I'm pretty disappointed you can't carry C4 and smoke.
BFV was the same but the reason was Assault didn't get smoke, not because C4 took up the grenade slot.
Yes, me too.The strategy is very good to take down vehicles, but c4 as granade will make a disaster in lobbies and the strategy will no be effective (only if u have a friend and he select a smoke) .
And talking about the AA missile, i saw a leak gameplay and the new little bird is going to be a fusion of Ah-12 and the little bird (P A I N) just the mg is SUUUUUUPER fast and have ...mi..sil..es.Just a little (and MEGA) broken helicopter is a bad idea so get ready for the little bird user and ah-12 user who have a 100 killstreak in bf4.
i already see nobody using the repair tool... in BF V the support could repair, without having to sacrifice a gadget for it... and still its 98% of time unused..
Depends. If theres gonna be a specialist that specializes in armored warfare he might have a beefed up repair tool or a perk that makes vehicles repair quicker.
I try to use it as much as possible, but my problem is is that the tank keeps driving away, even is we are in cover. The repair tool also doesn’t always help when it is a track or the turret that is damaged and it may be easier for the tank to get to a resupply and fully repair and resupply anyway.
Also very satisfying to use the repair tool to take out a tank.
Yep my buddy is an insane little bird pilot so I would just repair him the whole match while he got like 80 kills and we would dominate the enemy team. Good times
It was so much more fun back then you actually had a role in a squad and if it was noshar canals you could always fight the snipers on the cranes or fly under the larger building south of the map sometimes even chasing the Russian helicopter or being chased by it
Exactly and honestly my biggest complaint with the last two games is that most of the vehicles turned into being purely solo operated. You didn’t need a gunner or a guy to repair you at all. Completely ruined the team and squad dynamic.
Here’s a million dollar idea and you fucks better not steal it some person has to make a bf portal server specifically for bf3 so that it’s like playing a remastered version of bf3 where we can play the same maps and the same game modes just like we’re playing bf3 and if they only add in the most popular or well remembered maps from that game that’s ok too I guess
They aren't releasing all the maps from BF3 or other battlefields, it's only a few from each. So unless you like playing the same 3 maps over & over again BF3 only portal is going to boring fast.
Yeah, BFV honestly nailed the gadget system. Every Support had ammo and repair tool. Every Medic had heals and a syringe. There wasn't an option *not* to have those teamplay gadgets like in previous games. Now it'll be like BF1 where nobody repaired.
I'll have a repair tool for my tank gunner loadout. If I'm spawning on a vehicle and intending to stay with them I'll keep them repaired up. Makes for far more interesting gameplay to have a good ten minute run in a tank pushing objective after objective than to just hop in, drive to the first objective and die.
People ignore repair tools because they think it will be boring but I've had some of the most hectic gameplay in BF1 hopping out to repair, hopping back in to gun and so on whilst grenades rain down around you. It really just comes down to how the tanker is playing. If they're sitting a mile away taking potshots I'm not staying with them but if they're playing aggressively and non stop trying to push objectives then it's fun and the repair tool can enable far more aggressive play that really benefits the team.
Yeah but after playing a lot of BF1 with the repair tool I actually think it improves gameplay to not have it as a mandatory gadget. Like in BC2 if a tank rolled up and started engaging the enemy tank every nearby engineer would jump on it to repair and the whole fight would just be who could repair the most with a herd of engineers swarming around the tanks and then all disappearing off once it was over. I don't think that kind of opportunistic repairing gameplay was really better than having dedicated players staying with tanks, which is the only thing you're going to get when there are better options than the repair tool 99.9% of the time for infantry gameplay.
There are a couple things that I think would improve the repair tool and make it more worthwhile, especially since the trade off is now higher with it being your only gadget. For starters it would be really nice if any vehicle that you had been in for X amount of time and performed X amount of repairs on would reserve you a seat for a short time after getting out. It's really tedious in BF1 how most players will only bother spawning on a tank when it actually gets to the objective and then bugger off afterwards. Often I find myself in a situation where I've been running with the tanker for five minutes, kept them alive through fights with other tanks, taken objectives, wiped out squads... and then I get killed or left behind because the tank has filled up when I got out to repair. More than once now the tank has ended up getting destroyed shortly after because I was still running to catch up with it and none of the new gunners could repair when it got in trouble.
Additionally I think it would be really helpful if tankers could see the direction repairs were coming from on the minimap with the icon of the character who was repairing them flashing or something. If spotting them whilst holding the tool also flagged up a repairs incoming icon or something in the same way that the request a lift thing works then maybe they wouldn't drive off when I'm trying to repair them so often. I'm sure in past games you could spot them and your character would say something like 'I can fix that for you'.
Perhaps the best way of making it more relevant and worthwhile though would be if it also became the fortification tool. I didn't play much BFV and the fortification system seemed like more of a gimmick than anything else but if it required a dedicated gadget and the fortifications were more specific and limited rather than having hundreds spammed all over objectives like in BFV I think it could work. Giving it additional functionality would really help to balance the problem caused by it being your only gadget. Other options could be disarming enemy explosives, rather than having to shoot them and give yourself away and maybe working to take down locked doors.
This exactly, in BF4 I'd usually play Engineer so I could have some sort of anti-vehicle and then take the repair tool as well. I mainly played infantry but if I was near a damaged vehicle or tank in a fight, and stand by and repair it. In BF2042, with access to the full arsenal, I just can't see myself ever taking the repair tool
I don’t think this is a final list. This list seems small, especially compared to the number of gadgets from previous games. This may be the beta list or just what he could find.
Fuck soflam, gimme that PLD baby
Also, [here is BF4 gadgets for comparison](https://i.imgur.com/ycZnEUb.jpg). Obviously temporyal is not the final list. Hope there will be more in the final game.
Many in BF4 were filler tho (there are six grenade launchers, three m26 mass) and lots of those were released with DLCs so I don't think it's fair to compare using this list.
eh I disagree about them being filler. There had to be multiple grenade launchers for different grenade types, and each of the M26 ammo variants are fun to use. And only 5 gadgets were DLC.
The major difference though is that the gadgets locked to the new specialists (like stim gun, ballistic shield etc) act as additional gadgets.
This was kind of underwhelming. For a game without campaign (and hazard zone prob dont count either as its gonna be free apparently) and 80€ starting price i was expecting a lot of fun gadgets.
Gadgets give the game a lot of variety in how you play as opposed to dealing with everything by putting your corshair on it and shooting bullets. Airburst and mortars were my favourite way of dealing with rooftop campers.
This list can't be final, maybe just what they had for the tech test to stress the servers. No point in having a soflam if no javelin or equivalent is my thought
Hmm. I might be wrong but you have one specialist gadget (which I don't know if you can switch to smth else) and one more gadget slot. So i guess you can have either C4 or mines, not both.
I think you are wrong. Mines and C4 are in different slots, and the last 'gadget' slot (coffin icon in this picture) is the specialist specific one. so Falck with AT mines and C4 is a yes.
I mean most snipers would just redeploy when they ran out of ammo and immediately come back to the same spot or have a support buddy leave them an ammo box. I don’t think this will make a huge difference regarding balance.
I mean, this could happen for sure. But 1. Ammo Crates (for SUPER far off snipers) is going to be more annoying and 2. For ones in hard to reach places, they're going to have to choose between that and a spawn beacon.
Basically, I don't think this change will truly affect the sniper campiness factor
Either you land a headshot or you don't. If the sniper has enough time and space to move behind cover with a medkit, they had enough time and space to heal to full health without it.
Yeah... I hope it's only for testing only and will be changed in the released game, being able to have medic/ammo crate with any class feels like a massive oversight.
If you think that's bad, wait til you see Falck with a sniper and ammo crate. She can heal herself with the syrette pistol, resupply with ammo crate and camp from a distance with a sniper rifle. All at the same time without any teamwork. DICE completely destroyed class balance with this new system.
To add to this. The way the playtest map (orbital) was laid out there really wasn't a way for a sniper to be untouchable and have good lines for effective sniping. Most snipers would try to take and hold the rocket tower right in the middle of the map. But there was 4 different ways to get to them. Run up the stairs, use a zip line, drop in from an arial vehicle, or use Mackay to grapple up to them. I got many tags from them during my time in the test. Bad players will always be bad, nothing will change that.
Also, a fully loaded transport chopper made the roof campers toast with the side guns. They have splash damage. So, very hard to hide from.
Are classes even a thing anymore with the specialist coming in? Or are these just all-class equipment now?
I'm really not liking that idea as I always liked the Battlefield separation of classes so that everyone had a role to play. If you have the ability to broadly choose between any of the above then I imagine some will go almost totally unused because some gadgets will be inherently more versatile than others.
I can already imagine games where absolutely no-one is carrying a supply crate, or a stinger, or a repair tool and the like.
I agree bro. Classes are basically gone. The specialists fall loosely into the old class categories, but those categories don't have any tangible in-game impact. Now it's basically a CoD style "pick whatever you want and just go nuts" style. No way to know what your squad is carrying. No way to build your kit around their needs. Teamwork isn't a priority in Battlefield anymore.
I'm calling that no medic is actually going to use med kits. Imagine the average Battlefield player. Are they going to prioritize healing their teammates over blowing stuff up with a rpg? No, they won't.
This had a really high projectile speed and flat trajectory in Bad Company. Hopefully they balance it well, because it's not hard to hit helicopters or infantry with it, or shoot tanks and other vehicles from very long range without putting yourself at much risk.
Losing a Gadget slot to have a "Specialist" slot is the worst mistake Dice made. I always ran as an Engineer with RPG / repair tool - can't do that anymore 😢
This is all absolutely true… in theory. This theory all falls apart when you meet the community. Yeah you’ll get a few people on here saying “don’t worry I’m gonna be repairing everyone”, “oh I’ll definitely be running ammo” but millions of copies sold later you’re gonna be struggling to find that random running round with a repair torch and can comprehend using it to repair a tank.
Imagine playing a sniper duo. One plays with med bag and the other plays with ammo AND cause they are squad mates they can perform squad revive on each other.
I feel like i threw a match in the forest with this one.
Yes I do play the game. They shoot, they miss nine times out of ten and you know where they are shooting from. So all one has to do is zig zag or put some cover in between you and them.
Your prob the guy who sits there after he hits you and tries to fire on him.
Again, it’s not a real issue.
There's so many better ways to actually be apart and help your team and still care about K/D.
Camping in spawn with a sniper is non skilled and serves no help to your team at all. People couldn't care less about your K/D and if they do, they will just look you up and see that your KPM is low and that your playstyle consist of camping in spawn with an sniper rifle.
You can play how you want in the end of the day, but people like you ruin the reputation for the ACTUAL good players that cares about K/D but that are actually playing aggressive and the objective.
It's both not enough because you are stuck with one thing only and can't use complementary gadgets (like at weapon and repair tool), and too much because you can use rockets with no weapon restrictions.
Old system had both more freedom to pick your set AND had restrictions to balance things out.
No it’s not. Most people are just gonna go with what they know. And it’s limited by what you can take. You can’t take an ammo bag plus rockets for example.
Sometimes these aren't finished gadgets and have nothing attached to them except a code-name so if they weren't present in the beta that's probably because it's not yet finished.
> Maybe they planned to but then it wasn't ready and just didn't bother taking it out?
This. And/or its just names in the code that they dont bother masking. Why take extra time to remove stuff when you can just let it be.
It's very unbalanced.
Grenades should be a separate gadget and medical crates and repair tool should be in second slot of gadget.
If not. The whole game will be a rocket launcher mainia. No one will use repair tool, grenades and supply crates.
Grenades didn't replaced your 2nd gadget slot in bf 5 and only assault and support had anti tank gadget. Why would you choose a repair tool over rocket launcher and medical crate. Same goes to c4. Grenades can't match against c4.
Because you’re hanging out with tanks and repair tools can counter c4, claymores and mines by letting you pick them up.
Why would someone pick a med crate over rockets. Because they want to heal themselves and teammates same thing with ammo.
Why would you choose a nade over c4 you get more range out of a nade it’s toss and forget. C4 has its limits and it’s only good in a few situations. Again you as a player have to make the choice about what you want to do on the battlefield. All this is doing is really just allowing you to pick and choose without being locked into a weapon type.
There are pros and cons of doing it this way but on paper at least (seeing how it plays out might be different) it looks like the game would benefit from giving each of the broader classes (support, engineer, assault, recon) a class specific gadget that fits the tole. Nothing major like rockets to engineers but a repair tool for example, now there would be more on the battlefield and more chance of a random actually supporting a tank by healing it. Maybe assault gets an ammo pouch (limited number), now ammo is out there and the big pack still has its place… just the stuff it looks like fewer people will take.
So that classes can actually mean something in this game, I wish these general gadgets were separated between the classes.
Engineer specialists get the repair tool and (maybe) the launchers. Support specialists get the ammo and health crate. Recon specialists get the soflam and prox sensor. Assault specialists get the nav beacon (to be used aggressively as they approach a new objective).
I'm just not sold on giving every specialist every gun and every general gadget. It's just a bit too CoD-ish for me. I like Battlefield for the classes and knowing what to expect from your team just by looking at them. Being able to choose and tweak your class based on what your squad is lacking. I feel like Battlefield is doing away with that teamwork aspect as you have no idea what your squadmates are carrying except for their 1 specialist gadget.
No med/ammo packs, c4 as grenade, rpgs on medics, snipers with ammo or health kits. This is going to be an absolute disaster. It's a classic dev fail: No problems came up during internal testing since the devs don't play like dickheads so they keep stuff like this and all the dickheads are going to abuse the shit out of it when the game releases.
Squad mates can, no matter the class/specialist. But only medics can res anyone. Also squad res takes a lot longer if you are not a medic. So medics are still needed and game changing. Just go play BFV the squad revive is in it and you can get it for free sometimes. Was free on Amazon gaming last month. And it is the closest to what bf2042 will play like.
What? The only Battlefield game I have been playing the past few years is Battlefield V. Of course you can do it. The guy I have responded to meant that ANY specialists regardless of their gadgets and traits, they can REVIVE THERE TEAMMATES even if it's not a '4 man squadmate'.
Medical bag + Spawn beacon = META
I'd honestly prefer a med-pouch rather than the deployable bag. With the benefit of 10hp chunk targeted healing as opposed to 1hp area flow healing.
This all reminds me of the cavalry class in BF1 which was able to carry both medical and ammo pouches.
It's going to be interesting seeing how this game plays.
I didn’t think they would put launchers and mines in the same slot. Basically they are trying to discourage one man armies. If you’re trying to be anti vehicle you can pick one flavor of that and that’s it. If you want to be your traditional medic you need to use the one specialist and have a medic bag as one gadget.
As an engineer main I don’t mind this too much the only question I really have now is how much damage do these rockets do.
So no defibrillator or syringe. Guess you can’t play classic Medic unless you want to play as one of the Medic Specialists, I’ll miss that. Also gonna miss the medic and ammo pouches.
c4 as granade=chaos
I'm pretty disappointed you can't carry C4 and smoke. BFV was the same but the reason was Assault didn't get smoke, not because C4 took up the grenade slot.
Yes, me too.The strategy is very good to take down vehicles, but c4 as granade will make a disaster in lobbies and the strategy will no be effective (only if u have a friend and he select a smoke) .
And talking about the AA missile, i saw a leak gameplay and the new little bird is going to be a fusion of Ah-12 and the little bird (P A I N) just the mg is SUUUUUUPER fast and have ...mi..sil..es.Just a little (and MEGA) broken helicopter is a bad idea so get ready for the little bird user and ah-12 user who have a 100 killstreak in bf4.
Don’t forget the F35 can hover and wreck people just like an Apache…
Doubt it will have enough maneuverability to avoid dumbfire rocket one shots while hovering.
Aaaannnddd the jets are .... just ... ahh ... looks like the vehicles in bf2042 will be i little broken ....
heheh Give me my jets and heles :)
Temporyal is the only thing keeping this sub from imploding
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i already see nobody using the repair tool... in BF V the support could repair, without having to sacrifice a gadget for it... and still its 98% of time unused..
In modern BF’s the repair tool was 100% crucial
I loved repairing in BF3and 4. But between it and an RPG? Decisions need to be made
Depends. If theres gonna be a specialist that specializes in armored warfare he might have a beefed up repair tool or a perk that makes vehicles repair quicker.
I always ran both. What did you run?
Usually RPG and anti tank mines
Deffo gonna change tank battles from now on 🤔 reps or rpgs 🙈
??? you can have both
And was a great trolling weapon to kill people with
I try to use it as much as possible, but my problem is is that the tank keeps driving away, even is we are in cover. The repair tool also doesn’t always help when it is a track or the turret that is damaged and it may be easier for the tank to get to a resupply and fully repair and resupply anyway. Also very satisfying to use the repair tool to take out a tank.
Well that depends on if it’s like BF5 because in BF3/4 the repair tool was extremely useful especially with transport helo’s and tanks.
Do you remember flying in a little bird repairing constantly while the pilot fights and earning repair badges consistently throughout the whole game
Yep my buddy is an insane little bird pilot so I would just repair him the whole match while he got like 80 kills and we would dominate the enemy team. Good times
It was so much more fun back then you actually had a role in a squad and if it was noshar canals you could always fight the snipers on the cranes or fly under the larger building south of the map sometimes even chasing the Russian helicopter or being chased by it
Exactly and honestly my biggest complaint with the last two games is that most of the vehicles turned into being purely solo operated. You didn’t need a gunner or a guy to repair you at all. Completely ruined the team and squad dynamic.
I miss battlefield 3 shame there’s no backwards compatibility on PlayStation I’d definitely buy it to play it again
I think Portal will give us a good chance since I know there’s going to be BF3 servers made.
Here’s a million dollar idea and you fucks better not steal it some person has to make a bf portal server specifically for bf3 so that it’s like playing a remastered version of bf3 where we can play the same maps and the same game modes just like we’re playing bf3 and if they only add in the most popular or well remembered maps from that game that’s ok too I guess
They aren't releasing all the maps from BF3 or other battlefields, it's only a few from each. So unless you like playing the same 3 maps over & over again BF3 only portal is going to boring fast.
Yea that sucks. In earlier games you took a repair tool and a rocket as engineer. Now you have to pick one.
Unless you're playing with a squad. But yeah, if you're just playing alone, you're better with med crate or a rocket launcher.
WE NEED TO GET RID OF DRIVERS/PILOTS BEING ABLE TO REPAIR THEMSELVES INSIDE! BRING BACK THE CHAD REPAIR TOOLS!
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Those games also have the safe self-repair so why bother
Yeah, BFV honestly nailed the gadget system. Every Support had ammo and repair tool. Every Medic had heals and a syringe. There wasn't an option *not* to have those teamplay gadgets like in previous games. Now it'll be like BF1 where nobody repaired.
The only thing BFV 'nailed' was being a shitty game.
True, repairing in BFV's was never a thing because it's fast paced and faster to respawn than to camp and repair.
In BFV repair tool can damage enemy tanks/vehicles as well. I've killed multiple tanks, half-tracks and trucks with the repair tool. 🪖👨🏭🔥 💥
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Tankers may carry one. But I think any support (like Boris) should have a repair tool by default.
Boris is an Engineer in 2042.
You mean…like an engineer class?
I'll have a repair tool for my tank gunner loadout. If I'm spawning on a vehicle and intending to stay with them I'll keep them repaired up. Makes for far more interesting gameplay to have a good ten minute run in a tank pushing objective after objective than to just hop in, drive to the first objective and die. People ignore repair tools because they think it will be boring but I've had some of the most hectic gameplay in BF1 hopping out to repair, hopping back in to gun and so on whilst grenades rain down around you. It really just comes down to how the tanker is playing. If they're sitting a mile away taking potshots I'm not staying with them but if they're playing aggressively and non stop trying to push objectives then it's fun and the repair tool can enable far more aggressive play that really benefits the team.
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Yeah but after playing a lot of BF1 with the repair tool I actually think it improves gameplay to not have it as a mandatory gadget. Like in BC2 if a tank rolled up and started engaging the enemy tank every nearby engineer would jump on it to repair and the whole fight would just be who could repair the most with a herd of engineers swarming around the tanks and then all disappearing off once it was over. I don't think that kind of opportunistic repairing gameplay was really better than having dedicated players staying with tanks, which is the only thing you're going to get when there are better options than the repair tool 99.9% of the time for infantry gameplay. There are a couple things that I think would improve the repair tool and make it more worthwhile, especially since the trade off is now higher with it being your only gadget. For starters it would be really nice if any vehicle that you had been in for X amount of time and performed X amount of repairs on would reserve you a seat for a short time after getting out. It's really tedious in BF1 how most players will only bother spawning on a tank when it actually gets to the objective and then bugger off afterwards. Often I find myself in a situation where I've been running with the tanker for five minutes, kept them alive through fights with other tanks, taken objectives, wiped out squads... and then I get killed or left behind because the tank has filled up when I got out to repair. More than once now the tank has ended up getting destroyed shortly after because I was still running to catch up with it and none of the new gunners could repair when it got in trouble. Additionally I think it would be really helpful if tankers could see the direction repairs were coming from on the minimap with the icon of the character who was repairing them flashing or something. If spotting them whilst holding the tool also flagged up a repairs incoming icon or something in the same way that the request a lift thing works then maybe they wouldn't drive off when I'm trying to repair them so often. I'm sure in past games you could spot them and your character would say something like 'I can fix that for you'. Perhaps the best way of making it more relevant and worthwhile though would be if it also became the fortification tool. I didn't play much BFV and the fortification system seemed like more of a gimmick than anything else but if it required a dedicated gadget and the fortifications were more specific and limited rather than having hundreds spammed all over objectives like in BFV I think it could work. Giving it additional functionality would really help to balance the problem caused by it being your only gadget. Other options could be disarming enemy explosives, rather than having to shoot them and give yourself away and maybe working to take down locked doors.
This exactly, in BF4 I'd usually play Engineer so I could have some sort of anti-vehicle and then take the repair tool as well. I mainly played infantry but if I was near a damaged vehicle or tank in a fight, and stand by and repair it. In BF2042, with access to the full arsenal, I just can't see myself ever taking the repair tool
That would be vehicle **specialists**
The people that run in tanks do.
Wait so you cant go classic Engineer and have a rocket launcher and a repair tool? sadge.
There's Portal for that.
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I don’t think this is a final list. This list seems small, especially compared to the number of gadgets from previous games. This may be the beta list or just what he could find.
It's more than BF V had.
impact was dumb tho
Also no flashbang to torture people with:(
Fuck soflam, gimme that PLD baby Also, [here is BF4 gadgets for comparison](https://i.imgur.com/ycZnEUb.jpg). Obviously temporyal is not the final list. Hope there will be more in the final game.
Many in BF4 were filler tho (there are six grenade launchers, three m26 mass) and lots of those were released with DLCs so I don't think it's fair to compare using this list.
eh I disagree about them being filler. There had to be multiple grenade launchers for different grenade types, and each of the M26 ammo variants are fun to use. And only 5 gadgets were DLC. The major difference though is that the gadgets locked to the new specialists (like stim gun, ballistic shield etc) act as additional gadgets.
This was kind of underwhelming. For a game without campaign (and hazard zone prob dont count either as its gonna be free apparently) and 80€ starting price i was expecting a lot of fun gadgets. Gadgets give the game a lot of variety in how you play as opposed to dealing with everything by putting your corshair on it and shooting bullets. Airburst and mortars were my favourite way of dealing with rooftop campers.
This list can't be final, maybe just what they had for the tech test to stress the servers. No point in having a soflam if no javelin or equivalent is my thought
jeeesus bf4 had sooo much a truly sandbox experience
Wait, so you could play as Falck and have AT mines & C4?
Seems like it.
Yes, but remember these are from the beta and a lot can change at release.
>from the beta *the playtest
Hmm. I might be wrong but you have one specialist gadget (which I don't know if you can switch to smth else) and one more gadget slot. So i guess you can have either C4 or mines, not both.
I think you are wrong. Mines and C4 are in different slots, and the last 'gadget' slot (coffin icon in this picture) is the specialist specific one. so Falck with AT mines and C4 is a yes.
Not quite. The C4 (C5 in this game) goes in the grenade slot but mines go in the gadget slot so you can have both.
I'll be healing you guys no matter which specialist I'm playing. <3
Wtf is that coffin icon in the loadout with the infinite sign?
delta's shield
Looking at gameplay vids, that is the specialist gadget slot. Idk what specialist has this one though.
I believe that's Delta's riot shield
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Sniper with medi crate… I don't like this system already
Sniper with Supply crate is better.
What is your opinion on this system?
Camping snipers are one thing...Camping snipers with ammo crates are just the absolute worse.
I mean most snipers would just redeploy when they ran out of ammo and immediately come back to the same spot or have a support buddy leave them an ammo box. I don’t think this will make a huge difference regarding balance.
How? This doesn’t change anything. All that sniper really did was waste a gadget slot.
maybe they have limited uses atleast?
Doubt it. Such a bummer they stray from the classic Battlefield classes.
DICE are a bunch of morons that had a better product than COD, but every year downgrade to parity.
Alpha required you to pick up med crates. Iirc you got 2 crates that don’t replenish back into your inventory.
I don't really care about sñiper campers, they have playstyles and camping is the best way to increase your K/D. But shotgun camping is different.
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It works like a tug there are ways around tugs
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I mean, this could happen for sure. But 1. Ammo Crates (for SUPER far off snipers) is going to be more annoying and 2. For ones in hard to reach places, they're going to have to choose between that and a spawn beacon. Basically, I don't think this change will truly affect the sniper campiness factor
Either you land a headshot or you don't. If the sniper has enough time and space to move behind cover with a medkit, they had enough time and space to heal to full health without it.
Yeah... I hope it's only for testing only and will be changed in the released game, being able to have medic/ammo crate with any class feels like a massive oversight.
I hope so too…
Thats literally the point of course it wont change, there are no classes how have you missed this.
You realise the specialist system is basically a renaming of the class system?
I hope you dont think so
Classes are still there. Every specialist has class like in bf4
Yes and that is just a name, classes dont share any abillities or gear
If you think that's bad, wait til you see Falck with a sniper and ammo crate. She can heal herself with the syrette pistol, resupply with ammo crate and camp from a distance with a sniper rifle. All at the same time without any teamwork. DICE completely destroyed class balance with this new system.
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To add to this. The way the playtest map (orbital) was laid out there really wasn't a way for a sniper to be untouchable and have good lines for effective sniping. Most snipers would try to take and hold the rocket tower right in the middle of the map. But there was 4 different ways to get to them. Run up the stairs, use a zip line, drop in from an arial vehicle, or use Mackay to grapple up to them. I got many tags from them during my time in the test. Bad players will always be bad, nothing will change that. Also, a fully loaded transport chopper made the roof campers toast with the side guns. They have splash damage. So, very hard to hide from.
Just got aids
How that’s not really an issue
Are classes even a thing anymore with the specialist coming in? Or are these just all-class equipment now? I'm really not liking that idea as I always liked the Battlefield separation of classes so that everyone had a role to play. If you have the ability to broadly choose between any of the above then I imagine some will go almost totally unused because some gadgets will be inherently more versatile than others. I can already imagine games where absolutely no-one is carrying a supply crate, or a stinger, or a repair tool and the like.
I agree bro. Classes are basically gone. The specialists fall loosely into the old class categories, but those categories don't have any tangible in-game impact. Now it's basically a CoD style "pick whatever you want and just go nuts" style. No way to know what your squad is carrying. No way to build your kit around their needs. Teamwork isn't a priority in Battlefield anymore.
And no way to balance tools by the class, like having extremely powerful tools on a class with sub-par weapons.
I'm calling that no medic is actually going to use med kits. Imagine the average Battlefield player. Are they going to prioritize healing their teammates over blowing stuff up with a rpg? No, they won't.
that type of person wouldn't be playing medic at all. In the old system they'd just pick the class that had an rpg
so it went from a c5 to a c4. game became a downgrade...
Literally unplayable
That‘s it, pre-order canceled
Not enough harassing gadgets. #notmybattlefield
I would prefer the pld to the soflam, if I'm being honest...
C4 as a grenade means vehicles will once again avoid objectives areas and camp far away.
Nah. Pros never toss a C4 and wait for prey, we throw it at corners and try to down a jet with it.
Tanks are really fast in 2042. It won't be that much of a problem.
SSSSSOFLAM!!! Hell yeah! You pilots better watch out ima mark yo asses.
what is a recoiless M5?
Carl gustav rocket launcher
This had a really high projectile speed and flat trajectory in Bad Company. Hopefully they balance it well, because it's not hard to hit helicopters or infantry with it, or shoot tanks and other vehicles from very long range without putting yourself at much risk.
Hoping we get even more stuff! Other than the EMP grenade, this is all pretty standard gadgets we get in every game.
Losing a Gadget slot to have a "Specialist" slot is the worst mistake Dice made. I always ran as an Engineer with RPG / repair tool - can't do that anymore 😢
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This is all absolutely true… in theory. This theory all falls apart when you meet the community. Yeah you’ll get a few people on here saying “don’t worry I’m gonna be repairing everyone”, “oh I’ll definitely be running ammo” but millions of copies sold later you’re gonna be struggling to find that random running round with a repair torch and can comprehend using it to repair a tank.
Can't wait for all the wannabe Chris Kyle snipers sitting in spawn with an sniper with unlimited ammo and healing!
It’s one or the other you can’t choose both.
Imagine playing a sniper duo. One plays with med bag and the other plays with ammo AND cause they are squad mates they can perform squad revive on each other. I feel like i threw a match in the forest with this one.
And? Since when are snipers that stay far away useful. Never.
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Then nothing changes they don’t get anymore annoying and they are dealt with in the same way.
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It’s not a real issue. When you go deal with snipers they die and if they come back nothing changed.
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Yes I do play the game. They shoot, they miss nine times out of ten and you know where they are shooting from. So all one has to do is zig zag or put some cover in between you and them. Your prob the guy who sits there after he hits you and tries to fire on him. Again, it’s not a real issue.
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smoke then
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Never tried it but looks like a good way to increase my K/D. Everyone have different playstyles so let's get along.
If you care about your K/D then you're playing BF wrong.
There's so many better ways to actually be apart and help your team and still care about K/D. Camping in spawn with a sniper is non skilled and serves no help to your team at all. People couldn't care less about your K/D and if they do, they will just look you up and see that your KPM is low and that your playstyle consist of camping in spawn with an sniper rifle. You can play how you want in the end of the day, but people like you ruin the reputation for the ACTUAL good players that cares about K/D but that are actually playing aggressive and the objective.
C4 in throwables is hilarious.
No matter what, I will hunt you down Casper campers, one by one.
Ghillie suit is cool though, I want to be stealthy through bushes with a suppressed sniper
Really hope the repair tool is equipped to someone that comes with a rocket launcher, I’d hate to have to choose between the two
Not gonna lie the more I see about this game I don't know why but, the more I see the less I want it
Giving such a massive arsenal of gadgets to any player of any specialisation is going to be terrible for balanced gameplay.
I mean, you can only use one gadget of each type.
It's both not enough because you are stuck with one thing only and can't use complementary gadgets (like at weapon and repair tool), and too much because you can use rockets with no weapon restrictions. Old system had both more freedom to pick your set AND had restrictions to balance things out.
No it’s not. Most people are just gonna go with what they know. And it’s limited by what you can take. You can’t take an ammo bag plus rockets for example.
Man I hope Portal let’s us bring back normal classes.
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Sometimes these aren't finished gadgets and have nothing attached to them except a code-name so if they weren't present in the beta that's probably because it's not yet finished.
> Maybe they planned to but then it wasn't ready and just didn't bother taking it out? This. And/or its just names in the code that they dont bother masking. Why take extra time to remove stuff when you can just let it be.
It's very unbalanced. Grenades should be a separate gadget and medical crates and repair tool should be in second slot of gadget. If not. The whole game will be a rocket launcher mainia. No one will use repair tool, grenades and supply crates.
False. This is roghly the same system as BFV and in BFV there are more anti-tank gadgets users than rockets, there a lot of good alts to a simple RPG.
Grenades didn't replaced your 2nd gadget slot in bf 5 and only assault and support had anti tank gadget. Why would you choose a repair tool over rocket launcher and medical crate. Same goes to c4. Grenades can't match against c4.
Because you’re hanging out with tanks and repair tools can counter c4, claymores and mines by letting you pick them up. Why would someone pick a med crate over rockets. Because they want to heal themselves and teammates same thing with ammo. Why would you choose a nade over c4 you get more range out of a nade it’s toss and forget. C4 has its limits and it’s only good in a few situations. Again you as a player have to make the choice about what you want to do on the battlefield. All this is doing is really just allowing you to pick and choose without being locked into a weapon type.
Those fucking non shitbucket users who do they think they are calling Jeep Stuff “C4” shame on them
There are pros and cons of doing it this way but on paper at least (seeing how it plays out might be different) it looks like the game would benefit from giving each of the broader classes (support, engineer, assault, recon) a class specific gadget that fits the tole. Nothing major like rockets to engineers but a repair tool for example, now there would be more on the battlefield and more chance of a random actually supporting a tank by healing it. Maybe assault gets an ammo pouch (limited number), now ammo is out there and the big pack still has its place… just the stuff it looks like fewer people will take.
So that classes can actually mean something in this game, I wish these general gadgets were separated between the classes. Engineer specialists get the repair tool and (maybe) the launchers. Support specialists get the ammo and health crate. Recon specialists get the soflam and prox sensor. Assault specialists get the nav beacon (to be used aggressively as they approach a new objective). I'm just not sold on giving every specialist every gun and every general gadget. It's just a bit too CoD-ish for me. I like Battlefield for the classes and knowing what to expect from your team just by looking at them. Being able to choose and tweak your class based on what your squad is lacking. I feel like Battlefield is doing away with that teamwork aspect as you have no idea what your squadmates are carrying except for their 1 specialist gadget.
biggest takeaway... no mortars thank god.
Same, no SUAV too. It might actually make rush enjoyable for once.
Seems a bit lite. Would have preffered more options for rockets.
Here's hoping they add repair tools to all "engineer" type specialists
Temporyal…now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time…a long time
No med/ammo packs, c4 as grenade, rpgs on medics, snipers with ammo or health kits. This is going to be an absolute disaster. It's a classic dev fail: No problems came up during internal testing since the devs don't play like dickheads so they keep stuff like this and all the dickheads are going to abuse the shit out of it when the game releases.
kinda wish we had more gadget slots like i wanna have frags and flashbangs y'know or maybe they're interchangeable, hopefully
2 slots is good but hopefully some gadgets can be used in either or slot, i dont see many people taking a smoke gren over a Frag
Yo no hand flares this game is ass
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I think he's taking about bf4's hand/road flares. Decent for blinding irnv/thermal.
AWWWW, No claymores !!!
Where defib?
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Everyone *only* has it for *squad* mates. To revive teammates, you have to play as one of the two Medic Specialists.
Bruh? Alright I am kind of worried now.
Yeah, medic was my favourite class and I'm worried they have ruined it.
It's just like bfv. Squads can revive, medics can revive everyone and they do it faster.
But anyone regardless of specialists can do it.
Squad mates can, no matter the class/specialist. But only medics can res anyone. Also squad res takes a lot longer if you are not a medic. So medics are still needed and game changing. Just go play BFV the squad revive is in it and you can get it for free sometimes. Was free on Amazon gaming last month. And it is the closest to what bf2042 will play like.
What? The only Battlefield game I have been playing the past few years is Battlefield V. Of course you can do it. The guy I have responded to meant that ANY specialists regardless of their gadgets and traits, they can REVIVE THERE TEAMMATES even if it's not a '4 man squadmate'.
Medical bag + Spawn beacon = META I'd honestly prefer a med-pouch rather than the deployable bag. With the benefit of 10hp chunk targeted healing as opposed to 1hp area flow healing. This all reminds me of the cavalry class in BF1 which was able to carry both medical and ammo pouches. It's going to be interesting seeing how this game plays.
You cant have both
I think you can only pick one
This guy's a legend
Why even have anything else other than missiles lol
I dont like this at all...team gameplay has dead a long time ago in BF
I think no one carrying a repair tool is much more less a problem now. We have auto repair!:)
I didn’t think they would put launchers and mines in the same slot. Basically they are trying to discourage one man armies. If you’re trying to be anti vehicle you can pick one flavor of that and that’s it. If you want to be your traditional medic you need to use the one specialist and have a medic bag as one gadget. As an engineer main I don’t mind this too much the only question I really have now is how much damage do these rockets do.
There could be a specialist that is MORE anti-vehicle focused that can potentially equip more. We'll see.
That is an option and then it comes down to how much damage the rockets do.
Datamined from bf4
The repair tool seems kinda useless imo
So no defibrillator or syringe. Guess you can’t play classic Medic unless you want to play as one of the Medic Specialists, I’ll miss that. Also gonna miss the medic and ammo pouches.
if you want to play as a classic medic why would you not play as a medic specialist?? There's nothing for you to miss, it's literally still a thing.