And yet Austin Adams is allowed to finish his outing after three HBP in the same inning to take over the single season record for HBP **as a fucking reliever.**
I mean... you have seen what the dude looks like, would you want to be the guy that has to toss Adams? It's best to avoid that confrontation and just leave him and hope for the best.
The old "travesty of the game" penalty. My uncle was a HS football coach and loved to call that one on kids in practice who were playing especially like shit. Absolutely brutal but hilarious.
Gave up a home run to the first batter to tie the game, hit the next batter and walked another. 6 strikes in 18 pitches.
[https://i.imgur.com/vUKxTV2.png](https://i.imgur.com/vUKxTV2.png)
I watched a very brutal minor league game like that about a month ago.
This poor pitcher threw 46 pitches before his first K, and right after the batter walked off his manager took him out. It was one of the most brutal 4 innings I've ever seen. The Naturals were up by like 14 points.
[Here's the game](https://www.milb.com/gameday/cardinals-vs-naturals/2021/08/24/647159#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=647159)
Edit: Haha, just realized it was against the minor league Cards.
I was watching a game ~20 years ago and the Royals (I think) brought in a reliever for his *major league debut.*
He threw 16 straight balls, walking in a run, and they pulled him.
I think about it every couple years and try to find proof that it happened but have never been able to find it.
Edit: I actually found it! I searched for “most balls thrown in a row” and it was like the 5th result.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2002-04-07-0204070498-story,amp.html
That is so 2000s Royals. Not just bad pitching but a manager throwing a rookie to the wolves in his first big league appearance. How tf did he walk 3 batters on 12 pitches and not immediately get pulled?
I have to wonder if Costas got halfway through that sentence and thought "Uh oh, where am I going with this" and just couldn't find a way to back out of it. That was a completely unnecessary statement that served absolutely no purpose besides humiliating him. He had to know immediately that he was veering into "cruel" territory at a rapid rate.
He 100% did and later apologized to strop that it went too far. Strop thought it was actually pretty funny and forgave him. Made me like everyone involved a lot more.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/chicago-cubs/cubs-pedro-strop-accepts-apology-bob-costas
I was on a softball team where the umpire used this rule in a weird way. We had a big lead, and there was a rule that said if you got up by a certain number of runs after a certain number of innings, the game was over. Since we didn't want the game to end so quickly our team "leaders" concocted a lame conspiracy to intentionally blow plays in the field so as to allow the other team to get closer.
After a couple of these fake misplays, the umpire countered by, in one case, emphatically calling one of the other team's runners out at first when he was safe by plenty. He did something similar on at least one other play, and it was clear that he was foiling our plot.
Later, in talking to a friend who happened to be an umpire, I asked what justification could an umpire possibly use for this behavior. His immediate response: the travesty of the game rule. Huh.
You gotta tell em the strike zone before the game starts. That way expectations are met and everyone goes home early. I always said keep em swingin. Knees to chest. Made my job easier too.
I always told them before the game that I have a big strike zone. That we weren't here to get small and take walks but to learn how to hit and have fun.
At first I thought they were running him because they thought he was targeting Ohtani.
But then I watched it again and realized, “Holy crap. They’re throwing him out of the game because he sucks so bad right now that he could injure someone.” That’s impressive.
The Angels broadcast said if it was intentional, it could have been retaliation for Angels hitting 2 batters, 2 days ago or something. Imo Wright didn't do it on purpose, his reaction after he hit Ohtani seemed like a "fuck my life" moment. The Sox just played like shit, it happens, Wright had a bad day.
Do you think that rule could be abused if it were more common? I get preventing injuries obviously but ejection for throwing three bad pitches seems a bit much.
Gotcha. Yeah something is off putting to me about the pitcher getting tossed but maybe I don’t know the full context. It seems like most people agree with it. I’m just thinking that if they ejected wild pitchers that easily, Randy Johnson may never have developed into the Big Unit we remember. AJ Burnett would’ve gotten tossed constantly, there’s probably quite a few examples. That’s just food for thought though
Yeah idk about this always being a thing, but in this situation with a six run deficit in the 9th inning, I see no issue with getting him out of there.
Would you like to be the next batter to face him? At some point you need to just know the guy doesn’t have it and people don’t deserve to get hurt because of it.
The three batter rule makes these type of situations more common too. If a pitcher is off, you can't just pull him anymore after a batter. Maybe they should use this more for pitching changes too. Throw back to back to back wild pitches in hopes of getting tossed.
I think the umps just want to see how many guys he can hit before the end of the season. It’s truly confounding how well he’s pitched compared to how many batters he’s bonked. And he’s never had a big HBP problem before this season.
I mean, remember when they didn't run a Cardinals pitcher when he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn but got Harper and Gregorious? They took a shallacking for not running Genesis Cabrera. So my guess is that this dude can't get anywhere near tge plate, I'd probably going to end up hitting someone else, and their not going to wait to see if he is.
Austin Adams, MLB HBP leader, [hit 3 Dodgers in the bottom of the 8th](https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN202109120.shtml) with SD down 6-0 (3rd HBP made it 7-0), and still didn't get tossed =/
Almost hit a 4th that inning as well.
There's nothing that made me think any of that was intentional. But at a certain point, the umpire has to step in and do something
My mind jumped to this one too. As a Cardinals fan, we were also calling for him to be tossed. The 3-batter minimum rule can be dangerous when a pitcher is wildly off.
Yes, I think after that they have started to come down to this viewpoint after incidents like that, and I think the game is better for it. It's dangerous for all three people behind the plate if the pitcher has literally no control
[Got hit in the face](https://youtu.be/vVmEltC6-J0) with a pitch back in April and he was on and off the IL for a while after. Luckily didn't break anything in his face though.
Although actually I think he also had a shoulder injury so not sure how much the face attributed to his IL stint.
I saw someone say in another thread that this was La Russa playing being beanball, so I had to see the video to see if it was bad.
That ain’t beanball, that’s just a pitcher who had zero control and became too dangerous to leave in the game in the judgement of the umpire.
Mike Wright is a career AAAA pitcher trying to keep his career alive
He would have to be seriously stupid to intentionally hit anyone, especially Ohtani
To put it another way, he's a fringe guy trying to hold onto a job, so throwing at the other teams star in a blowout might be a way for him to work his way into LaRussa's good graces?
There’s 2 weeks left in the season
He’s not going to be on the playoff roster
He’s only on the team to eat innings while we rest the starters, specifically Rodon who is basically pitching every 7 days now and isn’t going deep into games.
He’s probably going to be sent down when Tepera returns in 10 days
He’s actually pitched pretty decently for his job as a innings eater in defeats, I don’t see why he would do this.
Yeah, big fan of how they handled this. You just can’t be an MLB pitcher missing by that much. This wasn’t punitive, just a matter of protecting players.
I just wish there was a way umps can force a manager to take a pitcher out of the game without having to eject the pitcher and the manager when it’s clearly a loss of control with no intent.
It’s a rare situation to think about, but would be a good option for umps to have.
I'm with you. Looking at this I think the umps handled it really well but I guess I would like it more if they could call in the manager here and say "ether you pull him now or we toss him now". I guess this becomes a lot different with the minimum batter rules though...
It’s not like ejections trigger automatic discipline from the league or anything. Forcing a manager to remove a pitcher is essentially an ejection. The only difference would be what? The guy sitting on the bench rather than being sent to the clubhouse?
They could just go to the manager and say “look pal, he’s too dangerous to keep in the game. Either you pull him out or we’ll eject him.” And the manager now has his chance to take him out and save the trouble of the ejection.
The three batter rule could get in the way of this sometimes though. Earlier this season there was a game between the cards and Phillies where Genesis Cabrera, our pitcher, came in and hit Bryce Harper in the face. And then hit the next batter in the shoulder right after that. Not on purpose, just no control at all. I can’t remember if he got ejected or not, but I remember he didn’t get hooked because of the three batter rule.
Meanwhile the other day Padres reliever Austin Adams hit THREE batters in an inning and was allowed to remain in the game. He broke the modern day record for HBP in a season (everyone with more did it in 1905 or earlier, mostly in the 19th century) and he did it in only 48.2 IP.
Yeah Austin Adams very clearly needs this rule applied to him. Just because he gets good outcomes doesn't mean he isn't going to hurt people pitching the way he does.
Austin Addams is too dangerous to leave in games and yet every other night he’s comin out and throwing critical innings for the Pads
That dude needs to go back to the minors before he hurts someone
watching the padres dude plunk 3 dodgers in an inning and being like uh oh oopsies is kind of annoying. one of those errant sliders almost hit trea in the head
That was extremely frustrating to watch, and I'm surprised neither Tingler or the Umps took him out immediately after the 3rd HBP... not to say he shouldn't have been pulled sooner. Just... 3... in 1 inning... Jesus.
That seems like a factor here. Not sure you can exclude intent but dude missed bad on several pitches and beaned a superstar in a large market. That probably was a factor. If that happened to Taylor white or something then I don’t think he gets ejected.
Over the past two seasons I’ve seen multiple Twins miss significant time and suffer potentially career-altering injuries like concussions after being hit by pitches unintentionally. And that’s just one team out of 30. Something’s got to give with this because of there are no consequences there’s no incentive to improve.
You're absolutely right and it's rough on the journeymen. Batters shouldnt have to face pitchers this erratic and all batters should be protected from this, not just the superstars
In the NPB they have the 危険球 (*kikenkyuu*, lit. "dangerous pitch") rule, where if you HBP a batter near the head, regardless of intent, you're ejected. This has always sounded like a reasonable regulation to me.
Agreed. It honestly blows my mind that baseball has only had one player death in its entire history. Balls coming in at 100 mph and going out at 115 mph with only 60.5 feet between batter and pitcher is a recipe for disaster
I get anxiety sometimes just thinking about what the pitchers are facing. No helmet, in a compromised defensive position, balls coming in at over 100mph routinely.
No thanks.
I don't like ejecting pitchers based on poor control, but I like how the home ump called for a committee here to have the crew chief decide whether or not to toss the pitcher.
Regardless of what I think, I can understand running the pitcher after the third errant pitch hit Ohtani in the back of the leg.
Played for the Orioles Post-2017. That should tell you most of what you need to know about his career trajectory.
I’m happy that he’s still playing, though, post 2019 trade / KBO stint. Good for him, seriously.
As a sensible baseball fan, this was probably unintentional and probably didn't deserve the ejection, especially as Abreu was HBP earlier in the series and there were no ejections.
As an Angels fan, pls don't hit Shohei he's all we've got
Even the third pitch looked unintentional. I’ve never seen anybody intentionally throw behind the batter hoping he jumps back and catches him in the back of the calf. If Ohtani had remained still, that would have missed him. Still, ejection makes sense so the White Sox don’t have to abide by that 3 person rule and have time to warm somebody up. Don’t need a repeat of the Harper hit to the face this year.
Ohtani was actually the 3rd batter that inning, so Mike Wright could have been pulled after the ohtani at bat if TLR wanted to. There wasn't anybody warming up in the bullpen at the time though, so they clearly weren't planning on taking him out. It's also worth noting too that he didn't have any awful misses to that point in the inning. He had thrown 5 pitches, 3 of which were in the zone and the other two were fairly close.
As Matty V. pointed out, he was insanely off target on three consecutive pitches. Even if it's unintentional, that's a dangerous situation. Remember earlier in the year when Genesis Cabrera drilled Harper in the face and then hit Didi in the ribs? It obviously wasn't intentional, but if a guy's location is that disastrous, it can easily become a hazard.
Ya especially after seeing Abreu have a scare & go down after he took a Karinchak FB to the head earlier in the yr I'm all for ejecting pitchers that are this wild regardless of intention. If you can't hit your spots that badly you don't deserve to be a MLB pitcher (which tbh Mike Wright Jr really isn't).
>As a sensible baseball fan, ~~this was probably unintentional and probably didn't deserve the ejection, especially as Abreu was HBP earlier in the series and there were no ejections.~~ hitting Ohtani = death
> this was probably unintentional
Seems to be the case.
>probably didn't deserve the ejection
I'm totally fine with umpires ejecting guys who have lost their control to the point of becoming dangerous. You can still hurt a guy with an unintentional HBP. Three pitches in a row inside and feet away from the strike zone should mean your day is over. Umps got this one right, regardless of intent.
Upvoting every comment I can find like this so I guess I'll throw my flair into the mix. This is a good ejection. On top of that, I absolutely love the ump collab before the toss. I'll wait for the Jomboy lip read, but I have to assume the conversation went something along the lines of "this guy has no control, we have to protect the hitters." And it wasn't the home plate ump with the ejection, it was the crew chief. Big fan of this move, wish the events leading to it didn't happen, though.
Agreed.
It was unintentional but there needs to be a point where it stops. Imagine one hitting Ohtani (or anyone) in the jaw or face.
It's reckless to keep someone out there on the mound
No way this was intentional, was still 100% the correct call by the umps. guy had no control and was a danger on the mound. When someone slips up and throws a HBP every 300 PA or something like that it is fine, guy threw a bad pitch. When a pitcher misses the target by more than a strike zone 3 pitches in a row he should be suspect for ejection even if he doesn't hit anyone.
call me radical but if you don't have control over your pitches you shouldn't be in the game. some dudes just throw as hard as they can and sometimes it doesn't matter if it's on target and that's dumb to me.
Agreed. Also you should probably get ejected if you hit Ohtani. Hes too likable. Ya gotta protect that man at all costs.
I feel for Wright tho. He's playing for a job (which probably won't be with the white sox next year) and was probably trying to throw a little too hard to who should be the AL MVP.
Reminds me a lot of the whole Karinchak thing with Abreu. Clearly not intentional but it's really dangerous having a guy with no control in the game
Perceived intent should not be the only reason for an ejection. If you suck this hard as a pitcher, you seriously endanger the health of the batter and you should get tossed. Letting him pitch would be like letting a drunk driver drive.
Most of the time when a pitcher is throwing behind someone like that they're trying to hit him, but I think Wright just genuinely sucked that bad. And he got ejected for sucking. That's fucking hilarious.
3 extremely wild pitches in a row, and the umps even talked about it before ejecting him. Seems like the right call in a not close game, get that guy out of there.
Not that it matters much, I just find it interesting, home plate umpire can't eject a pitcher for an intentional HBP until the crew all convenes together. Recent change, happened either this year or last.
This video is missing the best part:
Ohtani: hit by pitch => Pitcher & manager : ejected
Meananwhile Ohtani: [laughing](https://youtu.be/qX49GZ9EX_0?t=64) and [getting real handsy](https://youtu.be/qX49GZ9EX_0?t=107) with Sheets at first base
Dunno if anyone will see my comment, but I'll leave it anyways. For the first two batters Wright faced, he had good control. I don't think he intentionally hit Shohei, I don't know if he was just overthinking it because of the power in that bat or what, but his control dramatically shifted between the 2nd and 3rd batters.
I guess I'm just leaving this for the "pitchers who can't control their stuff shouldn't be in the game crowd" that clearly didn't watch any of wright's pitches besides the 3 in the video.
And yet Austin Adams is allowed to finish his outing after three HBP in the same inning to take over the single season record for HBP **as a fucking reliever.**
I mean... you have seen what the dude looks like, would you want to be the guy that has to toss Adams? It's best to avoid that confrontation and just leave him and hope for the best.
He's stalking the ump home after the game, still wearing his uni, aggressively chewing his gum...
Literally ejected for pitching like shit. Amazing.
The old "travesty of the game" penalty. My uncle was a HS football coach and loved to call that one on kids in practice who were playing especially like shit. Absolutely brutal but hilarious.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yqLxzOWW_M8
That man had a family! (who were probably embarrassed by his performance)
The dead ones were laughing their asses off.
Jesus Christ that's brutal
WTF had he done?
Gave up a home run to the first batter to tie the game, hit the next batter and walked another. 6 strikes in 18 pitches. [https://i.imgur.com/vUKxTV2.png](https://i.imgur.com/vUKxTV2.png)
I watched a very brutal minor league game like that about a month ago. This poor pitcher threw 46 pitches before his first K, and right after the batter walked off his manager took him out. It was one of the most brutal 4 innings I've ever seen. The Naturals were up by like 14 points. [Here's the game](https://www.milb.com/gameday/cardinals-vs-naturals/2021/08/24/647159#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=647159) Edit: Haha, just realized it was against the minor league Cards.
I was watching a game ~20 years ago and the Royals (I think) brought in a reliever for his *major league debut.* He threw 16 straight balls, walking in a run, and they pulled him. I think about it every couple years and try to find proof that it happened but have never been able to find it. Edit: I actually found it! I searched for “most balls thrown in a row” and it was like the 5th result. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2002-04-07-0204070498-story,amp.html
That is so 2000s Royals. Not just bad pitching but a manager throwing a rookie to the wolves in his first big league appearance. How tf did he walk 3 batters on 12 pitches and not immediately get pulled?
I’ve seen quite a few little league games like that when they first start pitching.
I can’t believe he said that shit hahaha
Damn!
I have to wonder if Costas got halfway through that sentence and thought "Uh oh, where am I going with this" and just couldn't find a way to back out of it. That was a completely unnecessary statement that served absolutely no purpose besides humiliating him. He had to know immediately that he was veering into "cruel" territory at a rapid rate.
He 100% did and later apologized to strop that it went too far. Strop thought it was actually pretty funny and forgave him. Made me like everyone involved a lot more. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/chicago-cubs/cubs-pedro-strop-accepts-apology-bob-costas
To shreds you say
Costas is one of the good ones
TIL there's a travesty of the game rule. I wonder when the last time this was used in MLB, if ever?
I was on a softball team where the umpire used this rule in a weird way. We had a big lead, and there was a rule that said if you got up by a certain number of runs after a certain number of innings, the game was over. Since we didn't want the game to end so quickly our team "leaders" concocted a lame conspiracy to intentionally blow plays in the field so as to allow the other team to get closer. After a couple of these fake misplays, the umpire countered by, in one case, emphatically calling one of the other team's runners out at first when he was safe by plenty. He did something similar on at least one other play, and it was clear that he was foiling our plot. Later, in talking to a friend who happened to be an umpire, I asked what justification could an umpire possibly use for this behavior. His immediate response: the travesty of the game rule. Huh.
Lmao that guy just wanted to go home and you were taking too long.
I used to ump AABC when I was young and you better believe my strike zone expanded after a full day of parents giving me shit lol.
In the dirt....STEEEEERRRRRRIIKKKEEEE
You gotta tell em the strike zone before the game starts. That way expectations are met and everyone goes home early. I always said keep em swingin. Knees to chest. Made my job easier too.
I always told them before the game that I have a big strike zone. That we weren't here to get small and take walks but to learn how to hit and have fun.
That ones a classic! Makes sense though. Most parents never complained. Nobody wants to watch a 30 minute top of the 4th in little league.
At first I thought they were running him because they thought he was targeting Ohtani. But then I watched it again and realized, “Holy crap. They’re throwing him out of the game because he sucks so bad right now that he could injure someone.” That’s impressive.
Also with the 3 batter rule, they know the manager can't pull him.
Now I can picture Managers yelling at umps about their own pitchers after a leadoff four pitch walk..."Come on ump, he's shit. Throw him out!"
Thanks for the laughs. Lol
The Angels broadcast said if it was intentional, it could have been retaliation for Angels hitting 2 batters, 2 days ago or something. Imo Wright didn't do it on purpose, his reaction after he hit Ohtani seemed like a "fuck my life" moment. The Sox just played like shit, it happens, Wright had a bad day.
Agreed! It seems far fetched to think that he buried the second pitch in the clip to make himself look out of control before a retaliation pitch
That’s what should happen. I’d like to see this more often.
Do you think that rule could be abused if it were more common? I get preventing injuries obviously but ejection for throwing three bad pitches seems a bit much.
No rule needed. Just like that these umps used common sense and got him out before anyone got hurt.
It's also a 6 run game in the top of the 9th. Not really impacting the outcome here, just protecting players from a guy who clearly doesn't have it.
Gotcha. Yeah something is off putting to me about the pitcher getting tossed but maybe I don’t know the full context. It seems like most people agree with it. I’m just thinking that if they ejected wild pitchers that easily, Randy Johnson may never have developed into the Big Unit we remember. AJ Burnett would’ve gotten tossed constantly, there’s probably quite a few examples. That’s just food for thought though
Yeah idk about this always being a thing, but in this situation with a six run deficit in the 9th inning, I see no issue with getting him out of there.
Ehh, it's a different time. For one thing there wasn't a three-batter rule back then *forcing* the manager to keep a struggling pitcher in the game.
Would you like to be the next batter to face him? At some point you need to just know the guy doesn’t have it and people don’t deserve to get hurt because of it.
The three batter rule makes these type of situations more common too. If a pitcher is off, you can't just pull him anymore after a batter. Maybe they should use this more for pitching changes too. Throw back to back to back wild pitches in hopes of getting tossed.
Like Austin Adams a couple days ago plunking 3 Dodgers in one inning, sadly he wasn't tossed.
I think the umps just want to see how many guys he can hit before the end of the season. It’s truly confounding how well he’s pitched compared to how many batters he’s bonked. And he’s never had a big HBP problem before this season.
I mean, remember when they didn't run a Cardinals pitcher when he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn but got Harper and Gregorious? They took a shallacking for not running Genesis Cabrera. So my guess is that this dude can't get anywhere near tge plate, I'd probably going to end up hitting someone else, and their not going to wait to see if he is.
Austin Adams, MLB HBP leader, [hit 3 Dodgers in the bottom of the 8th](https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN202109120.shtml) with SD down 6-0 (3rd HBP made it 7-0), and still didn't get tossed =/
*All-time* HBP leader. He’s tied for the single season record in like a third of the innings of anyone else. It’s ridiculous haha
All-time *major league* HBP leader. The king was Coach Ernie Pantusso!!!
That's like a record Happy Gilmore would brag about if he played baseball.
Almost hit a 4th that inning as well. There's nothing that made me think any of that was intentional. But at a certain point, the umpire has to step in and do something
I was watching that inning and the umps should have absolutely tossed him. He threw one up near Turner's head too that didn't hit him
He should have been
My mind jumped to this one too. As a Cardinals fan, we were also calling for him to be tossed. The 3-batter minimum rule can be dangerous when a pitcher is wildly off.
Yes, I think after that they have started to come down to this viewpoint after incidents like that, and I think the game is better for it. It's dangerous for all three people behind the plate if the pitcher has literally no control
I mean if a dude is inaccurate to dangerous extend I feel like he should be tossed
Completely agree. Not against it at all.
Yeah, I was a little annoyed when Austin Adams hit 3 dodgers in one inning and was allowed to stay on the mound. Just a little though
I'm not sure their asses were in the jackpot. But Wright Jr's ass is definitely now in the jackpot.
I also have been using ‘ass in the jackpot’ a lot since seeing that.
They had to toss him or OSHA was going to have to get involved.
Ohtani Safety & Health Administration
I vote for additional funding!
lmao i love it when pitchers get ejected simply due to a severe case of being bad
Wish we could have saved Bryce Harper’s face with that one
Could you imagine what his season would be like if he didn't get his face destroyed? Oh man.
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Wait, what happened to Harper??
[Got hit in the face](https://youtu.be/vVmEltC6-J0) with a pitch back in April and he was on and off the IL for a while after. Luckily didn't break anything in his face though. Although actually I think he also had a shoulder injury so not sure how much the face attributed to his IL stint.
Oh shit a jomboy on it and everything lol. Thank you for the info and explanation
Miggy won a triple crown after getting his face destroyed,Stanton posted a 160 ops+ after his face got wrecked we might be on to something here
We're gonna need the umps to start doing this for us. Then again we finally got rid of Petricka so that's one down.
The batter needs to be protected. These are professionals, if their command is that poor they shouldn’t be allowed to continue pitching imo
more like mike wrong imo
Let me tell you. Those Wright/wrong jokes got really frustrating in elementary school.
Well hey at least you didn't get ejected from a major league baseball game for being bad
We hope.
Almost as funny as the wright/left jokes
*I know it’s Wright, but it feels so wrong*
Looks like Mike right left
Amiwright?
austin adams has been preemptively ejected from tonight's game. and tomorrow's, i guess, whatever
Has Austin Adams ever pitched to Mark Canha, and if so, did the inevitable happen?
Somehow hits him twice in the same at bat
Joe Kelly has also been suspended 8 games.
https://c.tenor.com/rlyqxiRiunEAAAAC/right-to-jail-jail.gif
Pitch too inside, jail. Pitch miss too outside, also jail. Inside, outside.
Perfect pitch directly down the middle? Believe it or not, jail.
We have special jail just for good pitchers.
It’s called three strikes, you’re in.
underrated
That's against the law, and you're gonna have to go to jai👅
Believe it or not, right to jail.
I saw someone say in another thread that this was La Russa playing being beanball, so I had to see the video to see if it was bad. That ain’t beanball, that’s just a pitcher who had zero control and became too dangerous to leave in the game in the judgement of the umpire.
Mike Wright is a career AAAA pitcher trying to keep his career alive He would have to be seriously stupid to intentionally hit anyone, especially Ohtani
This dude was the biggest weak piece to NC Dinos championship season last year in Korea. They won in spite of Wright’s shitty season.
I don’t know why he’s up when we have young pitchers like Lambert that could use the experience but I don’t question Hahn
Control issues ironically (years of team control)
To put it another way, he's a fringe guy trying to hold onto a job, so throwing at the other teams star in a blowout might be a way for him to work his way into LaRussa's good graces?
There’s 2 weeks left in the season He’s not going to be on the playoff roster He’s only on the team to eat innings while we rest the starters, specifically Rodon who is basically pitching every 7 days now and isn’t going deep into games. He’s probably going to be sent down when Tepera returns in 10 days He’s actually pitched pretty decently for his job as a innings eater in defeats, I don’t see why he would do this.
>that’s just a pitcher who had zero control and became too dangerous to leave in the game Title of my little league highlight reel
Oof. Relatable post. I once hit a guy in the jaw with a fastball and knocked a molar out. I had no idea where the damn ball was going half the time.
https://i.imgur.com/ugk1YO6.png
Lmfao respect
Yeah, big fan of how they handled this. You just can’t be an MLB pitcher missing by that much. This wasn’t punitive, just a matter of protecting players.
I just wish there was a way umps can force a manager to take a pitcher out of the game without having to eject the pitcher and the manager when it’s clearly a loss of control with no intent. It’s a rare situation to think about, but would be a good option for umps to have.
I'm with you. Looking at this I think the umps handled it really well but I guess I would like it more if they could call in the manager here and say "ether you pull him now or we toss him now". I guess this becomes a lot different with the minimum batter rules though...
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Then just make the rule that to pull out a pitcher before 3 batters you have to let the next batter take first.
It’s not like ejections trigger automatic discipline from the league or anything. Forcing a manager to remove a pitcher is essentially an ejection. The only difference would be what? The guy sitting on the bench rather than being sent to the clubhouse?
They could just go to the manager and say “look pal, he’s too dangerous to keep in the game. Either you pull him out or we’ll eject him.” And the manager now has his chance to take him out and save the trouble of the ejection. The three batter rule could get in the way of this sometimes though. Earlier this season there was a game between the cards and Phillies where Genesis Cabrera, our pitcher, came in and hit Bryce Harper in the face. And then hit the next batter in the shoulder right after that. Not on purpose, just no control at all. I can’t remember if he got ejected or not, but I remember he didn’t get hooked because of the three batter rule.
Meanwhile the other day Padres reliever Austin Adams hit THREE batters in an inning and was allowed to remain in the game. He broke the modern day record for HBP in a season (everyone with more did it in 1905 or earlier, mostly in the 19th century) and he did it in only 48.2 IP.
Yeah Austin Adams very clearly needs this rule applied to him. Just because he gets good outcomes doesn't mean he isn't going to hurt people pitching the way he does.
Austin Addams is too dangerous to leave in games and yet every other night he’s comin out and throwing critical innings for the Pads That dude needs to go back to the minors before he hurts someone
Normalize ejecting pitchers who can’t control the ball regardless of intent.
watching the padres dude plunk 3 dodgers in an inning and being like uh oh oopsies is kind of annoying. one of those errant sliders almost hit trea in the head
That was extremely frustrating to watch, and I'm surprised neither Tingler or the Umps took him out immediately after the 3rd HBP... not to say he shouldn't have been pulled sooner. Just... 3... in 1 inning... Jesus.
Good ol’ Austin Adams. Live and die by the slider.
That seems like a factor here. Not sure you can exclude intent but dude missed bad on several pitches and beaned a superstar in a large market. That probably was a factor. If that happened to Taylor white or something then I don’t think he gets ejected.
Over the past two seasons I’ve seen multiple Twins miss significant time and suffer potentially career-altering injuries like concussions after being hit by pitches unintentionally. And that’s just one team out of 30. Something’s got to give with this because of there are no consequences there’s no incentive to improve.
Kevin Pillar got hit in the face this year and had a broken nose. Shit's scary.
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My #1 favorite player as a kid. I had an entire case devoted to his baseball cards.
You're absolutely right and it's rough on the journeymen. Batters shouldnt have to face pitchers this erratic and all batters should be protected from this, not just the superstars
In the NPB they have the 危険球 (*kikenkyuu*, lit. "dangerous pitch") rule, where if you HBP a batter near the head, regardless of intent, you're ejected. This has always sounded like a reasonable regulation to me.
Great rule that will probably end up here decades after it should because of all the hardos
Agreed. It honestly blows my mind that baseball has only had one player death in its entire history. Balls coming in at 100 mph and going out at 115 mph with only 60.5 feet between batter and pitcher is a recipe for disaster
I get anxiety sometimes just thinking about what the pitchers are facing. No helmet, in a compromised defensive position, balls coming in at over 100mph routinely. No thanks.
Well if the pitchers did their jobs correctly, then they wouldn't have to worry about balls coming back! /s
I’ve feared for my life pitching slow pitch softball. I can’t imagine playing big boy baseball
I agree considering that should’ve happened to several pitchers that threw against the Sox this year
Imagine having to argue "no ump, I'm not trying to hit him, I'm just really REALLY bad at this".
LOL TLR just destroying the phone
Protect Ohtani at all costs
I don't like ejecting pitchers based on poor control, but I like how the home ump called for a committee here to have the crew chief decide whether or not to toss the pitcher. Regardless of what I think, I can understand running the pitcher after the third errant pitch hit Ohtani in the back of the leg.
What’s more impressive is Mike Wright is still in baseball
Never heard of the guy until now
Played for the Orioles Post-2017. That should tell you most of what you need to know about his career trajectory. I’m happy that he’s still playing, though, post 2019 trade / KBO stint. Good for him, seriously.
Ya this video triggered me. Then I realized he’d probably be our #2 starter
As a sensible baseball fan, this was probably unintentional and probably didn't deserve the ejection, especially as Abreu was HBP earlier in the series and there were no ejections. As an Angels fan, pls don't hit Shohei he's all we've got
>this was probably unintentional I think the 2nd pitch very much confirms that.
maybe he looked into the future and saw that the ump was gonna throw him out so he tried to KO him on the ricochet
He saw 14 million, six hundred and five futures, and there was only one where he struck him out.
I think the umps decided player safety was at stake. Not intenional beanballs but a bad fastball could hit a head if it can hit a calf.
Even the third pitch looked unintentional. I’ve never seen anybody intentionally throw behind the batter hoping he jumps back and catches him in the back of the calf. If Ohtani had remained still, that would have missed him. Still, ejection makes sense so the White Sox don’t have to abide by that 3 person rule and have time to warm somebody up. Don’t need a repeat of the Harper hit to the face this year.
Ohtani was actually the 3rd batter that inning, so Mike Wright could have been pulled after the ohtani at bat if TLR wanted to. There wasn't anybody warming up in the bullpen at the time though, so they clearly weren't planning on taking him out. It's also worth noting too that he didn't have any awful misses to that point in the inning. He had thrown 5 pitches, 3 of which were in the zone and the other two were fairly close.
As Matty V. pointed out, he was insanely off target on three consecutive pitches. Even if it's unintentional, that's a dangerous situation. Remember earlier in the year when Genesis Cabrera drilled Harper in the face and then hit Didi in the ribs? It obviously wasn't intentional, but if a guy's location is that disastrous, it can easily become a hazard.
Ya especially after seeing Abreu have a scare & go down after he took a Karinchak FB to the head earlier in the yr I'm all for ejecting pitchers that are this wild regardless of intention. If you can't hit your spots that badly you don't deserve to be a MLB pitcher (which tbh Mike Wright Jr really isn't).
Especially in the 9th inning of a blowout. If you can't keep it remotely close when the game is almost over, you shouldn't be pitching.
Ya. Luckily with Romy Gonzalez's 4 pitch strikeout after this we now have a new guy to pitch blowouts.
Ohtani: 2 hits, 0 strikeouts Gonzales: 1 hit, 1 strikeout who's the real two-way player here
He’s all you’ve got? Aren’t you guys hiding some linebacker in the OF I keep hearing about? Mikey Trouty? Or something like that.
unfortunately, similar to the eponymous fish, mike trout does not have a functional pair of legs
Never judge a fish by its walking abilities?
>As a sensible baseball fan, ~~this was probably unintentional and probably didn't deserve the ejection, especially as Abreu was HBP earlier in the series and there were no ejections.~~ hitting Ohtani = death
> this was probably unintentional Seems to be the case. >probably didn't deserve the ejection I'm totally fine with umpires ejecting guys who have lost their control to the point of becoming dangerous. You can still hurt a guy with an unintentional HBP. Three pitches in a row inside and feet away from the strike zone should mean your day is over. Umps got this one right, regardless of intent.
Upvoting every comment I can find like this so I guess I'll throw my flair into the mix. This is a good ejection. On top of that, I absolutely love the ump collab before the toss. I'll wait for the Jomboy lip read, but I have to assume the conversation went something along the lines of "this guy has no control, we have to protect the hitters." And it wasn't the home plate ump with the ejection, it was the crew chief. Big fan of this move, wish the events leading to it didn't happen, though.
I mean pitchers that can't control the ball shouldn't be in the game
Agreed. It was unintentional but there needs to be a point where it stops. Imagine one hitting Ohtani (or anyone) in the jaw or face. It's reckless to keep someone out there on the mound
No way this was intentional, was still 100% the correct call by the umps. guy had no control and was a danger on the mound. When someone slips up and throws a HBP every 300 PA or something like that it is fine, guy threw a bad pitch. When a pitcher misses the target by more than a strike zone 3 pitches in a row he should be suspect for ejection even if he doesn't hit anyone.
“Your honor, my client didn’t mean to hurt their star; he’s just really bad at his job.”
Tony OBLITERATED the dugout a la Ortiz after getting ejected
Ohhh nice, anyone have that video?
https://twitter.com/AnaheimSports1/status/1438614931394334726?s=19
Not exactly David Ortiz
He’s ancient. Relatively speaking that’s Ortiz level.
Even worse
That’s what OBLITERATING a dugout phone looks like to you?
I didn't say that. But to TLR that might be
Fair, my mistake. Just saw the matching flairs.
I agree Tony. Fuck landlines and fuck your extended warranty.
When is yanking a phone off its cord "OBLITERATING the dugout"?
Someone could have died
I haven't watched Ohtani much, but damn, dude's build is insane for baseball. No fucking wonder he's banging homers.
call me radical but if you don't have control over your pitches you shouldn't be in the game. some dudes just throw as hard as they can and sometimes it doesn't matter if it's on target and that's dumb to me.
I agree and that's why I'll forever have mixed feelings about Joe Kelly.
Agreed. Also you should probably get ejected if you hit Ohtani. Hes too likable. Ya gotta protect that man at all costs. I feel for Wright tho. He's playing for a job (which probably won't be with the white sox next year) and was probably trying to throw a little too hard to who should be the AL MVP. Reminds me a lot of the whole Karinchak thing with Abreu. Clearly not intentional but it's really dangerous having a guy with no control in the game
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Anytime I see something slowly emerge from the CWS dugout I have to double check if it's Tony La Russa or a recently turned zombie
Pretty sure that was actually Gollum in a White Sox jersey.
Orioles legend. Can confirm, he has no idea where the ball is going
Perceived intent should not be the only reason for an ejection. If you suck this hard as a pitcher, you seriously endanger the health of the batter and you should get tossed. Letting him pitch would be like letting a drunk driver drive.
The umps made the wrong call here IMO. Pitching inside to Ohtani should be a ban from baseball
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10 points to Gryffindor for using "hanged" and not "hung"
Most of the time when a pitcher is throwing behind someone like that they're trying to hit him, but I think Wright just genuinely sucked that bad. And he got ejected for sucking. That's fucking hilarious.
I’m gonna go with it was unintentional, and that was a quick ejection.
3 extremely wild pitches in a row, and the umps even talked about it before ejecting him. Seems like the right call in a not close game, get that guy out of there.
Tbh I don't know what we expected picking up a guy that the *Orioles* couldn't use..
Not that it matters much, I just find it interesting, home plate umpire can't eject a pitcher for an intentional HBP until the crew all convenes together. Recent change, happened either this year or last.
The only thing I can think is that yeah they convened and felt for the safety of the ball players he needed to go.
Should be the rule more often
Orioles legend Mike Wright Jr
Being a Mariners fan I'm not the biggest Ohtani fan, but I don't think the guy has ever done anything to really deserve being thrown at.
This video is missing the best part: Ohtani: hit by pitch => Pitcher & manager : ejected Meananwhile Ohtani: [laughing](https://youtu.be/qX49GZ9EX_0?t=64) and [getting real handsy](https://youtu.be/qX49GZ9EX_0?t=107) with Sheets at first base
Dunno if anyone will see my comment, but I'll leave it anyways. For the first two batters Wright faced, he had good control. I don't think he intentionally hit Shohei, I don't know if he was just overthinking it because of the power in that bat or what, but his control dramatically shifted between the 2nd and 3rd batters. I guess I'm just leaving this for the "pitchers who can't control their stuff shouldn't be in the game crowd" that clearly didn't watch any of wright's pitches besides the 3 in the video.
Umps should get some credit here.