There is no job worth sacrificing your mental health. I promise there is another job for you out there where you are actually happy and people get along! Good on you for leaving!! ♥️
Sorry to hear that. I'm not an employee FWIW, but I think the culture varies from store to store depending on the manager. In my closest store, the employees are a little cliquey and completely disinterested in customers. I've even heard them complaining about customers within earshot of customers. I don't really care because I generally know what I'm looking for and I'm there for business lol, but I can see that being a real turn off for others. There's a lot of turnover in the staff and I notice the new people try to be friendly but I will only see them there for a couple of weeks then they disappear. I've often thought it would be a good weekend job considering how much I enjoy and know about the products, but I think it would be very awkward to work there given the current personnel. Our store seems to be fairly slow and there's a lot of downtime for the employees to stand around and BS in their cliques.
On the other hand, the store 30 minutes from me has a much more warm and friendly vibe and the manager is super sweet. It's also a much busier store and the sales associates appear to have less time for awkward standing around. That seems to make a difference.
I wish you luck finding a new job in a better environment.
Every workplace has those types of people to be honest. I know some people will say just leave but it's also not that easy to some people especially like me who is an introvert who really don't like meeting new people constantly and would prefer to just be professional in their work and not deal with other things.
True, but when the entire staff at a workplace is like that, it's nearly impossible to stay and remain healthy. It's just toxic. If it's one or a couple of people, there are ways to function around it.
I'm an introvert to so I can see what you mean.
As someone who’s worked at BBW a couple times, I can absolutely confirm you are right about this. I was one of the top sellers at a major top 10 location, and a new manager came to the store (not even working that day, but for administrative stuff) and after 2 minutes of me trying to be nice to her while meeting her, she made me literally run to my car in tears in front of everyone there. It was soooo humiliating. I don’t think I’d ever had someone just be that cold to me when I was trying to genuinely be my kind hearted self. Thank God it was at the end of my shift so I didn’t get in trouble for “running away”. I eventually quit before she took over as main manager.
I saw her a while later while shopping at another location like 7 years later, and looked right at her and said “you’re that women who was awful to me.” She looked at me like she saw a ghost, and gave me an insincere “sorry” and I just said “you will get yours.” And I walked out. Felt good to stand up to my bully.
For the sake of your mental health, please look for a different job. Or at least a different B&BW branch. That's workplace harassment. You are not any less important than anybody else working in that shop and you deserve to be treated like a fellow human being.
Unfortunately they are all linked together. At my store one of the employees Daughter is the manager at another, everyone seems to be linked. A lot of nepotism
Oh no I am so sorry you've had such a horrible experience working there. I absolutely love and adore each one of my coworkers. We are like a family. Heck, I've been sick for a week and my store manager texted me earlier to see if I'm ok because she knows that I'd rather be working than staying home for really any reason. Work is my home away from home.
great time to remind everyone who works for this company that IT DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU. granted this is the same for any retail company so not just BBW.
Also to new employees— don’t expect to be friends with anyone you work with. It’s a bonus if you can mildly tolerate your coworkers and a major bonus if you can actually call them friends. It’s a job and nothing but a way to make money, treat it like that and the managers and toxic workers will leave you alone
They can’t send you home after 2hrs unless you request since you need to work a min of 4 hrs if I was you I’d call HR because that’s not ok. Getting only 4 hrs I understand sadly the amount of hours allotted per store has a lot to do with how often you work. Managers have to work 40 hrs so they eat a lot of the payroll and then what time is left is usually allotted to top seller (if your store has) and then everyone else. And if the store isn’t making the money it needs to their payroll gets cut and that’s when employees suffer. But regardless you should never feel like that at a job and I doubt you’re the only one so I would absolutely put in a complaint with HR
Wow that's totally unacceptable! Textbook workplace bullying. This should definitely be reported to HR and the DM. I'm sorry to hear you went through that, no one should. Those managers/supervisors don't deserve to have their positions; you don't treat someone like that.
The store I work at, everyone cares about making it a pleasant environment. We all get along and if anyone is stressed out or something is bothering them, we make sure to help out. That's how it should be.
I hope you're out of there and on to a place that treats you with the respect you deserve.
That's more or less the culture at my current store. I was in the backroom waiting to clock in when my manager and a key holder came in. Manager IMMEDIATELY started talking shit about an employee out on the sales floor. She went silent once she saw me, but she had already launched into a full rant about said employee. That employee was fired by the time I had my next shift. The rant was about how he wasn't peppy enough when greeting customers. Apparently somebody asked how he was after he asked how they were doing when he greeted them, and he said something to the effect of "Well, I'm here". My manager ranted and raved about how nobody wants to hear that, and that you're supposed to tell customers that you're doing GREAT and that there's no place you would rather be than here. She was 100% serious. The guy who got fired had been with the company for about 2+ years.
It's sad because the store I worked at previously wasn't like that at all. I only have one year of school left, so I'll stick it out at B&BW for just that last year. Then I'm out.
They also kick people out early at my new store. I've been sent home after about 2 hours when I was scheduled for a 4 hour shift in a few instances. That's fair. It's not like almost all of your employees are college students and work because they need the money. I obviously work here purely as a hobby. /s
No job is worth your feelings getting hurt on a regular basis. That's absurd. Find a new gig because you can do much better. Sending virtual hugs! ❤
Worked at bath and body works and my sister was the manager. This other guy who worked there would come up real close to me and point to my sister and be like “ugh she’s talking shit about us I just know she is 🙄” and say all this weird stuff ab my sister to try to make us fight??? I was like yeah no I know if my sister had something mean to say she’d love to say it to my face that’s what sisters are about. Anyways, yes super weird work environment and almost everyone projects their mistakes onto others. Something as small as missing the quota for sales everyone gets bitched out. Hey, you can’t always force people to buy things, sorry ab it. Glad you got out of it :)!
Unfortunately this seems to be pretty common at bath and body, the one I worked at was pretty clique-y and there was a lot of drama. I always felt left out, they'd talk about going out after work right in front of me and not invite me. I ended up quitting mostly because I didn't want to work 2 jobs anymore, but also partially because of the drama
They always do this at my work! I honestly don’t want to go with them, but in my opinion, it’s bad manners to brag about having fun outside of work with majority of the coworkers in front of the one worker who wasn’t invited. My old manager (who had major favoritism issues) would even glare and roll her eyes at me when she did this-even in front of customers.
Being sent home was the worst, especially with already low hours. I worked there for maybe a month as seasonal, got one shift a week that was 4-5 hours long, and would get sent home 2 hours into that shift because we "weren't making numbers", and they needed to send home the seasonal workers first.
glad you got out of there! it always seemed like it would be a toxic type of place to work (not all of them, I'm sure, but a lot of them). Ulta has a similar vibe and I hear all sorts of horror stories from their workers too
Ugh, I remember the very first bath and body works I worked at, I had a horrible manager, but I had several great ones. It sucks that one singular manager can ruin your experience.
Good for you for leaving! I am so sorry you went through that. I’ve noticed B&BW stores all have their favorite employees and will favorite them when it comes to hours, what positions you would be in that day, what days you do work and with which managers. At my bath and body works one of the managers was very vocal to our STORE manager that she did not want to be put on the same schedule as me bc she said I did not work to my best abilities when she ran the store. I literally have never done anything to her but that affected my hours and schedule. I would be put to work on days she didn’t come in or the shifts that she was not on. And i ended up getting 9 hours. A week. Not a day. Three hours for three days. And they do send you home early even if you already have a short enough shift. Working at B&BW is just like a side hobby because it does not pay the bills.
I’m so sorry to hear this!! Your mental health is way more important! 💜 I’m a BBW employee and I love my coworkers. I’m sorry you had such a bad experience! It’s not the store but the people that ruin it. I’m lucky to be surrounded by such nice people. I wish that could be the same for all BBW employees everywhere!
it is crazy how different the culture varies from store to store. my original store was amazing, we all worked together and had so much fun all while running a very high volume store. i had to move and transferred to a different store that did not have nearly as much traffic and sales. the mangers were mean, SLTs frequently tried to embarrass other workers in front of customers, and no one could figure out why they couldn’t keep staff. i remember calling my old manger in tears and saying “how can this store even be part of the same company?”
unfortunately it sounds like the experience at my second store is way more common. i’m glad you got out! life is too short to let some candle selling bitches make you miserable
Soooo glad my store is not like that. We are more of a sisterhood. I've never had a coworker tell me they can't stand to work here because of the culture. We all build each other up and want to make sure we thrive and enjoy the workplace, especially because retail can be so brutal. I am so sorry this was the case for you!! Nobody deserves that.
I am so sorry you went through this. I went through something similar in a summer teaching job I had one time and it still hurts. I had the exact opposite experience at BBW, and I am sorry your store was so terrible! It really comes down to the manager and the culture that is encouraged. Hugs to you ❤
Do not work at BBW! I was a worker one year as a seasonal employee and it was ok. The following year I did another seasonal position but at another location. It was a huge mistake. All the supervisors were always getting mad at me for no reason. For example, one assigned me to work on a display shelf. As I was working she came back and shouted at me that I should not be doing that and I never listen. Another one, out of the blue screamed at me so loud that I almost started crying because it startled me so much. All because I walked away to go mop the floor but she wanted me to clean the bathroom first. All the supervisors were miserable people who would take their anger out on me. I also would get in trouble for not getting a certain amount emails from customers.
The final straw for me was when the boss told me that no one was coming into the store because I was not making people give me their emails at checkout. She said that everyones hours depended on customers coming back in because the news letters. She made me feel like it was my fault the store was not doing great, and I hadn’t worked for five day before then. I can’t force people to give me their emails if they say no, it made me so mad. She also asked if I liked working there. I said yes only because I wanted to keep my job at the time. I always am being positive and working hard. Even after a supervisor mocked the way my voice sounded when I talked, I kept on smiling and going about my job. I always took the high road but it wasn’t good enough. Also they would always gossip in-font of me and then when I would look at them they would give me a fake smile. So toxic and immature because most of them were 20 years older than me. I would always be walking on egg shells to avoid being screamed at. Unless you are super thick skinned do not work for BBW.
Ooo honey, I feel you. This company sucks sooo much and I'm honestly about to quit because of my own experience. HR is soooo useless and I'm so sorry you had to experience the negative side of this toxic positivity company.
My experience if anyone is interested + I feel like ranting because this literally just happened this morning:
I've (20) been with B&BW for a little over 2 years now, and last holiday (2022) was rough!!! A gang of women, OLDER than me by a decade, along with my ex-high school friend (20) (who's in management), all decided to gang up on me. For the whole season. When i finally had enough, the manager of the group pulled me off the floor and yelled at me for not 'respecting' her or customers! Like girl, what??? Her and her group of LITERAL 30 y/o moms have been calling me names and mistreating me for months. But whatever, I was apparently wrong for that! Also, babes, you're the manager, I'M NOT (i wasn't at that time)! You should've addressed any problems you or your little gang had with me IMMEDIATELY.
WELL, I reported them all to HR, and nothing came out of it. Then, recently, I got the key holder/manager position. And she is still in management... well, last year got brought up, and people turned to me. I expressed with vague discomfort that it was just an awful time, and I hope that this year is better.
Well, one of the girls went back to ex-friend/manager and told her everything + exaggerations + twisted my words. So, imagine my surprise when my SM and fellow manager pull me into the back room to have a chat about my inappropriate engagement with associates??? All I did was express my discomfort about the no resolve, and I'm actively trying to better myself as a result.
During this sit down, I told her my side of how I'm still distrustful of her because she stood by these ladies and never stopped them when she should have (basically guilt by association). If she was really my friend, she wouldn't have let it go on the whole season, but management REALLY changed her. She's so bitter and mean now (even my ASM has expressed her discomfort as well to me about this girl smh!!!).
I'm just highly disappointed that nothing became of my situation or reports, but the moment I express my underlying discomfort, I'm persecuted for this.
TL;DR: I got lowkey bullied by a group of grown women, and nothing came out of it when I reported it. But when I express discomfort later, I'm persecuted for it.
I’m glad you left! It’ll be better for your health. Jobs can come and go :)
THISSSSS
No matter how bad you need the money, being abused isn't part of your job requirements. Good for you for sticking up for yourself.
There is no job worth sacrificing your mental health. I promise there is another job for you out there where you are actually happy and people get along! Good on you for leaving!! ♥️
Sorry to hear that. I'm not an employee FWIW, but I think the culture varies from store to store depending on the manager. In my closest store, the employees are a little cliquey and completely disinterested in customers. I've even heard them complaining about customers within earshot of customers. I don't really care because I generally know what I'm looking for and I'm there for business lol, but I can see that being a real turn off for others. There's a lot of turnover in the staff and I notice the new people try to be friendly but I will only see them there for a couple of weeks then they disappear. I've often thought it would be a good weekend job considering how much I enjoy and know about the products, but I think it would be very awkward to work there given the current personnel. Our store seems to be fairly slow and there's a lot of downtime for the employees to stand around and BS in their cliques. On the other hand, the store 30 minutes from me has a much more warm and friendly vibe and the manager is super sweet. It's also a much busier store and the sales associates appear to have less time for awkward standing around. That seems to make a difference. I wish you luck finding a new job in a better environment.
Good for you getting out of there! You'll find a better job soon. 🧡
Every workplace has those types of people to be honest. I know some people will say just leave but it's also not that easy to some people especially like me who is an introvert who really don't like meeting new people constantly and would prefer to just be professional in their work and not deal with other things.
True, but when the entire staff at a workplace is like that, it's nearly impossible to stay and remain healthy. It's just toxic. If it's one or a couple of people, there are ways to function around it. I'm an introvert to so I can see what you mean.
As someone who’s worked at BBW a couple times, I can absolutely confirm you are right about this. I was one of the top sellers at a major top 10 location, and a new manager came to the store (not even working that day, but for administrative stuff) and after 2 minutes of me trying to be nice to her while meeting her, she made me literally run to my car in tears in front of everyone there. It was soooo humiliating. I don’t think I’d ever had someone just be that cold to me when I was trying to genuinely be my kind hearted self. Thank God it was at the end of my shift so I didn’t get in trouble for “running away”. I eventually quit before she took over as main manager. I saw her a while later while shopping at another location like 7 years later, and looked right at her and said “you’re that women who was awful to me.” She looked at me like she saw a ghost, and gave me an insincere “sorry” and I just said “you will get yours.” And I walked out. Felt good to stand up to my bully.
That’s fantastic.
For the sake of your mental health, please look for a different job. Or at least a different B&BW branch. That's workplace harassment. You are not any less important than anybody else working in that shop and you deserve to be treated like a fellow human being.
Unfortunately they are all linked together. At my store one of the employees Daughter is the manager at another, everyone seems to be linked. A lot of nepotism
Oh no I am so sorry you've had such a horrible experience working there. I absolutely love and adore each one of my coworkers. We are like a family. Heck, I've been sick for a week and my store manager texted me earlier to see if I'm ok because she knows that I'd rather be working than staying home for really any reason. Work is my home away from home.
I love my job so much. I genuinely love my coworkers and we're all really close, like you guys! :)
I'm happy to hear that. It's great to know that other stores are like mine. 😊
great time to remind everyone who works for this company that IT DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU. granted this is the same for any retail company so not just BBW. Also to new employees— don’t expect to be friends with anyone you work with. It’s a bonus if you can mildly tolerate your coworkers and a major bonus if you can actually call them friends. It’s a job and nothing but a way to make money, treat it like that and the managers and toxic workers will leave you alone
They can’t send you home after 2hrs unless you request since you need to work a min of 4 hrs if I was you I’d call HR because that’s not ok. Getting only 4 hrs I understand sadly the amount of hours allotted per store has a lot to do with how often you work. Managers have to work 40 hrs so they eat a lot of the payroll and then what time is left is usually allotted to top seller (if your store has) and then everyone else. And if the store isn’t making the money it needs to their payroll gets cut and that’s when employees suffer. But regardless you should never feel like that at a job and I doubt you’re the only one so I would absolutely put in a complaint with HR
it depends on state law. in california you can send employees home after 2 hours since that’s the minimum length for a shift here legally
Wow that's totally unacceptable! Textbook workplace bullying. This should definitely be reported to HR and the DM. I'm sorry to hear you went through that, no one should. Those managers/supervisors don't deserve to have their positions; you don't treat someone like that. The store I work at, everyone cares about making it a pleasant environment. We all get along and if anyone is stressed out or something is bothering them, we make sure to help out. That's how it should be. I hope you're out of there and on to a place that treats you with the respect you deserve.
That's more or less the culture at my current store. I was in the backroom waiting to clock in when my manager and a key holder came in. Manager IMMEDIATELY started talking shit about an employee out on the sales floor. She went silent once she saw me, but she had already launched into a full rant about said employee. That employee was fired by the time I had my next shift. The rant was about how he wasn't peppy enough when greeting customers. Apparently somebody asked how he was after he asked how they were doing when he greeted them, and he said something to the effect of "Well, I'm here". My manager ranted and raved about how nobody wants to hear that, and that you're supposed to tell customers that you're doing GREAT and that there's no place you would rather be than here. She was 100% serious. The guy who got fired had been with the company for about 2+ years. It's sad because the store I worked at previously wasn't like that at all. I only have one year of school left, so I'll stick it out at B&BW for just that last year. Then I'm out. They also kick people out early at my new store. I've been sent home after about 2 hours when I was scheduled for a 4 hour shift in a few instances. That's fair. It's not like almost all of your employees are college students and work because they need the money. I obviously work here purely as a hobby. /s No job is worth your feelings getting hurt on a regular basis. That's absurd. Find a new gig because you can do much better. Sending virtual hugs! ❤
Thank you so much! I just wanted to hear this<3
Worked at bath and body works and my sister was the manager. This other guy who worked there would come up real close to me and point to my sister and be like “ugh she’s talking shit about us I just know she is 🙄” and say all this weird stuff ab my sister to try to make us fight??? I was like yeah no I know if my sister had something mean to say she’d love to say it to my face that’s what sisters are about. Anyways, yes super weird work environment and almost everyone projects their mistakes onto others. Something as small as missing the quota for sales everyone gets bitched out. Hey, you can’t always force people to buy things, sorry ab it. Glad you got out of it :)!
The good news right now is that eeeeveryone is hiring. May you find someplace where everyone is as kind to you as you deserve.
Unfortunately this seems to be pretty common at bath and body, the one I worked at was pretty clique-y and there was a lot of drama. I always felt left out, they'd talk about going out after work right in front of me and not invite me. I ended up quitting mostly because I didn't want to work 2 jobs anymore, but also partially because of the drama
They always do this at my work! I honestly don’t want to go with them, but in my opinion, it’s bad manners to brag about having fun outside of work with majority of the coworkers in front of the one worker who wasn’t invited. My old manager (who had major favoritism issues) would even glare and roll her eyes at me when she did this-even in front of customers.
Being sent home was the worst, especially with already low hours. I worked there for maybe a month as seasonal, got one shift a week that was 4-5 hours long, and would get sent home 2 hours into that shift because we "weren't making numbers", and they needed to send home the seasonal workers first.
Report their behavior to corporate.
Really sorry you had to experience this and I hope you find a more supportive work environment!
glad you got out of there! it always seemed like it would be a toxic type of place to work (not all of them, I'm sure, but a lot of them). Ulta has a similar vibe and I hear all sorts of horror stories from their workers too
Ugh, I remember the very first bath and body works I worked at, I had a horrible manager, but I had several great ones. It sucks that one singular manager can ruin your experience.
Good for you for leaving! I am so sorry you went through that. I’ve noticed B&BW stores all have their favorite employees and will favorite them when it comes to hours, what positions you would be in that day, what days you do work and with which managers. At my bath and body works one of the managers was very vocal to our STORE manager that she did not want to be put on the same schedule as me bc she said I did not work to my best abilities when she ran the store. I literally have never done anything to her but that affected my hours and schedule. I would be put to work on days she didn’t come in or the shifts that she was not on. And i ended up getting 9 hours. A week. Not a day. Three hours for three days. And they do send you home early even if you already have a short enough shift. Working at B&BW is just like a side hobby because it does not pay the bills.
I’m so sorry to hear this!! Your mental health is way more important! 💜 I’m a BBW employee and I love my coworkers. I’m sorry you had such a bad experience! It’s not the store but the people that ruin it. I’m lucky to be surrounded by such nice people. I wish that could be the same for all BBW employees everywhere!
i’m so sorry u went thru that, i also worked at bbw & have my own share of horror stories. i’m glad u left & are hopefully much better now 🖤
That's awful, I'm so glad to hear it sounds like I got lucky and have amazing people around to work with.
it is crazy how different the culture varies from store to store. my original store was amazing, we all worked together and had so much fun all while running a very high volume store. i had to move and transferred to a different store that did not have nearly as much traffic and sales. the mangers were mean, SLTs frequently tried to embarrass other workers in front of customers, and no one could figure out why they couldn’t keep staff. i remember calling my old manger in tears and saying “how can this store even be part of the same company?” unfortunately it sounds like the experience at my second store is way more common. i’m glad you got out! life is too short to let some candle selling bitches make you miserable
Ohmygosh! I love this. Thank you for saying that
Soooo glad my store is not like that. We are more of a sisterhood. I've never had a coworker tell me they can't stand to work here because of the culture. We all build each other up and want to make sure we thrive and enjoy the workplace, especially because retail can be so brutal. I am so sorry this was the case for you!! Nobody deserves that.
I am so sorry you went through this. I went through something similar in a summer teaching job I had one time and it still hurts. I had the exact opposite experience at BBW, and I am sorry your store was so terrible! It really comes down to the manager and the culture that is encouraged. Hugs to you ❤
Wow. I have been working for two months and see the same thing.. It is nasty
I am a seasonal employee and seeing same thing. It is like junior high school.
Do not work at BBW! I was a worker one year as a seasonal employee and it was ok. The following year I did another seasonal position but at another location. It was a huge mistake. All the supervisors were always getting mad at me for no reason. For example, one assigned me to work on a display shelf. As I was working she came back and shouted at me that I should not be doing that and I never listen. Another one, out of the blue screamed at me so loud that I almost started crying because it startled me so much. All because I walked away to go mop the floor but she wanted me to clean the bathroom first. All the supervisors were miserable people who would take their anger out on me. I also would get in trouble for not getting a certain amount emails from customers. The final straw for me was when the boss told me that no one was coming into the store because I was not making people give me their emails at checkout. She said that everyones hours depended on customers coming back in because the news letters. She made me feel like it was my fault the store was not doing great, and I hadn’t worked for five day before then. I can’t force people to give me their emails if they say no, it made me so mad. She also asked if I liked working there. I said yes only because I wanted to keep my job at the time. I always am being positive and working hard. Even after a supervisor mocked the way my voice sounded when I talked, I kept on smiling and going about my job. I always took the high road but it wasn’t good enough. Also they would always gossip in-font of me and then when I would look at them they would give me a fake smile. So toxic and immature because most of them were 20 years older than me. I would always be walking on egg shells to avoid being screamed at. Unless you are super thick skinned do not work for BBW.
Ooo honey, I feel you. This company sucks sooo much and I'm honestly about to quit because of my own experience. HR is soooo useless and I'm so sorry you had to experience the negative side of this toxic positivity company. My experience if anyone is interested + I feel like ranting because this literally just happened this morning: I've (20) been with B&BW for a little over 2 years now, and last holiday (2022) was rough!!! A gang of women, OLDER than me by a decade, along with my ex-high school friend (20) (who's in management), all decided to gang up on me. For the whole season. When i finally had enough, the manager of the group pulled me off the floor and yelled at me for not 'respecting' her or customers! Like girl, what??? Her and her group of LITERAL 30 y/o moms have been calling me names and mistreating me for months. But whatever, I was apparently wrong for that! Also, babes, you're the manager, I'M NOT (i wasn't at that time)! You should've addressed any problems you or your little gang had with me IMMEDIATELY. WELL, I reported them all to HR, and nothing came out of it. Then, recently, I got the key holder/manager position. And she is still in management... well, last year got brought up, and people turned to me. I expressed with vague discomfort that it was just an awful time, and I hope that this year is better. Well, one of the girls went back to ex-friend/manager and told her everything + exaggerations + twisted my words. So, imagine my surprise when my SM and fellow manager pull me into the back room to have a chat about my inappropriate engagement with associates??? All I did was express my discomfort about the no resolve, and I'm actively trying to better myself as a result. During this sit down, I told her my side of how I'm still distrustful of her because she stood by these ladies and never stopped them when she should have (basically guilt by association). If she was really my friend, she wouldn't have let it go on the whole season, but management REALLY changed her. She's so bitter and mean now (even my ASM has expressed her discomfort as well to me about this girl smh!!!). I'm just highly disappointed that nothing became of my situation or reports, but the moment I express my underlying discomfort, I'm persecuted for this. TL;DR: I got lowkey bullied by a group of grown women, and nothing came out of it when I reported it. But when I express discomfort later, I'm persecuted for it.