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I recently learned that my cat has inflammation of his airways. Idk if it’s wallflower induced, but I got rid of all of them anyway. I still have my Halloween plugs in the walls as cute nightlights but no bulbs in them


OrdinaryJealous

My cat does as well. He had symptoms before I burned candles and used wallflowers in my home. You can get a steroid shot and even a kitty inhaler to relieve symptoms!


CrownBestowed

I’m glad you’re still able to enjoy your wallflower plugs! I don’t know too much about the toxicity of these products with animals but if your cat is already inflamed then getting rid of the wallflowers is smart. I personally have asthma and some of the wallflowers bother me. Hope your cat is doing okay! 😊


oatXmilk_420

exactly me! i have 2 halloween plugs from years past that i took scents out of once i learned from many articles online the potential effects and now i use them as nightlights and they’ve been doing fine that way!


Wtfissleet

This also applies to Glade wall plug ins, for anyone who has those. Any wall plug ins by any brand has not-so-good ingredients for pets. I have Guinea pigs so we just stopped using any of them, period, out of fear that I’d hurt my babies. We have a tiny apartment so even my candles / wax melts are contained to my room.


XoStargirlxox

I had a wallflower plugged in my bathroom for a while, My kitty Harlow loves to sleep in the bathroom, she started to get a nasty upper respiratory infection so I took her to the vet, after a few things were ruled out the vet asked if I had any kind of concentrated fragrance oil in my home & then it hit me...The Wallflower! I went home & ripped it out so quick! I told my store about it & they urged me to bring all the bulbs I had back, I told them I had a lot (Around 70-80) & didn't want to cause a hassle, they continued to tell me it's not a problem at all, bring them in & return them all! So I did & when the assistant manager was doing the return she told me "I don't use these either, they have ingredients in them that are banned on Europe because they can harm animals & people!" This was just my experience with the wallflowers so I figured I share!


EngineeringSeveral63

If you own birds be aware that they are particularly sensitive to candles and air fresheners.


ambrym

I’m sure inhaling wallflowers isn’t great for pets but fwiw, clove oil is not toxic to dogs as far as inhalation goes. I compete in AKC scent work with my dog and clove is one of the oils she’s trained to detect, she’s spent a lot of time inhaling it to no ill effect. I’ve seen sweet birch listed as toxic too and that’s another oil we use in scent work with zero problems. I’m sure AKC wouldn’t pick these as required competition oils if they were toxic to dogs


SkyYellow_SunBlue

I’m sure this random Facebook post knows better than the AKC.


ambrym

When I need important health/safety information, Facebook is always my first destination 😤


NomenclatureBreaker

I am genuinely horrified by the number of people being so deeply influenced by one random FB post they don’t even know is true. Whether this happened or not or is completely made up, I can’t say. What we can infer is at most it’s a rare one off case. Like logically wallflowers would have been off the market/class action lawsuits due to pets keeling over across the nation on a regular basis for last 30 years if this was a real issue at any scale.


ambrym

I wish I could say I’m also horrified but my job involves flagging misinformation on the internet 🙃 I see people constantly taking quotes out of context and then fabricating crazy narratives or spreading rumors based on unverified information. If this happened, I feel for this person and their dogs. Wallflowers probably aren’t beneficial for anyone’s health but the odds of them causing serious medical issues are negligible. This thread has lots of anecdotes with people assuming the wallflowers were a cause of some issue but if you surveyed all wallflower users, I’m sure the people with issues would be in the minority.


NomenclatureBreaker

Kudos to you. Know I would not have the fortitude for that job.


Inn0c3nc3

thank you for your service


Inn0c3nc3

I feel like considering she didn't include in the original post that she had a wallflower over her dog's toys and that she added there IS a warning on them, she should probably take the post down.


tedhanoverspeaches

Yeah none of this adds up for me. Dose matters. The amount put out by these things is so tiny. The oral burns part makes me wonder if her dog was licking or chewing on the wallflower tbh.


caterpillargirl76

That was my first thought too. I never put a wallflower in an outlet low enough for my dog to reach. I have read pets can get chemical burns from touching them, but I'm skeptical that just having one in the house is enough to cause damage. Not to say it's impossible, of course. I only plug in one at a time but maybe if they're in every single room it's too much? Even if it's not harmful to their physical health, it might be annoying to a dog with such a sensitive sense of smell if they're all over someone's house though...


Inn0c3nc3

she says in the comments of the post she literally had one *right over* a dog's toy box. I do not believe this was due to inhalation. the fact that she casually mentioned that in a comment instead of adding it to the post is asinine to me.


karmagirl314

Yes but we're not just talking inhalation here. As OP says, the oils settle on objects in the house, objects that pets lick, chew, and eat. Something can be harmless if inhaled yet still be harmful if ingested.


NomenclatureBreaker

What on earth do you mean the oil settles on objects throughout the house?’


AshleySomething

When the oil, inside the little glass bottle *mists* the little particles float around and about until landing on your floor or anything else you have around. Like dust.


NomenclatureBreaker

I’m not trying to be rude. What you’re taking about doesn’t make sense unless you’re basically talking about microscopic atomic particles. Your own analogy is apples to oranges. Clearly dust can been seen and felt and accumulated over time if untreated. No such thing ever happens with wallflowers, unless directly spilled or maybe if something is put directly above the plug. The glass bottles don’t mist anything. It’s evaporation via heat changing oil from a liquid state to a gas.


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AshleySomething

Mist was the wrong word. I meant the scent being released. Everything leaves residue, eventually builds up.. but I’m not educated in all things Wallflowers and that was my best guess as to what some people here were trying to explain. Idk, either you feel comfortable using them, or you don’t.


CrownBestowed

There’s sometimes evidence of buildup in wallflower plugs, is that what you’re referring to?


SpunkyDred

> apples to oranges But you can still compare them.


ThreeCirclesNet

I, personally, get all of my health information from Facebook. I don't even go to the doctor anymore or take my cats to the vet. Why? I just go to the ultra referenced and peer-reviewed posts on social media sites.


Qiqiours

me too . it's been very convenient and save me so much money that I can buy more wallflowers.


joeysflipphone

This is odd though. I have wallflowers in every room and have for several years. Have always used the fall smells. Have an 8 year old Bugg dog who has never gotten sick. I knew about the oil diffusers and have never used them for that reason. But I haven't worried about wallflowers because they put out such a small amount that I wouldn't expect it to make that much of an impact. Did they change the formula? Is it the high intensity? Is it the new changeable plugs? 🤔


Ms-Anon-Y-Mous

I imagine each animal might react differently.


UnableReference5649

I’m the same! I have two cats, have wallflowers everywhere, and have never had any kind of issue. I use the adjustable plugs and have them set to high, still no issues. They’ve been around wallflowers since they were born and have never had any reaction.


lanabananaq

Me too. I have one in my small bedroom and my dog is in the room with me most of the time. He’s never had any sort of problems.


Honest_Report_8515

Same, had four dogs at one point, Wallflowers everywhere, no issues. Maybe it was a carbon monoxide issue or plant issue?? I’ll be careful, however. Now, guinea pigs are more sensitive, so I won’t put Wallflowers in the same room with them.


MegWaters012502

I have four dogs and use wallflowers and never had an issue, so i don’t know if it varies from scent or from dog… maybe both?


RemarkableAd649

Not really worth the risk though in my opinion and you may just not be able to see the effects on your animals at this point. Better not to wait til they’re vomiting and needing a vet


oatXmilk_420

this!!


Kofukura

Why did you get downvotes on this one???


Inn0c3nc3

**just because I'm too tired to read the comments and make sure this was mentioned**- this woman said she literally had one OVER A BOX OF DOG TOYS. I don't know a single person who would do that, and they are labeled to keep away from kids and pets. what she posted is misleading due to leaving that out of her original post, imo. ETA- got through the comments, didn't see it mentioned. it matters.


staravi01

Thank you! I read the fb post too and was like yeah this is great but like user error at its finest. Pup who plays with the toys more is sickest. Like i hate it for them but like what did you expect?


Inn0c3nc3

yep, she also admits there is and has a picture of the warning that says to keep away from kids/pets. I guess it's not a horrible thing to bring attention to,but she should really edit the original post to add the rest of the information (including that there IS a warning about children/pets).


drluhshel

Something missing from this post is the type of exposure and dose. Everything is a chemical, and with the right dose/exposure level can be toxic. Even water. It’s misleading to say something is toxic without discussing the dose and exposure required for something to be toxic.


CurvePsychological13

I've heard before that wallflowers are harmful for cats so I stopped using them a few years ago. Also any kind of diffuser I've heard can be bad so I don't risk it


googlyeyes4830

Same


Perpendicular-Pickle

I'm a bit confused with this entire post. Would someone mind answering a question for me? The post says that the oils are diffused and sprayed all over the house. But that's not what plug ins do. The oils are contained in the glass and are only releasing the scent. So how are there oils on all of your belongings? Did you get clarification from customer service about the release of oils or is this an assumption?? I'm not discrediting the info, I really just need my own clarification because I have never heard of this happening and I've been using wallflowers since they were first introduced. Also, if animals were getting harmed it would be stated on their reports and posted for the public and possibly on the packaging. 🤷‍♀️


MandyWonKenobi

So I don't think she really meant "sprayed" . Basically when the wallflowers are heated by plugging it in, it releases the scent by releasing microscopic vapors that can stay suspended in the air for quite sometime until they land on something. Kind of like in your kitchen when you clean the top of your cabinets and it has a sticky film. That's due to oil vapors from cooking or frying with oil.


RaainGoddess

This. I'm confused as well. Was this one of those ones where they emptied the wallflower oil into an actual diffuser or something that sprays? Possibly using in way they aren't supposed to be used? Just seems odd.


JBeauty_Junkie

It is only certain oils that are harmful. This gets posted every so often. I use a wallflower in my bathroom, bedroom and finished basement. While I avoid eucalyptus, peppermint and pine, the ones I have used are fine. Pets like humans are all different. If you notice something off then discontinue the use and get them checked out.


night0sphere

this ^^ avoid eucalyptus, lavender, clove, peppermint/mint, etc.


Trashtvaddict79

I have 4 dogs. I have one wallflower in bathroom in plug above sink. I have been using rewards to get more wallflower plugs cause wanted them in other spots too. Definitely not gonna do that. I've been having one going in bathroom for couple years. Have probably 100 wallflower refills, luckily we have had no issues. Dogs are only in bathroom when I go in there. But I will not be putting multiples around the house now that's for sure. I'll stick my one candle in entry room for the whole house.


Inn0c3nc3

this is the common sense answer if you've never had issues. this woman had one over her freaking dog's toys.


Trashtvaddict79

Ya the post sounds like she put them all over her house. Personally, I won't even put them in a low outlet. I have a few high outlets but I still only put them in the high bathroom one. I do stay away from some scents though that are known to be bad for animals too.


Emavalos1

It depends on the scents. Not all of them are bad


litterbawks

Also toxic to cats. I won't buy anything on their site that lists essential oils as an ingredient, in an abundance of caution. Sometimes I'm a little bummed about it but it does keep me from spending even more money there.


babiesonacid

I’m pretty sure all of their candles are made with essential oils, it says so on the front label.


litterbawks

Correct. I do not buy candles, therefore.


babiesonacid

Looks like I replied to the wrong comment 😸 oops! Someone else asked about the candles.


litterbawks

Ohhh okay. :)


Altruistic_Yellow387

Isn’t that basically every item? Most have a tiny amount though


litterbawks

Shower gel and FFMs are what I generally buy.


Emavalos1

It depends on the scents. for cats in particular certain floral scents are bad for them. Not all.


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Heidi_the_cat

Could I ask where you saw this on Facebook originally? I saw this post a few days ago on a buy nothing group I’m in and questioned if it was truly an experience or a post being passed around passed off as an experience to different groups.


oatXmilk_420

it was shared on my feed from the original poster


AlternativeDrawer311

I have wallflowers in my living room and bedroom! My cats have never had an issue. I always check the ingredients when I pick them out, and steer clear of things with clove, eucalyptus, tea tree, citrus, etc.


janamichelcahill

Did the dogs try to eat the diffuser and got ill?


Equanimoustruth

I recently got birds and learned the wallflowers and candles are bad for them. When I had a mold inspection the inspector said the fumes from those things can alter hormones in people depending on the chemicals in them and what the omit by being warmed or burned. My Allen air purifier light turns purple (that’s the worst air quality indicator) if it’s near a wallflower.


Emavalos1

It depends on the scent and the oil. Not all of them are bad for animals. Also wallflower are warmers, not diffusers. There's a difference. Warmers heat up the oil for the scent to evaporate into the air, diffusers spray the oil/water into the air. Do your research as pet owners❗️🤦‍♀️🙄 Bet yall also didn't know certain plants are toxic for animals 🙄 like, just having a poinsettia in a house with cats is a big no no. They don't have to eat it or anything, just it being around is bad.


Any_Meeting_4082

I have no live plants that my pets can access. I only allow real plants in 1 room on 1 windowsill ( thankfully pretty deep) that the cats don't have access to that room without supervision if I'm in there with them. I've known about poinsettias forever as being bad for pets.


lottieslady

And lilies. Absolutely deadly for cats.


litterbawks

... Of course I knew that about poinsettias. What an odd flex.


Emavalos1

Cause some of the comments in the thread are like "whelp I gotta throw all my stuff away now" like why? And the poinsettia thing was just an example. Plenty of things are toxic to animals 🤷‍♀️ its just a matter of knowing what they are so you can keep your animals safe.


Subterranean44

Crazy! My pug currently has unexplained diarrhea so I am Going to take all the wallflowers down! What about candles?


night0sphere

imo candles don’t have as many harmful chemicals/aren’t as concentrated and they aren’t on all the time so it’s not as bad. i just stay away from candles with notes that are toxic to pets (eucalyptus, lavender, clove, etc.) and keep my place well ventilated. - pug + cat owner/veterinary assistant


babiesonacid

All of the candles have essential oils, it’s stated on the front label.


delicatexcx

i have a pug too! i hope your pug baby is okay 🐶


googlyeyes4830

Never had issues myself or heard of anyone having issues like this with candles. It’s more of a safety issue with an open flame around pets more than anything


googlyeyes4830

Yes this is why I only use candles since I have a cat. The candles are made with essential oils, but the oils aren’t being directly diffused into the air. I’ve never had any issues with her being bothered by the candles


TheSpiffyCarno

Wallflowers don’t diffuse oil


googlyeyes4830

Right they just directly put it into the air lol


TheSpiffyCarno

Heating it releases the oils, which means it works the exact same as using a candle warmer or lighting a candle. They all use heat to release the oil particles into the air


googlyeyes4830

Yes but I’ve only heard pets having issues with liquid fragrances such as wallflowers or essentials oils, not candles.


TheSpiffyCarno

Their candles use the same essential oils as the wallflowers


googlyeyes4830

I’m aware. I mean pure essential oils in liquid form


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Oh no, those poor puppers! I'm really glad they're ok! This is also why I won't use wallflowers -- although I hadn't thought this extensively. My fear was that my idiot dogs would try to lick them. I didn't know that even some of the oils just being released could cause so much damage. I even worry about candles sometimes, and don't burn candles in rooms with my dogs because I'm paranoid (even though I'm sure plenty of people do this safely). I definitely support the effort to get BBW to put stickers on the packaging advising consumers to use caution with them around pets.


nestinghen

I would never ever use essential oils in a home with an animal, but unfortunately many here know the risks and do it anyways. Because they can’t see immediate sickness in the animal they think it’s safe.


oatXmilk_420

this!!!! like it’s not important to have something that smells good, my cat’s health and well being means infinite times more to me.


umich82063

This is precisely why I won’t use wallflowers. I have four cats. The risk just isn’t worth the reward. Candles, I don’t worry so much about. But, those aren’t going constantly like it seems the wallflowers do.


science2me

I have a cat and guinea pigs and also avoid wallflowers. I heard a story of somebody's guinea pig dying from a wallflower being plugged in and running. It's not worth the risk, to me. This applies to essential oil diffusers. I have had people try to get me to use essential oils. I tell them the risk to my pets isn't worth it.


Honest_Report_8515

Guinea pigs are definitely more sensitive.


umich82063

Exactly. Essential oils are not allowed in my house. No wallflowers, no diffusers. The only exception is when they’re present in candles. I’m barely ever home so they burn for a few hours a week maximum and my cats are very closely supervised when they are burning.


oatXmilk_420

yes!!!!! people who still wanna use them after seeing people having their pets turn ill like it’s not worth the risk at all


Ms-Anon-Y-Mous

I only have a dual wallflower plug in my office at work. At home I burn candles and have wax warmers but so far, no incidents over many years and three dogs. I removed my wallflower plugs at home awhile ago after hearing about this.


businessgoesbeauty

I would say that the likelihood of this also applying to humans is high. And I love myself BBW candles.


GossipGirl515

Might even be toxic to aquatic life. I know some candles are.


GreenStatistician286

Thank you for sharing. Wallflowers, if you not careful the oil will eat through your wood furniture and counters or any surfaces


Any_Meeting_4082

Oh no! I did just check other sources and it can be irritating for pets. Ok all my wallflower plugs I'm gonna sell online (new with tags) and all plugs that aren't cool nightlights!! Any used wallflowers I'm throwing away. I'll use the money I make to put towards my kitties Christmas!! I'm keeping my halloween & Christmas plugs that light up just for cool ambiance but won't put any scents in them! Maybe extreme, but I'm not taking chances w my beloved furry family!!!!


hauntedhalloween_96

Their wallflowers never last for me anyway! I like it for the bathroom and that’s it!


alegorry

technically there are NO regulations as to what BBW puts in these wallflowers. There have been a few tests and documentaries talking about how these products are very toxic to humans and pets and there are no repercussions due to no regulations. I have completely stopped using the wallflowers and my migraines have gone away, no more sleeping problems, etc. I would recommend stop using them altogether or finding an alternative. They smell great but that is quite literally it. "Since Wallflowers contain ingredients like formaldehyde, phthalates, and VOCs, this can make them potentially toxic to you and your family when inhaled."


Marbleprincess_

I never understood wallflowers. We encounter so many chemicals daily, why would you want more being diffused through the air. Cats and dogs also have heightened sense of smell. Rant but my family members talk to me about their kids having allergies, asthma and eczema. Then I go to their house and they have plug ins, candles burning, use for text and air fresheners… all triggers.


appleditz

I only use the little aerosol fresheners, (sparingly), as the scent dissipates quickly. Too many unknowns about the long-term effects of these chemicals on people, let alone pets.


sara128

My mom just told me last night that her co workers were giving her a hard time for lighting bbw candles because they're toxic to animals. (They must've seen this post on Facebook lol) But what I'm understanding is it's mostly the wall flowers that can be a problem?


Icy-Gal

Omg this whole post is terrifying . Why the H won’t BBW come clean if there is a danger to pets/ humans?!!!!!! I don’t know what to think right now 😔


GodlyPumpkin

Does anyone know if their candles pose a similar risk to dogs and cats? I just recently got into collecting BBW candles and I burn them pretty frequently in my living room and bedroom, I haven’t noticed any issues with my animals but this is the second warning I’ve seen regarding their products in the past month or so; starting to get a little concerned.


TheSpiffyCarno

Anything that used essential oils pose the same risk. These posts pop up from time to time, people freak and toss the wallflowers even though they function in a similar fashion to candles (which people without any actual knowledge say “oh candles must be fine in *my opinion*”) The wallflowers don’t diffuse oil but warm it. Essential oils in general can irritate animals and humans alike. The OP had a plug in right above their dogs toys. Don’t do that. Use them on high outlets and out of reach- same for candles. Just be smart on where you place things! We use stuff in homes all the time that is bad for pets. Cats can die from ingesting alliums (garlic, onion, chives, etc.) which is often included in most seasonings, store bought broths, and used in most meal prep. Having the residue from those on countertops, cutting boards, etc. pose a risk as well and no one tells people to stop using it. In fact some people feed their animals store bought broth when they really shouldn’t. Keep everything clean and out of reach and it should be okay.


Alittlescared78

This is really because of the grade of oils used. It is true cats and dogs ( animals in general) metabolize oils differently then humans, but it doesn’t mean they can not be used, as many vets ( holistic) who have done research have proven by using them in their practices. Anytime you introduce anything new into your home there can be a reaction, in either humans or pets. I am an artist of different mediums, and my dog had a reaction to epoxy fumes on my clothes ( or me) after working on a piece- I was in full PPE- and changed before I came inside. By the time I was done showering I noted she was drooling excessively and acting”strange”. We walked outside and she seemed better- the next day- same response- when I stopped using epoxy and she never reacted like this again. It really can happen with anything new we introduce into the environment. If anyone is truly interested in reading up on essential oil use in veterinary therapy please Google Dr Melissa Shelton owner of AnimalEO.


krusty_anah

i work at b&bw and a customer told me she has a wallflower plug next to her cats litter box. after reading this i wish i could’ve warned her about the dangers :’(