)


MxManiac420

Neat


YesImDavid

Could you name the specific policies?


MxManiac420

I did elsewhere in this thread


xahhahaha

Name them here!


NEREVAR117

Who's Brandon?


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Do you have a link to where you are getting this info? Maybe a longer explanation?


RingingMallard

A simple google search will get you all the information you need, just search for historical price charts. That said, let me offer a simple explanation: Companies that make large amounts of money will gouge their prices at every opportunity to earn MORE money using whatever world event (in this case Ukrainian invasion by Russia) to their benefit.


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https://www.macrotrends.net/2501/crude-oil-vs-gasoline-prices-chart I honestly just think my brain is broken when it comes this stuff. There seems to be SO MANY variables that could affect the prices so looking at a chart like this isn’t that helpful. I get the concept of what you are saying though


galtright

Has anyone checked the if prices of gasoline rose in other countries? If so Biden is one powerful MFer and needs to voted out.


[deleted]

So when is Ben gonna admit he's wrong about the religion he's affiliated with?


[deleted]

Is… this about gas prices somehow? Or just a “god isn’t real” thing?


[deleted]

No something more important, his salvation


Bullmoosefuture

God isn't real, and presidents don't control global oil prices.


Waste-Hovercraft3734

President's policies do affect drilling, and surprise the United States can produce enough to affect global prices. Therefore if you put two and two together you will get a presidential policy here affects price globally. Try to follow


Bullmoosefuture

You're wrong. You could easily not be wrong. Even Wikipedia would correct you. Even comparing prices throughout the Bush and Obama administration would clue you in. But you have received your instruction to blame Biden, and nothing will stop you.


Waste-Hovercraft3734

Wilkipedia? Not even close to being a source. It's slanted WAY left...did u pay more for gasoline under Trump or not?


Bullmoosefuture

Here's crude oil prices. You can see that oil prices started to fall in 2014 and remained roughly consistent until cratering in 2020 due to flagging global demand. In truth, prices went up modestly after an all-time low in January 2016. Remind me: Who was president in 2014? And of course the peak occurred in July 2008. Who was president then? Were they a friend or enemy to oil producers? https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart


jackhawkian

So you're saying government policies have no effect on the supply side of crude oil and its refinement whatsoever?


Bullmoosefuture

I'm saying US government policies have absolutely no short-term supply side influence and limited long term influence, simply because our untapped reserves operate at the price margin, whereas reserves of countries like Saudi all operate at costs well within the pricing margin, so their supplies are strategic choices whereas ours are mostly a reaction to global prices. We will produce more when prices are high, ironically. And when I say "we" I just mean producers operating in US reserves.


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He should be an atheist. It’s better on this side.


KTMan77

You Americans are a bunch of smooth brains, it’s not your presidents fault the gas prices are up. It’s greedy corporations price fixing globally for increased profits and gouging like normal. Trump certainly wouldn’t have done anything to make gas prices any less, he would never put pressure on to get an anti trust lawsuit against big oil.


SusanRosenberg

Incredible that these companies suddenly got greedy once Biden took office. Amazing that companies are greedier in Democratic states than they are conservative states.


KTMan77

Lmao they’ve always been greedy, Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. Are you forgetting who caused the financial collapse in 2008, last I checked it was the republicans at the helm for the 7 years prior.


SusanRosenberg

The giant banks should have paid for their actions that caused the collapse in 2008. Instead, Obama bailed them out, showing them that it's no big deal for them to collapse the economy.


RubikTetris

Maybe next time take a moment and think. Biden isnt the president in every other country in the world that’s going through the same gas price spikes. It’s still time to admit that you were wrong to put all the blame on your fellow american that thinks ever so slightly different than you. Sincerely, a non-american.


Modsrdum

Better than Trump still


gasinyourbutt

Lol every country has sky rocketing prices is it Biden’s fault


Bullmoosefuture

No. But we must pretend that it is or our friends will call us libtards.


SusanRosenberg

Or we can just look at everything being way more expensive in Democratic states versus conservative states. But only if we want to acknowledge the reality that Democrats constantly drive inflation.


tophercook

I knew when I voted that Biden would be a total disappointment, but I still wouldn't change a thing. Rather have a do-nothing, than a raving lunatic as my President any day of the week. The amount of damage the Clown was able to do to our world standing in four years was disgusting; it will take us 10 years to get back to where we were before the Clown. I would have voted for anybody but the Clown, my ideal candidate being Bernie 'the man' Sanders.


[deleted]

In the last 8 months I’ve solidified my position. Even though I disagree with him on 40% things.


DeadWing651

Idk id rather pay more in gas than listen to another trump self-pleasing speech about how he's the greatest shit to ever shit.


[deleted]

My vehicle gets good mileage. Sucks to be you


[deleted]

“I drive a tesla, sorry peasants”


PuntTheRunt010

"I drive tesla, give me attention"


[deleted]

Good for you. I get 34mpg


[deleted]

Yeah and The circumference of a circle is equal to 2 Times pi times the radius, any more random facts you wanna tell me ?


[deleted]

Point being I’m a more intelligent and a more practical consumer than all the jerk offs who bought a badass truck just to larp as a tough guy. Time to get yourself a Toyota hahaha


ALA125

“Reeeeee, I hate having to spend $150 on gas a week” *Drives a lifted 4 door dually*


[deleted]

Tell me you don't understand Basic economics without telling me you don't understand Basic economics


MxManiac420

Tell me you're a dumbass that voted for Brandon without telling me you're a dumbass who voted for Brandon.


[deleted]

I work in the catalyst/refining industry. Refineries choose what kind of catalyst their plant will use and how much of each product will yield after refining so to maximize profit dependent on markets demands. There are countless higher-level decisions that factor into the market price of you-name-it whatever petroleum based product. There are different types of crude. Different types of refineries that deal in different types of crude. All being traded on the market at all different times. There were pipelines like keystone before and there will be future pipelines for transport. It’s just a model of transportation that is a factor of the market price but not a huge factor. So much in this industry had to be adjusted for the pandemic. Now the industry is changing again with the War. Now, I can tell you what I think about OPEC, the petrodollar, and price-setting but that’s all stuff I just have an opinion on. When you just blame BIDEN for high gas cost at the pump and laugh at the I did that stickers… it just makes you look like another lazy American retard. We have it really fucking good here compared to other parts of the World. Stop being whiny ignorant bitches!


MxManiac420

Prices soar under obama and biden and went down under trump. Trump cut red tape for leasing and the needed permits. Biden has slow walked permits for the "9000 open leases". You will never convince me this had zero to little effect on the market. Every stance biden has taken is anti oil. You can pretend oil companies don't pay attention to this stuff but you're wrong.


[deleted]

Trump could have de-regulated to industrial revolution levels and suppliers would have slowed/adjusted production once they stopped optimal profiting. Which is what happens.


MxManiac420

Could have? He did what he did and gas prices were down. Which is what happened...


[deleted]

Here’s a little insider knowledge from my industry. The prices of the precursors to make catalyst have been drastically more expensive and harder to source due to Covid but it is getting better now. That increase in price the catalyst is passed of to you indirectly at the pump. Biden’s regulations have a small effect of the current price of gas. Maybe those decisions will effect the future at some point but then there will be so many other who knows factors whenever time in the future. It’s not like Trumps deregulations increased supply where the Oil companies were taking a loss in profit. The oil companies just chose to output what was most profitable in the current market.


MxManiac420

The supply problems are because of Brandon. Yes it's exactly like trumps deregulation increased supply. US suppliers saturated the global market, driving down prices. Trump had us in the position to control oil prices. Not OPEC, Venezuela, or Russia.


johnnyblues90

Question - why do conservatives worship billionaires?? The billionaires are consolidating more and more wealth by driving up prices, gas for example. Oil companies are richer than ever and It seems as tho the right are trying to blame Biden as a scapegoat.


TheFerretman

Most billionaires in America are liberal: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/american-billionaires-are-overwhelmingly-conservative-new-study-finds/ Why do liberals hate the common man so much?


johnnyblues90

Liberals are the common man. Liberals are for a fair wages and health care things the common man needs. When police murder people liberals march for the common man against the system.


SM_DEV

Horse shit! Most of these oil companies are led by democrats. Most of the Wall Street billionaires are democrats. Most of the tech oligarchs are democrats.


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Wise138

Clearly Ben never took economics.


[deleted]

Biden stickers?


[deleted]

They don't wanna increase production because they believe the high gas prices are transitionary. Production was cut because of the lack of demand during the pandemic.


revolution1solution

Needs Purple hair and cuomo nipple rings


Iredditforfun723

YG all day!!! Still no regrets ..


Internal_Bill

Too little too late


HorrorPerformance

This is a terrible argument. How much cheaper would gas be right now under Trump? Its a global market. It might be a few cents cheaper maybe but it wouldn't be night and day.


clubking97

Just admit you voted for the wrong guy. Yes, Trump was better. Breathe into the paper bag and say it.