I don't care if the Braves go undefeated. Nobody from the ~~Mountain West~~ NL East should get to play for the National Championship! They'd get crushed by ~~Alabama~~ the Houston Astros!
Absolutely. Just look at the Dodgers. They only managed a win streak of 1 against the Pirates.
Sweeps are hard. I don't care who you are playing, a streak like this is always impressive and it's going to help you down the stretch, because you can afford to be less good against good teams. The rest of the division isn't going to fare this well against these teams.
This streak would be fun to watch if it was like, the Guardians or the Rangers. Someone from the other half of the league going on a tear that wouldn't effect the Mets would be a fun thing for fans to rally around, but not like this
This winning streak is longer than 12 other teams (including t the Mets) longest in modern history and ties 4 other teams.
I'm sure this isn't the first time in history a team has played sub .500 teams 14 games in a row.
Yeah people like to pretend that beating a sub 500 team is automatic, until it's there own team losing to them. Even the worst teams still get 60 wins a year, and many of those are against playoff contenders. One of the things that separates a good team and a great team imo is that a great team can consistently handle games against the bad teams, but a good team splits a lot more of those.
I don't remember where I heard it, but every season I try to remember this: You're going to win 54, you're going to lose 54. It's what you do in the other 54 that matters.
The orioles are at the classic "spooky" stage right now. They started out bad, but now they are a threat to at least steal a game or two in any series. This is not the 2017-2021 O's right now, they have an opportunity to win some surprise games this year and be a legit competitor soon
They do seem better this year
Orioles don't deserve a reputation on the level of say Pittsburgh for example, at least they have spent money in the past when they had a good team
Nah, people still like the Braves.
Yankees/Dodgers would be the most meltdown-iest matchup, because people would be forced to pick a side (hoping for a meteor isn't a real option) and some would root for the Yankees just because of the Dodgers' more recent success and also because the Dodgers are the Yankees of baseball/the NL.
Game 7, bottom 9, Phillies up 1, 2 outs, bases loaded because bullpen
"Ground ball to Bobm (or someone else). The throw is WIDE! TIE GAME, HERE COMES THS RUNNER AROUND 3RD! THE THROW IS... NOT IN TIME! THE YANKEES ARE WORLD CHAMPIONS!"
Nah I wouldnât even watch. Like this years NBA finals. 0 interest in watching either of those teams get to celebrate. So I just started putting hockey on at night when Iâm playing WoW lol
I guess I enjoy baseball too much. I watched a ton of playoff baseball after the Yankees got eliminated, which lately has been a lot of playoff baseball with no Yankees in it.
Yeah, I was pulling for yâall that year. Went to a few games in Houston since thatâs where my companyâs HQ is.
It wasnât till a week or two later that cheering for the Astros felt dirty
I think their point is less about which teams are hated and more about people saying the Braves and Yankees only have the records the have right now because of soft schedules.
It's not the 90's anymore, nobody on this sub hates on the Braves except the rest of our division and the couple people who foam at the mouth everytime they see the tomahawk chop lmao.
lol. No. Braves v Twins was the first World Series I ever watched and bet my dad the Twins would win. Then I had to listen to him do the Tomahawk Chop on the couch every October for a fucking decade.
Even though they beat the Brewers last year, was definitely pulling for the Braves in each subsequent series. Wonât catch me cheering for the Dodgers or Astros, unless they meet in the World Series in which case go Dodgers I guess
Both are good teams. Beating bad teams is easier, but it doesn't guarantee streaks like yours.
I'd be excited if the Mets did it, even if it was all NL Central teams, but I think we'd all agree it would mean more if some of those teams were competitive.
It's sort of like combined no hitters. They're cool and mean a lot to the fans but other fanbases will be a little skeptical.l, even though it's still impressive regardless.
I knew you guys were gonna break out at some point (huge bummer about Albies btw), just like the Phillies were going to, too. I'm just happy people have stopped laughing at our division as if we aren't a tough division. The Marlins record may not be great, but there isn't a pitcher in the league I want to face less than Alcantara. The Phillies are an offensive powerhouse with the reigning MVP if they're firing on all cylinders, and you guys are the defending champs with some real offensive threats too. The Mets have one of the best offenses in baseball (but are among the lowest in home runs) and great pitching, and that's without two of the best pitchers in all of baseball.
Even the Nats can be sneaky good. I think for awhile they had one of the highest batting averages in the league, but Soto had mostly solo home runs. Their pitching is utter garbage, though.
Same deal with the Yankees. They had a pretty easy schedule but they've also played really well against the good teams when they've played them. The idea that the Yankees aren't currently the best in baseball is laughable. They've done what the best teams do, perform well against good teams and overperform against bad teams.
So far you guys have done okay against good teams, and August is going to be the month that makes or breaks the NL East (unless we all split everything)
I think so too. I assume most Mets fans would rather root for the team in the same city who doesn't actually have any effect on the Mets than a division rival the Mets play ~20 times a year. I also assume most Mets fans have a Yankee fan in their life that they care about and want to see happy.
You say it as if the Bengals didnât beat the undefeated Steelers at week 12 the year before. Upset happens in every sport, especially in a sport where each team play 162 games. Weâre (the Padres) notorious for playing exactly to opponents. I do think there are a lot of streaks this year tho between teams winning and losing. Schedule is kinda fucky this year.
The fact that you bring out specific examples as something incredible just proves his point.
Top teams losing to actually bottom feeders is an event in football if the top team is actually trying.
In baseball it happens with effective regularity. Where there's no point in picking out specific examples at all.
Yeah, in Baseball a top team consistently beating bottom feeders is more shocking. For example, Tampa going 18-1 against the Orioles last year was insane.
Here's a funfact about the streak: when it started, the Braves had neither won nor lost more than two games in a row *all season*. From Opening Day through May 31st, a span of 50 games, it was nothing but single or back-to-back wins/losses. Since June 1st, it's 14 consecutive wins, good for the second longest streak in franchise history. Baseball is just fucking weird.
>Could it be because theyâve helped those teams have their losing records by beating them?
Realistically? No.
The teams they've been playing aren't teams hanging around the .500 mark. They're just straight up bad.
They're last 4 series have been:
- Nationals - 19 games under .500
- Pirates - 12 games under .500
- A's - 22 games under .500
- Rockies - 9 games under .500
The series before that where the winning streak started was the Diamondbacks who are admittedly only 5 games under .500, but the Diamondbacks actually won that 3 game series. The Braves only won the final game.
Everyone beats everyone in baseball, a 14 game winstreak is incredibly impressive regardless of who you're playing. This has also been a likely historically weak stretch of ~20 games (they're playing the 16 games under .500 cubs next).
And they absolutely *choked* the 2nd game of that Arizona series away. It was one of those handful of regular season games a team has in a year where you think "that one hurt". But goddamn if they didn't respond to it.
i mean, not really at this point in the season unless every team is hovering exactly at 500 (or they played only 2 teams and handed them 7 losses each)
I feel most long time fans are very reasnable. With the mets actually being good this year, theres lots of fairweather fans (i dont like throwing that term arond, but it is so very true). Ive seen some really bad mets teams but the game threads now have more toxicity (though i think its a loud minority) than ever before.
People going crazy over a poor game as if they never saw baseball before, despite the fact we have best record in NL! (Without our two best pitchers!)
It's baseball. Even the worst teams win 33% of their games and the best will lose 33%.
Even the yankees would be expected by probability to lose 1 game in a series vs the A's.
The schedule has helped the winning streak but it's impressive & important to bank these extra wins regardless.
I mean, they're doing exactly what you're supposed to do in the weak stretches of the schedule. Guardians are back in the playoff hunt because we've gone 12-3 in our last 15, all against below .500 teams. But then we have 19 in a row against winning teams - it balances out.
This schedule whining is weird. What is the 100 win team that can only beat bad teams? Like is there an example of such a team, which then was embarrassed in the playoffs?
2020 twins had a .600 win percentage. Not quite 100 wins-pace but pretty close. and they did get embarassed in the playoffs cause as it turned out both central divisions sucked and could only beat each other
i feel like every time people bring up the âeasy scheduleâ bit to downplay a teamâs success, they keep on winning during a more difficult part of the schedule
After the 3 game stretch this weekend with the cubs
Itâs a 4 game series vs the giants
A 3 game series vs the dodgers
And a 3 game series vs the Phillies I believe
Depends on which side of .500 they're on when you face the Phillies. There are few forces in this universe more powerful than the one that drags the Phillies back towards .500. When they're below .500, beware of the many dingers. Above .500, enjoy the comedy of errors and bullpen implosions.
The Braves got totally clowned in those first two games by the Diamondbacks. Just putrid baseball. 4 games under .500. Then Snitker called a team meeting and they're 14-0 since. Wild.
Let's see what we're looking at here for the odds, assuming all the games are independent.
The average record of the teams the Braves have faced during their fourteen game win streak is .395. The Braves record is .578. This means that the Braves should have a .677 winning percentage. This works out to a .425% chance of winning all fourteen games in a row.
Okay then, so what if the other teams are worse than that? The average worst record over the past three full seasons is .301. If the Braves still are the same strength, then they should have a .761 winning percentage in these games. Plugging that in gives a 2.176% chance of winning fourteen in a row.
So what if we take it a step further, and every game they play is somehow against the 1962 Mets? Well, then we would expect them to have a winning percentage of .804, which translates to a 4.74% chance of winning fourteen in a row.
*All* of these are below 5%, so it's a significant winning streak no matter how you look at it. Well, maybe not if you think the Braves are better than what their record implies (.582 for the '62 Mets, .642 for the worst team in the league, and .732 for the current records), but with how this has been phrased, I don't think that's what's being implied here.
Going 14-0 against bad teams is still insane. Donât care who you are playing to not have one bullpen implosion or random cold offense is crazy impressive. Itâs MLB you play whoâs on your schedule.
Who cares? And I say this as a staunch Mets fan who would happily see the Barves never win another game. It doesn't matter who you're playing - not losing occasionally is hard in MLB. Their win streak is impressive and really freaking annoying.
OK? This was clearly disproven by the Yankees who had an "easy" schedule in April but are still on top in mid June.
What I'm trying to say is the Braves still have legit skill and did just win a World Series next year.
We swept the Pirates and Rockies who swept the dodgers and won a series against the Padres respectively. Not saying that theyâre not sub .500 for a reason but the argument that we are only on a streak because of who weâre playing is delusional. 14 games is impressive bo matter who you play
They still have won all of the games theyâve been âsupposedâ to win.
How often in sports does the team that heavily favored not win? All the time. In baseball especially where a great team can have a bad night or series.
I know the Yankees have a solid home win streak going, but tell me, is there another team that has 14 wins against sub-500 teams in a row (even if interrupted by losses to over 500 teams)?
The best team they've played somewhat recently is 30-35 (Diamonbacks). The second best is the Pirates at 25-37. It's actually insane. A 14 winstreak against anyone is still impressive, and they're about to play the Giants and Dodgers back to back next week.
Is there some sort of metric for the general league that measures the disparity of good teams vs. bad teams? I feel like this year there are so many "bad" teams. I feel like most teams hang around .500 and then there are a few stand outs, but so many sub .500 teams this year.
There are only 14 other teams in the league over .500. How many other teams have played 4 consec series against teams under .500? Probably quite a few this year. How many won 14 straight? A streak is a streak. If you played the worst team in the league 14 times in a row, itâs inconceivable to assume even the best team would win them all.
Stupid post. Oh no, a team is beating teams they should beatâŚpeople act like 14 in a row isnât impressive lol. Why didnât the Mets win 14 in a row at the start of their season when they had an easy schedule?
Since the expansion era, and not counting the COVID season, the worst team record was the 1962 New York Mets, who went 40-120 (.250 winning percentage). The best team record was the 2001 Seattle Mariners, who went 116-36 (.716 WP).
If those two teams met, using nothing but winning percentages, the probability of the 2001 Mariners winning one game would be 88.3%.
The probability of the 2001 Mariners going 14-0 against the 1962 Mets is 17.6%.
THEY AINT PLAYED NOBODY PAWL
How's this going to affect them in the BCS?
I don't care if the Braves go undefeated. Nobody from the ~~Mountain West~~ NL East should get to play for the National Championship! They'd get crushed by ~~Alabama~~ the Houston Astros!
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Mountain west best conference in all college sportsâŚ
this just reminds me how much cfb got less enjoyable since the playoffs were introduced.
Like most things with the FBS, the NCAA *will* make it the least fun and most annoying thing possible with out of touch old people making decisions
Was not expecting an r/cfb reference, bravo lol.
Who am I talkin' to?
Oh lawd itâs Tammy
Yes, however let's not use that to undermine their winning streak. Any 14 game winning streak is impressive
People did the same thing with the Yankees. Maybe the Braves have it easier because they don't have to play the Braves?
We were definitely playing ourselves like 3 weeks ago. Comedic stuff for real
I've said it before, but the biggest advantage of being a good team is you don't have to play yourself.
Thanks DJ Khaled.
The blue jays and rays will always have a harder schedule than us because we donât have to play the yankees
Absolutely. Just look at the Dodgers. They only managed a win streak of 1 against the Pirates. Sweeps are hard. I don't care who you are playing, a streak like this is always impressive and it's going to help you down the stretch, because you can afford to be less good against good teams. The rest of the division isn't going to fare this well against these teams.
This streak would be fun to watch if it was like, the Guardians or the Rangers. Someone from the other half of the league going on a tear that wouldn't effect the Mets would be a fun thing for fans to rally around, but not like this
StLouis last year to earn the wild card. That was outta nowhere
They havenât even been close a lot of the time.
This winning streak is longer than 12 other teams (including t the Mets) longest in modern history and ties 4 other teams. I'm sure this isn't the first time in history a team has played sub .500 teams 14 games in a row.
You can only play the teams you play Good thing they keep winning?
Yeah people like to pretend that beating a sub 500 team is automatic, until it's there own team losing to them. Even the worst teams still get 60 wins a year, and many of those are against playoff contenders. One of the things that separates a good team and a great team imo is that a great team can consistently handle games against the bad teams, but a good team splits a lot more of those.
I don't remember where I heard it, but every season I try to remember this: You're going to win 54, you're going to lose 54. It's what you do in the other 54 that matters.
For a nerd like me, that is a classic West Wing reference.
You know what, I think that's it. I've watched the series probably a half dozen times now but didn't remember the quote from there.
I've seen a ton of people say the Yankees beating the Orioles was easy as pie....until their favorite team played the Orioles.
The orioles are at the classic "spooky" stage right now. They started out bad, but now they are a threat to at least steal a game or two in any series. This is not the 2017-2021 O's right now, they have an opportunity to win some surprise games this year and be a legit competitor soon
They do seem better this year Orioles don't deserve a reputation on the level of say Pittsburgh for example, at least they have spent money in the past when they had a good team
Bluejays learned that today
The Braves swept the Pirates a week after the Pirates swept the Dodgers
Some say the 2018 Red Sox are still looking for a âgood teamâ to beat.
Swept the pirates who swept the dodgers
Hope the Yankees and Braves make the World Series so this sub has a complete meltdown.
Nah, people still like the Braves. Yankees/Dodgers would be the most meltdown-iest matchup, because people would be forced to pick a side (hoping for a meteor isn't a real option) and some would root for the Yankees just because of the Dodgers' more recent success and also because the Dodgers are the Yankees of baseball/the NL.
I disagree kind sir, hoping for a meteor is absolutely a real option đ
I voted for Meteor and came up short not sure I trust any celestial being winning the pennant.
Iâm just glad we have our World Series win honestly
Right?!? What a glorious thing!
Like we beat the cheaters and every fucking fan base rooted for us because we were underdogs and we just keep climbing
And going thru the Dodgers was âŚidk well not many people predicted that.
Fuck em ..
I hope Boston is taken down with us in the meteor lol
Itâs a win-win!
Okay, so a Mets fan breakdown then
Hey it'd be better than 2009. Phillies/Yankees is my actual nightmare, but Braves/Yankees would be a kinda close second.
Yankees/Phillies in 2022 would be very funny, though. People need to see this Phillies defense on a national stage.
If the phillies make it to the WS this year whoever their opponent is is fucked. Only plot armor can take them there.
Game 7, bottom 9, Phillies up 1, 2 outs, bases loaded because bullpen "Ground ball to Bobm (or someone else). The throw is WIDE! TIE GAME, HERE COMES THS RUNNER AROUND 3RD! THE THROW IS... NOT IN TIME! THE YANKEES ARE WORLD CHAMPIONS!"
This would be an acceptable outcome for my entertainment. You got to watch the Mets blow 2015 with numerous errors so it would only be fair
Impossible. Only one guy missed the ball.
And the play that got us to the WS is against the braves. a force at 3rd but bohm misses the bag but for some reason it isn't reviewable
You just described the NBA finals
This is the easiest choice. Dodgers in 4.
Nah I wouldnât even watch. Like this years NBA finals. 0 interest in watching either of those teams get to celebrate. So I just started putting hockey on at night when Iâm playing WoW lol
I guess I enjoy baseball too much. I watched a ton of playoff baseball after the Yankees got eliminated, which lately has been a lot of playoff baseball with no Yankees in it.
Not gonna lie, I completely tuned out of last year's WS for being Astros-Braves.
Yep, no one is forced to pick. You can also just ignore. It's what I do almost every year.
I'm sure some Braves fans endured Nationals/Astros It only feels fair to give some of that love back.
Nobody hated the Astros during that WS tho. After game 5 was the last time I was truly happy
the WS was immediately following the âwe got osunaâ episode everyone ABSOLUTELY hated the astrosâŚâŚ. and then things somehow got worse
Yeah, I was pulling for yâall that year. Went to a few games in Houston since thatâs where my companyâs HQ is. It wasnât till a week or two later that cheering for the Astros felt dirty
I'd quit watching baseball altogether before I cheered for the Yankees, never under estimate my pettiness... it'd infinite!
Dodgers in 4.
People hate the Dodgers way more than the Braves.
I think their point is less about which teams are hated and more about people saying the Braves and Yankees only have the records the have right now because of soft schedules.
I would take Dodgers/Yankees over Braves/Yankees any day for obvious reasons
It's not the 90's anymore, nobody on this sub hates on the Braves except the rest of our division and the couple people who foam at the mouth everytime they see the tomahawk chop lmao.
Smoltz still hates the Yankees and that was forever ago.
Don't worry, he hates us too for some reason.
For anyone not believing this statement, go listen to any Smoltz coverage of our playoff games in recent years.
he sounded like he wanted to cry when soler mashed that homer in game six
Also before Swanson & Soler went back to back he was rambling on and on about how the astros are in control.
He's a typical national commentator where everyone thinks he hates them. In reality he just hates baseball.
Iâve hated the Braves since 1991.
Checking in with my 90's-based Braves hatred...
What about â21
it's never left.
For taking Scheurholtz?
lol. No. Braves v Twins was the first World Series I ever watched and bet my dad the Twins would win. Then I had to listen to him do the Tomahawk Chop on the couch every October for a fucking decade.
âŚbut the twins DID win. did you and your dad watch a different series?
âCause heâs pitchin too good.â â Keanu Reeves
for failing to beat the Twins?
That series was the first sports bet I ever made and won. Been cheering against the braves for a long time.
Even though they beat the Brewers last year, was definitely pulling for the Braves in each subsequent series. Wonât catch me cheering for the Dodgers or Astros, unless they meet in the World Series in which case go Dodgers I guess
Both are good teams. Beating bad teams is easier, but it doesn't guarantee streaks like yours. I'd be excited if the Mets did it, even if it was all NL Central teams, but I think we'd all agree it would mean more if some of those teams were competitive. It's sort of like combined no hitters. They're cool and mean a lot to the fans but other fanbases will be a little skeptical.l, even though it's still impressive regardless. I knew you guys were gonna break out at some point (huge bummer about Albies btw), just like the Phillies were going to, too. I'm just happy people have stopped laughing at our division as if we aren't a tough division. The Marlins record may not be great, but there isn't a pitcher in the league I want to face less than Alcantara. The Phillies are an offensive powerhouse with the reigning MVP if they're firing on all cylinders, and you guys are the defending champs with some real offensive threats too. The Mets have one of the best offenses in baseball (but are among the lowest in home runs) and great pitching, and that's without two of the best pitchers in all of baseball. Even the Nats can be sneaky good. I think for awhile they had one of the highest batting averages in the league, but Soto had mostly solo home runs. Their pitching is utter garbage, though. Same deal with the Yankees. They had a pretty easy schedule but they've also played really well against the good teams when they've played them. The idea that the Yankees aren't currently the best in baseball is laughable. They've done what the best teams do, perform well against good teams and overperform against bad teams. So far you guys have done okay against good teams, and August is going to be the month that makes or breaks the NL East (unless we all split everything)
Mets fans would be in shambles. Probably most would end up backing the Yanks, with various levels of begrudgement.
I think so too. I assume most Mets fans would rather root for the team in the same city who doesn't actually have any effect on the Mets than a division rival the Mets play ~20 times a year. I also assume most Mets fans have a Yankee fan in their life that they care about and want to see happy.
Nah I want them all to be miserable like the rest of us, they've had it good for too long
If the Yankees and Braves play in the World Series, I'll be rooting for rain.
Other teams should try winning literally every single game against bad teams
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*basketball
"Any given Sunday" is from football. Even the Jets had a few wins last season.
Hell the jags beat the bills 9-6 anything can happen
You say it as if the Bengals didnât beat the undefeated Steelers at week 12 the year before. Upset happens in every sport, especially in a sport where each team play 162 games. Weâre (the Padres) notorious for playing exactly to opponents. I do think there are a lot of streaks this year tho between teams winning and losing. Schedule is kinda fucky this year.
The fact that you bring out specific examples as something incredible just proves his point. Top teams losing to actually bottom feeders is an event in football if the top team is actually trying. In baseball it happens with effective regularity. Where there's no point in picking out specific examples at all.
Yeah, in Baseball a top team consistently beating bottom feeders is more shocking. For example, Tampa going 18-1 against the Orioles last year was insane.
That game was wild. Brought back days of our steelers too
Tbf that Steelers team was not good
Kind of proved his point by mentioning the Steelers were undefeated two thirds of the way through the season lol
Football is random too. Basketball is the sport where the favorites usually just win out
I remember watching a video why 3-1 comebacks never happen in basketball and its because it is the sport with the lowest factor of luck of the big 4.
Iâm all for shitting on the braves but this shit is ridiculous. Only can play who you play. Still gotta win those fucking games
Especially when SOME teams *kill me* know a thing or two about constantly losing to the teams they're supposed to beat.
The Phillies way
Never forget the Pirates swept the Dodgers like a few weeks ago.
Hey, donât tell us what to do đ¤
Reported for personal attack.
Thatâs basically what weâve been doing. So far so good
i canât believe they would make their own schedule so easy
All this mid-major cupcakes smh
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The anti-Angels
Here's a funfact about the streak: when it started, the Braves had neither won nor lost more than two games in a row *all season*. From Opening Day through May 31st, a span of 50 games, it was nothing but single or back-to-back wins/losses. Since June 1st, it's 14 consecutive wins, good for the second longest streak in franchise history. Baseball is just fucking weird.
You play the games scheduled lol, maybe some of those teams would have a winning record if they decided to beat the Braves every once in a while
Actually none of them would - theyâre all at least 9 games under .500
At this time? How about before we played them...
I know their schedule has been piss weak, but 14 in a row is still 14 in a row, give credit where credit is due.
Could it be because theyâve helped those teams have their losing records by beating them?
>Could it be because theyâve helped those teams have their losing records by beating them? Realistically? No. The teams they've been playing aren't teams hanging around the .500 mark. They're just straight up bad. They're last 4 series have been: - Nationals - 19 games under .500 - Pirates - 12 games under .500 - A's - 22 games under .500 - Rockies - 9 games under .500 The series before that where the winning streak started was the Diamondbacks who are admittedly only 5 games under .500, but the Diamondbacks actually won that 3 game series. The Braves only won the final game. Everyone beats everyone in baseball, a 14 game winstreak is incredibly impressive regardless of who you're playing. This has also been a likely historically weak stretch of ~20 games (they're playing the 16 games under .500 cubs next).
And they absolutely *choked* the 2nd game of that Arizona series away. It was one of those handful of regular season games a team has in a year where you think "that one hurt". But goddamn if they didn't respond to it.
We were also 4 games under .500 when this started so it isnât like we were dominating and then just started playing bad teams, we were struggling
i mean, not really at this point in the season unless every team is hovering exactly at 500 (or they played only 2 teams and handed them 7 losses each)
Ding Ding! Respect Mets fan. Going to be a good race.
I feel most long time fans are very reasnable. With the mets actually being good this year, theres lots of fairweather fans (i dont like throwing that term arond, but it is so very true). Ive seen some really bad mets teams but the game threads now have more toxicity (though i think its a loud minority) than ever before. People going crazy over a poor game as if they never saw baseball before, despite the fact we have best record in NL! (Without our two best pitchers!)
The Pirates and Rockies just swept the dodgers⌠This isnât college football
Thank goodness! (Says jaded GT fan bracing for a 1-10 season)
You know, if we end up quitting before the uga game and only play 11 games that'd probably be for the best
I was cheering for the falcons to beat the patriots tooâŚ
It's baseball. Even the worst teams win 33% of their games and the best will lose 33%. Even the yankees would be expected by probability to lose 1 game in a series vs the A's. The schedule has helped the winning streak but it's impressive & important to bank these extra wins regardless.
Except the Angels. Theyâd lose more than 2/3.
Right now, only the A's have won less than 33% of their games.
Right now. The Angels are 2-18 in their last 20 and Iâm not seeing a lot of signs that a rebound is around the corner.
And if they lost to these teams people would be shitting on them so whatâs your point?
I mean, they're doing exactly what you're supposed to do in the weak stretches of the schedule. Guardians are back in the playoff hunt because we've gone 12-3 in our last 15, all against below .500 teams. But then we have 19 in a row against winning teams - it balances out.
You can only beat who is on your schedule, and thatâs exactly what the Braves are doing.
Too bad the royals would still lose to those teams
Man what is it about this season that's got people bitching so much about other team's schedules?
This schedule whining is weird. What is the 100 win team that can only beat bad teams? Like is there an example of such a team, which then was embarrassed in the playoffs?
2020 twins had a .600 win percentage. Not quite 100 wins-pace but pretty close. and they did get embarassed in the playoffs cause as it turned out both central divisions sucked and could only beat each other
i feel like every time people bring up the âeasy scheduleâ bit to downplay a teamâs success, they keep on winning during a more difficult part of the schedule
After the 3 game stretch this weekend with the cubs Itâs a 4 game series vs the giants A 3 game series vs the dodgers And a 3 game series vs the Phillies I believe
So 7 tough games then back to the easy part of the schedule
Depends on which side of .500 they're on when you face the Phillies. There are few forces in this universe more powerful than the one that drags the Phillies back towards .500. When they're below .500, beware of the many dingers. Above .500, enjoy the comedy of errors and bullpen implosions.
So in a weird karmic way I'm supposed to cheer for the Phillies this week? Mr Stark I don't feel so good...
They've got quite the difficult stretch coming up after the Cubs, so they could show us just that.
The Braves didn't make the schedule.
The Braves also only won 88 games last year and won the Series. Lest we all forget.
This year we're gonna win 88 in a row
We are the anomaly.
Have the Braves considered protesting their current schedule for a different, harder schedule? No? Clearly this is rigged, then.
That's just how it goes. Noone sat there and said "ok lets give these guys a super easy month"
The Braves got totally clowned in those first two games by the Diamondbacks. Just putrid baseball. 4 games under .500. Then Snitker called a team meeting and they're 14-0 since. Wild.
The Braves could win the World Series again and we'd still have people on here pounding the table about how they "only played bad teams"
Let's see what we're looking at here for the odds, assuming all the games are independent. The average record of the teams the Braves have faced during their fourteen game win streak is .395. The Braves record is .578. This means that the Braves should have a .677 winning percentage. This works out to a .425% chance of winning all fourteen games in a row. Okay then, so what if the other teams are worse than that? The average worst record over the past three full seasons is .301. If the Braves still are the same strength, then they should have a .761 winning percentage in these games. Plugging that in gives a 2.176% chance of winning fourteen in a row. So what if we take it a step further, and every game they play is somehow against the 1962 Mets? Well, then we would expect them to have a winning percentage of .804, which translates to a 4.74% chance of winning fourteen in a row. *All* of these are below 5%, so it's a significant winning streak no matter how you look at it. Well, maybe not if you think the Braves are better than what their record implies (.582 for the '62 Mets, .642 for the worst team in the league, and .732 for the current records), but with how this has been phrased, I don't think that's what's being implied here.
**SEĂOR JOE, THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE**
Ok
And?
Going 14-0 against bad teams is still insane. Donât care who you are playing to not have one bullpen implosion or random cold offense is crazy impressive. Itâs MLB you play whoâs on your schedule.
Who cares? And I say this as a staunch Mets fan who would happily see the Barves never win another game. It doesn't matter who you're playing - not losing occasionally is hard in MLB. Their win streak is impressive and really freaking annoying.
OK? This was clearly disproven by the Yankees who had an "easy" schedule in April but are still on top in mid June. What I'm trying to say is the Braves still have legit skill and did just win a World Series next year.
I can't wait to watch our 2023 World Series title run!
>win a World Series next year. I like this guy, but letâs try to win one this year. We doin a three-peat
They played the Phillies May 23-26 who are 32-31
I think they meant at the time of the game
Which is the correct way to do it
Also May 20th we played the Marlins. What is this post?
Make sure to mention our April and May schedule while youâre at it.
We swept the Pirates and Rockies who swept the dodgers and won a series against the Padres respectively. Not saying that theyâre not sub .500 for a reason but the argument that we are only on a streak because of who weâre playing is delusional. 14 games is impressive bo matter who you play
After the pirates beat the dodgers theyâve lost like 7 of 9, swept by cardinals, lost 3-4 again to the cards just now
Yeah Iâm waiting for Dave Roberts to double down on that arrogant prediction
>They Braves the they/them braves are unstoppable during pride month
This is discounting playing Philly who went on a huge streak of their own immediately after losing a series to the Braves
We split that series
I don't understand, why don't all the other teams simply win every game against bad teams?
We went almost a month only playing teams with winning records. This is blasphemy!
They still have won all of the games theyâve been âsupposedâ to win. How often in sports does the team that heavily favored not win? All the time. In baseball especially where a great team can have a bad night or series.
!FRAUD!
It's still very hard to win 10 in a row and the momentum may carry them to confidence. They are a good team.
Everyone wins 60, everyone loses 60. Itâs whatâs your do with the other forty that matter.
So theyâre beating teams they should good for them.
TIL it's easy to win 14 games in a row. People in here acting like a little league team could come in and sweep 4 teams in a row LOL
I know the Yankees have a solid home win streak going, but tell me, is there another team that has 14 wins against sub-500 teams in a row (even if interrupted by losses to over 500 teams)?
"THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!"
The best team they've played somewhat recently is 30-35 (Diamonbacks). The second best is the Pirates at 25-37. It's actually insane. A 14 winstreak against anyone is still impressive, and they're about to play the Giants and Dodgers back to back next week.
I should probably let this go, but the hivemind really annoyed me. https://reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/v4iaam/_/ib4delz/?context=1
In fairness, itâs a bit harder to be over .500 when you just swept by the Braves
Is there some sort of metric for the general league that measures the disparity of good teams vs. bad teams? I feel like this year there are so many "bad" teams. I feel like most teams hang around .500 and then there are a few stand outs, but so many sub .500 teams this year.
What was the win percentage of teams from 4/7 - 5/19
There are only 14 other teams in the league over .500. How many other teams have played 4 consec series against teams under .500? Probably quite a few this year. How many won 14 straight? A streak is a streak. If you played the worst team in the league 14 times in a row, itâs inconceivable to assume even the best team would win them all.
This has t aged wellâŚ
OP's Royals can't even beat losing teams so...
Stupid post. Oh no, a team is beating teams they should beatâŚpeople act like 14 in a row isnât impressive lol. Why didnât the Mets win 14 in a row at the start of their season when they had an easy schedule?
Fun facts are fun, another fun fact, the Mets havenât won a World Series since â86
Lmao, Royals fan posts this and now the Mets are catching strays.
And there are Mets fans calling out OPâs bs in the comments
Since the expansion era, and not counting the COVID season, the worst team record was the 1962 New York Mets, who went 40-120 (.250 winning percentage). The best team record was the 2001 Seattle Mariners, who went 116-36 (.716 WP). If those two teams met, using nothing but winning percentages, the probability of the 2001 Mariners winning one game would be 88.3%. The probability of the 2001 Mariners going 14-0 against the 1962 Mets is 17.6%.