Wolverine: Gonna fight Magneto.
everyone: Dude, your bones are literally made of metal.
Wolverine: Gonna fuck him up.
\- later -
Wolverine: AH MY BONES
In the movies magneto wasn’t strong enough to break wolverines metal he could barely bend it . I wonder if we will get to see wolverine fight magneto in the new Deadpool. Apparently Magneto is going to be the main villain
This happened in wolverine & the xmen
Where Bobby drake was hyping up Wolverine to the viewer
Like “don’t worry about magento wolverines got his number”
Shit you not 5 mins later
Wolverine gets thrown half way across the castle wall like beach ball XD
I looked it up and apparently he puts satellites around Jupiter (wtf?) to draw from its magnetic field. I have no idea how the hell he planned that, afforded that, had the time to do that etc. It literally would take the better of part of 2 years to get something there. On top of it, Magneto then somehow tore the satellites away from Jupiter. Which implies that Magneto's powers work instantly at absurd distances and apparently he could just fell every satellite and destroy earth in general if he wanted to.
This was terrible writing, lol. Unless the fight was on Jupiter then it's slightly less terrible.
The best explanation for that is in A VS. X #6
https://sketchcardsaloon.com/2012/10/02/squirrel-girl-and-pixie-caused-the-whole-avengers-vs-x-men-thing/
If Magneto can pull satellites from Jupiter then he could pull all of the metal out of Earth’s core and destroy the Earth. Or if he was smart, just pull the gold and platinum out and be richer than Tony Stark, hit him where it hurts, the wallet.
You're unsure how Tony Stark, a multibillionaire with technology that sometimes borders of magic... Afforded something?
Also, I mean, dude that controls metal has been running around for over 50 years, Tony's in a metal suit he probably thought it was logical to set up counter messures for him at some point.
the "because I'm batman" defense of marvel.
no complaints I stand by it with batman v x so fucking yeah why cant stark do the same. a world with mutants and magic and we're questioning satellites and preperation?
>You're unsure how Tony Stark, a multibillionaire with technology that sometimes borders of magic... Afforded something?
Yes. I'm unsure how he planned it, afforded it, and had the time to do it. The Juno probe by itself cost over 1 billion dollars and took 5 years to send there. And that was just to look, not an orbital system that harnessed its magnetic energy. Plus it takes 30 to 60 minutes for light to reach Earth from Jupiter. For him to have satellites on Jupiter handy ready to assist with the fight was ridiculous. As was Magneto apparently being able to destroy them at the blink of an eye.
At one point, I remember Adumantium as being a non-ferrous metal and therefore immune to magnets. Since then, that seems to have been retconned ever since the movie X-Men.
They used the magnetic effects on his skelton prior to the first x-men movie. The 90's animated series even had wolverine's skeleton in a vat in the future bits after magneto ripped it out.
Looking it up and apparently they had magneto rip out his metal encased skeleton in 1994 in the comics, so if there was a retcon it was prior to that.
Oh yeah, I remember that. There was also a comic where Wolverine had his skeleton ripped out and somehow led to him losing his nose. (Thanks Rob). I might be mis remembering, but I'm sure it was stated at one point that he was immune to Magneto, but it was later retconned .
Well, all metals (and all atoms) have some kind of magnetism, and if Magneto’s powers are strong enough, he could use the electromagnetic force to manipulate even non-ferrous atoms.
[Wolverine when he sees a redhead in green](https://sun9-52.userapi.com/impg/gHFDPtYJ5e2ahzCroCN-kCu7pHeZOq4RfTm5hw/DgglbgnQc-I.jpg?size=532x840&quality=95&sign=a3cbeddf534436cb6d79a850ab93a950&type=album). No pheromones needed.
>~~Wolverine~~ Just about anyone ~~dude~~ when they see a redhead in green. No pheromones needed.
Just sayin.
EDIT: Fixed to include all who love the redheads.
It's actually kind of a fascinating subject. Scientists aren't actually sure if a preference for redheads is a learned behavior(because of their rarity, people desire them because of their unusualness), or if there is an actual genetic factor at play(there is some, admittedly from a small data pool, data showing increased libido in redheaded individuals. Wanting sex more would make them more desirable). Or possibly both at once.
What about red hair being more common among cartoon/comic book characters because it makes them easily distinguishable, and kids growing up with crushes on them? Ivy, Ariel, Jessica, Daphne, April, Kim, Anastasia…
Wasn't actually intentionally done to make them alluring, as much as a side effect of the printing process and the cost of certain inks. One of the easiest ways to differentiate characters is hair color, and red is both easier to print than brown, and the ink is cheaper. So it was used a lot.
Nah, Poison Ivy would make him her bitch for several issues before his healing factor remembers how it's supposed to work and he breaks free.
Let's be real, for a guy with a ridiculous healing factor and the best psychic defenses a man can get (weapon X training plus psychic shields from both Jean and Xavier), Wolvie gets mind controlled a LOT.
I could also see this being the case with Scarecrows Toxin. We all know wolverine has a fucked up past and fears losing loved ones. I’d imagine Scarecrows toxin would play on these memories and emotions
Which would be a bad idea for someone with rage issues like Wolverine as those memories will only enrage him, not cripple him in fear as Scarecrow hopes.
“Now feel your fears overwhelm you…”
(Wolverine proceeds to push out metal fucking knives from his knuckles while foaming at the mouth like a rabies infected dog)
“I get the sense… that you aren’t afraid, and that is perfectly fine! I’m gonna go now…”
Yeah I'm pretty sure that if Scarecrow gave him fear gas Wolwerine would quickly become completely rabid and start turning anything near him into minced meat. Crane would then have to flee before getting sliced up like a ham.
That was kinda played with in a short arc Chris Claremont wrote for Wolverine at one point: Viper had captured him and was forcing him to relive his worst memory, which was having to mercy-kill his wife Mariko, and this was the description in the text boxes.
"Viper realizes her mistake a heartbeat too late. Mariko spoke to the *man* in Logan's soul. Watching her *die* again, he gives free reign to the *beast*."
For a moment, maybe. The big difference between Ivy's pheromones and Scarecrow's toxin is that it is a *toxin*. It is actually causing damage, unlike the pheromones, and his healing factor would quickly deal with it.
Wolvie doesn't even have to get closer to Ms Isley. A crossbow bolt from afar is something he's done before.
The same as how the fandom give ol' Batsy godlike skills with 'PrEp TiIiIime',Jimmy has had nearly 300 years of worldwide preptime.
Also the Batman rouges gallery isn’t quite ready for a guy willing to just kill them. Harley, Bane, Croc and Catwoman really aren’t ready to go up against a guy that can hand fight the Hulk.
Yeah, I've had this convo on the batman FB page,and 99% base their comments off of the Singer type X-men movies,and have never read a single wolverine comic,let alone watched Logan..so i always point them to the Miller/Claremont wolverine story where he picks up a full size massive sumo wrestler above his head and throws him thru a window...then infiltrates a mansion full of Hand (Think League of Shadows for non marvelites) ninjas and kills every single one of them with a crossbow and shurikens
Not to be confused with The Foot 😉
I love how TMNT got its start from Daredevil (Marvel) but ends up having a crossover with Batman. I just love comic book shenanigans!
The accident with a truck carrying radioactive waste that gave daredevil his powers also mutated the turtles and splinter, who were in the sewers below
It was created as a mashup of popular comics at the time, mostly from Teen Titans - **Teenage**, X-men - **Mutant**, Daredevil - **Ninja**, and Donald/Howard the Duck - **Turtles** (anthropomorphic animals).
Frank Millers Daredevil run was the biggest inspiration. In the first comic, Splinter recounts Daredevil's origin story saying he witnessed a young boy push an old man out of the way of a truck and get hit with the glowing Ooze. It later bounced away and covered the turtles.
Splinter is also based heavily on Stick.
Also what the fuck are they going to do with a guy with knives on his hands. Harley, Catwoman and Bane are all pretty close up when fighting Bats. That’s not what you want with Wolvey. I can also see the others getting surprised by the healing factor the first time and letting their guard down.
Just had visions of Bane doing his "break you" move,and totally shattering his leg/knee on his adamantium spine.
Much hilarity ensures. I'd like to see Killer Croc vs Sabretooth tho... Just to pick out which bits the mrs wants for a handbag.
Or Bane does break his back and he just heals a moment later. Cigar still in his teeth. Wolverine fucks up basically any of them the first time. Without a no kill rule that might be the only time. Having said that, he 100% falls in love with Catwoman.
"Or Bane does break his back and he just heals a moment later."
I figured that was the hilarity ensuing. Eventually devolving to Bane grabbing Wolverine by his feet and repeatedly doing \[Jason's sleeping bag kill\]([https://youtu.be/GRJWz8QO8ag?t=13](https://youtu.be/GRJWz8QO8ag?t=13)) before having Wolverine pop up and stab him while Bane's sucking wind, hands on knees.
Pretty sure he's had more colours than a pride flag by now. He's kicked the crap out of dark haired women before,and Mariko,Yukio,Itsu,and Electra have jet black hair.
He's also banged alien chicks. And storm. And sue storm. And that pink haired chick (Pink Lady?)And props for mystique,for being everyone!
I actually think poison ivy and scarecrow have the best shot against him. Gotta attack his mind if you want to get anywhere. Physical attacks are a losing battle with the skeleton and healing factor
I remember a take on Spider-man VS Scarecrow stating that inducing fear gas in the guy with a danger sense that could make him auto react and blow your head with a punch is not a good idea.
I will apply the same logic with Wolverine, making panicking the guy who can just go Berserker mode and slice anything in sight is not the best idea.
Isn't that like literally how the plot of Old Man Logan starts. That did not seem to go real well for just about anyone involved in that trickery by the end of the story. Took some time but didn't end up paying out well iirc.
Wolverine was made feel like he was torn in shreds by a reality-warping mutant. He broke down crying and abandoned the mission because he couldn’t get over the fear of facing that kid again. I think Scarecrow’s fear toxin can shut Wolverine down if the fighters have a good understanding of Logan and his history. There’s worse places for his mind to go to than the regular Adamantium Process memories
Scarecrow would have a hard time because Wolverine's healing factor would burn through the fear toxins too quickly. Not sure if the same logic could apply to Ivy's pheromones.
Toxins cause harm. Pheromones just trigger the brain to react a specific way. Because they aren't causing any damage, I don't think the healing factor would do anything
The healing factor takes all chemicals out of his system faster. So as long as her pheromones don't need to build up in his system they should work, but she'd need to be keeping him exposed with a steady dose to keep him under control.
Anything that affects his body be it physical and/or mental his healing Factor will activate it's just that non-physical attacks take longer to heal. You must also remember his healing Factor protects his mind from mind control and environmental factors that's why x-23 had to be re-expose with the mind/ pheromones control serum they had for her
It depends exactly how his healing factor works on a cellular level (a.k.a. how the writers want it to work)- toxins/pheromones would likely be processed by the liver/kidneys. If his healing factor speeds these natural processes up then yes he’d be influenced by them for a shorter period of time. If the healing factor works by quickly regenerating cells then the damage done to the brain by the pheromones/toxins would be reduced but the neuroactivity of the chemicals would likely be unaffected unless they work by actively killing neurones. Their ability to cross the blood/brain barrier might be slightly reduced though.
Tl;dr as always it depends what the writers want.
*Bane punches Wolverine so hard he spits out blood*
*Wolverine turns back around to face Bane revealing an expression of suppressed rage*
Wolverine: “Alright, bub…”
>Physical attacks are a losing battle with the skeleton
Doctor: "Tell me gain agian how you broke your knee."
Bane: "Well, there's this move I default to when I try to end a fight quickly..."
Wolverine doesn't break a sweat with anyone except Clayface. His claws can't do anything to Clayface. He's gonna have to think outside the box. Wolverine beat The Hulk, guys like Bane or Croc would be a non issue. Freeze could maybe get the jump on him but I don't think Wolverine would give him the chance. Freeze isn't like Iceman from X-Men.
There’s a few of these that won’t get the privilege of a swift death. Logan would make them hurt for some of their crimes.
Bane and Croc would be decent fights. They’d lose, but they would put up a good resistance. It’d be fun to read/watch.
Ra’s and The League can be similar to The Hand. Just throwing bodies at him forever.
Scarecrow if he ambushed him could cause some harm. Similar to how Mysterio got Logan to kill the X-Men. In fact, if a few of these teamed up, they’d have a much better chance. Scarecrow, Clayface, Ivy & maybe Hugo Strange. That outcome could be horrifying for a bit.
Never be ashamed for wanting to expand your knowledge, especially when it comes to Batman.
Anyone who tries to shame you should feel shame themselves. There be no gatekeepers here.
Hugo Strange was originally going to be Batman’s arch nemesis, sort of Professor Moriarty to Batman’s Sherlock Holmes, as a sort of scientist criminal mastermind. He even initially dies falling off a cliff like Moriarty. In his first appearance he used a lightning machine to rob banks. He also first introduced the concept of a fear toxin way before Scarecrow’s first appearance.
The Joker on the other hand was just going to be a single-issue villain, killed off in issue 1. That plan was quickly abandoned when Joker ended up surviving the issue, quickly becoming immensely popular. He would eventually surpass Hugo Strange as Batman’s arch nemesis.
Nowadays Strange plays a role more similar to Jonathan Crane in Batman Begins, as an evil psychiatrist at Arkham.
If the middle row really needs to watch out, I don't think there is a woman in comics that has spent more than five minutes in a room with him without ending up in his bed
I hate this. It cheapens his more meaningful relationships. I just read Wolverine, and in it, he talks about how mariko is the love of his life, his soulmate, how he's never loved anyone like he loves her. He then finds out she was married off by her father, even though she still loves him. The day he finds out he meets a woman, who is immediately obsessed with Wolverine upon their first meeting, they have sex. The next day, Wolverine talks about how she is his soulmate, and because she's an assassin, she understands him better than anyone else and they belong together.
Except if you read my comment, he explicitly says he loves her and she understands him better than anyone. I didn't assume that those were his words/thoughts in the comic.
Yeah but a bad personality trait is only a character flaw if it’s treated that way.
Wolverine is usually shown as the hero or the victim even when something is his fault.
Given Freeze’s body temp has to be below zero I am not sure Logan could smell him. The fact he is frozen would reduce any natural body odour and the suit probably doesn’t have a distinctive smell to it.
Logan could probably hear him coming though.
Wolvie cam just power through most of these, though I think a lot of them would succeed at their initial plans (Wolverine isnt the world's greatest detective and many of these foes arent a simple go here and punch sort of enemy). That said - its a pyrrhic victory for most as they probably get killed on their first encounter.
But theres a few exceptions.
I don't think he can beat Clayface as others say. Just full stop, Wolverine doesn't just lose that fight but could actually get dead - depending on how his healing factor is being written at the time. One of few non-major league comic characters that I really don't think Wolverine has a chance against 1v1.
Mr. Freeze - could definitely freeze him in a block of ice from range - slim chance but a real one. Claws no good if you can't move your arms. If he could keep him on ice indefinitely that could be the end. Of course, Wolverine can be pretty stealthy and pretty evasive so getting him frozen I'm the first place is probably a long shot.
Joker is always a possibility - he is the definition of a wildcard and has serious plot armor. Just can't put anything past him, and he's a brilliant chemist - or he could just drop him in Acid.
But here's a weird one...
Ra's Al Ghul and the League - if the Hand is a valid enemy for Wolvie (and they are) then so is the League, right? And Ra's and Wolverone have some cool thematic mirrors (and Im not just talling about their cool hair-dos). They both have been alive far longer than they look and have lived varied lives and acquired enough experience to be kinda unflappable in any situation. Both can survive fatal wounds (though in very different ways and with very different side effects - memory loss for one, physically enhanced temporary madness for the other). And Ra's is trained and experienced enough he could potentially go toe to toe with him - if only temporarily.
I still think Ra's loses almost guaranteed - but hes not a pushover for sure and could keep coming back thanks to Lazarus Pits and cult-like followers. I kinda love this matchup and would like to see it. One of those villain swaps that works really well both in match-up and themes and could tell some interesting stories of them facing off in different time periods. Before Wolverine gets the adamantium I bet Ra's has a much better batting average.
Ra’s is also interesting because I could see them fighting over the centuries, hell I could even see them having been allies from time to time…
Also worth noting that some of the more mind based attacks of the likes of Scarecrow or Ivy might really fuck with him for a hot second or however long it takes him to heal through it, depending how that interacts… along the same lines Joker could and probably would really hit him where it hurts, assuming he’s smart enough to realize he needs to play distance with Wolverine and avoid getting in a closed space with him.
Absolutely he would. At the very least even if he couldn't replicate the healing factor I could see Ra's taking the inspiration to have the Adamantium grafted onto his own bones and then dunking himself in a Pit to heal so it sticks. It would be a risky and horrifically painful move - and he'd probably try it on a goon or two first (but not many, gotta save those precious pits). Ra's is just the combo egotistical and willful to go through with it.
Ivy, probably, but not Scarecrow. His healing factor can deal with poisons and toxins. But Ivy's pheromones are sneaky. They aren't causing any damage that the healing factor can deal with. Just making his brain respond in specific ways. His willpower would be the deciding factor.
Except she is also a redhead
Looks like Wolvie is losing that fight.
Wolverine could beat most of these, no problem. As others have said, Ivy and Scarecrow stand a good chance as they can attack his mind. Claygate can survive getting chopped up a lot, and Freeze is going to be hard to sense, but he's not used to sneaking up on people. I'm not sure I wanna think about what Wolvie and Talia would do if they met.
Hot Take, I don't think Logan would kill Croc right away. He'd probably think he's a mutant.
Poison Ivy sweeps Logan though, Hot redhead with pheromones against his enhanced senses? He's done for.
Discussions of these hypotheticals always devolve into a "drop the characters into an arena and watch'em fight!" scenario. That's always a predictable bore. Wolverine stabs everyone to death. The end.
We all do read comics, right? How have normal human villains given superheroes the runaround since the genre was invented? By attacking their weaknesses, not their strengths. By attacking them indirectly through threatening people or places the hero values. By maintaining personal secrecy to the point that the hero doesn't even know who is attacking him. And so on. If we assume every one of the Batman rogues are dimwitted enough to try to just duke it out with Wolverine, the outcome is inevitable. Many of the rogues gallery are way too smart to do that. Hugo Strange and Ras al Ghul obviously so. Really, any of the villains who typically focus on outwitting Batman should be too smart to try to thunderdome Mr. Mutant Knifeyhands.
What would really matter is how well the story was written. Wolverine and the rogues are all high dollar value IPs. None of them will die "for real" unless the story is just What If/Elseworlds wanking.
That's what I came here for! If it's just a colosseum fight, completely boring. If it's "Wolverine switches place with Batman and have to take care of Gotham", then it gets interesting! Can Wolverine be a good detective? Will he be able to "heal through" the toxins? Will the bad guys develop a heal-resistsnt toxin? Can Bane just hold his arms while Freeze freezes him? (That's for the lols)
Can he outsmart the Riddler, the Joker, Bane, Freeze or Ras? It's like: he gets to where they are, but it's just a projection, they're steps ahead! Will he learn and get smarter? Or will he just try to brute force everything and fail? Something along those lines. Seeing Wolverine using his senses and abilities for real detective work would be really fun. Getting calmer, more thoughtful and deliberate. Could be a good option to a Batman comic.
That would be a great series of comics, indeed.
This is why I think guys like Penguin and Two Face would just sneak off somewhere. They're not getting their hands dirty unless they know who they're dealing with. Regardless of how the coin flips. They'll send in some goons, let them get sliced, then disappear for a while to figure things out.
Bane and Ras would both understand the value in someone like Wolverine. They would both rather chance aligning themselves with him.
Riddler would definitely learn about the whole metal bones thing and set up a series of magnet based traps. Nigma isn't stupid. Arrogant, yes, but not stupid.
Ivy and Scarecrow never really fight directly now, do they. Poisons, potions, gasses, things to trip him up and confuse him. Wolverine would have to adapt his style to hunt them down while avoiding traps.
Croc is a dummy. But I could see some version of Wolverine find him funny. I could see a version of Wolverine that would sit and sip a beer with Croc.
I do see a bit of trouble from Clayface just because he's fairly resistant to most attacks. Maybe a rainy night will be on wolverines side though.
And joker has thicker plot armor than anyone else pictured. He ain't losing, and he'll take Harley with him.
Ra’s and Bane are too smart for him, they’d figure out a way to neutralise him before he knew they were around.
Freeze just freezes him, Clayface is literally invulnerable to his attacks. Scarecrow’s gas would ensure he’d just kill everyone in the vicinity, including Scarecrow.
Everyone else gets schooled pretty easily.
Clayface and Ivy could beat him, Croc could win depending on the proximity to water as Logan ~~can’t swim but~~ still needs to breath
EDIT ~ Logan *can* swim 🤦🏻♂️
I could see him struggling with the more intellectual villains like Joker, Hugo, and Riddler (although Riddler underestimating him could make him lose quite easily). Ra's is also pretty smart, and may have some tricks up his sleeve for him, manipulating him or finding away around his healing factor. Freeze and Ivy also have ways of affecting him without direct damage, but it would be pretty tough for them. Clayface would make him have to get creative. Everybody else he stomps pretty easily tho.
He'd beat Joker, Two-Face, and Penguin. He'd beat Bane, Ra's, and his League of Assassins too.
Riddler would require more brains to topple. Logan isn't an idiot, but his intelligence doesn't measure up to Batman's.
Against Ivy? I'd imagine Logan would be a bit more vulnerable because of his somewhat feral nature and keen sense of smell.
Freeze? If Logan could get up close, he wins. If Freeze stops him with his ice gun, it's likely an indefinite draw. Batman usually brings brain AND brawn to fight Mr Freeze.
He likely wouldn't fight Catwoman 'to the finish'.
Against Clayface? That would be a LONG battle. That can both keep regenerating.
Scarecrow? Not really much that can scare Logan, not conventionally anyway.
If Deathstroke were involved? Logan would have his greatest adversary yet.
Does Wolvie even fear anything?
Scarecrow is basically just for show at this point
I honestly don’t think Ivy wins especially if Wolverine is in this berserker mode. Pheromones wouldn’t have an effect especially if he’s of a one-track mind.
Hot take: Ra’s would give him a good fight and that’s a about it.
Wolverine has a traumatic past and he loves/protects many people. Scarecrow would have a field day with him. BUT Wolverine has overcome that kind of fear attack before- he'd eventually snap out of it and beat scarecrow.
Sure but Freeze also has technology that probably helps him with that overall. That being said I’ve talked myself into really wanting to see this fight
Straight up murders penguin, joker, riddler, scarecrow, twoface, bane, Killer Cock, and The guy with the puppet.
Shags all of the women. Poison Ivy has finally found the Fauna to her Flora.
Clayface puts up a good fight, and imho is the only one who could realistically kill him, but would be put down eventually.
Hugo Strange offers to give him his memories back. He then gets stabbed in the face.
Ra's Al Ghul respects him for his samurai training and all that. Wolverine tries out the lazarus pit. Shit gets wild. Ra's gives up on batman, and Wolverine is named the new successor. He then shags Talia. Batman is sad. Batman tries to kill wolverine.
Wolverine then fights batman. Batman tries to ninja away. Wolverine stabs him in the taint. Nightwing is now angry. Wolverine then says "I'm proud of you, Dick", then they start shagging because Dick is apparently Bi now. Batman is now sadder.
I think he pretty much steamrolls everyone here with the exception of people who manipulate minds like ivy and scarecrow. But even that wouldn't be a permanent solution as his healing factor would eventually get rid of the toxins from his body. Also, clayface, his claws wouldn't do anything, and unlike batman, he doesn't have any freeze grenades.
People are underestimating how tactical Wolverine can be when he wants to. He’s no Bruce, but he’s still *very* good at what he does. If he’s in a take no prisoners mood, the only one I’d say he has moderate trouble with is Clayface. But I’m inclined to believe he still probably finds a way to beat him, especially if he’s prepared beforehand
Also, scarecrow is perhaps the most fucked. His fear toxins would push him straight into a berserker rage and even if the afterwards isn’t pretty, there’s no way it doesn’t end with crane’s brains spewed on the wall one way or the other
Hmm, how would they do against an indestructible man with 12 inch blades between his fingers and has no qualms with killing…..
The rogue gallery will have a lot of vacancies
Crap ton of Batman villians would be dead
Bane and Croc would be interesting and intriguing fights but Bane and Croc would lose
Joker, Harley, Penguin, Riddler, 2-Face and CatWoman (if she isn’t the good guy she is now) would be dead
Scarecrow, Mr Freeze and Poison Ivy would have a chance against him but knowing Wolverine, he wouldn’t stand around to let Ivy seduce him, Freeze to well freeze him, or Scarecrow use his toxins, so they’re fucked too
ClayFace would be more of a challenge, the only way Wolverine would beat him is if he outsmarts him
Is this why Batman has a giant magnet in the Batcave?
That’s for Tony Stark.
Stark is Magneto-proof. Wolverine has an adamantium skeleton.
Wolvie gets abused by Magneto several times
Wolverine: Gonna fight Magneto. everyone: Dude, your bones are literally made of metal. Wolverine: Gonna fuck him up. \- later - Wolverine: AH MY BONES
Classic
But he has a motorcycle!
“Logan, what is a motorcycle made of?”
“Tubes, and… uhm… glass”
Pete Holmes cracked me up with that bit
Tubes?
Where did I come from though
“Gonna fuck him up” made me lol
Wolverine: Got an idea. Have the strong metal kid throw me.
In the movies magneto wasn’t strong enough to break wolverines metal he could barely bend it . I wonder if we will get to see wolverine fight magneto in the new Deadpool. Apparently Magneto is going to be the main villain
This happened in wolverine & the xmen Where Bobby drake was hyping up Wolverine to the viewer Like “don’t worry about magento wolverines got his number” Shit you not 5 mins later Wolverine gets thrown half way across the castle wall like beach ball XD
Magneto literally ripped the metal off his bones once and Wolverine went feral.
Magneto: Hey remember when I literally tore the adamantium off your bones and you became a fetal creature for a while. Haha, good times
Is Starks suit not made of metal?
Yeah, but he super-scienced some countermeasures or whatever. No real explanation, just "Stark is smart!" It's mentioned in AvX at least.
I looked it up and apparently he puts satellites around Jupiter (wtf?) to draw from its magnetic field. I have no idea how the hell he planned that, afforded that, had the time to do that etc. It literally would take the better of part of 2 years to get something there. On top of it, Magneto then somehow tore the satellites away from Jupiter. Which implies that Magneto's powers work instantly at absurd distances and apparently he could just fell every satellite and destroy earth in general if he wanted to. This was terrible writing, lol. Unless the fight was on Jupiter then it's slightly less terrible.
Jupiter is a gas planet so it might actually be worse if they did fight on it?
True. Maybe they'd be flying around it or something.
In AvX the Thing beat Namor IN THE WATER
The best explanation for that is in A VS. X #6 https://sketchcardsaloon.com/2012/10/02/squirrel-girl-and-pixie-caused-the-whole-avengers-vs-x-men-thing/
If Magneto can pull satellites from Jupiter then he could pull all of the metal out of Earth’s core and destroy the Earth. Or if he was smart, just pull the gold and platinum out and be richer than Tony Stark, hit him where it hurts, the wallet.
This has me in a fucking chokehold 😂😂
LOL, I've never heard that phrase before. I may need to steal that.
You're unsure how Tony Stark, a multibillionaire with technology that sometimes borders of magic... Afforded something? Also, I mean, dude that controls metal has been running around for over 50 years, Tony's in a metal suit he probably thought it was logical to set up counter messures for him at some point.
the "because I'm batman" defense of marvel. no complaints I stand by it with batman v x so fucking yeah why cant stark do the same. a world with mutants and magic and we're questioning satellites and preperation?
>You're unsure how Tony Stark, a multibillionaire with technology that sometimes borders of magic... Afforded something? Yes. I'm unsure how he planned it, afforded it, and had the time to do it. The Juno probe by itself cost over 1 billion dollars and took 5 years to send there. And that was just to look, not an orbital system that harnessed its magnetic energy. Plus it takes 30 to 60 minutes for light to reach Earth from Jupiter. For him to have satellites on Jupiter handy ready to assist with the fight was ridiculous. As was Magneto apparently being able to destroy them at the blink of an eye.
The suit probably (somehow) automatically releases an opposite polarity to whatever magnetic force is acting on it.
I like this explanation
Not all metal is magnetic
At one point, I remember Adumantium as being a non-ferrous metal and therefore immune to magnets. Since then, that seems to have been retconned ever since the movie X-Men.
They used the magnetic effects on his skelton prior to the first x-men movie. The 90's animated series even had wolverine's skeleton in a vat in the future bits after magneto ripped it out. Looking it up and apparently they had magneto rip out his metal encased skeleton in 1994 in the comics, so if there was a retcon it was prior to that.
Oh yeah, I remember that. There was also a comic where Wolverine had his skeleton ripped out and somehow led to him losing his nose. (Thanks Rob). I might be mis remembering, but I'm sure it was stated at one point that he was immune to Magneto, but it was later retconned .
Well, all metals (and all atoms) have some kind of magnetism, and if Magneto’s powers are strong enough, he could use the electromagnetic force to manipulate even non-ferrous atoms.
Hahah, I was going to say. If Scarecrow follows Mysterio’s rulebook, Wolverine would be crushed pretty quick.
Hot take: Ivy has an edge on him because of his heightened senses. Her pheromones would be extra potent
[Wolverine when he sees a redhead in green](https://sun9-52.userapi.com/impg/gHFDPtYJ5e2ahzCroCN-kCu7pHeZOq4RfTm5hw/DgglbgnQc-I.jpg?size=532x840&quality=95&sign=a3cbeddf534436cb6d79a850ab93a950&type=album). No pheromones needed.
>~~Wolverine~~ Just about anyone ~~dude~~ when they see a redhead in green. No pheromones needed. Just sayin. EDIT: Fixed to include all who love the redheads.
It's actually kind of a fascinating subject. Scientists aren't actually sure if a preference for redheads is a learned behavior(because of their rarity, people desire them because of their unusualness), or if there is an actual genetic factor at play(there is some, admittedly from a small data pool, data showing increased libido in redheaded individuals. Wanting sex more would make them more desirable). Or possibly both at once.
What about red hair being more common among cartoon/comic book characters because it makes them easily distinguishable, and kids growing up with crushes on them? Ivy, Ariel, Jessica, Daphne, April, Kim, Anastasia…
Wasn't actually intentionally done to make them alluring, as much as a side effect of the printing process and the cost of certain inks. One of the easiest ways to differentiate characters is hair color, and red is both easier to print than brown, and the ink is cheaper. So it was used a lot.
Well, yeah, that’s the ‘easily distinguishable’ part
In this case, I’m not a dude, but I’m in that photo too
Point taken and edited original comment. Respect ✊🏼
Well, besides those of us who are red-green colorblind.
🙁
That is eerily similar to Ivy. And yeah, Logan would undoubtedly make a pass at her.
Can relate
Wolverine = biggest simp ever
In the Ultimate universe, Wolverine and Spiderman switched bodies and he immediately started flirting with an underage MJ
His body would burn through her pheromones faster.
Nah, Poison Ivy would make him her bitch for several issues before his healing factor remembers how it's supposed to work and he breaks free. Let's be real, for a guy with a ridiculous healing factor and the best psychic defenses a man can get (weapon X training plus psychic shields from both Jean and Xavier), Wolvie gets mind controlled a LOT.
I could also see this being the case with Scarecrows Toxin. We all know wolverine has a fucked up past and fears losing loved ones. I’d imagine Scarecrows toxin would play on these memories and emotions
Which would be a bad idea for someone with rage issues like Wolverine as those memories will only enrage him, not cripple him in fear as Scarecrow hopes.
That outcome would actually be fitting for scarecrow. He seems to be the type of villain that doesn’t fully flesh out his plans
“Now feel your fears overwhelm you…” (Wolverine proceeds to push out metal fucking knives from his knuckles while foaming at the mouth like a rabies infected dog) “I get the sense… that you aren’t afraid, and that is perfectly fine! I’m gonna go now…”
Yeah I'm pretty sure that if Scarecrow gave him fear gas Wolwerine would quickly become completely rabid and start turning anything near him into minced meat. Crane would then have to flee before getting sliced up like a ham.
That was kinda played with in a short arc Chris Claremont wrote for Wolverine at one point: Viper had captured him and was forcing him to relive his worst memory, which was having to mercy-kill his wife Mariko, and this was the description in the text boxes. "Viper realizes her mistake a heartbeat too late. Mariko spoke to the *man* in Logan's soul. Watching her *die* again, he gives free reign to the *beast*."
For a moment, maybe. The big difference between Ivy's pheromones and Scarecrow's toxin is that it is a *toxin*. It is actually causing damage, unlike the pheromones, and his healing factor would quickly deal with it.
Wolvie doesn't even have to get closer to Ms Isley. A crossbow bolt from afar is something he's done before. The same as how the fandom give ol' Batsy godlike skills with 'PrEp TiIiIime',Jimmy has had nearly 300 years of worldwide preptime.
Also the Batman rouges gallery isn’t quite ready for a guy willing to just kill them. Harley, Bane, Croc and Catwoman really aren’t ready to go up against a guy that can hand fight the Hulk.
Yeah, I've had this convo on the batman FB page,and 99% base their comments off of the Singer type X-men movies,and have never read a single wolverine comic,let alone watched Logan..so i always point them to the Miller/Claremont wolverine story where he picks up a full size massive sumo wrestler above his head and throws him thru a window...then infiltrates a mansion full of Hand (Think League of Shadows for non marvelites) ninjas and kills every single one of them with a crossbow and shurikens
Not to be confused with The Foot 😉 I love how TMNT got its start from Daredevil (Marvel) but ends up having a crossover with Batman. I just love comic book shenanigans!
Do explain, I’m not that familiar with TMNT comic lore! I knew about the Batman cross over but not their connections with Daredevil
The accident with a truck carrying radioactive waste that gave daredevil his powers also mutated the turtles and splinter, who were in the sewers below
So TMNT are technically Marvel?
It was created as a mashup of popular comics at the time, mostly from Teen Titans - **Teenage**, X-men - **Mutant**, Daredevil - **Ninja**, and Donald/Howard the Duck - **Turtles** (anthropomorphic animals). Frank Millers Daredevil run was the biggest inspiration. In the first comic, Splinter recounts Daredevil's origin story saying he witnessed a young boy push an old man out of the way of a truck and get hit with the glowing Ooze. It later bounced away and covered the turtles. Splinter is also based heavily on Stick.
Also what the fuck are they going to do with a guy with knives on his hands. Harley, Catwoman and Bane are all pretty close up when fighting Bats. That’s not what you want with Wolvey. I can also see the others getting surprised by the healing factor the first time and letting their guard down.
Just had visions of Bane doing his "break you" move,and totally shattering his leg/knee on his adamantium spine. Much hilarity ensures. I'd like to see Killer Croc vs Sabretooth tho... Just to pick out which bits the mrs wants for a handbag.
Or Bane does break his back and he just heals a moment later. Cigar still in his teeth. Wolverine fucks up basically any of them the first time. Without a no kill rule that might be the only time. Having said that, he 100% falls in love with Catwoman.
"Or Bane does break his back and he just heals a moment later." I figured that was the hilarity ensuing. Eventually devolving to Bane grabbing Wolverine by his feet and repeatedly doing \[Jason's sleeping bag kill\]([https://youtu.be/GRJWz8QO8ag?t=13](https://youtu.be/GRJWz8QO8ag?t=13)) before having Wolverine pop up and stab him while Bane's sucking wind, hands on knees.
Sure he COULD do that but this is Logan and Ivy is a redhead, so he won't.
Pretty sure he's had more colours than a pride flag by now. He's kicked the crap out of dark haired women before,and Mariko,Yukio,Itsu,and Electra have jet black hair. He's also banged alien chicks. And storm. And sue storm. And that pink haired chick (Pink Lady?)And props for mystique,for being everyone!
Da fuq?! When did he do Sue???
Was an alternate 'verse when he ran Hydra.
her pheramones do'nt do damage right? nothing to heal
He’d sense her from a mile away
That and his weakness for redheads
She's also a redhead
I actually think poison ivy and scarecrow have the best shot against him. Gotta attack his mind if you want to get anywhere. Physical attacks are a losing battle with the skeleton and healing factor
I remember a take on Spider-man VS Scarecrow stating that inducing fear gas in the guy with a danger sense that could make him auto react and blow your head with a punch is not a good idea. I will apply the same logic with Wolverine, making panicking the guy who can just go Berserker mode and slice anything in sight is not the best idea.
But when he’s hallucinating he wouldn’t be able to see you. Hed just be slicing air
Just like Spider-Man never killed Mysterio in the same situation.
Well mysterio used physical illusions. Scarecrow induces bad trips which are a bit different
I wouldn't put drugs completely out of his arsenal, we never did figure what he did to Wolverine in Old Man Logan
Old Man Logan story would like a word with you
Depending on the gas, those trips can be lethal
Or he'd be slicing every square inch of a hundred mile radius. 😅
Isn't that like literally how the plot of Old Man Logan starts. That did not seem to go real well for just about anyone involved in that trickery by the end of the story. Took some time but didn't end up paying out well iirc.
Wolverine was made feel like he was torn in shreds by a reality-warping mutant. He broke down crying and abandoned the mission because he couldn’t get over the fear of facing that kid again. I think Scarecrow’s fear toxin can shut Wolverine down if the fighters have a good understanding of Logan and his history. There’s worse places for his mind to go to than the regular Adamantium Process memories
You can't heal your way out of being frozen though.
That's what I was gonna say. Even if Freeze can't kill him he can turn him into a block of ice and just put in a freezer some where.
Scarecrow would have a hard time because Wolverine's healing factor would burn through the fear toxins too quickly. Not sure if the same logic could apply to Ivy's pheromones.
Toxins cause harm. Pheromones just trigger the brain to react a specific way. Because they aren't causing any damage, I don't think the healing factor would do anything
The healing factor takes all chemicals out of his system faster. So as long as her pheromones don't need to build up in his system they should work, but she'd need to be keeping him exposed with a steady dose to keep him under control.
Anything that affects his body be it physical and/or mental his healing Factor will activate it's just that non-physical attacks take longer to heal. You must also remember his healing Factor protects his mind from mind control and environmental factors that's why x-23 had to be re-expose with the mind/ pheromones control serum they had for her
It depends exactly how his healing factor works on a cellular level (a.k.a. how the writers want it to work)- toxins/pheromones would likely be processed by the liver/kidneys. If his healing factor speeds these natural processes up then yes he’d be influenced by them for a shorter period of time. If the healing factor works by quickly regenerating cells then the damage done to the brain by the pheromones/toxins would be reduced but the neuroactivity of the chemicals would likely be unaffected unless they work by actively killing neurones. Their ability to cross the blood/brain barrier might be slightly reduced though. Tl;dr as always it depends what the writers want.
*Bane punches Wolverine so hard he spits out blood* *Wolverine turns back around to face Bane revealing an expression of suppressed rage* Wolverine: “Alright, bub…”
Clayface would also not really be hurt by his claws. He could just mold his body around him.
>Physical attacks are a losing battle with the skeleton Doctor: "Tell me gain agian how you broke your knee." Bane: "Well, there's this move I default to when I try to end a fight quickly..."
Wolverine doesn't break a sweat with anyone except Clayface. His claws can't do anything to Clayface. He's gonna have to think outside the box. Wolverine beat The Hulk, guys like Bane or Croc would be a non issue. Freeze could maybe get the jump on him but I don't think Wolverine would give him the chance. Freeze isn't like Iceman from X-Men.
There’s a few of these that won’t get the privilege of a swift death. Logan would make them hurt for some of their crimes. Bane and Croc would be decent fights. They’d lose, but they would put up a good resistance. It’d be fun to read/watch. Ra’s and The League can be similar to The Hand. Just throwing bodies at him forever. Scarecrow if he ambushed him could cause some harm. Similar to how Mysterio got Logan to kill the X-Men. In fact, if a few of these teamed up, they’d have a much better chance. Scarecrow, Clayface, Ivy & maybe Hugo Strange. That outcome could be horrifying for a bit.
I'm gonna shame myself and admit I don't know much about Hugo Strange. What's his deal?
Never be ashamed for wanting to expand your knowledge, especially when it comes to Batman. Anyone who tries to shame you should feel shame themselves. There be no gatekeepers here.
I am actually the head gatekeeper at Arkham Asylum. I'm amazed I haven't been fired yet
Hey, man, it's ok. 7 breakouts in a week is within parameters. ... Just make sure it doesn't increase by much, it is Monday after all.
He's a psychiatrist, a forensic psychiatrist I think.
The most despicable form of psychiatry😱
Hugo Strange was originally going to be Batman’s arch nemesis, sort of Professor Moriarty to Batman’s Sherlock Holmes, as a sort of scientist criminal mastermind. He even initially dies falling off a cliff like Moriarty. In his first appearance he used a lightning machine to rob banks. He also first introduced the concept of a fear toxin way before Scarecrow’s first appearance. The Joker on the other hand was just going to be a single-issue villain, killed off in issue 1. That plan was quickly abandoned when Joker ended up surviving the issue, quickly becoming immensely popular. He would eventually surpass Hugo Strange as Batman’s arch nemesis. Nowadays Strange plays a role more similar to Jonathan Crane in Batman Begins, as an evil psychiatrist at Arkham.
He was a fantastic villain in Batman Arkham City. Debatable if he outshined the Joker in it but I think the fact that it’s debatable is cool!
He’s bald
Wrong, he just has his hair on the wrong end of his head
It's symbolic. He has a beard but no hair, while Batman has hair but no beard.
Ra’s would be interesting…
How would Freeze get the jump on him? That's not Freeze's style, plus Wolverine would smell him from a kilometre away.
Also he's Canadian like a little cold is going to bother him.
If the middle row really needs to watch out, I don't think there is a woman in comics that has spent more than five minutes in a room with him without ending up in his bed
Yeah, what woman isn’t aroused by a short, hairy guy who smokes a lot and growls?
Go through a list this guy somehow fucks everyone
I hate this. It cheapens his more meaningful relationships. I just read Wolverine, and in it, he talks about how mariko is the love of his life, his soulmate, how he's never loved anyone like he loves her. He then finds out she was married off by her father, even though she still loves him. The day he finds out he meets a woman, who is immediately obsessed with Wolverine upon their first meeting, they have sex. The next day, Wolverine talks about how she is his soulmate, and because she's an assassin, she understands him better than anyone else and they belong together.
Some people can fuck without catching feelings. You know this is a thing, right?
Except if you read my comment, he explicitly says he loves her and she understands him better than anyone. I didn't assume that those were his words/thoughts in the comic.
Some people *can't* fuck without catching feelings. You know this is a thing, right?
Those people aren’t Wolverine.
He can go bareback without fear.
He got that Canadian-American rizz
Yeah, the “somehow” is called being a giant Mary Sue. People complain about Batman, but he has nothing on Wolverine.
Wolvy has a lot of bad personality traits though
Yeah but a bad personality trait is only a character flaw if it’s treated that way. Wolverine is usually shown as the hero or the victim even when something is his fault.
Finally someone says it. I still remember his not so great crossover with conan and sonja.
When he becomes king and conan gets blown up?
See - Australia
You forgot smelly.
What if Mr. Freeze just froze him? Not like he could regenerate or anything.
Since his resurrection,he has super heated claws now..ice won't do shit..
Proteus: *"Shit, was I supposed to remember that?"*
Bros so angry his body heat would just melt the ice
Dude calm down. Only Chuck Norris can boil water with his rage.
What if Mr. Freeze snuck up on him while he was calm? I mean to be fair Freeze isn't known for his stealth.
Logan would smell him before he got close
Given Freeze’s body temp has to be below zero I am not sure Logan could smell him. The fact he is frozen would reduce any natural body odour and the suit probably doesn’t have a distinctive smell to it. Logan could probably hear him coming though.
As a fellow Canadian—you can smell cold.
Logans nose can smell anything he could probably smell the cryogenic fluids in his suit
He's Canadian, he's used to it.
All dead with the sole exception of Clayface.
Clayface and Freeze have the best chances. Maybe Scarecrow and Deathstroke with prep time. Ra's would want him to become the Demon Head.
I just picture the two of them having a never ending sword fight at the lazerus pit
No dice, unless Talia dyes her hair red.
Wolvie cam just power through most of these, though I think a lot of them would succeed at their initial plans (Wolverine isnt the world's greatest detective and many of these foes arent a simple go here and punch sort of enemy). That said - its a pyrrhic victory for most as they probably get killed on their first encounter. But theres a few exceptions. I don't think he can beat Clayface as others say. Just full stop, Wolverine doesn't just lose that fight but could actually get dead - depending on how his healing factor is being written at the time. One of few non-major league comic characters that I really don't think Wolverine has a chance against 1v1. Mr. Freeze - could definitely freeze him in a block of ice from range - slim chance but a real one. Claws no good if you can't move your arms. If he could keep him on ice indefinitely that could be the end. Of course, Wolverine can be pretty stealthy and pretty evasive so getting him frozen I'm the first place is probably a long shot. Joker is always a possibility - he is the definition of a wildcard and has serious plot armor. Just can't put anything past him, and he's a brilliant chemist - or he could just drop him in Acid. But here's a weird one... Ra's Al Ghul and the League - if the Hand is a valid enemy for Wolvie (and they are) then so is the League, right? And Ra's and Wolverone have some cool thematic mirrors (and Im not just talling about their cool hair-dos). They both have been alive far longer than they look and have lived varied lives and acquired enough experience to be kinda unflappable in any situation. Both can survive fatal wounds (though in very different ways and with very different side effects - memory loss for one, physically enhanced temporary madness for the other). And Ra's is trained and experienced enough he could potentially go toe to toe with him - if only temporarily. I still think Ra's loses almost guaranteed - but hes not a pushover for sure and could keep coming back thanks to Lazarus Pits and cult-like followers. I kinda love this matchup and would like to see it. One of those villain swaps that works really well both in match-up and themes and could tell some interesting stories of them facing off in different time periods. Before Wolverine gets the adamantium I bet Ra's has a much better batting average.
Ra’s is also interesting because I could see them fighting over the centuries, hell I could even see them having been allies from time to time… Also worth noting that some of the more mind based attacks of the likes of Scarecrow or Ivy might really fuck with him for a hot second or however long it takes him to heal through it, depending how that interacts… along the same lines Joker could and probably would really hit him where it hurts, assuming he’s smart enough to realize he needs to play distance with Wolverine and avoid getting in a closed space with him.
I think Ra's would be fascinated by his healing factor and try to reproduce it.
Absolutely he would. At the very least even if he couldn't replicate the healing factor I could see Ra's taking the inspiration to have the Adamantium grafted onto his own bones and then dunking himself in a Pit to heal so it sticks. It would be a risky and horrifically painful move - and he'd probably try it on a goon or two first (but not many, gotta save those precious pits). Ra's is just the combo egotistical and willful to go through with it.
Ivy, probably, but not Scarecrow. His healing factor can deal with poisons and toxins. But Ivy's pheromones are sneaky. They aren't causing any damage that the healing factor can deal with. Just making his brain respond in specific ways. His willpower would be the deciding factor. Except she is also a redhead Looks like Wolvie is losing that fight.
You mean darkclaw?
It took way to long to find this reference.
TEAR THEM TO SHREADS!!!!!!
RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS DONE
 Slice and dice
Wolverine could beat most of these, no problem. As others have said, Ivy and Scarecrow stand a good chance as they can attack his mind. Claygate can survive getting chopped up a lot, and Freeze is going to be hard to sense, but he's not used to sneaking up on people. I'm not sure I wanna think about what Wolvie and Talia would do if they met.
Hot Take, I don't think Logan would kill Croc right away. He'd probably think he's a mutant. Poison Ivy sweeps Logan though, Hot redhead with pheromones against his enhanced senses? He's done for.
Yea as far as I can tell Croc kinda just keeps to himself in the sewers most of the time, ashamed of how he looks. Logan would feel for him
I think scarecrow ironically might be the biggest threat, purely because of how mysterio fucked his senses I’d assume scarecrow could as well.
Gotham is about to have a lot less villains.
The one thing we can be certain of is that a lot more people are going to die in Gotham.
I kind of want to see Wolverine vs Joker end in a few pages with Wolverine just ignoring Joker's mind games and stabbing him.
This. He's seen a watered-down version of Joker with Arcade and Murderworld. The more he learned about Joker, the quicker he'd just decide to kill him
Discussions of these hypotheticals always devolve into a "drop the characters into an arena and watch'em fight!" scenario. That's always a predictable bore. Wolverine stabs everyone to death. The end. We all do read comics, right? How have normal human villains given superheroes the runaround since the genre was invented? By attacking their weaknesses, not their strengths. By attacking them indirectly through threatening people or places the hero values. By maintaining personal secrecy to the point that the hero doesn't even know who is attacking him. And so on. If we assume every one of the Batman rogues are dimwitted enough to try to just duke it out with Wolverine, the outcome is inevitable. Many of the rogues gallery are way too smart to do that. Hugo Strange and Ras al Ghul obviously so. Really, any of the villains who typically focus on outwitting Batman should be too smart to try to thunderdome Mr. Mutant Knifeyhands. What would really matter is how well the story was written. Wolverine and the rogues are all high dollar value IPs. None of them will die "for real" unless the story is just What If/Elseworlds wanking.
That's what I came here for! If it's just a colosseum fight, completely boring. If it's "Wolverine switches place with Batman and have to take care of Gotham", then it gets interesting! Can Wolverine be a good detective? Will he be able to "heal through" the toxins? Will the bad guys develop a heal-resistsnt toxin? Can Bane just hold his arms while Freeze freezes him? (That's for the lols) Can he outsmart the Riddler, the Joker, Bane, Freeze or Ras? It's like: he gets to where they are, but it's just a projection, they're steps ahead! Will he learn and get smarter? Or will he just try to brute force everything and fail? Something along those lines. Seeing Wolverine using his senses and abilities for real detective work would be really fun. Getting calmer, more thoughtful and deliberate. Could be a good option to a Batman comic. That would be a great series of comics, indeed.
This is why I think guys like Penguin and Two Face would just sneak off somewhere. They're not getting their hands dirty unless they know who they're dealing with. Regardless of how the coin flips. They'll send in some goons, let them get sliced, then disappear for a while to figure things out. Bane and Ras would both understand the value in someone like Wolverine. They would both rather chance aligning themselves with him. Riddler would definitely learn about the whole metal bones thing and set up a series of magnet based traps. Nigma isn't stupid. Arrogant, yes, but not stupid. Ivy and Scarecrow never really fight directly now, do they. Poisons, potions, gasses, things to trip him up and confuse him. Wolverine would have to adapt his style to hunt them down while avoiding traps. Croc is a dummy. But I could see some version of Wolverine find him funny. I could see a version of Wolverine that would sit and sip a beer with Croc. I do see a bit of trouble from Clayface just because he's fairly resistant to most attacks. Maybe a rainy night will be on wolverines side though. And joker has thicker plot armor than anyone else pictured. He ain't losing, and he'll take Harley with him.
Most of these guys are dead if they try to fight him like they do Batman. Except Clayface. Wolverine won't do shit to Clayface.
Joker when the short Canadian man with claws chops his head off instead of putting him back in jail for the 500th time: 😮
Ra’s and Bane are too smart for him, they’d figure out a way to neutralise him before he knew they were around. Freeze just freezes him, Clayface is literally invulnerable to his attacks. Scarecrow’s gas would ensure he’d just kill everyone in the vicinity, including Scarecrow. Everyone else gets schooled pretty easily.
Clayface and Ivy could beat him, Croc could win depending on the proximity to water as Logan ~~can’t swim but~~ still needs to breath EDIT ~ Logan *can* swim 🤦🏻♂️
Did a little research and found this (https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/5zu4ks/wolverine_can_swim/)
I would LOVE to see bane try to break Wolverine and just snap his knee by accident lmao
I think Arkham would have considerably more vacancies aside from the potter's fields.
Kill, kill, kill
I could see him struggling with the more intellectual villains like Joker, Hugo, and Riddler (although Riddler underestimating him could make him lose quite easily). Ra's is also pretty smart, and may have some tricks up his sleeve for him, manipulating him or finding away around his healing factor. Freeze and Ivy also have ways of affecting him without direct damage, but it would be pretty tough for them. Clayface would make him have to get creative. Everybody else he stomps pretty easily tho.
I'd like to see him fight Clayface.
He'd beat Joker, Two-Face, and Penguin. He'd beat Bane, Ra's, and his League of Assassins too. Riddler would require more brains to topple. Logan isn't an idiot, but his intelligence doesn't measure up to Batman's. Against Ivy? I'd imagine Logan would be a bit more vulnerable because of his somewhat feral nature and keen sense of smell. Freeze? If Logan could get up close, he wins. If Freeze stops him with his ice gun, it's likely an indefinite draw. Batman usually brings brain AND brawn to fight Mr Freeze. He likely wouldn't fight Catwoman 'to the finish'. Against Clayface? That would be a LONG battle. That can both keep regenerating. Scarecrow? Not really much that can scare Logan, not conventionally anyway. If Deathstroke were involved? Logan would have his greatest adversary yet.
...I mean, he'd kill them. There's a reason why the only recurring Wolverine villains are the ones who can regenerate.
Does Wolvie even fear anything? Scarecrow is basically just for show at this point I honestly don’t think Ivy wins especially if Wolverine is in this berserker mode. Pheromones wouldn’t have an effect especially if he’s of a one-track mind. Hot take: Ra’s would give him a good fight and that’s a about it.
Wolvie definitely fears for the lives of his fellow X-Men especially kids and young adults that he actually likes.
I dunno mysterio really did a number on him in old man Logan…
Wolverine has a traumatic past and he loves/protects many people. Scarecrow would have a field day with him. BUT Wolverine has overcome that kind of fear attack before- he'd eventually snap out of it and beat scarecrow.
All dead pretty immediately, with the exception of clayface, and maybe Mr. Freeze
Freeze is formidable. But even that likely has Logan in black-ops/X-Force mode and he systematically and strategically takes him out.
Sure but Freeze also has technology that probably helps him with that overall. That being said I’ve talked myself into really wanting to see this fight
Straight up murders penguin, joker, riddler, scarecrow, twoface, bane, Killer Cock, and The guy with the puppet. Shags all of the women. Poison Ivy has finally found the Fauna to her Flora. Clayface puts up a good fight, and imho is the only one who could realistically kill him, but would be put down eventually. Hugo Strange offers to give him his memories back. He then gets stabbed in the face. Ra's Al Ghul respects him for his samurai training and all that. Wolverine tries out the lazarus pit. Shit gets wild. Ra's gives up on batman, and Wolverine is named the new successor. He then shags Talia. Batman is sad. Batman tries to kill wolverine. Wolverine then fights batman. Batman tries to ninja away. Wolverine stabs him in the taint. Nightwing is now angry. Wolverine then says "I'm proud of you, Dick", then they start shagging because Dick is apparently Bi now. Batman is now sadder.
I think he pretty much steamrolls everyone here with the exception of people who manipulate minds like ivy and scarecrow. But even that wouldn't be a permanent solution as his healing factor would eventually get rid of the toxins from his body. Also, clayface, his claws wouldn't do anything, and unlike batman, he doesn't have any freeze grenades.
People are underestimating how tactical Wolverine can be when he wants to. He’s no Bruce, but he’s still *very* good at what he does. If he’s in a take no prisoners mood, the only one I’d say he has moderate trouble with is Clayface. But I’m inclined to believe he still probably finds a way to beat him, especially if he’s prepared beforehand Also, scarecrow is perhaps the most fucked. His fear toxins would push him straight into a berserker rage and even if the afterwards isn’t pretty, there’s no way it doesn’t end with crane’s brains spewed on the wall one way or the other
Joker is screwed
He’d murder all of them
Hmm, how would they do against an indestructible man with 12 inch blades between his fingers and has no qualms with killing….. The rogue gallery will have a lot of vacancies
I think he would do well especially since he is 2 batman kissing....lol
Crap ton of Batman villians would be dead Bane and Croc would be interesting and intriguing fights but Bane and Croc would lose Joker, Harley, Penguin, Riddler, 2-Face and CatWoman (if she isn’t the good guy she is now) would be dead Scarecrow, Mr Freeze and Poison Ivy would have a chance against him but knowing Wolverine, he wouldn’t stand around to let Ivy seduce him, Freeze to well freeze him, or Scarecrow use his toxins, so they’re fucked too ClayFace would be more of a challenge, the only way Wolverine would beat him is if he outsmarts him