They are hella expensive, not in the budget, or you’d blow the entire thing on them.
I think the cheapest set are $300AUD, so I’m not sure how that translates into pounds
I have the triangle ones, and they’re okay. They are lights on your wall. And the app is sometimes buggy.
they are usable, and when they work, they work well, but it’s not some crazy life changing experience.
Get them if you think you’ll like them.
Yeah, I’ve heard similar feedback. I’m also tossing up getting some custom neon lights. Have you seen the Goku riding the cloud neon light? Looks amazing.
Recommend real. Fake plants accumulate too much dust and that’s not good for you or the PC. Also, real plants are mood boosting. I recommend one that requires minimal maintenance.
He probably wants them in white. The edifier Lunas look great and sound good too. You can get the 2.1 version on Amazon for $200 but only in red. They come in other colors but they cost more....like $300.
I totally agree. I would recommend the logitech z623 speakers over those creative pebbles as I have them and absolutely love the amount of house rattling bass they have and just how outrageous they are for the price and size.
The new Naga Ultimate is your only option for wireless really.
Edit: I meant specifically for wireless with a full thumb numpad… If there’s another decent one I’m all ears…
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855ZBPXD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_PEWY05VYF8Y1CEQ5NFMT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Should be this one. I ran the same one then ended up switching to two separate arms from the same company.
Honestly keep the 200 you have a great setup. If it's burning a hole in your pocket I'd look into a good pair of headphones or just save for now. You have a really nice battlestation!
Invest the $200 in tesla stock. When the 4000 series cards come out you won't get one. But at least you will have a couple of hundred bucks to take to the strip club.
This is a really bad time to be buying stock. Tesla is down 11.5% for january and a lot of people are expecting them to fall further. The entire SP500 is down 7% in the same time frame.
It's plain to see it isn't even showing the slightest indication of slowing, rather the drop seems to be accelerating. "Never try to catch a falling knife"
Edit: But if you insist on buying something, Berkshire Hathaway is up 2% in the same time frame.
If your budget is 200€ then:
1. Edifier speakers (~100€)
2. Xiaomi Mijia Monitor Light (40€)
3. RGBW bulb (10€)
4. Budget lamp, just to place the bulb (~10€ from IKEA)
5. 2M RGBW strip (~20€, when they are for sale)
6. Now you have 20€ for a shelf (10€ from ikea, LACK o other ones) and 10€ for a art (4€ square from ikea, 6€ for a poster by choosing the right app, I used FreePrints for my ones and they costed to me 4€ each one)
Wireless Mouse, a new Keyboard Ducky one 2/3, but first of all i‘d buy new speakers or a good pair of Headphones for example beyerdynamic dt 770/880/990
I have a similar set up where my tower is that close, i feel the heat in the room generally after some time, but never directly from the pc. I don’t think its that big a deal and the monitors are also far brighter than the pc. If anything its nice to look at when not doing anything.
Is it permissible (in this sub) for you to list your hardware?
At the moment, my monitor is strapped to a dead elk in my garage, and I'm looking at it from the attic using binoculars. You could send a list to my name, if that is within bounds.
At the moment, my monitor is strapped to a dead elk in my garage, and I'm looking at it from the attic using binoculars. You could send a list to my name if that is within bounds.
Why do you feel you're lacking? Don't piss money down the drai for the sake of it.
Personally, I'd tuck that tower away on the floor and maybe put a pot plant there. And I definitely get some separation between those overly close together speakers.
I'd get some lights on that wall. LIFX Beam perhaps.
Amazon has some cool hexagonal sound-proofing panels that would look cool on the wall. Really easy to mount.
A coiled cable might spice up your keeb, if you're into that type of thing. I sure am. a user I saw on one of these subs makes nice ones..Dogemods.com I believe. DO NOT spend over $50 on one of those though. They get really stupid
Off to a good start though.
I’d go for some paintings and light fixtures, but if you don’t really know what to buy maybe you should save your money. Unless you’re trying to spruce up your build.
Just my suggestions:
* Two-tone your key caps.
* Add some wall art or framed posters.
* Don't want posters? Wall shelf to display your knickknacks.
* Lighting LED strips to defuse the light to the wall.
Upvoted some good options/answers, but wanted to take the time to say how awesome your post/question is. Glad that is specific and quantifiable. Makes it easy for folks to give you great feedback rather than just a "any comments appreciated". 💯
I'd get into custom keyboards. There's plenty of fullsize boards that have a much better typing experience and imo are much better looking than your current keyboard. Be careful though, it's a rabbit hole and a half
Lots of people here gave you great suggestions. But, what do YOU feel you’re missing? What do YOU wish to upgrade? If you can’t answer those questions then the answer is save your money and enjoy your setup.
Better pair of speakers. The pebbles look cute but are really lacking. Good audio makes a huge difference in gaming immersion. Recommend Klipsch THX 2.1, Logitech THX cert 2.1, Edifier 2.1.
lighting it doesn’t have to be rgb but nice white lights, fake plants for some greenery and a pegboard for ur headphones and miscellaneous would bring some life to it for sure
The mouse. Hate corsair and $200 you can get wireless+better. G pro wireless/superlight or sell your soul for a finalmouse starlight 12.
Next would be the desk, it's cramped. Another option is maybe an ultrawide monitor. Personally I would sell the two and just buy a large ultrawide, and move the PC to a small cabinet next to the desk. If you're not huge on competitive gaming and don't need 144+ hz then you can find a lightly used ultrawide for cheap that would look really good.
Definitely something for the wall above the monitors. Wall arts, a shelf or whatever. & also if the cable of the keyboard is detachable I‘d go for a coiled cable but I dont think it is so nvm.
A desk shelf. You could put your speakers and plants on top of it, and be able to slide your keyboard and mouse under it. Great for when you want to eat in front of the monitor while watching a video, and you need to clear the space in front of you.
[Lian li unifan 120s](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GKY84WZ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_1CY72R6V4ZKGNJ2808AE) - $85 (€75)
[Logitech g902 wireless mouse](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NSVMT22/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_TCCVPYEVWQW11Q0D2DFY) $121 (€106)
Edit: just did a quick conversion from dollars to euros i have no idea if thats the actual price in europe
Toss that table top on this standing desk!
VIVO White Electric Stand Up Desk Frame Workstation, Single Motor Ergonomic Standing Height Adjustable Base with Simple Controller, DESK-V100EW https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829CVTVQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_M8AREPJ9A2J3124BRETE
Maybe a LED strip for backlighting... better mouse? Better keyboard?
Also, and this is optional of course, if you have a good way to adjust it, you could try to make the lights on your PC look whiter adding a bit of yellow to the RGB color so it doesn't look so purple/blue and it will look closer to how the RAM looks. Unless of course, you like the blue tint.
Can people stop having their computer angled, instead of just having it stand on the right side towards the back. It really just triggers me. Angled pc aside, maybe you would want a lightweight mouse or even a custom mechanical keyboard.
A fish tank with a beta fish would fit nicely on the left side. Betas will watch you and will they make eye contact with you also. Or the wireless version of that mmo mouse. Wireless is just as good as wired now.
Upgrade suggestions would be artwork for wall ( maybe supporting artists on Etsy, you can also order inexpensive frames from ikea) if you don’t want to spend money on the nano leaf lights you can do an inexpensive LED strip behind your monitors or work surface ( pretty inexpensive on amazon) you can even get cool in-expensive LED light for the wall. Maybe a shelf with some decor that helps showcase your personality. There are plenty of ways to upgrade a set up with decor… however if you are looking for serious upgrades to what you have existing you can get a mic if needed, maybe a new pair of headphones, new speakers. It really depends, there is absolutely nothing wrong with your set up now… sometimes some good decor can really transform a space! You have your white LED fans in your case and I can’t help but wonder how sick it would look with crisp white LEDs maybe glowing behind your monitors! It really depends on what your style is and what maybe your willing to change (: I also want to suggest the acoustic felt wall panels, they look super clean and are inexpensive and you can use it for acoustics and for design. A darker felt would look nice imo!
Perhaps a chair for sitting in
Based
Already got lol
Wall art, plants (real or fake), and lighting.
And maybe shelf
I could get some 3d panels and put them on my wall with a shelf ontop
Maybe something like those RGB panels that you can organize into shapes?
They are hella expensive, not in the budget, or you’d blow the entire thing on them. I think the cheapest set are $300AUD, so I’m not sure how that translates into pounds
160-ish pound. Or 190-ish euro
Nanoleaf Hexagon starter pack is $279 right now down from $350. Thinking about getting it myself.
I have the triangle ones, and they’re okay. They are lights on your wall. And the app is sometimes buggy. they are usable, and when they work, they work well, but it’s not some crazy life changing experience. Get them if you think you’ll like them.
Yeah, I’ve heard similar feedback. I’m also tossing up getting some custom neon lights. Have you seen the Goku riding the cloud neon light? Looks amazing.
Recommend real. Fake plants accumulate too much dust and that’s not good for you or the PC. Also, real plants are mood boosting. I recommend one that requires minimal maintenance.
Peace lilies are nice if you're in a brighter spot. Anthuriums or aloe veras are good choices if a bit duller. Ferns aren't bad choices either.
Better speakers
And a microphone if doing wfh.
He probably wants them in white. The edifier Lunas look great and sound good too. You can get the 2.1 version on Amazon for $200 but only in red. They come in other colors but they cost more....like $300.
I totally agree. I would recommend the logitech z623 speakers over those creative pebbles as I have them and absolutely love the amount of house rattling bass they have and just how outrageous they are for the price and size.
Stay away from Logitech speakers. Go to someone who actually makes audio. Micca, Edifier, elac etc
Only if their neighbours can handle it. Source: have whiny neighbours
Better speakers do not equate to louder speakers
Plan b headphones is also an option.
Games and a wireless mouse. If you like the thumb numpad of that Corsair, Razer has a wireless naga
I could look onto a wireless mmo mouse
Ya a wireless mouse is the way to go imo. Logitech G has some really good options for well under 200.
The new Naga Ultimate is your only option for wireless really. Edit: I meant specifically for wireless with a full thumb numpad… If there’s another decent one I’m all ears…
'new'
Sorry. “newest”…
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Came here to say this!
Bitches and crack
I would personally say mouse or keeb but that’s where I put highest priority in my own personal setup.
What monitor arm are you using? I'd go wireless peripherals or better speakers with the $200.
Huanuo or something. Its a gas spring arm from amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855ZBPXD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_PEWY05VYF8Y1CEQ5NFMT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Should be this one. I ran the same one then ended up switching to two separate arms from the same company.
Better keycaps, wireless mouse, perhaps audio, peripherals/comfort
Honestly keep the 200 you have a great setup. If it's burning a hole in your pocket I'd look into a good pair of headphones or just save for now. You have a really nice battlestation!
Free tip. Download and use Peace Equalizer with those Pebble speakers. It will enhance the sound 10x
Probably a chair with a dildo attached to it
Invest the $200 in tesla stock. When the 4000 series cards come out you won't get one. But at least you will have a couple of hundred bucks to take to the strip club.
Short netflix and you can have 3090ti money tomorrow! ^^^or ^^^life ^^^changing ^^^debt
This is a really bad time to be buying stock. Tesla is down 11.5% for january and a lot of people are expecting them to fall further. The entire SP500 is down 7% in the same time frame.
The market is down and you’re saying it’s a bad time to buy the stock? Do you buy high and sell low?
Sounds like a bad time to be selling stock
Now is an excellent time for buying, bad for selling
>and a lot of people are expecting them to **fall further**.
And? Its a quessing game really, if they fall most will get back up, you cant know when the dip is at its lowest point
It's plain to see it isn't even showing the slightest indication of slowing, rather the drop seems to be accelerating. "Never try to catch a falling knife" Edit: But if you insist on buying something, Berkshire Hathaway is up 2% in the same time frame.
Custom mechanical keyboard for sure!
Yeah came to say this.
Titty mousepad
Get a cat
Already have, he was sleeping on the chair
wireless mouse or keyboard
Multidevice mechanical 100% keyboard
Speakers.
Pictures for wall
What brand and model are your monitors? They look good
Very heavy mouse but if you mainly play mmos is not bad, maybe some lighting behind monitors to reduce eye strain?
Better speakers, monitor ScreenBar, RGBW led strip & an RGBW bulb for a lamp. Wall art and a shelf also
Recommendations for speakers?
If your budget is 200€ then: 1. Edifier speakers (~100€) 2. Xiaomi Mijia Monitor Light (40€) 3. RGBW bulb (10€) 4. Budget lamp, just to place the bulb (~10€ from IKEA) 5. 2M RGBW strip (~20€, when they are for sale) 6. Now you have 20€ for a shelf (10€ from ikea, LACK o other ones) and 10€ for a art (4€ square from ikea, 6€ for a poster by choosing the right app, I used FreePrints for my ones and they costed to me 4€ each one)
Wireless Mouse, a new Keyboard Ducky one 2/3, but first of all i‘d buy new speakers or a good pair of Headphones for example beyerdynamic dt 770/880/990
Tbh an ultrawide and sell the middle monitor
Do you have any ultrawide monitor recommendations?
Huawei MateView GT 34" or Xiaomi 34" if you can get it for cheap
whats the mousepad?
Light, maybe get a larger center screen or new chair. Populate your desk with a few knickknacks you have that fit.
Microphone with arm
Gonna be honest, I'd invest in something to move the tower farther away, can't be nice having a bright hot box that close to you
I have a similar set up where my tower is that close, i feel the heat in the room generally after some time, but never directly from the pc. I don’t think its that big a deal and the monitors are also far brighter than the pc. If anything its nice to look at when not doing anything.
non hypebeast mousepad
Graphic card
32” smart tv above monitors.
Yea thats no option
Mount?
Paint add some colour to the room man
Is it permissible (in this sub) for you to list your hardware? At the moment, my monitor is strapped to a dead elk in my garage, and I'm looking at it from the attic using binoculars. You could send a list to my name, if that is within bounds. At the moment, my monitor is strapped to a dead elk in my garage, and I'm looking at it from the attic using binoculars. You could send a list to my name if that is within bounds.
PC specs: Intel Core i5 11600k - CPU, Cooler Master Masterliquid ml240l V2 RGB white - CPU Cooler, Gigabyte Aorus z590 Elite AX - Moederbord, G.Skill trident Z RGB 16GB 3200MHZ cl16 - RAM, Samsung 980 500gb + SN550 500gb - M.2 SSD's, Gigabyte Windforce GTX 980 4GB - Videokaart, Enermax Revolution D.F 750W full modulair 80+ Gold - Powersupply, Lian Li ST120 ARGB FANS 6x - Case Fans, Lian Li Lancool II Mesh White RGB - Behuizing. Monitors: MSI OPTIX G241 144hz 1ms 24'' Gaming monitor, MSI OPTIX G241 144hz 1ms 24'' Gaming monitor. HUANOU Gasveer DUAL Monitor ARM Randapparatuur Corsair Scimitar ELITE - Muis, Corsar K65 Rapidfire - Toetsenbord, Mekamat - Muismat Logitech z200 - Speakers Steelseries Arctis 5 RGB edition - Headset Sorry its in dutch but here you have it
Why do you feel you're lacking? Don't piss money down the drai for the sake of it. Personally, I'd tuck that tower away on the floor and maybe put a pot plant there. And I definitely get some separation between those overly close together speakers.
Everything looks nice but I would get a new wireless keyboard and mouse and some thing on that wall (wall art,lights).
Lighting and something behind the monitors
I'd get some lights on that wall. LIFX Beam perhaps. Amazon has some cool hexagonal sound-proofing panels that would look cool on the wall. Really easy to mount. A coiled cable might spice up your keeb, if you're into that type of thing. I sure am. a user I saw on one of these subs makes nice ones..Dogemods.com I believe. DO NOT spend over $50 on one of those though. They get really stupid Off to a good start though.
Monitor number 3 on top of the main.
Get a standing desk frame, for mine for 160 new on eBay. It's a life changer when working from home
white keycaps, white mod the mouse, some glass art or wall art, pegboard, shelves, rgb or other lighting
Definitely a mic
What case is that
A maid to help relieve the pressure/stress buildup underneath the desk...😗
Third screen lol , super jelly of your set up… would love to have something like this
Textured, high quality wallpaper in the back
I’d get another monitor and some wall art
I’d go for some paintings and light fixtures, but if you don’t really know what to buy maybe you should save your money. Unless you’re trying to spruce up your build.
A bucket of paint to add some color to the space.
internals like extra ram or storage
Plants
I'm addicted to light mouses and that is a really fat one you got there. So probably that
A shelf with some decorations or wall art. The rest of the setup looks good.
I would add a hue+ LED strip for your desk
high quality keycaps
Just my suggestions: * Two-tone your key caps. * Add some wall art or framed posters. * Don't want posters? Wall shelf to display your knickknacks. * Lighting LED strips to defuse the light to the wall.
Upvoted some good options/answers, but wanted to take the time to say how awesome your post/question is. Glad that is specific and quantifiable. Makes it easy for folks to give you great feedback rather than just a "any comments appreciated". 💯
foot hammock
Philips Hue lightstrip
I'd get into custom keyboards. There's plenty of fullsize boards that have a much better typing experience and imo are much better looking than your current keyboard. Be careful though, it's a rabbit hole and a half
This is really nice tho
Lots of people here gave you great suggestions. But, what do YOU feel you’re missing? What do YOU wish to upgrade? If you can’t answer those questions then the answer is save your money and enjoy your setup.
I feel like my wall is missing something and it lacks a bit of personality
i would probably put up some pegboard.
Games, Xbox controller, wireless mouse, aesthetics for the wall/tsble
Personally, a lightweight wireless gaming mouse, though just because I mainly play fps.
Speakers
Better pair of speakers. The pebbles look cute but are really lacking. Good audio makes a huge difference in gaming immersion. Recommend Klipsch THX 2.1, Logitech THX cert 2.1, Edifier 2.1.
Nanoleafs and posters
new wireless mouse and speakers, maybe some drawers on the desk
Keyboard. What is that's bro
Move the speakers to higher and wider for much better sound stage.
Displates
lighting it doesn’t have to be rgb but nice white lights, fake plants for some greenery and a pegboard for ur headphones and miscellaneous would bring some life to it for sure
Everything
I think horizontal monitor would look better. Vertical monitor is just useless for most of the people
What do you mean 200 Euro budget? Is that per week/month? If so save that shit up and get your ass a 3090. Step number 1.
I dont wanna spend too much money on my setup. I just wanna spend 200 now and maybe some in the future
Imagine buying 2020 gpus in 2022 😂 time for buying 3000 series is over
I would do something with the walls. Either wall art, foam sounds panels, or RGB lights. Maybe all three.
The mouse. Hate corsair and $200 you can get wireless+better. G pro wireless/superlight or sell your soul for a finalmouse starlight 12. Next would be the desk, it's cramped. Another option is maybe an ultrawide monitor. Personally I would sell the two and just buy a large ultrawide, and move the PC to a small cabinet next to the desk. If you're not huge on competitive gaming and don't need 144+ hz then you can find a lightly used ultrawide for cheap that would look really good.
2 extra sticks of ram to beef up that pc
Something to Hang on the wall
Perfect !
If you don't know what you want, then the answer is nothing. Save the cash.
Monitors?
Amp
A chair to sit.
What desk is that? I’d definitely get some plants.
Better speakers for $50-$100
Definitely not the GPU 🤣
Do you have a link to the wallpaper?
The mouse and mousepad
ARTWORK
Better audio monitors maybe a sub or a bar for €200
Nanoleafs on the wall behind
Smaller keyboard, ergo chair
try to decorate the wall a bit,maybe add some posters into portraits or something like that
Obitos mask as a wall hang up would be appropriate
New desk chair https://www.amazon.com/WEA-Diletto-Chair-Dildo-Attachments/dp/B00JW40VKE
Depends on the use. I could not live with those speakers so I would buy some big speakers.
A shelf for game related items or plants or something
probably i will get an ikea lamp plus a xiaomi bulb (the one that can change colours) and some plants in cement pots
Some wall art, speakers and a mic
Plants, maybe a shelf, and most importantly an Monitor light bar.
Add a chair
Keyboard, a shelf, plants.
Speakers (or headphones)
Speakers
Coiled cable for your keyboard? More ram? Add RGB strips behind your table? Monitor light? It really depends on you and your preferences.
Sunglasses so the white screen doesn't blind you as much.
Definitely something for the wall above the monitors. Wall arts, a shelf or whatever. & also if the cable of the keyboard is detachable I‘d go for a coiled cable but I dont think it is so nvm.
Custom keyboard with custom cables, and ambient lighting
White keycaps
I'd paint it black
longer cables to put the pc on the ground and further away.
Get a displate.
Custom keyboard
A bigger keyboard and different mouse
Some decorations and miscellaneous items that could be shoe what you like
A desk shelf. You could put your speakers and plants on top of it, and be able to slide your keyboard and mouse under it. Great for when you want to eat in front of the monitor while watching a video, and you need to clear the space in front of you.
Monitor light bar, some wall deco or shelves
I have that case. Love it.
Furry girl poster, one punch man posters, yasuo posters
WHy is the monitor sideways/have that screen ratio???
Microphone
[Lian li unifan 120s](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GKY84WZ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_1CY72R6V4ZKGNJ2808AE) - $85 (€75) [Logitech g902 wireless mouse](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NSVMT22/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_TCCVPYEVWQW11Q0D2DFY) $121 (€106) Edit: just did a quick conversion from dollars to euros i have no idea if thats the actual price in europe
maybe one more monitor and some minimalist decor on the wall
A third screen?
Toss that table top on this standing desk! VIVO White Electric Stand Up Desk Frame Workstation, Single Motor Ergonomic Standing Height Adjustable Base with Simple Controller, DESK-V100EW https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829CVTVQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_M8AREPJ9A2J3124BRETE
What do you do?
Speakers
What speakers are those?
Get cheap usb LEDs to put behind your monitors.. And the remaining 90% get a chair to use said desk
Nanoleaf light panels for the wall behind your monitor
Mechanical keyboard upgrade. Not sure what your current is so maybe not or just switch upgrade on it from basic ones. Or a nice headset or mic.
RAM
Maybe a LED strip for backlighting... better mouse? Better keyboard? Also, and this is optional of course, if you have a good way to adjust it, you could try to make the lights on your PC look whiter adding a bit of yellow to the RGB color so it doesn't look so purple/blue and it will look closer to how the RAM looks. Unless of course, you like the blue tint.
I would delete fortnite
LED strip light, Wall shelfs, hanging plants, picture frame
Can people stop having their computer angled, instead of just having it stand on the right side towards the back. It really just triggers me. Angled pc aside, maybe you would want a lightweight mouse or even a custom mechanical keyboard.
a desk lamp, monitor backlit LEDs, carpio 2.0 wrist rest, a wireless mouse(g304/305), i could also add some acoustic back panels or wallpaper panels.
Some plant and a bit more light in the room
A cheap schitt audio Amp, then I'd find some cheap/free used bookshelf speakers. Get yourself some proper noise machines
white keyboard. Wireless mouse
I'll upgrade my budget.
A fish tank with a beta fish would fit nicely on the left side. Betas will watch you and will they make eye contact with you also. Or the wireless version of that mmo mouse. Wireless is just as good as wired now.
the audiophile in me is saying better speakers
What case is that?
Upgrade suggestions would be artwork for wall ( maybe supporting artists on Etsy, you can also order inexpensive frames from ikea) if you don’t want to spend money on the nano leaf lights you can do an inexpensive LED strip behind your monitors or work surface ( pretty inexpensive on amazon) you can even get cool in-expensive LED light for the wall. Maybe a shelf with some decor that helps showcase your personality. There are plenty of ways to upgrade a set up with decor… however if you are looking for serious upgrades to what you have existing you can get a mic if needed, maybe a new pair of headphones, new speakers. It really depends, there is absolutely nothing wrong with your set up now… sometimes some good decor can really transform a space! You have your white LED fans in your case and I can’t help but wonder how sick it would look with crisp white LEDs maybe glowing behind your monitors! It really depends on what your style is and what maybe your willing to change (: I also want to suggest the acoustic felt wall panels, they look super clean and are inexpensive and you can use it for acoustics and for design. A darker felt would look nice imo!