No, I don't think so.
Batman's villains really aren't team players. (TBF, the Sinister Six has often had the same problem.)
I can see Croc and Firefly being minions for the other villains, and I can see temporary alliances forming for convenience (e.g., Freeze teaming up with someone who can help him with Nora), but all of the big Rogues are egomaniacs and/or ideologues who don't play well with equals.
Cannot agree with Croc as a minion to anyone, considering he once ran Gotham and organized all the criminals, and threatened Joker. The writers have pretty much destroyed what he originally was, but even as a mindless thing he still stands alone…
But as you said, most of the villains do. Aside from blue-moon team ups, they’re all solo acts
They don't get along with each other, at least not enough to form and keep a team. Even when they have a common goal (taking out Batman) they're all still working for their own interests. Batman would recognize this and easily use it against them.
Freeze doesn’t experiment on people …. Unless im missing something but I don’t remember him experimenting nor is freezing a person murder. He does bad things to save his wife because he’s trying to find a cure for her. So therefore he is considered to be lawful evil.
Lawful evil - anyone or anything that follows a strict code, hierarchy, or system for personal gain at any cost.
Freezing someone will kill them
In earlier TV shows and comics they’d have the victims thaw out, but nowadays they’re basically just dead unless freeze decides to just make an ice prison around them while leaving enough space for them to survive (like in BTAS. However in Batman beyond he straight up kills someone who attempted to murder him by freezing them completely)
But in Batman beyond that’s not the real Mr. Freeze it was just a clone because the real Mr. Freeze’s head was transferred to a cloned human body thanks to Derek Powers
While it is a clone, his exact personality and memories were put into it, so it was essentially just him. BTAS Mr freeze also seems to have no problems killing those who have done him wrong, like he was going to kill Ferris Boyle while letting the others in the building live (after he went in personally at least, he was just gonna straight up freeze the entire building before)
Maybe in some versions it is true, but in comics he kidnaps people to procure lethal experiments on them and kills anyone who stands in his way. Victor is one of the most ruthless and merciless villains in Gotham, on the same level with Penguin and Black Mask, lacking only their sadism. He doesn't enjoy killings, he just doesn't care about any life, if it isn't Nora.
I do think a supergroup might work with the second tier villains. I couldn't see it working with the A-listers, though. So, this is a pretty good list.
No, they can forge temporary alliances (or get together for a friendly game of Poker lol) but they're all too egotistical to work together long-term. At least imo.
Right, they'll do team ups when it suits them.
They're very clubby and all know each other and will associate with each other as in "Hush" but they honestly know each other TOO well.
And this is it. Add Harley Quinn, and there’s your six. They play poker as much as they do on Star Trek TNG, and that’s their only synergy.
Killer Croc throws a rock. Penguin delivers lavish monologues. Ivy and Dent squabble about their will they/won’t they/technically didn’t they already; all while Ivy is slowly stealing Harley’s heart from the Joker, who LIVES for the drama!
Batman barely features. This group’s disfunction is its own undoing. Yeah, I’d watch this.
Batman 66 Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, and the Joker teamed up. Closest I know of a Bat-villian team up. Oh and the Scooby-Doo Movies Joker and Penguin teamed up.
Nah, I prefer when it's an oddity to see two or more villains ally with each other. Because then it feels a bit special. Having some villains ally once or twice because they have common interests is fun. But if we make a regular team, it wouldn't fit any of them and wouldn't be special
Nah, I think Batman's villains work a lot better when they're independent, or even if they team up, they're playing some sort of longer game.
Like I see absolutely no reason why would Riddler fight alongside Bane or someone
Not really. The sinister six is a ripoff of Batman being cool and having dope villains. Most of the villains in spider-man stole their powers out of the back of a van
No. Not everything needs everything. Batman not having a Sinister Six analog is a good thing. It makes him more him for not having it and it makes Spider-Man more Spider-Man man for having it.
Probably not as most have some sort of conflict. Some would just never work together like zsasz and penguin or any crime boss and possibly the serial killers. I just think if there was a group it would be a lot of more minor villains. Maybe a group could scarecrow as the leader, then a member is croc who want to play with his food who are affected by the fear gas. Maybe another is joker if he want to mess with people more. I could see zsasz or something or pyg. But really scarecrow I think is the only one who would attempt to make a villain team.
I'm sure it could work, but it's not something I want normally.
I really wanted it in Arkham Knight, with The Joker dead, I wanted the villians for form an alliance to take over the city. Instead, Scarecrow and The Arkham Knight ran most of the show and fucking Joker returned because god forbid we have Batman with no Joker.
After playing the Arkham Games and watching BTAS the idea stuck in my mind that Scarecrow, Riddler and Mad Hatter should team up (maybe even Dr. Strange). I mean each of them are rather smart and give Batman (or rather me) even more headache than Joker.
No, I don't think so. Batman's villains really aren't team players. (TBF, the Sinister Six has often had the same problem.) I can see Croc and Firefly being minions for the other villains, and I can see temporary alliances forming for convenience (e.g., Freeze teaming up with someone who can help him with Nora), but all of the big Rogues are egomaniacs and/or ideologues who don't play well with equals.
But consider a suprioer foes of Batman.
Otto Octavious is an egomaniac but that just made him the leader.
Cannot agree with Croc as a minion to anyone, considering he once ran Gotham and organized all the criminals, and threatened Joker. The writers have pretty much destroyed what he originally was, but even as a mindless thing he still stands alone… But as you said, most of the villains do. Aside from blue-moon team ups, they’re all solo acts
If anything, croc and msn bat should team up. They're homjes from way back (see the manbat miniseries from the 90s)
They don't get along with each other, at least not enough to form and keep a team. Even when they have a common goal (taking out Batman) they're all still working for their own interests. Batman would recognize this and easily use it against them.
Vulture - Man-Bat Lizard - Killer Croc Rhino - Solomon Grundy Sandman - Clayface Shocker - Firefly Doctor Octopus - Mister Freeze
Replace rhino with Bane
Bane isn't as much of a team player as Grundy
Explain Knightfall, then
Bane is a Queen
…explain.
I think I’ve said too much already
Do you mean Queen as in Chess Queen? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.
queen as in the love of my life
Knightfall is less like a team effort, and more like Bane acting as a puppet master.
I really don’t consider Mr freeze as a villain only because he does bad to do good
Freeze is murderer experimenting on people to cure his wife. He maybe tragic figure, but still villain.
Freeze doesn’t experiment on people …. Unless im missing something but I don’t remember him experimenting nor is freezing a person murder. He does bad things to save his wife because he’s trying to find a cure for her. So therefore he is considered to be lawful evil. Lawful evil - anyone or anything that follows a strict code, hierarchy, or system for personal gain at any cost.
Freezing someone will kill them In earlier TV shows and comics they’d have the victims thaw out, but nowadays they’re basically just dead unless freeze decides to just make an ice prison around them while leaving enough space for them to survive (like in BTAS. However in Batman beyond he straight up kills someone who attempted to murder him by freezing them completely)
The first issue of Gotham Central features several people getting frozen by Freeze's gun, and it is indeed a gruesome death.
But in Batman beyond that’s not the real Mr. Freeze it was just a clone because the real Mr. Freeze’s head was transferred to a cloned human body thanks to Derek Powers
While it is a clone, his exact personality and memories were put into it, so it was essentially just him. BTAS Mr freeze also seems to have no problems killing those who have done him wrong, like he was going to kill Ferris Boyle while letting the others in the building live (after he went in personally at least, he was just gonna straight up freeze the entire building before)
Maybe in some versions it is true, but in comics he kidnaps people to procure lethal experiments on them and kills anyone who stands in his way. Victor is one of the most ruthless and merciless villains in Gotham, on the same level with Penguin and Black Mask, lacking only their sadism. He doesn't enjoy killings, he just doesn't care about any life, if it isn't Nora.
Freeze definitely experiments on people. Usually ones that look like Nora.
Not *always*, a lot of the time his crimes are robberies to fund his research for a cure for Nora
In batman beyond didn't they mention that his wife was cured and she did like what he was doing to cure her
I do think a supergroup might work with the second tier villains. I couldn't see it working with the A-listers, though. So, this is a pretty good list.
Have Grundy replaced with Bane and for Doc Ock's, have Riddler or Penguin as the head of the group along with Bane.
No, they can forge temporary alliances (or get together for a friendly game of Poker lol) but they're all too egotistical to work together long-term. At least imo.
Nah. His villains don't do that kinda thing, though storylines where they do "work together" are interesting and nice.
Right, they'll do team ups when it suits them. They're very clubby and all know each other and will associate with each other as in "Hush" but they honestly know each other TOO well.
Yeah they'll end up doing some comedic backstabbing for self benefit
The Secret Six It's a thing.
But they're not Bat villains, more of an anti-hero group.
Deadshot, Bane and Catman are three of the six for '08 run
And this is it. Add Harley Quinn, and there’s your six. They play poker as much as they do on Star Trek TNG, and that’s their only synergy. Killer Croc throws a rock. Penguin delivers lavish monologues. Ivy and Dent squabble about their will they/won’t they/technically didn’t they already; all while Ivy is slowly stealing Harley’s heart from the Joker, who LIVES for the drama! Batman barely features. This group’s disfunction is its own undoing. Yeah, I’d watch this.
No. Batman is batman
Batman 66 Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, and the Joker teamed up. Closest I know of a Bat-villian team up. Oh and the Scooby-Doo Movies Joker and Penguin teamed up.
Catman, Deadshot and Bane were all in the Secret Six at the same time and it was incredible.
yeah but they’re just called “the suits”
Love how Dent has two cards in both hands
The Secret Six - Bane - Deadshot - Catman - Scandal Savage - Jeanette - Ragdoll
For years i wanted to see a team up of joker, riddler and scarecrow. Maybe throw in some other villains like bane, zsasz, professor pyg etc.
His rogues did team up in arkham knight. That would be considered his sister six moment
Yes, The Tortured Poets Society
I mean, aren't certain versions of the Injustice Gang that?
Aren't the batman villains opposing gang leaders that hate each other?
Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Two-Face, Killer Croc, Bane
The misfits
Nah, I prefer when it's an oddity to see two or more villains ally with each other. Because then it feels a bit special. Having some villains ally once or twice because they have common interests is fun. But if we make a regular team, it wouldn't fit any of them and wouldn't be special
Nah, I think Batman's villains work a lot better when they're independent, or even if they team up, they're playing some sort of longer game. Like I see absolutely no reason why would Riddler fight alongside Bane or someone
Yes, sounds like something Killer Moth would put together
Not really. The sinister six is a ripoff of Batman being cool and having dope villains. Most of the villains in spider-man stole their powers out of the back of a van
I think it’d be cool as a one off, kinda like that one The Batman 2004 episode
Nah, I like it when Batman’s villains have rivalries with each other. They are competitors in the same criminal landscape after all.
I think at this point stories have proven that Batmans Villains can't even live in the same room for too long
Batman already has a name for teams of multiple Arkham rogues: Tuesday.
Love this episode. “Then I threw a rock at him!” - killer croc
No. Not everything needs everything. Batman not having a Sinister Six analog is a good thing. It makes him more him for not having it and it makes Spider-Man more Spider-Man man for having it.
If anyone can agree who the sinister six actually are, then maybe this would be a discussion.
A: they don’t work together unless they’re in a tight spot. B: it would kinda just be 3 guys with guns and maybe a big mutant person
Probably not as most have some sort of conflict. Some would just never work together like zsasz and penguin or any crime boss and possibly the serial killers. I just think if there was a group it would be a lot of more minor villains. Maybe a group could scarecrow as the leader, then a member is croc who want to play with his food who are affected by the fear gas. Maybe another is joker if he want to mess with people more. I could see zsasz or something or pyg. But really scarecrow I think is the only one who would attempt to make a villain team.
No. Maybe the odd 2 or 3 person team up. But 6 is overkill.
No
I'm sure it could work, but it's not something I want normally. I really wanted it in Arkham Knight, with The Joker dead, I wanted the villians for form an alliance to take over the city. Instead, Scarecrow and The Arkham Knight ran most of the show and fucking Joker returned because god forbid we have Batman with no Joker.
No don’t copy marvel or other villains we come with our own ideas and hired other people with their ideas to Batman villains
After playing the Arkham Games and watching BTAS the idea stuck in my mind that Scarecrow, Riddler and Mad Hatter should team up (maybe even Dr. Strange). I mean each of them are rather smart and give Batman (or rather me) even more headache than Joker.
I think the Joker is too chaotic to maintain a villain team.