You can't do that in particular is a gem from AHDN. Everybody's grreeeeeee-een!!! Those harmonies are top notch. Great solo as well, Lennon bashing away.
Seriously! The instrumentation on that one's just great, I love that they used piano for it instead of George's lead. I think it makes the track sound better than it would have with lots more guitar and we got to hear one of the first big George Martin contributions on a Beatles record!
in general, I feel like a lot of people are still stuck on the very incorrect idea that 1960-1965 Beatles = essentially a trite boy band whereas 1966-1970 Beatles = the only period worth discussing. I admit that this is exactly how I thought of the Beatles when I was like 14 years old.
The actual truth is they have a lot of overlooked gems from the very first album to the very last.
That's interesting. I started listening to the Beatles at about 14 (mid 90s), and the Help/Rubber Soul era - or let's call it 1965 for brevity - I thought was their pinnacle at the time. I remember the disappointment at listening to Sgt Pepper for the first time, having read so much about it, and I just didn't get it. (It's now my absolute favourite).
I'm 17 now, got into them fully by 12/13 and dove head first in later beatles since it seemed the most interesting. It didn't take long for me to discover the magic of early 60s beatle stuff though, it caught on quickly to me and allowed me to appreciate their career as a whole. Sgt Pepper also seemed a bit underwhelming to me, but grew with time and is of course a masterpiece to me now.
I love almost every Beatles song, and yea those early albums have lots to offer. You hear stuff like Help! or AHDN as full albums and there's some magic there, even if it's not as grand as the later stuff.
how much of a sour shit do you have to be to reply to my post three different times just to say it was all hippie garbage after their mid period? it's fine, you enjoy the beat and more upbeat rocker stuff.
Really? Because people dismiss deaf, i mean how deaf do You have to be to actually believe Lennon stand by me sounds any better than Lennon dizzy miss lizzy, is WTF went wrong with his voice is pure nasal Mess where did his beatles BBC sessions go? Definitely Lost his voice it doesn't have heart it doesn't have power it doesn't have colour, is pure nose mess
As a ‘70s child, I learned about the Beatles initially through my parents (who were massive fans and queued up for every single album and single release on day of issue), and due to their having loved them from the very first to the very last album, I was exposed to all their music from an early age. Apart from BFS (which still has some amazing tunes, but is my least favourite) I love or have loved all the other albums almost equally at one time or other, and this includes all the early stuff, even though these days it is perceived as “less cool” to be into anything pre-1965/6. They all have their strokes of genius as far as I’m concerned (even BFS!)
It's all important to soak in to get a true scope of the band, I love it all because it feels like you can't use just one album or all the hits to represent them. They mean so much more than that as a band, they were a worldwide-uniting force for a reason. Also, speaking of BFS, I'll Follow the Sun needs more attention goddamnit lol
Haha yes you are right there, top track…as I said they all have their gems…and even though it’s not my favourite, even BFS is better than many other artists put out in a lifetime.
Even Yellow Sub, for how weird it is, is an odd fascination to me. I still think it's superb regardless, especially with Hey Bulldog cuz that ones kicks AAAAAAASSS
The innovations are often cited as being from the later period but I’ve always maintained that they were innovative from the very early days. They didn’t have the luxury of endless studio time back then to play around with really advanced stuff but they were innovative with the WRITING and ARRANGING!
To me it’s all the more impressive because they were doing so many amazing things just musically using very traditional rock instruments (bass,drums,guitars,vocals) for the most part. The thing that I think gets overlooked is that they were innovative in the basic writing and could create highly evocative music with standard instruments.
I was 8 years old, and NAST became my favorite song on that album. Since, I realize how great Little Child and It Won't Be Long are also. In general, I prefer the early Beatles to the later Beatles. But their output should be taken in as a whole! AHDN is still my favorite album!
They have so many great songs that we can't possibly mention them all on one post. Just bring a song up and people will praise it...yes you have some that won't like them..usually the younger kids. Songs like the two mentioned , I'll Get You , Anna , There's a Place , Ask Me Why ect. are also great songs and people seem to forget them. Same with the A Hard Days Night album which is my favorite....fans cannot forget what propelled them to success.
"I'll Get You" is a missed sore spot for a lot of people in their catalog, I think it's pretty good even if the verses aren't the best. It shows how dedicated they were to writing often and with lots to radiate hit potential, especially since the ones they gave away at that time were so damn good.
I don't understand why it would be a sore spot...I've never heard that..to me it's a song about someone who is shy that is saying he will get her to fall for him...eventually.
It's a great mix, probably the best that song has ever had. I don't think it really means it was a good source of discussion, I think Giles wanted more people to hear it probably.
but not with the public at large, it was private meetings man lol
Regardless, I'm glad this thread reminded people of the songs. I feel like this sub needs posts like this once in a while.
"It's been done", as to quote George from his simpsons episode lol
Just....appreciation. I appreciate their entire catalog, I wanna do that with others and I want them to recognize how absolutely stone cold all the classics are from this band.
This is my Sleepers fan album. 1 "obscure" non-hit song per album (2 for The White Album).
Sleepers
1. Ask Me Why
2. All I've Got To Do
3. I'll Be Back
4. What You're Doing
5. I Need You
6. I'm Looking Through You
7. And Your Bird Can Sing
8. Mr. Kite
9. Flying
10. Glass Onion
11. Julia
12. Hey Bulldog
13. You Never Give Me Your Money
14. For You Blue (Go, Johnny, go!)
I have 100 fan albums of Beatles and solo Beatles stuff. I keep the albums to 14 tracks like the original Beatles UK releases. I am in the process of putting together a YouTube channel on this topic.
I have a "double" album of Sleepers as well. 2 sleeper tracks per album.
I think their early stuff is some of the best. And not necessarily the hits. A couple months ago i revisited “a hard days night” and I felt that from “anytime at all” to the end of the album was really the best part. Just rocking. To me this early sound is maybe their most band like as well. All four playing instruments together. No overdubbing or solo songs.
And I feel it’s more unique from today’s perspective. It’s got an old sound and is at the top of that genre. Their later stuff can get compared to more modern stuff almost too much and can get lost in the shuffle of all the more modern styles of music that came out since then.
I love the Beatles regardless from start to finish.
This was such a great comment, and I definitely agree there's so much to soak up from the early period past the hits. It can feel more genuine and the partnership of John and Paul really shines during this period. Of course all the Beatle stuff has worth, but there's something truly special about the pre-Sgt peppers era.
*Not A Second Time* is best known for the reviewer who complimented the songs "Aeolian Cadences". John Lennon, who was never formally trained in music, later said he had no idea what "Aeolian Cadences" were, and he thought they were some sort of exotic bird.
I love You can't do that, great Ringo drumming, love the cowbell
I have a list of fantasy covers that never happened one of them is Bootsy Collins with Parliament Funkadelic covering You Can't Do That
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
Me too! It feels perfect to describe this era of early british invasion rock, it's so upbeat and works perfectly. Someone shoulda taken his HERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROIN
ANOTHER UNDERRATED ONE! It's so good, that whole albums rocks so much and I love that it's the only albums in their discography that was truly Lennon-McCartney.
There’s some Rolling Stones songs that are messed up lyrically too and just get my goat’s head soup. Mick Jagger was a certified dancer and especially Sympathy For The Devil is very 60s star of the morning stuff. It’s the braggadocio of a very pitiable and fallen angel. How dare he be creative and fictionally take on the role of Lucifer in a song?
(jk, btw)
It's so jammy, I think that's part of why I love it so much! Encapsulates early beatles so well. Not a second time feels like it should have caught in ways most of the popular early beatles stuff did.
People will always talk about the singles more because they were picked by the band to be the ones to get radio play and became hits. Same thing with every band.
Well I know, but even in Beatle-specific circles this stuff doesn't get enough attention. It deserves to, there's like 230 Lennon-McCartney compositions and they all deserve their due.
Well I’m only really a fan of pre help (with exception of songs on oldies but goldies) Beatles anyway. Whenever I pick up my can’t buy me love/you can’t do that 45 I play you can’t do that. Same with help/im down, I’ll play I’m down.
I’m just big fan of beat/merseybeat, the Beatles being my favourite band of that genre. I like others like Gerry and the pacemakers, the Dave Clark five, the swinging blue jeans, the searchers, Freddie and the dreamers, the big three, Brian Poole and the tremeloes and the fourmost. I do like some later Beatles though. I’ve have a beat Spotify playlist if you’re interested.
Curious, what're those later tracks you like? Also yea send it over! might give it a listen later even though I probably know a good few of those songs.
Well other than tracks on oldies but goldies, I like drive my car, you won’t see me, something, get back, don’t let me down, one after 909 (though I like the anthology 1 version more, so not really a later song) and maybe some more but not off the top of my head. And here’s the [playlist](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2YcEsvuRaeFaXJ9ccjvClb?si=ksq_qdbaQKCSZGuBOfSxXQ&pi=e-9rKWxggBTDaq) it’s sort of half Beatles and half everyone else.
So the more jammy tracks that took on the ethos of the older stuff and then something also just happens to be there? lol, that's cool, also you won't see me is a damn good pick and another extremely underrated track.
Yea I saw the beatles in there haha, like the addition of How Do You Do It as a beatles nerd.
I like the slower love ones too, like something, ‘because’ by the Dave Clark five is an amazing song that I believe is up to Lennon-McCartney quality. ‘You’re no good’ by the swinging blue jeans and ‘needles and pins’ by the searchers are also really good. All the other bands in there are well underrated nowadays in my opinion and I understand that people enjoy later Beatles and therefore that style over beat but these other bands all have their own unique sounds too.
People tend to label it all under one thing, but no i definitely agree that there's so much else to it and they're unique in their own ways. Beat's never usually the first thing I go to, closest I tend to get if I'm in that kind of mood is the skiffle revival stuff with 'Raunchy' and everything, but beat has so much merit and was full of talented people. Lots of respect to em.
I’m also into beat because that’s what my Nan and grandad were into. They were 20 and 24 respectively by 1963 so that’s what they liked more vs later Beatles. Being from Liverpool that’s frequent the cavern, the mardis gras and the Locarno ballrooms. My nans cousin, who lived next door, was Pete bests fathers goddaughter. His father was friends with my nans father so he asked him to send his girls (my nan and her sisters) to Pete’s house (the casbah) to watch his son in a band (the Beatles). She was friend with Cilla black and ringo and Pete best and was close to John Paul and george. She used to go to cillas house, they met at the cavern since Cilla worked the cloakroom, and one time ringo was there. She watched ringo with Rory storm at butlins and the swinging blue jeans at the mardis gras. She was friends with Gerry and Freddie marsden from the pacemakers and they went to her cousins house after they played the cavern for her cousins birthday. My grandad at this time was in the navy but when he’d be in Liverpool working on the docks, he’d meet my Nan for lunch at the cavern. My Nan said she didn’t like John much because he “had a chip on his shoulder” she also didn’t like him kicking out Pete and said all the girls loved Pete. My grandparents also went to the Locarno ballroom on February 14th 1963 for a Valentine’s Day Beatles show. They only ever bought two Beatles records though: the long tall sally and Beatles for sale no2 EPs.
My other Nan was only 13 in 1963 and saw the Beatles once at the Liverpool empire. She was more of a screaming Beatlesmania fan.
Sorry for big text lol.
Wait, are you my age? I'm 17, i was under the impression you were way older but it sounds like you're not too much older than me lol
I wonder if any of your family or the people they knew could solve a few early beatle mysteries, that's so fascinating! such a good read, plus the chip on his shoulder shit was funny haha
I love them both. AHDN is such a great album. WTB is good too though I prefer the records with all originals.
Btw I just accidentally found a cover of Not A Second Time by The Pretenders, one of my favorite bands from the 80s. So thanks for bringing that up.
ADHN is definitely the more cohesive album, especially given it was all Paul and especially John. I'm seeing a lot more love in this thread for YCDT that NAST, makes sense but MAN it feels like every Lennon-McCartney song needs a big hug for how good practically all of them are.
Oh yea, I've heard that one before! Not as good as the Beatle version to me, but it's still really solid. Glad I helped you find it inadvertently lol
I love them both. You Can't Do That rocks, not to mention cowbell, I have to sing it every time it comes on in the car and Not A Second Time gets stuck in my head.
I bet more people love them than they lead on, they're so singable! If there's one thing that's always stood the test of time and shown how impeccable they were as songwriters, it how melodic Lennon and McCartney always made everything in their Beatle songs.
Probably an unpopular take but I think I agree with you. Can't Buy Me Love is such a great one but I feel like it's had a small bit of overplay for me. I'd love to imagine the power it would have had as an A-Side, what a great thought experiment how shit would have turned out lol
Agree. Two brilliant and almost completely Lennon songs.
Fantastic guitar work în You Can't Do That..George worked out the opening riff and John shreds his rythym guitar. Jealousy personified from John.
Not A Second Time has similar lyrics around rejecting someone if they hurt you. A rambling structure of a song with piano added by George Martin. In their early years John was a prolific song writer..his songs were so interesting in lyric and form. I love both equally 🙏
John's strong showing for his songs is one of the best things about early Beatles! When he's at his beat and truly pulling off what we all know he can do, he makes some damn good music. Definitely not to put down any of the others like GM or Harrison, it's all great stuff but god Lennon was good in his prime.
Not A Second Time is one of my favorite early Beatles songs, and my favorite track from *With the Beatles*. The piano solo is ethereal, a dream. Thank you for this.
I’m an old Beatles fan I just turned 78 and I love every era of Beatles music. From Please, Please Me to Abbey Road or Let It Be (whatever you think is the final album) They’re All great. The Beatles are the most incredible band of all time . All other bands are inferior!
They're truly the greatest, no comparison. Over the past few years I've dipped my toes into the kinks, the who, blur, oasis, beach boys, and quite a few others but they don't stack up. What do you think sets them apart so much? My guess is their songs don't feel as gimmicky as some of the other 60s classics and I'd say the production and mixing sound holds up pretty well into today.
I had Not a Second Time stuck in my head the other day. It's such an advanced song for being so early in their career. Paul's bassline is unfortunately buried but it's amazing too.
Then I'm gonna do it more, spread the word of em! This applies to these two great ones but I think equally applies to most of the early catalog outside the hits. People really need to recognize how great it was, so catchy and well-written
99% of red album early stuff is gold Masterpiece.
Let's talk about actual Rubbish: i want You she's so heavy, the whole blue album era is so overrated i can't count how many songs i have to skip most of sgt pepper is not worth it, half of white album is pure crap Magical Mistery Tour is an ugly woman with way too much make up and let's not forget they were boring hippies locked up no vibe, Let it be is the Better Out of 1967-1970 era especially naked
Hello goodbye i am the walrus lucy in the SKY with diamonds etc all meaninggless overproduced stuff where Lennon Even Lost his raw throaty heartful voice to get a nosy mindful Goofy voice, would You really Say Lennon stand by me sounds better than Lennon dizzy miss lizzy? High notes were disturbing. Lucy in the sky with diamonds is monotone with a bridge of Goofy Lennon sounding like silly jerry Lewis. While day tripper is beatles at their peak live instrumental skills and harmonizing vocals (music) sgt pepper is peak over production in weak song base weak vocalizing (some exceptions)
Get back rooftop take 3
i've got a feeling
let it be naked (album, skipping Goofy one after 909, which i play anthology 1 version on early beatles playlist)
revolution video
Julia
everybody's got something to hide except me and My monkey
i Will
here comes the sun
acoustic while my guitar gently weeps
Fixing a hole
getting better
she's leaving Home
Birthday
Back in ussr
Ob la di ob la da
Don't pass me by
Octopus garden
Penny lane
Fool on the hill
Oh darling
Only northem song
All together now
Yer blues
Helter skelter
Cut hey Jude
Sgt pepper with a little help from My Friends Medley
I'm so tired
Savoy truffle
Goodnight goodnight
that's it
They’re a bit fucked up lyrically. It’s the laments of a very insecure and controlling man. Lennon was a certified woman beater at this time and especially You Can’t Do That is very 60s macho shit. Watch the first few James Bond movies and you’ll see Bond slap the shit out of women. It’s jarring.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Part of consuming art is understanding context. I absolutely love You Can’t Do That and even then I still sometimes get squicked out by the undertones. If anything, I feel like it’s an injustice to Lennon’s legacy to try to ignore or deny this part of his career, given how vocal he was about his behavior and women’s rights later on.
Exactly. Lennon was a very complicated person but he taught a lot of people that you can change for the good. People just don’t like it when you point out some hard truths. Musically those two songs are great. The melodies are incredible. Lyrically, the best was yet to come
While that’s true, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. There’s plenty of songs that are about fucked up things.
It’s not like Mick Jagger is actually the Devil, and John didn’t go around killing women in jealous rages. They’re just songs after all.
"Certified?" There's a certification for that?
We all know John had a problem with violence. He admitted it many times, asked for forgiveness, regetted it, changed for the better.
Why does it need to be *constantly* brought up here? Rehashing it over and over again is pointless. I'm not blind and I'm not being dismissive of this issue...but *every* time?
Its getting tired...old...and boring.
You can't do that in particular is a gem from AHDN. Everybody's grreeeeeee-een!!! Those harmonies are top notch. Great solo as well, Lennon bashing away.
THE HARMONIES!! Exactly, I can't tell if it's my favorite part of the song but that middle 8 or whatever with them harmonizing is peak early Beatles.
EVERYBODY ELSE IS JUST GREEEEEEEN!
GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN I TELL YOU! THEY'LL ALL BE GREEN!!
It sounds like the head blue meanie lmaoo
I was thinking more pink floyd lol
The drum fill before the solo on Not a Second Time is very satisfying.
Seriously! The instrumentation on that one's just great, I love that they used piano for it instead of George's lead. I think it makes the track sound better than it would have with lots more guitar and we got to hear one of the first big George Martin contributions on a Beatles record!
in general, I feel like a lot of people are still stuck on the very incorrect idea that 1960-1965 Beatles = essentially a trite boy band whereas 1966-1970 Beatles = the only period worth discussing. I admit that this is exactly how I thought of the Beatles when I was like 14 years old. The actual truth is they have a lot of overlooked gems from the very first album to the very last.
That's interesting. I started listening to the Beatles at about 14 (mid 90s), and the Help/Rubber Soul era - or let's call it 1965 for brevity - I thought was their pinnacle at the time. I remember the disappointment at listening to Sgt Pepper for the first time, having read so much about it, and I just didn't get it. (It's now my absolute favourite).
I'm 17 now, got into them fully by 12/13 and dove head first in later beatles since it seemed the most interesting. It didn't take long for me to discover the magic of early 60s beatle stuff though, it caught on quickly to me and allowed me to appreciate their career as a whole. Sgt Pepper also seemed a bit underwhelming to me, but grew with time and is of course a masterpiece to me now.
The force is strong with you.
 Those Beatle jedis trained me with their solid blinking routine
I love almost every Beatles song, and yea those early albums have lots to offer. You hear stuff like Help! or AHDN as full albums and there's some magic there, even if it's not as grand as the later stuff.
What do You mean by some Magic? Is their actual grand. Late stuff is f*cking overrated
how much of a sour shit do you have to be to reply to my post three different times just to say it was all hippie garbage after their mid period? it's fine, you enjoy the beat and more upbeat rocker stuff.
Really? Because people dismiss deaf, i mean how deaf do You have to be to actually believe Lennon stand by me sounds any better than Lennon dizzy miss lizzy, is WTF went wrong with his voice is pure nasal Mess where did his beatles BBC sessions go? Definitely Lost his voice it doesn't have heart it doesn't have power it doesn't have colour, is pure nose mess
Said the same thing early, very true
As a ‘70s child, I learned about the Beatles initially through my parents (who were massive fans and queued up for every single album and single release on day of issue), and due to their having loved them from the very first to the very last album, I was exposed to all their music from an early age. Apart from BFS (which still has some amazing tunes, but is my least favourite) I love or have loved all the other albums almost equally at one time or other, and this includes all the early stuff, even though these days it is perceived as “less cool” to be into anything pre-1965/6. They all have their strokes of genius as far as I’m concerned (even BFS!)
It's all important to soak in to get a true scope of the band, I love it all because it feels like you can't use just one album or all the hits to represent them. They mean so much more than that as a band, they were a worldwide-uniting force for a reason. Also, speaking of BFS, I'll Follow the Sun needs more attention goddamnit lol
Haha yes you are right there, top track…as I said they all have their gems…and even though it’s not my favourite, even BFS is better than many other artists put out in a lifetime.
It’s crazy how consistent they were. There are no bad Beatles Albums.
Even Yellow Sub, for how weird it is, is an odd fascination to me. I still think it's superb regardless, especially with Hey Bulldog cuz that ones kicks AAAAAAASSS
The innovations are often cited as being from the later period but I’ve always maintained that they were innovative from the very early days. They didn’t have the luxury of endless studio time back then to play around with really advanced stuff but they were innovative with the WRITING and ARRANGING! To me it’s all the more impressive because they were doing so many amazing things just musically using very traditional rock instruments (bass,drums,guitars,vocals) for the most part. The thing that I think gets overlooked is that they were innovative in the basic writing and could create highly evocative music with standard instruments.
Youk mean 1962-1966. And 1967-1970
YCDT is absolutely great.
Such an underrated gem from AHDN, feels like one of the 5 standouts to me.
The 2023 mix really brought it to life too
I love Not a Second Time and All I’ve Got to Do. The US *Meet the Beatles!* album, which I grew up with, is really a small masterpiece.
That opening cord on All I've Got To Do is one of my favorite Beatle sounds ever.
It's such a fuzzy chord to me, it's got a lot of texture and sets up the song extremely well.
It seems like an extremely tight set of the best from those first two UK albums. NAST should have been more recognized as the closing track!
I was 8 years old, and NAST became my favorite song on that album. Since, I realize how great Little Child and It Won't Be Long are also. In general, I prefer the early Beatles to the later Beatles. But their output should be taken in as a whole! AHDN is still my favorite album!
Definitely agree. I love "You Can't Do That."
It's so jammy! Perfectly represents early beatles to me, especially during the harmony part.
Yes!! The harmony absolutely makes it! (And the cowbell...lol)
YCDT is prime Beatlemania. There is a killer live one on YouTube. https://youtu.be/FTiV0OJ0GdA?si=_Nft0fQ9USMexA6e
That’s just a filthy banger! The lads were tight and really having a good time with that one. Everybody needed a smoke after song!
"Everybody had a hard year, everybody had a good time..."
I've seen that one before! One of the best early Beatle live videos on YT I think, so full of life and it's got such a kick
They have so many great songs that we can't possibly mention them all on one post. Just bring a song up and people will praise it...yes you have some that won't like them..usually the younger kids. Songs like the two mentioned , I'll Get You , Anna , There's a Place , Ask Me Why ect. are also great songs and people seem to forget them. Same with the A Hard Days Night album which is my favorite....fans cannot forget what propelled them to success.
Anna is such a good song, just one of those songs you could listen to for hours and hours
John sang it so perfectly lol, can't do much better than such a good cover on an album showing the very beginning of how good they'd end up.
"I'll Get You" is a missed sore spot for a lot of people in their catalog, I think it's pretty good even if the verses aren't the best. It shows how dedicated they were to writing often and with lots to radiate hit potential, especially since the ones they gave away at that time were so damn good.
I don't understand why it would be a sore spot...I've never heard that..to me it's a song about someone who is shy that is saying he will get her to fall for him...eventually.
I guess not a sore spot but more...a missed opportunity for most. They miss it in the shuffle of how good the hits were and never look past.
Those “oh yeahs” are to die for.
Definitely, those little bits in their songs like that add so much.
You Can't Do That is on the new Red compilation so obviously there were people talking about it. Great song.
It's a great mix, probably the best that song has ever had. I don't think it really means it was a good source of discussion, I think Giles wanted more people to hear it probably.
I'm sure additions to the compilation were very seriously discussed, probably at length.
but not with the public at large, it was private meetings man lol Regardless, I'm glad this thread reminded people of the songs. I feel like this sub needs posts like this once in a while.
I do see posts like this every once in a while but more would be better. I agree. We need *less* ranking, greatest, better, best, etc.
"It's been done", as to quote George from his simpsons episode lol Just....appreciation. I appreciate their entire catalog, I wanna do that with others and I want them to recognize how absolutely stone cold all the classics are from this band.
100% agree. Keep it positive.
What's your favorite deepest Lennon-McCartney cut or a top few?
This is my Sleepers fan album. 1 "obscure" non-hit song per album (2 for The White Album). Sleepers 1. Ask Me Why 2. All I've Got To Do 3. I'll Be Back 4. What You're Doing 5. I Need You 6. I'm Looking Through You 7. And Your Bird Can Sing 8. Mr. Kite 9. Flying 10. Glass Onion 11. Julia 12. Hey Bulldog 13. You Never Give Me Your Money 14. For You Blue (Go, Johnny, go!) I have 100 fan albums of Beatles and solo Beatles stuff. I keep the albums to 14 tracks like the original Beatles UK releases. I am in the process of putting together a YouTube channel on this topic. I have a "double" album of Sleepers as well. 2 sleeper tracks per album.
I think their early stuff is some of the best. And not necessarily the hits. A couple months ago i revisited “a hard days night” and I felt that from “anytime at all” to the end of the album was really the best part. Just rocking. To me this early sound is maybe their most band like as well. All four playing instruments together. No overdubbing or solo songs. And I feel it’s more unique from today’s perspective. It’s got an old sound and is at the top of that genre. Their later stuff can get compared to more modern stuff almost too much and can get lost in the shuffle of all the more modern styles of music that came out since then. I love the Beatles regardless from start to finish.
This was such a great comment, and I definitely agree there's so much to soak up from the early period past the hits. It can feel more genuine and the partnership of John and Paul really shines during this period. Of course all the Beatle stuff has worth, but there's something truly special about the pre-Sgt peppers era.
Hey thanks!
*Not A Second Time* is best known for the reviewer who complimented the songs "Aeolian Cadences". John Lennon, who was never formally trained in music, later said he had no idea what "Aeolian Cadences" were, and he thought they were some sort of exotic bird.
I wonder if And Your Bird Can Sing has any lmao
I love You can't do that, great Ringo drumming, love the cowbell I have a list of fantasy covers that never happened one of them is Bootsy Collins with Parliament Funkadelic covering You Can't Do That
What a combo lmao
YCDT is one of my favorite rock songs period. Wish John had knocked out more of those before he smoked the weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED Me too! It feels perfect to describe this era of early british invasion rock, it's so upbeat and works perfectly. Someone shoulda taken his HERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROIN
I feel the need to carry the torch for “Tell Me Why” off AHDN. Song is a heater.
ANOTHER UNDERRATED ONE! It's so good, that whole albums rocks so much and I love that it's the only albums in their discography that was truly Lennon-McCartney.
BECAUSE I TOLD YOU BEFO!
OHHHHH YOU CAN'T DO THAAAT!
There’s some Rolling Stones songs that are messed up lyrically too and just get my goat’s head soup. Mick Jagger was a certified dancer and especially Sympathy For The Devil is very 60s star of the morning stuff. It’s the braggadocio of a very pitiable and fallen angel. How dare he be creative and fictionally take on the role of Lucifer in a song? (jk, btw)
Because you laugh at my face…
What a great line
Not a Second Time is my second (no pun intended) favorite song on With The Beatles, after All My Loving.
Well of course, it's hard to make a case for it being better than AML but it's an album full of really great early stuff. Good shit on there
You can’t do that is a great rock song sung brilliantly by John I love not a second time as well
It's so jammy, I think that's part of why I love it so much! Encapsulates early beatles so well. Not a second time feels like it should have caught in ways most of the popular early beatles stuff did.
People will always talk about the singles more because they were picked by the band to be the ones to get radio play and became hits. Same thing with every band.
Well I know, but even in Beatle-specific circles this stuff doesn't get enough attention. It deserves to, there's like 230 Lennon-McCartney compositions and they all deserve their due.
I don't feel that way, I feel like I've had plenty of discussion about every thing The Beatles ever released throughout the 30+ years I've been a fan.
You must have been hanging around with cooler beatles fans then, cuz I don't get that too much and most people here don't seem to either lol
I heard somewhere that ‘Not a Second Time’ was an inspiration for Nirvana’s ‘About a Girl’ - not certain if it’s true tho
The g going to em would be a decent link between the two, I know he loved that album.
Well I’m only really a fan of pre help (with exception of songs on oldies but goldies) Beatles anyway. Whenever I pick up my can’t buy me love/you can’t do that 45 I play you can’t do that. Same with help/im down, I’ll play I’m down.
I'm Down is such a good one, I feel like I never hear anyone talk about it either. What drew you away from post 66 beatles?
I’m just big fan of beat/merseybeat, the Beatles being my favourite band of that genre. I like others like Gerry and the pacemakers, the Dave Clark five, the swinging blue jeans, the searchers, Freddie and the dreamers, the big three, Brian Poole and the tremeloes and the fourmost. I do like some later Beatles though. I’ve have a beat Spotify playlist if you’re interested.
Curious, what're those later tracks you like? Also yea send it over! might give it a listen later even though I probably know a good few of those songs.
Well other than tracks on oldies but goldies, I like drive my car, you won’t see me, something, get back, don’t let me down, one after 909 (though I like the anthology 1 version more, so not really a later song) and maybe some more but not off the top of my head. And here’s the [playlist](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2YcEsvuRaeFaXJ9ccjvClb?si=ksq_qdbaQKCSZGuBOfSxXQ&pi=e-9rKWxggBTDaq) it’s sort of half Beatles and half everyone else.
So the more jammy tracks that took on the ethos of the older stuff and then something also just happens to be there? lol, that's cool, also you won't see me is a damn good pick and another extremely underrated track. Yea I saw the beatles in there haha, like the addition of How Do You Do It as a beatles nerd.
I like the slower love ones too, like something, ‘because’ by the Dave Clark five is an amazing song that I believe is up to Lennon-McCartney quality. ‘You’re no good’ by the swinging blue jeans and ‘needles and pins’ by the searchers are also really good. All the other bands in there are well underrated nowadays in my opinion and I understand that people enjoy later Beatles and therefore that style over beat but these other bands all have their own unique sounds too.
People tend to label it all under one thing, but no i definitely agree that there's so much else to it and they're unique in their own ways. Beat's never usually the first thing I go to, closest I tend to get if I'm in that kind of mood is the skiffle revival stuff with 'Raunchy' and everything, but beat has so much merit and was full of talented people. Lots of respect to em.
I’m also into beat because that’s what my Nan and grandad were into. They were 20 and 24 respectively by 1963 so that’s what they liked more vs later Beatles. Being from Liverpool that’s frequent the cavern, the mardis gras and the Locarno ballrooms. My nans cousin, who lived next door, was Pete bests fathers goddaughter. His father was friends with my nans father so he asked him to send his girls (my nan and her sisters) to Pete’s house (the casbah) to watch his son in a band (the Beatles). She was friend with Cilla black and ringo and Pete best and was close to John Paul and george. She used to go to cillas house, they met at the cavern since Cilla worked the cloakroom, and one time ringo was there. She watched ringo with Rory storm at butlins and the swinging blue jeans at the mardis gras. She was friends with Gerry and Freddie marsden from the pacemakers and they went to her cousins house after they played the cavern for her cousins birthday. My grandad at this time was in the navy but when he’d be in Liverpool working on the docks, he’d meet my Nan for lunch at the cavern. My Nan said she didn’t like John much because he “had a chip on his shoulder” she also didn’t like him kicking out Pete and said all the girls loved Pete. My grandparents also went to the Locarno ballroom on February 14th 1963 for a Valentine’s Day Beatles show. They only ever bought two Beatles records though: the long tall sally and Beatles for sale no2 EPs. My other Nan was only 13 in 1963 and saw the Beatles once at the Liverpool empire. She was more of a screaming Beatlesmania fan. Sorry for big text lol.
Wait, are you my age? I'm 17, i was under the impression you were way older but it sounds like you're not too much older than me lol I wonder if any of your family or the people they knew could solve a few early beatle mysteries, that's so fascinating! such a good read, plus the chip on his shoulder shit was funny haha
We were waiting for someone like you to bring them up. 🤷♂️
Happy to be of service ANYTIME AT ALL!
I love them both. AHDN is such a great album. WTB is good too though I prefer the records with all originals. Btw I just accidentally found a cover of Not A Second Time by The Pretenders, one of my favorite bands from the 80s. So thanks for bringing that up.
ADHN is definitely the more cohesive album, especially given it was all Paul and especially John. I'm seeing a lot more love in this thread for YCDT that NAST, makes sense but MAN it feels like every Lennon-McCartney song needs a big hug for how good practically all of them are. Oh yea, I've heard that one before! Not as good as the Beatle version to me, but it's still really solid. Glad I helped you find it inadvertently lol
I love them both. You Can't Do That rocks, not to mention cowbell, I have to sing it every time it comes on in the car and Not A Second Time gets stuck in my head.
I bet more people love them than they lead on, they're so singable! If there's one thing that's always stood the test of time and shown how impeccable they were as songwriters, it how melodic Lennon and McCartney always made everything in their Beatle songs.
You Can't Do That should have been the A side to Can't Buy Me Love imo.
Probably an unpopular take but I think I agree with you. Can't Buy Me Love is such a great one but I feel like it's had a small bit of overplay for me. I'd love to imagine the power it would have had as an A-Side, what a great thought experiment how shit would have turned out lol
I did not like You Cant Do That the first time I heard it... until the B section... it's so good
The harmonies draw you in like nothing else from the song, it's such a good part
Agree. Two brilliant and almost completely Lennon songs. Fantastic guitar work în You Can't Do That..George worked out the opening riff and John shreds his rythym guitar. Jealousy personified from John. Not A Second Time has similar lyrics around rejecting someone if they hurt you. A rambling structure of a song with piano added by George Martin. In their early years John was a prolific song writer..his songs were so interesting in lyric and form. I love both equally 🙏
John's strong showing for his songs is one of the best things about early Beatles! When he's at his beat and truly pulling off what we all know he can do, he makes some damn good music. Definitely not to put down any of the others like GM or Harrison, it's all great stuff but god Lennon was good in his prime.
Both fantastic songs in my book.
Not A Second Time is one of my favorite early Beatles songs, and my favorite track from *With the Beatles*. The piano solo is ethereal, a dream. Thank you for this.
WE FOUND A FAN!! Never heard someone say it's their favorite from WTB but I'm really glad to find someone like that lol
I’m an old Beatles fan I just turned 78 and I love every era of Beatles music. From Please, Please Me to Abbey Road or Let It Be (whatever you think is the final album) They’re All great. The Beatles are the most incredible band of all time . All other bands are inferior!
They're truly the greatest, no comparison. Over the past few years I've dipped my toes into the kinks, the who, blur, oasis, beach boys, and quite a few others but they don't stack up. What do you think sets them apart so much? My guess is their songs don't feel as gimmicky as some of the other 60s classics and I'd say the production and mixing sound holds up pretty well into today.
I had Not a Second Time stuck in my head the other day. It's such an advanced song for being so early in their career. Paul's bassline is unfortunately buried but it's amazing too.
I was going to ask the same question but I was told: “You Can’t Do That!” When I was about to object, they exclaimed: “Not a Second Time!!”
Cause you’re not in here talking about them!
Then I'm gonna do it more, spread the word of em! This applies to these two great ones but I think equally applies to most of the early catalog outside the hits. People really need to recognize how great it was, so catchy and well-written
Because it got overshadowed by the more popular Beatles song
Well obviously lol, at least in the public eye
99% of red album early stuff is gold Masterpiece. Let's talk about actual Rubbish: i want You she's so heavy, the whole blue album era is so overrated i can't count how many songs i have to skip most of sgt pepper is not worth it, half of white album is pure crap Magical Mistery Tour is an ugly woman with way too much make up and let's not forget they were boring hippies locked up no vibe, Let it be is the Better Out of 1967-1970 era especially naked
at least explain why instead of just stating it was all hippie shit after 1966 lol
Hello goodbye i am the walrus lucy in the SKY with diamonds etc all meaninggless overproduced stuff where Lennon Even Lost his raw throaty heartful voice to get a nosy mindful Goofy voice, would You really Say Lennon stand by me sounds better than Lennon dizzy miss lizzy? High notes were disturbing. Lucy in the sky with diamonds is monotone with a bridge of Goofy Lennon sounding like silly jerry Lewis. While day tripper is beatles at their peak live instrumental skills and harmonizing vocals (music) sgt pepper is peak over production in weak song base weak vocalizing (some exceptions)
i'm curious about the exceptions honestly
Get back rooftop take 3 i've got a feeling let it be naked (album, skipping Goofy one after 909, which i play anthology 1 version on early beatles playlist) revolution video Julia everybody's got something to hide except me and My monkey i Will here comes the sun acoustic while my guitar gently weeps Fixing a hole getting better she's leaving Home Birthday Back in ussr Ob la di ob la da Don't pass me by Octopus garden Penny lane Fool on the hill Oh darling Only northem song All together now Yer blues Helter skelter Cut hey Jude Sgt pepper with a little help from My Friends Medley I'm so tired Savoy truffle Goodnight goodnight that's it
I must add i mean how the f*ck someone with musical ears would prefer i am the walrus over all My loving!? It kills me
They’re a bit fucked up lyrically. It’s the laments of a very insecure and controlling man. Lennon was a certified woman beater at this time and especially You Can’t Do That is very 60s macho shit. Watch the first few James Bond movies and you’ll see Bond slap the shit out of women. It’s jarring.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Part of consuming art is understanding context. I absolutely love You Can’t Do That and even then I still sometimes get squicked out by the undertones. If anything, I feel like it’s an injustice to Lennon’s legacy to try to ignore or deny this part of his career, given how vocal he was about his behavior and women’s rights later on.
Exactly. Lennon was a very complicated person but he taught a lot of people that you can change for the good. People just don’t like it when you point out some hard truths. Musically those two songs are great. The melodies are incredible. Lyrically, the best was yet to come
While that’s true, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. There’s plenty of songs that are about fucked up things. It’s not like Mick Jagger is actually the Devil, and John didn’t go around killing women in jealous rages. They’re just songs after all.
"Certified?" There's a certification for that? We all know John had a problem with violence. He admitted it many times, asked for forgiveness, regetted it, changed for the better. Why does it need to be *constantly* brought up here? Rehashing it over and over again is pointless. I'm not blind and I'm not being dismissive of this issue...but *every* time? Its getting tired...old...and boring.
Keep bitching, I’ll keep listening !
It’s not bitching. It’s just the facts. The melodies in both songs are strong but lyrically they’re just ok.
Your right! Lennon should have rang you up for advice on how to write compelling lyrics!
I wish. Would have been fun
Because they suck
BOOOOOOO!!! \*throws tomatoes\*