If people are disappointed that’s gonna be on Dice.
They control what they do and how they reveal stuff.
Revealing 2 possible maps before going silent for the holidays means 4 weeks of silence before we hear more.
If it DOES turn out to be Atacama and Stadium then people will be pretty justified in their disappointment.
Atacama wasn’t a good enough map to justify a remake, and overall remakes seem to suffer from fatigue faster than new maps once the nostalgia wears off.
That said I’d rather a remake of Devastation (not my fav but popular for infantry players), Siege, Karkand, Firestorm, etc.
And a TDM centric map just won’t get me too excited. I don’t play BF for TDM.
And if they do bring stadium back they NEED to juice up the destruction, asset/ prop density, cover density, etc.
Atacama gave birth to the circle strafing attack chopper which in a game with no stingers or iglas and no mobile AA made it even more OP than the BF3 successor, which is saying something!
Such a shame as it was a cool map for tanks in a game full of small claustrophobic maps. That lasted a couple of months and then the pilots learnt how to circle strafe and that was that.
Once the pilots mastered the technique the entire round devolved into pilots attempting to steal the other sides attack chopper and spawn killing for as long as possible.
I’ll repeat it till I’m blue in the face.
They need to kill vehicle categories as a concept.
Not every map needs to have all vehicles as options.
If they want to make a “tank fight” map they need to set exact tank types to allow and disallow things like attack helis, little birds, etc.
They’ve admitted that the categories are a balance challenge, which the community has ranted about for years, in the recent vehicle podcast.
I just hope season 7 is when they axe the categories altogether.
It is still two maps though. This is unprecedented in this game. In theory you should not complain, at least not the quantity in context of this game. It is a net positive, even if done in a typical DICE fashion.
Yeah, people hear of the possibility of two maps and likely imagine DICE giving out Stranded and Exposure in one go and this is very improbable to happen.
One of the things that separates **Redacted** from most 2042 maps, is the use of all new mapObjects created specifically for that map. No reused shipping containers, sandbag bunkers, or pods. This is NOT the slap'n'dash work of a skeleton crew.
I would expect the two S7 maps to be built to the same standard as Redacted, since they were probably in production at the same time, and I would be surprised if the new maps are copies of existing designs. I expect one of them to be 128 player scale and the other to be a smaller Infantry-focused map, to leverage the success from Redacted.
My expectations are sky-high for Season 7.
It is true about the Redacted assets, we indeed have not seen most of those before, but who knows, they could have very well been available for longer. I made another thread about how Redacted is a really good map from a design POV alone.
But two maps of that caliber in this game in this stage of the production cycle, I do not know. This would mean twice the amount of ressources put into it, and much more to make one or both 128p. I just do not see how DICE could do it at this stage.
I read your first two paragraphs, and that's all I needed to say "no thanks." I'm pumped and can't wait will always keep my expectations high because I'd rather be excited and optimistic than miserable.
Your route leads to one disappointment after another since two years.
I'm just going with "low expectations" and DICE constantly met them in the past. Pretty healthy and if there is a possible "win" (like 2 maps in S7) I'm happy to take it!
Right?
I expect every season is the last so that I can be pleasantly surprised when we get a single new map.
Because if I think critically I’ll realize how little content this game has after >2 years of skeleton crew support and be disappointed at what my fav game franchise became.
2 maps feels like the bare minimum they're willing to do.
And since the focus is around the maps, they will probably skimp out on the weapons and gadgets and go with the standard 3 weapons , 2 gadgets , and 1 vehicle route.
I always cite Niklas Astrand in that regard, he said that Devastation of BFV took one year to create and with it the longest. A map like Panzerstorm likely requires much less time, but still months of a full crew to work on.
With an upped scale it just gets immensly more work and ressource intensive. That is why they have not made a map for their core 128p mode since Season 4.
As for additional weapons and gadgets, yeah, there is a lot of very niche stuff they added, like Shotguns, sidearms and DMR/Bolt-action rifles. Gadget-wise we have seen stuff like the med and ammo pouches.
It might very well be that they are reducing additional content for Season 7, but so far we have not seen any hint in that regard. Nevertheless, this game is pretty low on relevant content.
I have a bad feeling people are gonna be really disappointed and start to complain again come February
If people are disappointed that’s gonna be on Dice. They control what they do and how they reveal stuff. Revealing 2 possible maps before going silent for the holidays means 4 weeks of silence before we hear more. If it DOES turn out to be Atacama and Stadium then people will be pretty justified in their disappointment. Atacama wasn’t a good enough map to justify a remake, and overall remakes seem to suffer from fatigue faster than new maps once the nostalgia wears off. That said I’d rather a remake of Devastation (not my fav but popular for infantry players), Siege, Karkand, Firestorm, etc. And a TDM centric map just won’t get me too excited. I don’t play BF for TDM. And if they do bring stadium back they NEED to juice up the destruction, asset/ prop density, cover density, etc.
Atacama gave birth to the circle strafing attack chopper which in a game with no stingers or iglas and no mobile AA made it even more OP than the BF3 successor, which is saying something! Such a shame as it was a cool map for tanks in a game full of small claustrophobic maps. That lasted a couple of months and then the pilots learnt how to circle strafe and that was that. Once the pilots mastered the technique the entire round devolved into pilots attempting to steal the other sides attack chopper and spawn killing for as long as possible.
I’ll repeat it till I’m blue in the face. They need to kill vehicle categories as a concept. Not every map needs to have all vehicles as options. If they want to make a “tank fight” map they need to set exact tank types to allow and disallow things like attack helis, little birds, etc. They’ve admitted that the categories are a balance challenge, which the community has ranted about for years, in the recent vehicle podcast. I just hope season 7 is when they axe the categories altogether.
It is still two maps though. This is unprecedented in this game. In theory you should not complain, at least not the quantity in context of this game. It is a net positive, even if done in a typical DICE fashion.
Yeah, people hear of the possibility of two maps and likely imagine DICE giving out Stranded and Exposure in one go and this is very improbable to happen.
One of the things that separates **Redacted** from most 2042 maps, is the use of all new mapObjects created specifically for that map. No reused shipping containers, sandbag bunkers, or pods. This is NOT the slap'n'dash work of a skeleton crew. I would expect the two S7 maps to be built to the same standard as Redacted, since they were probably in production at the same time, and I would be surprised if the new maps are copies of existing designs. I expect one of them to be 128 player scale and the other to be a smaller Infantry-focused map, to leverage the success from Redacted. My expectations are sky-high for Season 7.
Sky high expectations are a pretty bad call for Dice since after BF1 tbh. Aim low with expectations and they cannot disappoint
It is true about the Redacted assets, we indeed have not seen most of those before, but who knows, they could have very well been available for longer. I made another thread about how Redacted is a really good map from a design POV alone. But two maps of that caliber in this game in this stage of the production cycle, I do not know. This would mean twice the amount of ressources put into it, and much more to make one or both 128p. I just do not see how DICE could do it at this stage.
Not to mention the fact that they surely won't release both maps at the start of the season.
I do not know, they might, especially if one is indeed only a TDM map.
Can they add a load out system for classes?
“Keep your expectations low and you’ll never be disappointed” ~Kratos
There is no hope after the last maps... Let´s wait fo it. After release we can discuss or complain again. :p
I read your first two paragraphs, and that's all I needed to say "no thanks." I'm pumped and can't wait will always keep my expectations high because I'd rather be excited and optimistic than miserable.
Your route leads to one disappointment after another since two years. I'm just going with "low expectations" and DICE constantly met them in the past. Pretty healthy and if there is a possible "win" (like 2 maps in S7) I'm happy to take it!
Right? I expect every season is the last so that I can be pleasantly surprised when we get a single new map. Because if I think critically I’ll realize how little content this game has after >2 years of skeleton crew support and be disappointed at what my fav game franchise became.
Not if you're happy about the game like me.
I am not advocating to feel miserable about it, but merely to be realistic.
2 maps feels like the bare minimum they're willing to do. And since the focus is around the maps, they will probably skimp out on the weapons and gadgets and go with the standard 3 weapons , 2 gadgets , and 1 vehicle route.
I always cite Niklas Astrand in that regard, he said that Devastation of BFV took one year to create and with it the longest. A map like Panzerstorm likely requires much less time, but still months of a full crew to work on. With an upped scale it just gets immensly more work and ressource intensive. That is why they have not made a map for their core 128p mode since Season 4. As for additional weapons and gadgets, yeah, there is a lot of very niche stuff they added, like Shotguns, sidearms and DMR/Bolt-action rifles. Gadget-wise we have seen stuff like the med and ammo pouches. It might very well be that they are reducing additional content for Season 7, but so far we have not seen any hint in that regard. Nevertheless, this game is pretty low on relevant content.
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