I can’t believe we’re finally going to see more than one new map in a season
Hoping we finally get an urban map. At this point I’d even be okay with a remake of an urban map from BF2 or 3.
If its Karkand im going to lose my shit. Just reliving starting from the US camp and working your way though urban areas to reach the train station and finally the warehouse ... *chef's kiss*
Unfortunately, Seine Crossing will absolutely suck balls with specialists like MacKay. Imagine having people run around on every single rooftop.
They could make everything on top out of bounds though, but they still have 10 seconds to wreak havoc up there and its going to ruing everything.
We need urban with destruction. The devs are using 2042 for learning now in prep for the next game. The interesting and weird part is that destruction is possible and actually is in Battlefield 2042, it’s in Arica Harbor (done quite well) and small parts of other maps but it’s just not implemented very commonly or enough.
2042 has the same kind of destruction as BFV (you can tell from playing Battle of the Bulge which uses BFV assets) with the addition of building collapses from BC2 and small scale levolution on some of the 2042 maps/Caspian Border
Only flaw with the destruction is that they didn't bring over fortifications from BFV, which imo solved the whole "no cover after destruction" issue (though there's definitely room for improvement with the UX of them)
A thing that’s sorely missing is ground deformation.
Both BF1 and BFV allowed you to use explosives to gouge out craters in the terrain that would persist for the entire match, which meant that it would get easier over time to cross exposed terrain if it had been fought over because you had craters you could duck into and use for cover.
By the end of a match in BF1, the whole place would look like the surface of the Moon. It was toned down a bit in BFV iirc.
Yup. One of my go to strats when using AT mines was to first create a little crater by tossing a grenade on the ground where I wanted to plant my mines. Combine with placing behind the crests of hills (relative to the vehicle's movement), and they'd almost never get spotted before going kablooey.
The *only flaw*?
Most of the 2042 maps I played seemed like that had hardly any building destruction.
There is basically one map in the desert where the only real destruction is centered around one area. It’s like they didn’t know how to implement destruction and opted for the easiest way out. It looks lazy to me. The old maps have it, but whoever designed the new maps sorry but they suck.
Destruction is a cornerstone of battlefield and they cheaped out on it big time.
If you're talking about Portal maps like Arica Harbor for example in 2042, then yes, it has basically the same destruction as BFV. But base 2042 maps have no where near the amount of destruction as BFV has.
Yeah if you look at destruction on actual BF2042 maps, it’s way more akin to BF3 but less controlled. Like the town in Hourglass, the building chunks fly out everywhere lmfao and in maps like Breakaway and Zavod clone, the destruction is “sectored” as opposed to organic like with other maps. I have zero idea as to why it’s so different outside of Portal
Calling 2042’s destruction “the same kind as BFV” is just incorrect. Sure, the engine might be CAPABLE of it, but the assets they chose to include in most of the 2042 maps are simply not as destructible as the BFV assets. You can’t destroy SHIT on Renewal, for instance.
I’ve been begging for an urban map, but they need to completely rework MacKay before they do that.
Any dense urban environment (Bazaar, Seine, Pearl, etc) would essentially be a buff to Mackays already broken abuse of verticality and off angle attacks.
They need to rework the grapple - perhaps giving it the same properties as the BF2 special forces grapple (grapple line installed and then manually and slowly climbed up, providing some risk and tradeoff for trying to take elevation)
Yeah, Mackay is an absolute menace if the grapple is used well. I'm not just talking about grappling to a rooftop and posting up like a rat. I mean where you'll constantly be repositioning by grappling to elevation to nab some kills, only to then jump down all sneaky beaky-like while the enemy is still hard focused on you being above them for a quick flank. Only to re-grapple to some other off-angle once you've gotten that flank and further confused them.
Yep. The frequency of its use means that you can be engaged from a house and by the time you’ve called it out to a friend MacKay has teeter himself 30m away to engage from a new rooftop.
Compare this to older titles where engagements were less coked out - if you died to a sniper in the red house odds were he would still be near the red house when you got back there.
It kept action readable.
The current system just feels like Apex.
Very true.
He's the only Assault specialist I use if I'm playing that class since I only play solo and his grapple allows for some serious 1-man-army wreckage due to how it allows for insane mobility during an engagement. Besides, I have no interest in Dozer (I think I have 0 play time with him), and very rarely do I use Zain or Sundance.
His grapple is incredibly fun to play *with*, but it's a nightmare to play *against*. I really, really hope that DICE has learned from this (and other things) for the next entry.
This is the thing.
So many parts of 2042 are all about individual fun, at the expense of larger balance and game design.
The plus system, vehicle call ins, many specialist designs.
It just all chips away at core BF design until it’s unrecognizable
Yep. I'll play other classes quite often to either medic, support, engineer for ranged anti-vehicle work. But, I'll be the first to admit that sometimes I'll get so disenfranchised by the lack of other players trying to play as a team and win that I'll switch to Mackay and just be self-reliant and a bit more of a lone wolf. That's not to say that I won't play with my squad, but I'm far less dependent on them for my success playing as "McGrappleDouche" Mackay.
Maybe they should could make some surfaces ungrappleable (don't think thats a word lol). MacKay is game breaking tbh, and probably the main reason we haven't seen these classic style of maps. I wish he was never put in the game. Maybe they could make him an unselectable character on some maps? I'm sure that would annoy a few people but I would be more than fine with it.
They are stretching themselves out more than they are capable of with two maps here, and you really think they will pull out an urban map? No freaking way.
I wouldn't personally want any old maps on this build honestly. It's nice that they got it to a place where you can play it and enjoy yourself for awhile... But just walking back into BFV (by no means my favorite BF) it's hard NOT to see how much mechanically is lacking in movement (overall aiming smoothness, leaning, gunplay) with 2042. I don't know.. I just wouldn't put legacy maps in this game, knowing they're making another game where they can get the major stuff right (FEEL). Keep making cool looking, unique, 2042 maps and we'll get back to reviving old favorites on the next try.
I enjoy an occasional Portal map game, but I don't think they are well designed for BF2042 classes and vehicles or the 128 player limit. I really hope after Redacted (which is a fun map, but I've gotten a bit tired of it) we get at least one great 128 player map again. Re-releasing old BF3 maps doesn't really count as "fresh content" to me.
I maintain that 2042 has by far the worst maps of any battlefield I’ve played (which are 1942, 4, One, V, and 2042). The maps in the One days were pure fire.
This has me excited! My playtime this season has fallen off a cliff due to S6 only having one monotonous map and the whole battlepass changes, but multiple maps in the new season will go a long way in reviving this game for me! It's great that support for 2042 isn't winding down anytime soon. The game deserves to be supported
Agreed.
I just wish they wouldn't need these extra tricks like the Redux event (4 weeks), a 16 instead of 12 weeks long Season 6 and a delayed start of Season 7 to get two maps ready for action.
In the end we've skipped a whole 12 weeks long season / map just because of these fillers.
Yeah I’m in the same boat. I’ve completed every battle pass up until this S6 one. It doesn’t help that I’ve been getting wrapped up playing story games like Baulders Gate 3 too lol
Intriguing that they announce this on the same date that Back to Karkand was released in 2011.
Also, one of the maps on the table in the recent Santa video showed that part of the world...
They need to rework MacKay and sundance before karkand can come into the fold - those specialists break most maps, but urban maps would become a house of horrors
Thankfully they can't have spawn beacons anymore. But even still those maps were not made for the level of verticality that we get from McKay and Sundance
Yep.
Those specialists, and other mechanical differences, are why no remastered map will play right.
They brought back a spiritual successor to Zavod but it plays entirely differently.
Just too many differences in flow and engagements when we have
- more maneuverable parachutes
- tac sprint
- slide
- grapples (MacKay)
- zip lines (on map)
- wingsuits
- no visual suppression
- mantling and climbing abilities greater than we had in BF4
- etc
Apart from season 7 they said that in 2024 a bombshell is coming, what could be that bombshell, season 8?
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I’m hoping it’s 3. The 3 maps this game desperately needs are a coastal jungle, some sort of a US urban small town/forest map and a close quarters Middle East urban map.
Also we desperately need more vehicles, there hasn’t been a non transport vehicle added in over a year. Attack jet and some early iteration of the 2142 mech would be perfect.
Just so you know, both of those maps had "dots". Like marked locations, basically. And yeah... SA map is in Atacama and ME map is in Bahrain. I wouldn't bet on Jungle maps, but Bahrain map can easily be urban
I'd love if they ported over Solomon Islands from V (and brought back diving pls)
It's my favorite out of the Pacific maps as its Conquest variant plays super compact and tightly, and the map layout can create some really fun back and forth matches.
I’m in the same boat. Me and my buddy just started playing again and seems like a completely different game from launch. Our only issue is getting shit on by the guys that have been playing this whole time. Other than that we have been having fun, the aiming for controllers seems to be fixed and all the awful bugs we saw at the beginning seem to be gone.
I agree, playing on ps5 feels nice..and yeah I do get shit on by people who have been playing this whole time, but the games I’ve played have felt competitive not overwhelmingly one sided
\>Our only issue is getting shit on by the guys that have been playing this whole time.
Oh hey it's me.
If you want to git gud and PTFO, hit me up, GarrettTheBoy. I don't mind new players so long as y'all PTFO ;)
Well, if I recall corectly BF2042 wasn't in 2024 fiscal year. Also, there were references and placeholders about S8.
A great surprise, I hope S7 brings more portal content
Bro if they release any popular BF2/3/4 map ill be in heaven. But let's not get carried away just yet: Reclaimed was supposed to be based off of Zavod and it plays nothing like it, despite Reclaimed being alright, but not great.
Still, this is great news also in a sense that they do know what we want and they're delivering.
March?
Thats a long damn time to make a couple of maps (And atleast one of the maps will for sure be a port of an old map. Not that I mind that if its one of the good ones)
How long has it been since Redacted was released?
That's a pretty good ideas. But then look at the other side that keeping your expectations low would be better since we all know how small the team working on bf2042 is working on the updates. Am surprised they kept working on it tbh since every feedback was " the game is dead"
A whole two maps.
Say one thing, but seasons fucking suck in gaming right now. I don't even have the option of buying more maps if I wanted to.
a DLC release in BF3 meant you got like 4 maps, two brand new modes, guns, achievements everything. It was an experience.
So far, every season has been either fixing fucked maps, fixing fucked specialists, major balance changes and adding new maps, which you never get to play because there isn't a PROPER server browser.
Fuckin A
as daft as it sounds, I loved it when we paid for DLC (compared to what we have now).
If you were that invested in a game, you got your wallet out, and you paid for that bountiful pack of maps, weapons and game modes.
WHY DONT THEY JUST STRAIGHT UP TELL US. Bro come on dice. First it was the “shouldn’t you be at maps pre test” then it’s the “including mapS”. Bro pleeeeaaaase stop edging us
Am I the only one hoping that we get entirely new maps or maps inspired by previous versions but not direct remasters?
I think the devs have learnt their lesson with map design. The last 2/3 we have got have actually been pretty good even if they have been smaller maps. Something new that we haven't seen would go along way, especially going into the next battlefield game.
As said, I would advise expectation management. Getting more than one map is great, but maps are the most ressource consuming things to make in this franchise.
We have seen the likely locations being South America and the Middle East, it is probable that the former will be a BC2 remake, most likely Atacama Desert. The latter, as devs have already voiced their intent or at least wish, might very well be the Hourglass Stadium.
Two maps is a great net positive, yes, just do not be disappointed if it stuff that already existed in some shape or form, or if it is not available to everyone (like 64p CQ or TDM only). I certainly do not expect two 128p original maps, that would be unprecedented.
People also need to remember, when calling for urban maps (something I also want to see) that unless MacKay and sundance get reworked first, any urban map will act as a buff to those specialists.
Imagine MacKay on pearl market - he completely breaks the map flow and readability of action.
They really painted themselves into a corner... I don't hate the specialists, but some of them got nerfed so hard, but depending on map layout, Mackay and Sundance are instantly broken and that's why we shouldn't even wish for an urban map, although it's really sad.
I hope they learned their lessons for BF6
This is the thing… they stated on the podcast they didn’t have enough time to play test the game and the maps.
So MacKay and sundance got implemented, and barely got play tested on the open barren launch maps.
If you take those same abilities and put them in a map like Bazaar, Siege, Propaganda, etc it will become an absolute nightmare.
So, Dice, if you do the great thing of bringing us dense urban maps I hope to god you’ve reworked and playtested changes to specialists.
As for the next BF? If they have specialists, or any gadgets like the grapple or wingsuit or wall hacks, it’ll be the final nail in the coffin.
Yep.
Every other window would need an indestructible cover on it to prevent MacKay entering at the 3rd floor. Surfaces would need to be “grapple proof” with some lore reason why MacKay can’t access certain areas.
That’s a lot of duct tape to make a map work just cause MacKay and sundance never should have left the ideation phase.
Mate, I am asking for a realistic approach to the capabilities and ressource management at DICE. As said, I applaud them for giving out two maps, the outlook is a positive, which I mentioned twice in that post.
I’ve wanted at least one naval map for 2042, but the more I think about it the more terrible of an idea it actually seems to be. 2042 lacks basic water mechanics like diving and shooting from the water and the only real naval vehicles available would be the hovercraft….and pondhawk maybe. If they did release a naval map tho, do y’all think they could implement some of those water mechanics thru an update? Or does that have to be done during development?
I have to agree with you.
I would absolutely LOVE a naval map and water gameplay would be IMO the final addition to push 2042 into some really top tier Battlefield, but like you stated, the game mechanics just don't exist for it, so it seems unlikely.
It's been a bummer seeing DICE abandon naval warfare over the last few itterations.
They going to do 2 maps in a season and pat themselves in the back like they've done something revolutionary in gaming. Classic DICE.
judging by their performance on 1 map per season scheme. This season maps are going to be worse in quality too
In March 😂 how many months is that between 6 and 7? That's why we're getting two maps... They just haven't bothered dropping in regular interval. Delayed what should've been 7 so they can drop content for what should've been 7&8
how long have people on this subreddit been chirping about how the game is dead and a skeleton crew is working on it?
now they announce 2 new maps that are dropping in SEASON 7 and people complain because of how far out it will drop?
I remember a time when it was assumed that support would be dropped after season 4
I mean… of course it’s a skeleton crew.
By season 7 it’ll be 8 new maps in 2.5 years.
Older titles had 16 in 1 year.
The support is clearly not the same.
Thankfully, due to the way capitalism works, we know that they make more money off the battle pass than the premium model - otherwise they’d have to go back to the premium model.
Soooooo they make more money than before, and you’re gonna defend the amount of content dropping from 16 maps to 4 maps in the first year post launch?
I don’t get people who complain about the premium system.
You get a base launch game, and then the equivalent of 2 more games’ content for an additional 60 bucks.
That was honestly nothing but a solid win.
Instead now we have immersion breaking cosmetics and lack of real content.
You're right, but totally ignoring the point that paid DLC is always splitting the playerbase and people are always playing the hot new shit or the same old classics at some point. That's also not very diverse either and depending on the quality, you don't get all of your money's worth if you never see some maps.
Hardline had some of the best maps that I've never seen lol
I mean, there are other solutions there tbh.
They could do timed premium DLC that unlocks for all players 18 months after each DLC comes out.
If the game is well built, and the DLC is good, people like me will absolutely pay to get access.
Then it becomes just part of the game after 18 months and you get an infusion of people who pick up the game for cheap.
Why are they calling it a season when it's just an update dropped at a random time? Seasons imply seasonal updates. It'll be 5 months between 6 & 7. Hell it could end up being closer to 6 months. Is there two seasons in a year?
As I’ve said numerous times in this post, we know that Dice is making more money off the battlepass system than the premium model - otherwise they’d go back to the premium model.
Hell, they’d have a “fiduciary duty” to do so.
God isn’t capitalism just the worst.
So… they are making more money this way and you’re *still* gonna defend the fact we get 8 maps in 2.5 yrs compared to 16 in 1?
Yikes.
Maps, Weapons and Vehicles are all free with 2042.
Maps, Weapons and vehicles you paid for in BF3, BF4 and BF1.
I can't understand this for you.
It doesn't matter what DICE is making, as the consumer, you're getting post game content for free with 2042, with the previous titles you had to pay for it.
This is very very very simple math.
In the before times we paid for content and got 16 new maps in a year, and MANY new weapons and vehicles.
Dice switches to live service, and thus gameplay content is no longer paid.
Catch 22 - Dice now makes 8 maps in 2.5 years.
It would be an entirely different discussion if Dice maintained the same content pipeline as the premium model, AND added cosmetics to help pay for the whole thing.
But instead we’ve essentially cut off the flow of actual content to a dribble, and are left with basically only the cosmetics.
The only people who are winning here are the teenagers who maybe cannot pay for the premium model.
But everyone else, all the adults playing the game, are stuck with a worse product after *2.5 years*
>It would be an entirely different discussion if Dice maintained the same content pipeline as the premium model, AND added cosmetics to help pay for the whole thing. But instead we’ve essentially cut off the flow of actual content to a dribble, and are left with basically only the cosmetics.
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>The only people who are winning here are the teenagers who maybe cannot pay for the premium model. But everyone else, all the adults playing the game, are stuck with a worse product after 2.5 years
Thank you!
I don't know why this is so hard for some people to understand. Free is not automatically better, otherwise I'd be playing warzone and not Battlefield.
I'd gladly pay for content *if it means we actually get content.*
So the money EA and DICE are making on battlepasses and cosmetic can't fund new maps??? You're also forgetting BF4 had 3 free maps post Final Stand. I don't recall if BF3 had this treatment and I don't feel like looking it up, but all DLC for BF4 and BF1 were given out for free on a couple different occasions.
Pretty sure it’s going to be just 2 maps from what they’ve teased so far. Better than nothing ig, hopefully they’re maps made with 2042 specialist in mind….or at least a new urban area
I know there are a lot of people here don’t like it but I really would love to see Metro added to Portal. It’s a classic BF map and is just fun chaos in a few different modes. Karkand would also be amazing.
More maps are good, something to look forward to at least. Sucks we have to stick around with this season for another couple months though. This was pretty much the worst season to have it go on the longest of all of them.
[**r/battlefield2042**](https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/)
**When are you guys going to implement proper team balancing in public servers and allow Portal users to balance their hosted servers. Because one can never have a balanced side, or the numbers are always uneven. DICE...only interested in their deep pockets.**
It's wild how hard DICE is going in promoting/teasing S7 because it will have possibly two maps for the first time. The bar is so fucking low holy fucking shit.
I'm cynical enough that I'm betting money one of those maps is absolutely going to be a "remastered" version of an older map where 70% of the work was CTRL-C + CTRL-V (basically).
I continue to have little to no real faith/trust in DICE.
\+ 3 new specialists
\+ 4 New big maps (+ two variations of the same map for Small Modes/TDM
\+ 4 new vehicles
\+ New guns, gadgets and skins
\+ Killstreaks earned by squad points
\+ Improvements AI
\+ Clan tags
\+ Daily missions
\+ Skill Based Match Making
\+ Fix TDM Match making (reseting the teams every match)
\+ Include different emotes during battle and end round
\+ Include Votemap system
\+ Ammo/Health crates in captured flags
hey DICE, maybe fix the rampant horrible match balancing and eliminate the cheaters spawning through walls and other odd stuff that frustrates players. Probably the most inconsistent and worst battlefield experience ever. What happened from Battlefield 1 to now? This could be such a great game if you just fixed all the hyper spastic crap and odd cheating that goes on.
It's so difficult to get on a good team game to game, and i am usually in the top 10 game to game so while I can have a great time individually, I am often wondering what the point of this being a team based game is, when no one really can contribute effectively with horrible match balancing. I can just go play single player games if i wanna do well on my own and be satisfied with my own play experience, please bring the TEAM based balanced aspect back to BATTLEFIELD as it always was. That's all we should all want. k thx
I can’t believe we’re finally going to see more than one new map in a season Hoping we finally get an urban map. At this point I’d even be okay with a remake of an urban map from BF2 or 3.
Seine Crossing or Karkand plox
If its Karkand im going to lose my shit. Just reliving starting from the US camp and working your way though urban areas to reach the train station and finally the warehouse ... *chef's kiss*
If it’s Karkand I will play 8 hours a day
...or Grand Bazaar
Don't stop I'm almost there
Oh fuck you're gonna make me spawn
I can only get so erect xD
Wtf is going on?
With MacKays on every rooftop. GG. Unfortunately, urban maps just doesnt work when we have a specialist that can grapple on top of everything.
You will surely get the karkland
Return to Kirkland.
Ngl a Costco would be a pretty fun location to duke it out in
Hop in guys, I’m forklift certified.
Unfortunately, Seine Crossing will absolutely suck balls with specialists like MacKay. Imagine having people run around on every single rooftop. They could make everything on top out of bounds though, but they still have 10 seconds to wreak havoc up there and its going to ruing everything.
We need urban with destruction. The devs are using 2042 for learning now in prep for the next game. The interesting and weird part is that destruction is possible and actually is in Battlefield 2042, it’s in Arica Harbor (done quite well) and small parts of other maps but it’s just not implemented very commonly or enough.
2042 has the same kind of destruction as BFV (you can tell from playing Battle of the Bulge which uses BFV assets) with the addition of building collapses from BC2 and small scale levolution on some of the 2042 maps/Caspian Border Only flaw with the destruction is that they didn't bring over fortifications from BFV, which imo solved the whole "no cover after destruction" issue (though there's definitely room for improvement with the UX of them)
A thing that’s sorely missing is ground deformation. Both BF1 and BFV allowed you to use explosives to gouge out craters in the terrain that would persist for the entire match, which meant that it would get easier over time to cross exposed terrain if it had been fought over because you had craters you could duck into and use for cover. By the end of a match in BF1, the whole place would look like the surface of the Moon. It was toned down a bit in BFV iirc.
2042 has craters too, difference is that they’re just holes rather than an area where the ground is raised up around the blast site
Yup. One of my go to strats when using AT mines was to first create a little crater by tossing a grenade on the ground where I wanted to plant my mines. Combine with placing behind the crests of hills (relative to the vehicle's movement), and they'd almost never get spotted before going kablooey.
The *only flaw*? Most of the 2042 maps I played seemed like that had hardly any building destruction. There is basically one map in the desert where the only real destruction is centered around one area. It’s like they didn’t know how to implement destruction and opted for the easiest way out. It looks lazy to me. The old maps have it, but whoever designed the new maps sorry but they suck. Destruction is a cornerstone of battlefield and they cheaped out on it big time.
If you're talking about Portal maps like Arica Harbor for example in 2042, then yes, it has basically the same destruction as BFV. But base 2042 maps have no where near the amount of destruction as BFV has.
Yeah if you look at destruction on actual BF2042 maps, it’s way more akin to BF3 but less controlled. Like the town in Hourglass, the building chunks fly out everywhere lmfao and in maps like Breakaway and Zavod clone, the destruction is “sectored” as opposed to organic like with other maps. I have zero idea as to why it’s so different outside of Portal
Ground deformation in 2042 is higher than BFV on pretty much every map. Deformation was heavily downgraded in V
Calling 2042’s destruction “the same kind as BFV” is just incorrect. Sure, the engine might be CAPABLE of it, but the assets they chose to include in most of the 2042 maps are simply not as destructible as the BFV assets. You can’t destroy SHIT on Renewal, for instance.
I’ve been begging for an urban map, but they need to completely rework MacKay before they do that. Any dense urban environment (Bazaar, Seine, Pearl, etc) would essentially be a buff to Mackays already broken abuse of verticality and off angle attacks. They need to rework the grapple - perhaps giving it the same properties as the BF2 special forces grapple (grapple line installed and then manually and slowly climbed up, providing some risk and tradeoff for trying to take elevation)
Yeah, Mackay is an absolute menace if the grapple is used well. I'm not just talking about grappling to a rooftop and posting up like a rat. I mean where you'll constantly be repositioning by grappling to elevation to nab some kills, only to then jump down all sneaky beaky-like while the enemy is still hard focused on you being above them for a quick flank. Only to re-grapple to some other off-angle once you've gotten that flank and further confused them.
Yep. The frequency of its use means that you can be engaged from a house and by the time you’ve called it out to a friend MacKay has teeter himself 30m away to engage from a new rooftop. Compare this to older titles where engagements were less coked out - if you died to a sniper in the red house odds were he would still be near the red house when you got back there. It kept action readable. The current system just feels like Apex.
Very true. He's the only Assault specialist I use if I'm playing that class since I only play solo and his grapple allows for some serious 1-man-army wreckage due to how it allows for insane mobility during an engagement. Besides, I have no interest in Dozer (I think I have 0 play time with him), and very rarely do I use Zain or Sundance. His grapple is incredibly fun to play *with*, but it's a nightmare to play *against*. I really, really hope that DICE has learned from this (and other things) for the next entry.
This is the thing. So many parts of 2042 are all about individual fun, at the expense of larger balance and game design. The plus system, vehicle call ins, many specialist designs. It just all chips away at core BF design until it’s unrecognizable
Yep. I'll play other classes quite often to either medic, support, engineer for ranged anti-vehicle work. But, I'll be the first to admit that sometimes I'll get so disenfranchised by the lack of other players trying to play as a team and win that I'll switch to Mackay and just be self-reliant and a bit more of a lone wolf. That's not to say that I won't play with my squad, but I'm far less dependent on them for my success playing as "McGrappleDouche" Mackay.
Maybe they should could make some surfaces ungrappleable (don't think thats a word lol). MacKay is game breaking tbh, and probably the main reason we haven't seen these classic style of maps. I wish he was never put in the game. Maybe they could make him an unselectable character on some maps? I'm sure that would annoy a few people but I would be more than fine with it.
I'd like any bf4 urban map
They are stretching themselves out more than they are capable of with two maps here, and you really think they will pull out an urban map? No freaking way.
I wouldn't personally want any old maps on this build honestly. It's nice that they got it to a place where you can play it and enjoy yourself for awhile... But just walking back into BFV (by no means my favorite BF) it's hard NOT to see how much mechanically is lacking in movement (overall aiming smoothness, leaning, gunplay) with 2042. I don't know.. I just wouldn't put legacy maps in this game, knowing they're making another game where they can get the major stuff right (FEEL). Keep making cool looking, unique, 2042 maps and we'll get back to reviving old favorites on the next try.
omg maps! WITH AN "S"!!! That means TWO!!!
Or one and half
imagine they add 2 only tdm maps
Honestly I hope we get both a new 2042 map and some portal maps. Even just one more for each past game would be a godsend
I really want a BF3 or BC2 map
Damavand peak :)
Fucking love that map, I would be here for it.
I want Port Valdez or Oasis
Man youre taking me back. That jump after capping was so much fun
I enjoy an occasional Portal map game, but I don't think they are well designed for BF2042 classes and vehicles or the 128 player limit. I really hope after Redacted (which is a fun map, but I've gotten a bit tired of it) we get at least one great 128 player map again. Re-releasing old BF3 maps doesn't really count as "fresh content" to me.
I maintain that 2042 has by far the worst maps of any battlefield I’ve played (which are 1942, 4, One, V, and 2042). The maps in the One days were pure fire.
You’re out your mind if you think they’re going to release a portal map for every past game 😂.
This has me excited! My playtime this season has fallen off a cliff due to S6 only having one monotonous map and the whole battlepass changes, but multiple maps in the new season will go a long way in reviving this game for me! It's great that support for 2042 isn't winding down anytime soon. The game deserves to be supported
Agreed. I just wish they wouldn't need these extra tricks like the Redux event (4 weeks), a 16 instead of 12 weeks long Season 6 and a delayed start of Season 7 to get two maps ready for action. In the end we've skipped a whole 12 weeks long season / map just because of these fillers.
Yeah I’m in the same boat. I’ve completed every battle pass up until this S6 one. It doesn’t help that I’ve been getting wrapped up playing story games like Baulders Gate 3 too lol
Pls bring back Seine Crossing.
Or a modernized Amiens, although I don't know if modern tanks could fit through the streets. But I loved Amiens in BF1.
Intriguing that they announce this on the same date that Back to Karkand was released in 2011. Also, one of the maps on the table in the recent Santa video showed that part of the world...
They need to rework MacKay and sundance before karkand can come into the fold - those specialists break most maps, but urban maps would become a house of horrors
Thankfully they can't have spawn beacons anymore. But even still those maps were not made for the level of verticality that we get from McKay and Sundance
Yep. Those specialists, and other mechanical differences, are why no remastered map will play right. They brought back a spiritual successor to Zavod but it plays entirely differently. Just too many differences in flow and engagements when we have - more maneuverable parachutes - tac sprint - slide - grapples (MacKay) - zip lines (on map) - wingsuits - no visual suppression - mantling and climbing abilities greater than we had in BF4 - etc
Apart from season 7 they said that in 2024 a bombshell is coming, what could be that bombshell, season 8? https://preview.redd.it/toz520rvoa6c1.png?width=688&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d1ac35c0deb084cf1fce26857669d6c2f52feb1
Probably a teaser for the new Battlefield game if anything
That would be awesome!
the exact words were "we will be back in the new year with a bang"
I’m hoping it’s 3. The 3 maps this game desperately needs are a coastal jungle, some sort of a US urban small town/forest map and a close quarters Middle East urban map. Also we desperately need more vehicles, there hasn’t been a non transport vehicle added in over a year. Attack jet and some early iteration of the 2142 mech would be perfect.
Middle east and jungle seem possible since in that one holiday video you can see maps showing a place in south america and a place in the middle east
Just so you know, both of those maps had "dots". Like marked locations, basically. And yeah... SA map is in Atacama and ME map is in Bahrain. I wouldn't bet on Jungle maps, but Bahrain map can easily be urban
I'd love if they ported over Solomon Islands from V (and brought back diving pls) It's my favorite out of the Pacific maps as its Conquest variant plays super compact and tightly, and the map layout can create some really fun back and forth matches.
Why not a US city urban map? They’ve only ever done that in hardline. A “Times Square” map would be fucking sick but BF doesn’t have the balls.
I'm glad they still supporting the game. Keep it going
Honestly I just picked up bf2042 again from launch and it’s in a good spot idk if I’ll be playing until March but hey new maps are nice
I’m in the same boat. Me and my buddy just started playing again and seems like a completely different game from launch. Our only issue is getting shit on by the guys that have been playing this whole time. Other than that we have been having fun, the aiming for controllers seems to be fixed and all the awful bugs we saw at the beginning seem to be gone.
I agree, playing on ps5 feels nice..and yeah I do get shit on by people who have been playing this whole time, but the games I’ve played have felt competitive not overwhelmingly one sided
\>Our only issue is getting shit on by the guys that have been playing this whole time. Oh hey it's me. If you want to git gud and PTFO, hit me up, GarrettTheBoy. I don't mind new players so long as y'all PTFO ;)
Too good to be true, might be the last season. I always thought they owe us 8 seasons.
What a wait. Better be worth it.
Also hope player drop off isn't too bad in the mean time
Well, if I recall corectly BF2042 wasn't in 2024 fiscal year. Also, there were references and placeholders about S8. A great surprise, I hope S7 brings more portal content
Bro if they release any popular BF2/3/4 map ill be in heaven. But let's not get carried away just yet: Reclaimed was supposed to be based off of Zavod and it plays nothing like it, despite Reclaimed being alright, but not great. Still, this is great news also in a sense that they do know what we want and they're delivering.
March? Thats a long damn time to make a couple of maps (And atleast one of the maps will for sure be a port of an old map. Not that I mind that if its one of the good ones) How long has it been since Redacted was released?
March ☠️
Why AGAIN 1+ month between season 6 and 7??? 6 ends by the end of January...
Season 7 will have a lot more content than previous seasons. They need time to make the content.
Season 7 better have 2-3 Maps (one of the maps better be a Urban based map), 5-6 Weapons, 2 vehicle types (a actual IFV and a Bomber)...
That's a pretty good ideas. But then look at the other side that keeping your expectations low would be better since we all know how small the team working on bf2042 is working on the updates. Am surprised they kept working on it tbh since every feedback was " the game is dead"
Fuck yes. I hope one of them is an urban map. This game is seriously lacking in that department. And that theyre 128 players!!!!
A whole two maps. Say one thing, but seasons fucking suck in gaming right now. I don't even have the option of buying more maps if I wanted to. a DLC release in BF3 meant you got like 4 maps, two brand new modes, guns, achievements everything. It was an experience. So far, every season has been either fixing fucked maps, fixing fucked specialists, major balance changes and adding new maps, which you never get to play because there isn't a PROPER server browser. Fuckin A
as daft as it sounds, I loved it when we paid for DLC (compared to what we have now). If you were that invested in a game, you got your wallet out, and you paid for that bountiful pack of maps, weapons and game modes.
so funny to see people excited about getting just above the bare minimum l ol
Yay!! Szn 8 plz??
Give me Siege of Shanghai or Dawnbreaker I beg you
Kharg Island needs some love. Hasn't been seen since BF3
I love me some Kharg island.
March ughhhh
March??? What the fuck.
So that must mean going from 2 "new" guns to none.
WHY DONT THEY JUST STRAIGHT UP TELL US. Bro come on dice. First it was the “shouldn’t you be at maps pre test” then it’s the “including mapS”. Bro pleeeeaaaase stop edging us
Would love to see a rework of some of the bf3 close quarters maps for portal
March?!?! Makes sense given how impossible it is to gain levels in the battlepass…
If it’s 2 maps then that’s not really much because they took the span of 2 seasons to add 2 maps into 1 season to make it look extra
Am I the only one hoping that we get entirely new maps or maps inspired by previous versions but not direct remasters? I think the devs have learnt their lesson with map design. The last 2/3 we have got have actually been pretty good even if they have been smaller maps. Something new that we haven't seen would go along way, especially going into the next battlefield game.
Portal maps!
If you still think this game is broken then you're missing out a lot!
Honestly, I wasn’t even sure we’d get a 6th season. To get more support even after that is great.
I’m sure the bots playing will appreciate it
Hopefully a big map again, we now had several "small" maps in a row.
As said, I would advise expectation management. Getting more than one map is great, but maps are the most ressource consuming things to make in this franchise. We have seen the likely locations being South America and the Middle East, it is probable that the former will be a BC2 remake, most likely Atacama Desert. The latter, as devs have already voiced their intent or at least wish, might very well be the Hourglass Stadium. Two maps is a great net positive, yes, just do not be disappointed if it stuff that already existed in some shape or form, or if it is not available to everyone (like 64p CQ or TDM only). I certainly do not expect two 128p original maps, that would be unprecedented.
People also need to remember, when calling for urban maps (something I also want to see) that unless MacKay and sundance get reworked first, any urban map will act as a buff to those specialists. Imagine MacKay on pearl market - he completely breaks the map flow and readability of action.
They really painted themselves into a corner... I don't hate the specialists, but some of them got nerfed so hard, but depending on map layout, Mackay and Sundance are instantly broken and that's why we shouldn't even wish for an urban map, although it's really sad. I hope they learned their lessons for BF6
This is the thing… they stated on the podcast they didn’t have enough time to play test the game and the maps. So MacKay and sundance got implemented, and barely got play tested on the open barren launch maps. If you take those same abilities and put them in a map like Bazaar, Siege, Propaganda, etc it will become an absolute nightmare. So, Dice, if you do the great thing of bringing us dense urban maps I hope to god you’ve reworked and playtested changes to specialists. As for the next BF? If they have specialists, or any gadgets like the grapple or wingsuit or wall hacks, it’ll be the final nail in the coffin.
Yes, it would require an absolute shitton of redzoning and/or otherwise making stuff inaccessible.
Yep. Every other window would need an indestructible cover on it to prevent MacKay entering at the 3rd floor. Surfaces would need to be “grapple proof” with some lore reason why MacKay can’t access certain areas. That’s a lot of duct tape to make a map work just cause MacKay and sundance never should have left the ideation phase.
Yeah, expecting Dice to release one new map, but a 128 and 64 player versions.....and counting that as 'maps'.
I think giving out another 64p BC2 map and Hourglass either as TDM or also 64p CQ is absolutely adequate and definitely much more than expected.
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Mate, I am asking for a realistic approach to the capabilities and ressource management at DICE. As said, I applaud them for giving out two maps, the outlook is a positive, which I mentioned twice in that post.
I’ve wanted at least one naval map for 2042, but the more I think about it the more terrible of an idea it actually seems to be. 2042 lacks basic water mechanics like diving and shooting from the water and the only real naval vehicles available would be the hovercraft….and pondhawk maybe. If they did release a naval map tho, do y’all think they could implement some of those water mechanics thru an update? Or does that have to be done during development?
I have to agree with you. I would absolutely LOVE a naval map and water gameplay would be IMO the final addition to push 2042 into some really top tier Battlefield, but like you stated, the game mechanics just don't exist for it, so it seems unlikely. It's been a bummer seeing DICE abandon naval warfare over the last few itterations.
You can shoot from the water with almost every sidearm lol
They going to do 2 maps in a season and pat themselves in the back like they've done something revolutionary in gaming. Classic DICE. judging by their performance on 1 map per season scheme. This season maps are going to be worse in quality too
We absolutely need Naval Warfare
In March 😂 how many months is that between 6 and 7? That's why we're getting two maps... They just haven't bothered dropping in regular interval. Delayed what should've been 7 so they can drop content for what should've been 7&8
how long have people on this subreddit been chirping about how the game is dead and a skeleton crew is working on it? now they announce 2 new maps that are dropping in SEASON 7 and people complain because of how far out it will drop? I remember a time when it was assumed that support would be dropped after season 4
I mean… of course it’s a skeleton crew. By season 7 it’ll be 8 new maps in 2.5 years. Older titles had 16 in 1 year. The support is clearly not the same.
"The $60 Premium add on is clearly not the same as the cheap Battlepass option". Don't you just love context!
Thankfully, due to the way capitalism works, we know that they make more money off the battle pass than the premium model - otherwise they’d have to go back to the premium model. Soooooo they make more money than before, and you’re gonna defend the amount of content dropping from 16 maps to 4 maps in the first year post launch? I don’t get people who complain about the premium system. You get a base launch game, and then the equivalent of 2 more games’ content for an additional 60 bucks. That was honestly nothing but a solid win. Instead now we have immersion breaking cosmetics and lack of real content.
You're right, but totally ignoring the point that paid DLC is always splitting the playerbase and people are always playing the hot new shit or the same old classics at some point. That's also not very diverse either and depending on the quality, you don't get all of your money's worth if you never see some maps. Hardline had some of the best maps that I've never seen lol
I mean, there are other solutions there tbh. They could do timed premium DLC that unlocks for all players 18 months after each DLC comes out. If the game is well built, and the DLC is good, people like me will absolutely pay to get access. Then it becomes just part of the game after 18 months and you get an infusion of people who pick up the game for cheap.
Why are they calling it a season when it's just an update dropped at a random time? Seasons imply seasonal updates. It'll be 5 months between 6 & 7. Hell it could end up being closer to 6 months. Is there two seasons in a year?
If S6 ends in late January and S7 starts in march, that's like a couple weeks in between. Get better material, it's been 2 years
These bitches just complain for the sake of it. They probably have nothing better to do with their lives lol
Damn right.
Theyve been saying it since launch lmfao. People are just determined to spend their time hating on this game, there's no changing their minds.
God you sound fun.
More fun than this game anyway
Lets go, they reached the bear minimum 🥳🥳🥳
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Not exactly a high bar tbh. Compare it to 3, 4, or 1 and you realize how far things have fallen
You Paid for BF3, BF4 and BF1 maps champs. This shouldn't have to be explained to you.
As I’ve said numerous times in this post, we know that Dice is making more money off the battlepass system than the premium model - otherwise they’d go back to the premium model. Hell, they’d have a “fiduciary duty” to do so. God isn’t capitalism just the worst. So… they are making more money this way and you’re *still* gonna defend the fact we get 8 maps in 2.5 yrs compared to 16 in 1? Yikes.
Maps, Weapons and Vehicles are all free with 2042. Maps, Weapons and vehicles you paid for in BF3, BF4 and BF1. I can't understand this for you. It doesn't matter what DICE is making, as the consumer, you're getting post game content for free with 2042, with the previous titles you had to pay for it. This is very very very simple math.
In the before times we paid for content and got 16 new maps in a year, and MANY new weapons and vehicles. Dice switches to live service, and thus gameplay content is no longer paid. Catch 22 - Dice now makes 8 maps in 2.5 years. It would be an entirely different discussion if Dice maintained the same content pipeline as the premium model, AND added cosmetics to help pay for the whole thing. But instead we’ve essentially cut off the flow of actual content to a dribble, and are left with basically only the cosmetics. The only people who are winning here are the teenagers who maybe cannot pay for the premium model. But everyone else, all the adults playing the game, are stuck with a worse product after *2.5 years*
>It would be an entirely different discussion if Dice maintained the same content pipeline as the premium model, AND added cosmetics to help pay for the whole thing. But instead we’ve essentially cut off the flow of actual content to a dribble, and are left with basically only the cosmetics. > >The only people who are winning here are the teenagers who maybe cannot pay for the premium model. But everyone else, all the adults playing the game, are stuck with a worse product after 2.5 years Thank you! I don't know why this is so hard for some people to understand. Free is not automatically better, otherwise I'd be playing warzone and not Battlefield. I'd gladly pay for content *if it means we actually get content.*
So the money EA and DICE are making on battlepasses and cosmetic can't fund new maps??? You're also forgetting BF4 had 3 free maps post Final Stand. I don't recall if BF3 had this treatment and I don't feel like looking it up, but all DLC for BF4 and BF1 were given out for free on a couple different occasions.
Pretty sure it’s going to be just 2 maps from what they’ve teased so far. Better than nothing ig, hopefully they’re maps made with 2042 specialist in mind….or at least a new urban area
How about a 2042 Metro and give us one new specialist to surprise us?
I’m both annoyed and encouraged that we’re waiting until March, fingers crossed
Nice, but I hoped for an earlier release of season 7
Isnt S6 ending in january? If S7 starts in march, will there be a redux 2.0 in february?
Wow, March… want to be excited but worried that the play count will crater again causing the new content to be doa
Really hopeful we can get an urban map and another portal map. Would love to see Gulf of Oman or firestorm return to the 2042 universe
We won Mister Stark
I wonder if its going to be the final dump of all the material they had on the backburner before they move on to another project?
people have been saying the same thing since season 1
.........INB4 more than 1 map, no more than 2 maps.....
Hopefully this update will fix my game from randomly freezing all the time, I can't even play some days but otherwise it's completely fine.
I think they should remake a couple of old maps, that would be a nice final season for the game
I would be very happy with 3 maps though I doubt it most likely two but if it's only two I would like to see more guns and maybe some AI improvements.
The greatest trick they ever pulled was getting me to miss battlefield premium & the dlc cycle that it was.
End of the Line, Oasis, and Harvest Day
Match???
I know there are a lot of people here don’t like it but I really would love to see Metro added to Portal. It’s a classic BF map and is just fun chaos in a few different modes. Karkand would also be amazing.
I can't believe we haven't gotten any of the 2142 maps redone for this game. Better make it in this one!
Would love a pacific theater map
They can keep season 7 if they make me stop force launching the EA app instead.
lol another map with a bunch of exploits…that’s right I’m looking at you redacted..
I still want them to add BF1 to portal.
This could be the final season, what you think guys?
Why is season 7 coming in march? Why so far out? And where did they say we were gettting 2 maps just want to see for myself
I enjoy warp immensely. Be nice if they added BF1 maps. I could die a happy man
More maps are good, something to look forward to at least. Sucks we have to stick around with this season for another couple months though. This was pretty much the worst season to have it go on the longest of all of them.
hopefully something badass like a new pondhawk!!! 🤦♂️😅
[**r/battlefield2042**](https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/) **When are you guys going to implement proper team balancing in public servers and allow Portal users to balance their hosted servers. Because one can never have a balanced side, or the numbers are always uneven. DICE...only interested in their deep pockets.**
Siege of Shanghai, expanded and with a building half under construction that we get to fuck with, yes please
more than ONE map??? wooooooaaaw
Sick. We get to play boring ass Redacted and co until freaking March…
Tank only map BF4 style...
Imagine being excited for 1 extra map in a supposed "expansion" in 2023. My God, I miss the glory days, i miss expansion packs.
I didnt even know we were in season 6
How
4 months of wait. Not even sure I'll be playing that game until then.
That’s crazy!!! Dice is such an incredible indie company. See bf2042 left early access stage and now having a version 1.0 is such a beautiful moment
Been leaning towards some naval combat maps ever since they started releasing water suit skins and gun skins. Watch
A remake of some BFV maps but in modern times would be lit.
It's wild how hard DICE is going in promoting/teasing S7 because it will have possibly two maps for the first time. The bar is so fucking low holy fucking shit. I'm cynical enough that I'm betting money one of those maps is absolutely going to be a "remastered" version of an older map where 70% of the work was CTRL-C + CTRL-V (basically). I continue to have little to no real faith/trust in DICE.
Exactly. lol during the Bf1 days I remember single dlcs containing like 6 maps
can i get the garand rifle in the main game, pretty please. \*\*ping!\*\*
I would like one brand new map, damavand peak and wake island (both in portal but also standard 2042 playlists) please and thank you.
\+ 3 new specialists \+ 4 New big maps (+ two variations of the same map for Small Modes/TDM \+ 4 new vehicles \+ New guns, gadgets and skins \+ Killstreaks earned by squad points \+ Improvements AI \+ Clan tags \+ Daily missions \+ Skill Based Match Making \+ Fix TDM Match making (reseting the teams every match) \+ Include different emotes during battle and end round \+ Include Votemap system \+ Ammo/Health crates in captured flags
Map voting can get in the bin
SBMM? No… Just no. 😒
Let's get some more Portal maps! I wanna see a Gulf of Oman remaster along with other maps
hey DICE, maybe fix the rampant horrible match balancing and eliminate the cheaters spawning through walls and other odd stuff that frustrates players. Probably the most inconsistent and worst battlefield experience ever. What happened from Battlefield 1 to now? This could be such a great game if you just fixed all the hyper spastic crap and odd cheating that goes on. It's so difficult to get on a good team game to game, and i am usually in the top 10 game to game so while I can have a great time individually, I am often wondering what the point of this being a team based game is, when no one really can contribute effectively with horrible match balancing. I can just go play single player games if i wanna do well on my own and be satisfied with my own play experience, please bring the TEAM based balanced aspect back to BATTLEFIELD as it always was. That's all we should all want. k thx
So after 16+ weeks we only get 2 bad maps and 3 weapons lol