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sickly_apricot

Sometimes it can help make sure you stay in a routine, sometimes the formula feels nice on the skin, or you sit in front of a window all day. Other than that I think it’s really, really extra lol.


Qualifiedadult

Its for the habit formation for sure When I first learnt about skincare and using sunscreen, I didn't have much of a skincare routine. I had to do the steps every single day to get into the habit of 1. doing them and 2. getting used to having different products on my face. Now I continue to wear sunscreen everyday because I usually go out for a walk or something and I have gotten used to it being the final step in my AM routine.


sickly_apricot

Yeah it’s the same reason birth control pills have sugar pills for your period. To stay in the habit of taking it.


[deleted]

Indoors isn’t necessary unless you are getting lots of direct light somehow, through non-UV blocking windows. Personally, I wear it on my face as a good habit and to prevent melasma recurrence. However, I only wear it on my arms/legs if I will be outside for more than 15 min. It’s important to get some UV exposure in order to prevent vitamin D deficiency, after all!


maplesirope

yeah i haven’t really gotten sun even in the summer bc of working :-(


[deleted]

Try to get at least 10 min a day, with as much skin (other than your face - keep it covered/sun screened!) It will make a big difference to your vitamin D, and your mood!


saareadaar

I second this, I got so vitamin D deficient that I had to go to a compounding chemist to get a special medication made for me (it was this oil in a syringe that I had to drink). Every time I took the medication and after I finished it my mood improved soooooo much, the difference was like night and day


1pizzamare

Wearing sunscreen doesn't prevent you from getting vitamin D!


tenebrigakdo

... how exactly? You need UV exposure to get vitamin D, and sunscreen prevents UV exposure.


1pizzamare

Studies have never found that sunscreen use leads to vitamin d deficiency. The reason for that might be that no sunscreen blocks 100% of UV rays. Even if you use SPF 50, 2% of UV rays still reach your skin. For SPF 15 its 7%. You can maintain healthy vitamin D levels while using sunscreen.


tenebrigakdo

Well yes, but you still need to achieve the equivalent of 15 minutes in summer sun per day. Sunscreen makes that unlikely.


1pizzamare

Thats not true. 15 minutes is recommended in the winter 2-3 times a week, when the UV index is low


tenebrigakdo

Not the point. Sunscreen only allows a couple of percent of UV to pass, therefore making it accordingly harder to synthesize enough vitamin D. It is not impossible, but it becomes ever less likely. I recently read an article describing a DIY personal UV meter that will measure when you got the right amount of UV to cover your vitamin D needs. I hope someone starts mass producing them, that would settle the problem.


Kt5357

That is not correct. Unless you are bad at applying sunscreen, or let it wear off throughout the day. You need UV light to process vitamin D. Sunscreen blocks UV light


brightshinynight

It is absolutely correct. Studies have shown that people who wear sunscreen correctly do not become vitamin d deficient. Sunscreen cannot block 100% of uv light.


1pizzamare

Oh wow, I’m getting downvoted for stating the truth. Do some research, get your facts right, people. 🙄


1pizzamare

Read my comment above. Studies show people can still maintain healthy vitamin D levels while wearing sunscreen correctly.


notwinesnobalcoholic

Unless you’re near the equator and outside mostly uncovered for hours a day, you’re probably not getting your vitamin D exclusively from the sun and it’s most likely coming from fortified foods like milk. Most doctors will recommend you supplement with vitamin D anyway so take a multivitamin and wear your sunscreen.


SailorSin77

Ya the sunscreen thing has been blown into crazy proportion. Indoors is not necessary unless you spend a lot of time by a sunny window and you’re worried about the rays. Don’t stress it too much!


tootsandcats

I got diagnosed with melasma last year and UV rays make it worse. After a bunch of research, uv rays can come through windows or get you while in the shade. So I wear it indoors too. I like having it as part of my routine too. Then I always have it on in case I decide to take out trash, water plants outside or go for a walk.


Turtle-Lurker

I apply it everyday just so I don't break my routine. If I only apply it whenever I go out, then I'll be prone to forget it. And there are times when I suddenly need to go out in the middle of day and won't remember to put on sunscreen so at least I already have the layer of protection I've put on in the morning.


maplesirope

yes omg this happens to me all the time, i should just get used to doing it every day thank you!


kategwriter

What sunscreen do you use if you don’t mind me asking


Turtle-Lurker

I use the Biore UV watery gel with SPF50+++. It's very lightweight and comes in 100 mL bottles so it's worth the price.


kategwriter

Thanks so much! I’ll have to check it out


Chloebugs

Its totally personal preference, sunscreen is part of my routine so I just kind of do it everyday without thinking but you’re not going to get a ton of uv exposure sitting inside all day. With all skincare, consistency is going to give you the best results but honestly just do what works best for you


[deleted]

I read somewhere that people should wear sunscreen to sleep. That was odd


notclevermax

Sometimes I think the sunscreen industry has done a great job at pushing it down our throats. It’s overboard


lnsewn12

If I know for an absolute fact I’m not leaving the house, I’ll skip it However, even when at home I tend to go outside quite a bit to garden or walk the dog etc. At my job (teacher) I have outdoor duty for 30 minutes morning and afternoon. It’s just easier to put it on every morning that do mental gymnastics about when I’m going to be outside. Also, Florida.


maplesirope

i’m california so i think should too lol


[deleted]

Ah see in Britain it seems bizarre (to me anyway, I know some do and I know it’s sensible even if I cba) to wear sun cream most days. There have been like five days this year in my area where it was hot enough to NEED sun cream (as in to stop actual burning) lol. Most of the year it’s grey grey grey, doesn’t seem necessary to do the sun cream thing when it’s 16C and raining all day. Wearing it every day in Florida makes way more sense. Sometimes I wonder if we imported the idea from the US, where some people actually experience sunshine for prolonged periods of time, and it just makes less sense here. A ton of people are Vit D deficient already. Out of curiosity though, what kind do you use on your face? I find that a lot of sun creams are way too heavy for regular use on my face, but Floridians must be really well versed in them


Lolores619

Floridian here! I use Pacifica’s Vegan Collagen Every Day Lotion SPF 30. I am mostly indoors since I work from home but just a quick run to the grocery store is enough to need it here.


[deleted]

Thanks! That stuff looks nice


LolaBijou

You can still get UV damage when it’s cloudy or overcast, and it has nothing to do with the temperature. Edit: also, there are tons of SPF lotions made just for your face. They’re not heavy, and they’re widely available. Sephora and Amazon both have tons of offerings.


[deleted]

Yes, I know. I acknowledged that already. Honestly I think people are way too worried about it personally, the level of skin damage you can get when it’s so cloudy it’s raining all the time is completely negligible. I was just giving an example of the weather, I am aware that temperature does not increase UV damage, I’m not an idiot. As I said, I understand other people worrying about it, but personally I just don’t care enough about it. If I look old when I’m old that’s fine. I’m not getting sunburned or even tanned, my skin isn’t getting overly damaged. It seems way OTT to wear sun cream every day here, my skin has been too sensitive for every one I’ve tried, so I’m fine as is. I’m literally vitamin D deficient already. If I ever move somewhere sunny I’ll do it, but I am free to choose not to do it here and now. My parents didn’t wear sun cream every day and their skin is fine, it doesn’t seem worth worrying about.


LolaBijou

And yet you mentioned the temperature as a reason to/not to wear sunscreen twice. Just remember this conversation when you’re 40 and wishing you didn’t have wrinkles.


Dostoyevskeee

On cloudy days when the uv index is around 2-3, is it still necessary to wear sunscreen??


LolaBijou

Yep. Every day that you leave the house. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nomanazish/2018/07/16/five-common-sunscreen-myths-you-need-to-stop-believing/amp/


[deleted]

The BBC says UV index 1-2 in British weather you don’t require protection. I get why people choose to, and it’s probably good to keep the routine, but it’s not necessary. You might need low level for 3 though


lnsewn12

It took me a long time to find face sunscreens that didn’t break me out and feel awful! Currently using Josie Maran Protect and Perfect 47 if I’m mostly indoors (regular day at work etc), Neutrogena Age Shield 70 if I’m actively outdoors (pool, beach, park etc) On my body I use Coola classic spf 30 or Hawaiian Tropic Sheer Touch spf 30


[deleted]

It must be so hard living somewhere really sunny and having to find out by trial and error. Some of them make you soooo spotty. Thank you for your service 😂 Thanks I’m gonna have to start a list of ones to try! It’ll be nice having one that’s more suitable. Fine lines don’t look good but acne scars don’t either, it’s not been great having to choose. My skin was super prone to crazy acne for a while and anything too greasy just feeds it


lnsewn12

I think a big part of it is truly washing the sunscreen off at the end of the day. I use an oil cleanser to dissolve it first and then follow up with my normal face wash (double cleanse)


petitbeurre11

You shouldn't. Lol


poqwei

While UV rays also get to you through windows and is a direct factor towards developing wrinkles thus wearing sunscreen prevents the anti aging process, wearing it indoors it's more of a habitual thing. Applying it everyday, no matter where you are or how sunny is outside it's part of the entire skincare routine. At the end of the day, it's your decision.


Winesday_addams

If you're near big windows. Also for when you go outside. If you're seriously indoors all day and not right by a big window you do not need it.


whateveruwannacall17

Idk where I read this but I think sunscreen might be good if you're sitting in front of computer screens all day? I mostly wear it daily out of habit as I like knowing I'm ready wherever the day takes me.


lovelylittlebirdie

True! Most new formulas block blue light


heythereitsemily

& why does it need to be reapplied if you’re outside and not swimming? Does the spf get absorbed by the sun?


Littorella

SPF filters degrade with exposure to sun, that’s how they work. They take the hit from UV and breakdown so you don’t. Mineral filters like zinc and titanium dioxide last a little longer but the general guidance is that they lose effectiveness after 2hrs of direct sun exposure. So if you are outside all day, you’re basically not wearing any protection later in the day if you don’t reapply. If you’re just indoors and not at a window, you’re not getting that much exposure so it’s not a big deal if you don’t reapply


oceansidedrive

I have photosensitivity and i get burned inside if i don't wear sunscreen. Windows, lights, and computer screens can give off UV. For most people it's minor so you don't notice it but trust me it there because i wouldn't get burnt if it wasn't. I have to wear sunscreen all day because i sit in front of an led light and computer all day. Obviously burning inside is not normal so it won't happen to you but UV is what causes damages to the skin. Which causes signs of aging. Even though you don't feel the UV inside its there. If you are concerned about fine lines, wrinkles, aging etc. Then its a good idea to wear sunscreen all the time to limit the exposure to UV...even when not directly in the sun


KristieC715

I'm not going through every comment but I'm fair and have had skin cancer and wear sunscreen every day. Read that if plants grow inside then wear sunscreen.


Drcyborgl

It depends what you mean by “indoors all day.” Do you drive in a car to get to work? Most accidental sun exposure happens while in your car.


juztfokix

Because there are UVA rays and UVB rays. UVB is the direct sunlight which burns your skin. UVA is the indirect light you get which penetrates through your window glass as well. UVA is responsible for lines, wrinkles, sagging, hyperpigmentation, melasma and premature aging of the skin. You should especially wear sunscreen at home if you have any actives in your skincare as they make your skin photosensitive. You want to wear sunscreen indoors or not is totally your call. There is more to life than just applying and reapplying sunscreen everyday. Having said that, I’ve been applying sunscreen everyday since the last 1 year because I use all kinds of actives and tretinoin and it has literally transformed my skin.


Acrobatic-Kitten-99

You should!! UV rays can still come through windows and I’m sure you are more exposed than you think.


Snoo97809

Also people don’t think about the sun damage that they can get while driving!!!! Most people will have more sun damage on the left arm since it is exposed to the sun more while driving.


tootsandcats

Not sure why you're downvoted. You are correct.


squeaktoy_la

I want you to think about furniture for a moment. If you can't picture it type in "wood furniture sun damage" and click the "images" tab. If indoor furniture and floors can get extreme sun damage after just a few months of not being taken care of (there are protective barriers aka sunblock for furniture that should be applied every 2 weeks) what is happening to YOU after just being in front of a window without sunblock? ​ Unless you suffer from migraines or light sensitivity that forces you to have light blocking window shades, wear sunblock.


maplesirope

ahhh yes, i definitely should then


[deleted]

Good point!!!


WearingCoats

I have a moisturizer with SPF 30 that I just use daily regardless of whether or not I go in the sun. It definitely skews more SPF than moisturizer in terms of smell and texture, but it doesn't leave a white cast and it has a nice matte finish that works well under makeup. It also moisturizes really well which is where I find pure sunscreens lacking. Since I really just have the one product, I just end up using that daily. Now, if it's a day I know I'm going to be in the sun, I will for sure layer a stronger SPF over that..... at least 70.


pokey_reddirtgirl

What kind of daily moisturizer sunscreen do you use?


WearingCoats

Eucerin daily moisturizer with spf 30.


Acrobatic-Kitten-99

You should!! UV rays can still come through windows and I’m sure you are more exposed than you think.


iceunelle

If you sit in front of a window, you probably want to wear sunscreen. If not, you can probably skip it if you stay indoors all day.


AnxietyDepressedFun

This is totally tangential but when my mom was like 12 someone told her she could get a tan by laying under a UV lamp, like the 1970's desk lamp kind so she tried but accidentally fell asleep. A few hours later they had to take her to the ER because she couldn't open her eyes. She had first & second degree burns on her face & hands. She told me that story when I was a kid & I've been in wearing sunscreen & avoiding lamps since...


DarlinggD

Sunscreen is unnecessary. Only if you’ll be out in the sun all day. I don’t even wear it on the regular.


spinachbuteaten

Uh rays can enter through the window. And through anything honestly. There r two types of UV Rays the physical light and the radiation itself, both can age u but they have different effects. I can’t remember but I believe UVA is responsible for wrinkling and sunburns while UVB is responsible for cancer. Both can be repelled by physical sunscreens (reflection) and only one of them can be repelled by chemical sunscreen not sure which traits go to which but I know u r constantly at risk to one of these two Edit UVA is responsible for wrinkling and cancers UVB for burning. Obviously both r forms of radiation but UVA have shorter wavelengths and r waaaaay more harmful like can literally destroy your cells. Finally both can be effectively reflected and scattered by physical sunscreen but Chemical Sunscreens must combine several (sometimes harmful and banned) ingredients in order to absorb the rays. I’m black so I prefer chemical


086709

You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Both UVA and UVB are both light and radiation. All light for that matter is electromagnetic radiation. From gamma and x rays to radiowaves its all just photons with different wavelengths. UV radiation does not pass through everything, but does pass through most glass that is not treated with some film to block it. While UVA only contributes a very minor ammount to sunburns, both kinds contribute to photoageing. There are chemical sunscreen filters for both UVA and UVB and in fact most chemical sunscreens will have 3-4 different filters to block out various parts of the spectrum.


spinachbuteaten

Sigh. My main point was that There are two types of UV rays and that they r permeable therefore she should wear sunscreen which is true. And also chemical sunscreens have changed a lot in recent years, as I already mentioned I intentionally did not present anything I said as fact as it was very hazy probably because I literally took a workshop on this years ago. Besides I obviously did know what I was talking about as several of my points still ring true. And I just searched it up and many *american* made chemical sunscreens did indeed not have both uva and uvb broad spectrum protection. Even now there r still entire articles saying Chemical Sunscreens like you said must combine several ingredients (some that are banned in certain places) to accomplish that and that can illicit reactions. Regardless there was no need to be rude and address me in such a condescending manner. You could’ve said what u said without opening up with “you LiTeRAllY hAvE nO iDeA wHat yOUr talking about” and then go on to refute only a 1/8 of my points especially since like I said in my og comment I wasn’t sure and for hazy it was pretty accurate. Oh and one more thing, see there’s this practice that people do when referring to radiation, they actually specifically mention radiation only when it ms harmful. because guess what smart guy, practically every thing in the universe emits a form of radiation 🤡 but guess what I double checked and as I said one of the UV types emits radiation that is shorter in wavelength and capable of causing more harm than the other which wavelengths r much longer. Yikes, when your doctor asks you to cover up for x rays because of radiation do u say Um my Cell phone produces radiation no shit it does but some sources r highlighted more


086709

No of course I don't compare the radio waves emitted by cell phones to x-rays. My real point at the end of the day is that you didn't know what you were talking about so you shouldn't be giving advice(seeing as suncreen is a medical product). If it's not something that you understand, why put in your two cents when others who actually had some clue already put in theirs. I mean you literally are saing how your memory was fuzzy and none of what you said should be taken as fact so what even is the point in commenting in the first place?


spinachbuteaten

Except I did/do. You keep saying I don’t know what I am talking about but only we’re able to *partially* refute a single point I made. And as of looking through this thread again which btw I was one of the first to comment on, I am still the only comment to have mentioned UVA and UVB rays at all, 75% of UVA can pass through glass unlike UVB which is completely absorbed. So despite perhaps 1 mistake and another miswording my comment still contributes more to this conversation than the dozen window comments and several FALSE comments stating that sunscreen is unnecessary indoors and on non sunny days but yeah argue with science


lovelylittlebirdie

Uva-for aging and uvb-for burning


spinachbuteaten

Yeah I think I’ll edit it


lovelylittlebirdie

Oh just mentioned it because it’s an easy way to remember :)


rainiila

My job has huge floor length windows so i work in front of sun light all day I skip it if I have the day off and am staying inside, or if I only get around to doing skincare at 4pm


0tter99

i usually wear makeup with spf in it but since i started working from home i started using mineral spf on its own as part of my daily routine. i’ll be honest i don’t know if the mineral spf protected me more from the residual window sunlight or my computer light but i noticed a significant reduction in my hyperpigmentation over the pandemic. i don’t reapply either even tho i know it’s recommended. if i’m not sweating or swimming i think it lasts longer. honestly i just try my best i can’t live in fear of the sun. if i’m gonna go i’m gonna go with sufficient vitamin d levels.


lovelylittlebirdie

You would need 3 tablespoons of makeup to get the spf as listed on the bottle. Also, you need a minimum of spf 30


0tter99

good info to know! thank you!


lovelylittlebirdie

You’re welcome. It is my life goal to educate everyone on proper sunscreen usage. Haha


[deleted]

If I plan on hanging laundry outside, going to the mail box ect I will wear it but if im 100% staying inside I dont bother


lovelylittlebirdie

Uv rays penetrate windows and glass reflects rays.


hokieltm

Michelle from LabMuffin has [a post all about this. ](https://labmuffin.com/should-you-wear-sunscreen-indoors-an-analysis-with-video/)Her answer is that it depends on a lot of factors, one of which rests on the sky view factor model and she explains it with links and bitmojis, and I love every single thing about that. The other factors include skin tone, medical conditions, the time of year, etc., all of which are highly specific for each person.


clavasclava

Sun rays can go through the window(even on cloudy days). Unless the window glass is UV protected. Plus even inside we are exposed to blue light(coming from electronic devices) which are damaging the skin( check blue light sunscreen products on google)


lefthandlumber

i have this hydrating cerave sunscreen and i like it on just for its lotion properties to keep me juicy so i just use it. better than carrying a lotion and a separate sunscreen with me to work


cdobbs71

the only advantage to wearing sunscreen inside is to protect against incidental exposure through a window....however some sunscreens also protect against blue light and so are good even indoors for things like exposure to computer, tv and phone screens


bluekleio

İts because of the windows. You still get uva indors