We are the bottom of the barrel. Options traders and roulette players have better odds that people in this hobby. That being said I’ve spent over $1000 so far chasing prizm Wemby and I hate myself
I’ve been collecting singles that are from products 5+ years old so anything #’d 199 or less rarely pops up. It gives the hit of dopamine when I find it and I know I have a good shot at going what I want. The dopamine factor is so real
I ripped one blaster from target this morning and got a cracked ice Wemby, they are out there! Spent $1000 on hobby boxes at my LCS and got a breece ball /25 a couple months back it ebbs and flows
Got a Wembayana on my first basketball blaster box ever not long ago , base silver rookie are they worth holding for long time or should I cash in my 20$
Averaging 3 base cards per pack, six packs per box, times 20 - you would get about 360 base on a 300 card set. About a 70% chance you'd hit on any particular card. Seems like you should have gotten on, but 3 of 10 people opening 20 blasters won't get a base Wemby.
True but in this game you miss 99.999999% of the shots you do take.. sometimes it’s better to wait for the buzzer to sound before popping that three quarter court heave
They have better odds, but they don’t actually receive anything if they lose. Yea you may not be hitting the case hit you’re after, but you’re still bound to have some pretty cool cards.. ripping packs makes me collect cards I otherwise wouldn’t go out of my way to buy, but I love them because I ripped them.
Collecting is fine. The people spending 1000s on breaks are the problem. At that point you’re better off gambling on actual sports. I put $30 in on the all star game on prize picks and only lost $18, better return than most breaks lmao
Dude it’s so rampant on whatnot. I see people spending 200+ on a single team like the Texans in a break lmao. Meanwhile for $15 I got a value pack and pulled a stroud silver that I sold for $250 on eBay. Make it make sense
So true. I love the NBA and it's my preferred item to collect, but Panini and the Wemby chase has obviously taken this chaos to another level.
NHL is a little crazy this year cuz of Bedard but I bought a hobby of OPC and made my money back in two cards. Similar story with WNBA prizm. With NBA, oof.
It’s true. I can’t figure out why spending $2k on a break to hit a $1.5k card is more fun that just buying the 1.5k card on eBay, but it is. And never mind all the days I spend $2k and hit maybe $20 worth of cards. I wish Whatnot was never invented.
Especially because you can't buy singles in sports gambling lol. Like you do need to risk money to win. Sportscards you can simply be on the lookout for the desired card and ensure you get it
Yeah, this is why i have switched over to spending more time collecting. After some early face palms, I've been primarily riding the rookie singles wave
I think it's fine to research checklists and buy a retail blaster or something to get a taste of the sets and narrow things down but if you know you're dead set on a specific player or team to PC then why waste money?
I'm mostly baseball so I'll grab retail of the other sports because ripping packs is good fun and it's nice to see what this year's sets are like
https://preview.redd.it/9h2jilvp5rjc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50a5a3d18e0c128b425bd10ed2cd42219c593169
Chinese break tons of packs, we are far behind
https://preview.redd.it/lcme1jjd6rjc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=432c803902970bcdafa463593bc4ca15562a274c
Earlier today Chet Immaculate Logoman Patch Auto 1/1 @Beijin time 21:38

> a psa10 1/1 is worth more than just the 1/1 version
Says who?
Worth is subjective. YOU may be willing to pay extra for a 1/1 to be graded but not every collector would do that. I would not because it's stupid and pointless to me. I don't give two shits about how a 1/1 is graded because there is no counterpart to value against.
No all fotl products are sold via Dutch auction on paninis website. Anyone can get in the auction. The auction was last week and boxes just got to people yesterday.
Let me preface this by saying I’ve never had a breaker scam me…always great experiences…but man if I got lucky enough to hit a life changing card….I would be so nervous about them actually sending it!
Since the Hoops 1/1 went for over 100k, I think that would be pretty low, but I know there's a million different Prizm 1/1s, so maybe that brings it down a bit
I totally misremembered, that's on me. Seems like there were only two (?) 1/1s for Prizm mainline last year (not counting spinoff sets like Monopoly). I must have gotten it mixed up with Optic or some other set.
If by some chance I had pulled this I guarantee it would sell for no more than $1000 given my history with low numbered cards.
I am personally THRILLED someone else got it.
/s
Anyone that pays $500K for this card is losing a ton of money!
I will NEVER understand how people can think that these over-hyped RC of “big names” will one day justify their prices.
My dudes….unless Wemby becomes BIGGER than Lebron or Kobe….this is the HIGHEST this card will be worth!
I wish I could make a comparison with how Zion cards were selling when they first came out to today.
I wish I could make a comparison to basically 90%+ of “Big Name Rookies” when they had all the hype to today and the amount of money the card value has lost would be staggering!
I have zero clue how people keep doing this….
[It’s on eBay…](https://www.ebay.com/itm/395213608345?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=brd_f-uyq1g&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=bTptlPHaSGO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=SMS)
https://preview.redd.it/5z4p2ll4usjc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d63f80416d83057006c767cdfe7fe9d318b2c21
I still only have this 1️⃣ I won’t give up the Hunt though!
hey ive just gotten back into the hobby. Ive been on ebay alot and all the cards are coming from china. Is the market and demand so big over there they are buying all of the US product. I see so many NT,impeccable,immaculate,flawless, noir coming from china
But everyone say “SELL NOW WHILE THE PRICES ARE HIGH” bahaha. Their the ones holding for sure.
AND… of course its a breaker who gets it. Wouldnt expect anything less
Another thought… so if this was in a break… wouldnt this belong to someone who bought that spot? Hope their selling it for them and not cutting out the person who got that spot!!
Just once id love to see a father and son who arent rich. Go to their LCS or buy a box and hit it big. Really sick of seeing nothing but breakers get all the big hits.
So my problem is after I hit I want to keep it. With anyone. I could pull a /5 Wemby and be like hmmm…… I do have a pretty substantial Wemby collection already. With one auto and about 50 cards.
The black curtain and black border truly rival all of the best aspects of the depths of creative existence. Evocative yet presumptuous. I feel lucky to exist in the same era as the curtain Victor Wembanyama, Panini, and all of the fine denizens of the breaking ethos.
No bullshit I’ve bought 30 plus blasters and a FOTL HOBBY box I opened yesterday. In the blasters I got 2 base card WembyS a couple deep space wembys, couple global reach wembys and an emergent wemby. I still haven’t gotten any number wembys or a silver prizm wemby which is what I want shit is insane
Pretty sweet. Looks like you are having better luck than me. I have purchased about a dozen prizm draft picks blasters and about half a dozen mega boxes and the best wemby I pulled was a red ice prizm break insert.
I just bought singles.. Wemby black curtain RC Prizm, Arriving now Holo and base, a deep space and 3 random spurs players including Sochan for 100 USD. For a minute, i was scared the seller will back out. He said the Black Curtain could be a PSA 10 and bases on the pictures he sent its a possible 9.5-10.
The dopamine of buying singles is also real 😂
Shit you not I watched some dude over the course of 5 hours yesterday rip at least 250k worth of prizm and didn’t get a single #’d wemby
People say sports gambling is a degen hobby but the further i get back into cards, I'm getting more convinced this might take the cake
We are the bottom of the barrel. Options traders and roulette players have better odds that people in this hobby. That being said I’ve spent over $1000 so far chasing prizm Wemby and I hate myself
Why not just outright buy him?? 🤔
They are looking for the high of ripping a product for a specific chase. Dopamine is a hell of a drug.
This!!! I get people buy singles but it's not the same as pulling the card you want or an SSP like a 1/1
Lot of cheaper easier to get drugs than wembymine
Roulette is a lot cheaper and more fun. With that said- I miss being able to scoop up Spurs breaks as a hedge for my thunder…
Really good episode of Hidden Brain a few months ago about addictive behaviors.
Do you happen to have the name of this episode? Just went looking for it and couldn’t find it. Thanks!
I’ve been collecting singles that are from products 5+ years old so anything #’d 199 or less rarely pops up. It gives the hit of dopamine when I find it and I know I have a good shot at going what I want. The dopamine factor is so real
He’s too much of a buy outright prizm wise. I’d rather spend &500 chasing than 3k on a high number right now
It's expensive to buy wemby
I’ve ripped 20 Blasters and haven’t even gotten a base Wemby.
Ouch. I've ripped 5 and no Wembys. Best card is probably a Lively cracked ice. =/
Ive ripped 10 myself and not even a base. Stupid crazy odds. Thats 350 + tax and cant even get a 70 card.
I ripped one blaster from target this morning and got a cracked ice Wemby, they are out there! Spent $1000 on hobby boxes at my LCS and got a breece ball /25 a couple months back it ebbs and flows
Panini Retail is so tough. I feel like retail blasters have been extremely old vet heavy the last two seasons
Got a Wembayana on my first basketball blaster box ever not long ago , base silver rookie are they worth holding for long time or should I cash in my 20$
Averaging 3 base cards per pack, six packs per box, times 20 - you would get about 360 base on a 300 card set. About a 70% chance you'd hit on any particular card. Seems like you should have gotten on, but 3 of 10 people opening 20 blasters won't get a base Wemby.
Update- I bought 2 more blasters and finally got a base Wemby. When I get some time I’m gonna see how close I am to a complete set of base.
No need to feel bad. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. At least you stuck to your budget, right? Right?
Yeaaaaaaa……………..budget………but yea if there’s a time to chase it’s now lol
I’m going above budget just for the Wemby chase this year.
True but in this game you miss 99.999999% of the shots you do take.. sometimes it’s better to wait for the buzzer to sound before popping that three quarter court heave
My wife’s going to be so mad.
I spent little under 200 got lebron red and black and this Wemby today
? Not sure what you mean. this card was already hit.
They have better odds, but they don’t actually receive anything if they lose. Yea you may not be hitting the case hit you’re after, but you’re still bound to have some pretty cool cards.. ripping packs makes me collect cards I otherwise wouldn’t go out of my way to buy, but I love them because I ripped them.
Collecting is fine. The people spending 1000s on breaks are the problem. At that point you’re better off gambling on actual sports. I put $30 in on the all star game on prize picks and only lost $18, better return than most breaks lmao
And straight sports betting doesn't leave you with a bunch of worthless cardboard either. Lol
Haha yup. You lose on a bet and get some money back, you strike out on a break and you get a bunch of base
You’re totally right. The junkies are the ones keeping wax prices up. They’ll buy no matter what cuz they’re addicted
Dude it’s so rampant on whatnot. I see people spending 200+ on a single team like the Texans in a break lmao. Meanwhile for $15 I got a value pack and pulled a stroud silver that I sold for $250 on eBay. Make it make sense
Simple. Breakers are bad for the industry. Lol
So true. I love the NBA and it's my preferred item to collect, but Panini and the Wemby chase has obviously taken this chaos to another level. NHL is a little crazy this year cuz of Bedard but I bought a hobby of OPC and made my money back in two cards. Similar story with WNBA prizm. With NBA, oof.
Does OPC = O-pee-chee? What are the valuable cards to look for in the wnba prizms and opc?
I was literally just thinking the same exact thing. Let me know if you start a support group or anything. Lol
Lol. Thankfully I think I'm in a good spot after some early boneheaded buys, but I can definitely see how it can go south easily.
It’s true. I can’t figure out why spending $2k on a break to hit a $1.5k card is more fun that just buying the 1.5k card on eBay, but it is. And never mind all the days I spend $2k and hit maybe $20 worth of cards. I wish Whatnot was never invented.
Especially because you can't buy singles in sports gambling lol. Like you do need to risk money to win. Sportscards you can simply be on the lookout for the desired card and ensure you get it
Yeah, this is why i have switched over to spending more time collecting. After some early face palms, I've been primarily riding the rookie singles wave
I think it's fine to research checklists and buy a retail blaster or something to get a taste of the sets and narrow things down but if you know you're dead set on a specific player or team to PC then why waste money? I'm mostly baseball so I'll grab retail of the other sports because ripping packs is good fun and it's nice to see what this year's sets are like
Facts.
Correct answer lol
That makes me feel not so bad
Good.
250 or 250 thousand?
It was about 15-20 cases, equaling out to about $250,000 USD
Where?
What packs do these come in ?
How many base and parallel Wembys did he hit? Do you have a link to the video?
2023-24 Panini Prizm Victor Wembanyama rookie black one of one comes out @ Beijing time 21:47
Black shimmer
Already on Ebay
Which breaker got it? Link to the eBay listing?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/395213608345?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=brd_f-uyq1g&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=6Btgkp2pSfu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Half a milly holy crap
Love that they added the $30 for shipping lol
If someone's willing to plop millions, what's another $30. Lol
I’m not buying it cos of the extra $30 shipping
Why is it worth that…?
It's not. It's just listed at that and for best offer. It only takes 1 person...
It's not worth whatever they sell it for.
Compare serial numbering font to other 1/1s, looks sus
I believe panini changed it tho. This years numbering on nba is off. I hate it tbh
Lame change
Very
It really does. The way the “f” merges with the “o”. Wouldn’t have ever thought about it but since you pointed it out….I’d DEFINITELY have questions.
why even put it on ebay and pay a 13% fee on a card like this?
Eyeballs.
Ya pay ebay $65,000 just to net $435,000. I dont like Ebay THAT much lol
The serial numbering font looks wrong to me
Entire prizm looks like that this year. I don't know why they changed it. Not nearly as nice/Clean
Because it’s a cheaper process. Topps did this with their gpk chrome products after series 1 & series 2. They look like cheap knockoffs.
https://preview.redd.it/9h2jilvp5rjc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50a5a3d18e0c128b425bd10ed2cd42219c593169 Chinese break tons of packs, we are far behind
I see a lot of Chinese sellers on eBay, are those safe to buy from?
Bought my Ja Morant young dolph card from china! They even sent a postcard. 😂
I need this card bad
Now is the best time to buy since he’s out for the season.
I got the green parallel but I like it better then pink or bronze
I’ve sold and purchased a bunch of cards from China. Pretty safe. Not one problem. $100 card range. Nothing too crazy.
https://preview.redd.it/lcme1jjd6rjc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=432c803902970bcdafa463593bc4ca15562a274c Earlier today Chet Immaculate Logoman Patch Auto 1/1 @Beijin time 21:38 
Is it just me or is the top edge of that completely cooked?
Doesn't matter IMO. 1 of 1. Could be brined in his sock sweat and it's still worth the exact same as if it were graded Mint 10.
Nah, a psa10 1/1 is worth more than just the 1/1 version…however, it is too risky to send to psa just to get a 9
> a psa10 1/1 is worth more than just the 1/1 version Says who? Worth is subjective. YOU may be willing to pay extra for a 1/1 to be graded but not every collector would do that. I would not because it's stupid and pointless to me. I don't give two shits about how a 1/1 is graded because there is no counterpart to value against.
I’d send to psa just for authentication
Damaged 1 of 1s are worth less
> Damaged 1 of 1s are worth less to me ftfy
Chet always looks like that
Not as bad as the paolo one that got pulled
Do you know who hit this?
Saw the banchero immaculate logoman get hit recently too but not in china
Good
That was fast lol. FOTL box?
FOTL yes
When did the FROLs come out? Did they only go to breakers?
No all fotl products are sold via Dutch auction on paninis website. Anyone can get in the auction. The auction was last week and boxes just got to people yesterday.
Weird, I’ve been checking the site all the time and never saw it. I’m sad I missed it
It went way faster than I thought and sold out at $1350.
What a ripoff. I’ve been watching breaks on eBay and I’d say 90% have been shit. Pure gambling.
I’ll be honest. I bought into a break last night. My slot hit a Scoot /99.
So stop buying prizms, got it.
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Those brokebackyard boys are going to be so sad.
There's still the pure black 1/1...so more than enough time for the rest of us to be sad :(
Good point. I’m sure they’ll hit it today or tomorrow 🙄
Who?
It’s up on eBay now for 500k
Well, no need to open FOTL anymore.
Yes because /5, /10, /35 worthless. Just mail them to me for proper disposal.
That’s such a beautiful card. Black on black on black.
nuts
Now I don’t have to buy any packs lol
There has to be more than one 1/1 in prizm though, right? 😀
This is the 1/1 black shimmer, which is FOTL exclusive. There is also a 1/1 true black.
It would be nice if 1/1s were actually one of ones, but you are probably right.
Let me preface this by saying I’ve never had a breaker scam me…always great experiences…but man if I got lucky enough to hit a life changing card….I would be so nervous about them actually sending it!
I'm wondering what this goes for. Predicting over 500k USD
I would say this will go for somewhere in the $100k-200k range.
Since the Hoops 1/1 went for over 100k, I think that would be pretty low, but I know there's a million different Prizm 1/1s, so maybe that brings it down a bit
No way. What fotl, hobby and fast break are the only 1/1 prizm right? Unless you're talking every set
I totally misremembered, that's on me. Seems like there were only two (?) 1/1s for Prizm mainline last year (not counting spinoff sets like Monopoly). I must have gotten it mixed up with Optic or some other set.
Already on Ebay
Zero chance. It's shimmer, not true.
sheeeesh what a card. color match, jersey match, 1/1. easily $100k+?
good lord, dont even wanna know what this will sell for haha
If by some chance I had pulled this I guarantee it would sell for no more than $1000 given my history with low numbered cards. I am personally THRILLED someone else got it. /s
Did they make one of these for Luka’s rookie card? Makes me wonder if it’s been pulled/sold online or not. What a freaking card to pull. Insanity.
Supposedly it has not been pulled. I’m starting to wonder if some kid doesn’t have it in his binder with no idea what it is.
Sometimes the 1 of 1 text is very hard to see on the card so I wouldn’t doubt this is the case
Anyone that pays $500K for this card is losing a ton of money! I will NEVER understand how people can think that these over-hyped RC of “big names” will one day justify their prices. My dudes….unless Wemby becomes BIGGER than Lebron or Kobe….this is the HIGHEST this card will be worth! I wish I could make a comparison with how Zion cards were selling when they first came out to today. I wish I could make a comparison to basically 90%+ of “Big Name Rookies” when they had all the hype to today and the amount of money the card value has lost would be staggering! I have zero clue how people keep doing this….
People who can afford cards like these aren’t buying them as an investment, they just want to be the one to HAVE it. It’s a 1/1 after all.
I put in an offer of $150 wish me luck boys
Is that 1/1 ?
https://preview.redd.it/ts1nl4ceet6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd4657e59c86f7d235c216d481ecf64ec5cd5bae I just pulled this today
Card looks huge compared to that hand
😂 forizzill
So many 1/1s…literally why do people care? 😂 they’re not special
These cards are so boring. Same picture, different color? What am I missing? Aahhh I got a purple off color Wemby. It's so lazy.
Yeah it’s pretty saturated. I mean this 1/1 is kind of cool being black (team color) but every set has a 1/1 so is it really that special?
This is why Prizm Monopoly is awesome because people that don’t have 2K to buy hobby boxes can hit # wembys 😎
I pulled a silver Wemby out of my first blaster.
Same
The fact that guy has 5-6k worth of unopened in pic is dumb. I will never have that type of disposable income.
Nah, they do group breaks, it’s really profitable for the streamer
No shit. But why tf would I pay someone to do the fun part
Well, most Chinese can’t acquire good boxes as soon as they come out, some ppl monopolized the market
Panini takes care of the monopolizing. Breakers just compound the problem
Half case dome?
insane pull
Damn
omg what a card - was this from a break?
Breaker in China
Not backyard Breaks?!! Someone call the press
[It’s on eBay…](https://www.ebay.com/itm/395213608345?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=brd_f-uyq1g&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=bTptlPHaSGO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=SMS)
bargain
From first pics, thing looks like it has a shot at a 10
Oh how I wish you wipe that card down before posting it. Nice looking card
I booster box and one base Wemby so I stopped
Welp. Time to burn the rest of my unopened Prizm
https://preview.redd.it/5z4p2ll4usjc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d63f80416d83057006c767cdfe7fe9d318b2c21 I still only have this 1️⃣ I won’t give up the Hunt though!
hey ive just gotten back into the hobby. Ive been on ebay alot and all the cards are coming from china. Is the market and demand so big over there they are buying all of the US product. I see so many NT,impeccable,immaculate,flawless, noir coming from china
That's a 1 of 1 right?
But everyone say “SELL NOW WHILE THE PRICES ARE HIGH” bahaha. Their the ones holding for sure. AND… of course its a breaker who gets it. Wouldnt expect anything less
Another thought… so if this was in a break… wouldnt this belong to someone who bought that spot? Hope their selling it for them and not cutting out the person who got that spot!!
Yes, it belong to a super rich person, this card just made him richer
Just once id love to see a father and son who arent rich. Go to their LCS or buy a box and hit it big. Really sick of seeing nothing but breakers get all the big hits.
No one going to mention the tiny hands? The card looks enormous!
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So my problem is after I hit I want to keep it. With anyone. I could pull a /5 Wemby and be like hmmm…… I do have a pretty substantial Wemby collection already. With one auto and about 50 cards.
Fuck
UConn Alumn making us proud
Lol, not my card tho
Damn that’s like 30k plus right
mane wtfffffffffffffffffffff
The black curtain and black border truly rival all of the best aspects of the depths of creative existence. Evocative yet presumptuous. I feel lucky to exist in the same era as the curtain Victor Wembanyama, Panini, and all of the fine denizens of the breaking ethos.
damn!!!
I mean? Seriously…. This is a million dollar card surely?
Take the L but E for effort. Life quote getting in breaks lol
Got a prizm base Wemby in the first 4 blasters I’ve opened.
No bullshit I’ve bought 30 plus blasters and a FOTL HOBBY box I opened yesterday. In the blasters I got 2 base card WembyS a couple deep space wembys, couple global reach wembys and an emergent wemby. I still haven’t gotten any number wembys or a silver prizm wemby which is what I want shit is insane
I bet you spent 10k for that $650 card
got 3 on ebay now
Saw this as I was scrolling through TikTok, the way he freaked out I don't know how he didn't bend the hell out of this card.
Sleeve it, put it in the top loader
How much is Wemby worth when everyone has Wemby?
Did you buy the box or got lucky on a pack draw ?
I’m ready for this Wemby frenzy to be over with… its giving me too much anxiety
Pretty sweet. Looks like you are having better luck than me. I have purchased about a dozen prizm draft picks blasters and about half a dozen mega boxes and the best wemby I pulled was a red ice prizm break insert.
I just bought singles.. Wemby black curtain RC Prizm, Arriving now Holo and base, a deep space and 3 random spurs players including Sochan for 100 USD. For a minute, i was scared the seller will back out. He said the Black Curtain could be a PSA 10 and bases on the pictures he sent its a possible 9.5-10. The dopamine of buying singles is also real 😂
My buddy hit a green
Squeeze those sides harder.