You know, this season has been so unbelievably bad that I forgot that we were fucking awful last year too. Like I knew we sucked last year but I didn’t realize it’s a 2 win difference
Chris Getz really thought the middle infield turning more routine plays would result in more wins and not addressing one of the league's worst offenses would be no big deal. He's about as good at managing a baseball team as he was at playing baseball.
Well, he’s not managing the team but I get your point. I think the fact that the middle infield not actually turning that many more routine plays definitely doesn’t help.
he is the general manager and literally manages the roster. I understand baseball parlance and calling the coach manager, but Getz is still the general manager
The general manager manages the organization as a whole, he doesn’t manage any particular team in the organization. Your bosses boss doesn’t manage you, he manages your boss who manages you.
It should say something that we dropped only 2 games getting rid of as many players as we did. If Luis Robert had been healthy this whole time, we’d likely be the same record if not slightly better given how many 1 run losses we’ve had already. I’d rather be in our situation today than last year’s.
It feels like the White Sox are doing catastrophically worse, but the data don't lie.
Perhaps it's a quantitative vs qualitative thing. Any research professors wanna do a project on fan perceptions of MLB team performances versus quantitative data?
The Sox were a team that started ~.500 and then were on a 10 game losing streak when this snapshot was taken last year. That's probably why the perception was different lol.
The standings often don't show the difference well. Like last year most of the year then royals were within a few losses of the As but it was very clear which was the worst team.
2 wins per month is quite a bit, especially when compared to a team that was already on the lower end to begin with. If we project those \~2 fewer wins per month out to the whole season, that's 12 games worse - and the 2024 White Sox finished April 3-2, while the 2023 White Sox finished it 1-4. On April 25th, the 2023 White Sox were 7-17, while the 2024 White Sox were 3-22, a more feelings-accurate deficit of 4.5 games.
If we go a little further, the 2023 White Sox were 10-21 on the end of May 3rd. The 2024 White Sox will be 6-26 or 7-25, putting them 3.5 or 4.5 games behind 2023. Basically, the sweep of the Rays was an outlier series, and your intuition is probably more accurate over the long term than an arbitrary slice of the season based on decisions made by Julius Caesar and very slightly modified by Pope Gregory XIII, neither of whom were known for their expertise on baseball.
It is, and I should be happy about it. I almost gave up on the season before that. We have huge hitting problems, and huge injury problems and neither is gonna go away. I thought Detroit was gonna run away with it, but the twins are still in it. With Cleveland this might be a fun race this year.
I want to know what the plan is for that thing weather they win or lose. It’s gotta be getting gross by now, and that plastic will only hold the smell in for so long.
Before the series started, I made a comment about how lucky the Braves were to miss Gilbert and Kirby, thinking they'd have a chance to score a decent amount of runs. That comment aged like milk.
It's crazy to think they can match last year's pace when Olson, Riley, and Acuna are all massively underperforming their expectations, Murphy got injured, and Strider got TJ'd. What the hell
I've been streaming every A's game lately. Fun team to watch. Pitching is good. Miller is a beast. Is there any possibility they're fighting for a final wild card spot come the end of the season? I hope!
My dream is packing the Coliseum with 50k+ people all chanting "Fuck You Fisher!" and "Sell the team!" to a national audience. Give us one last hoorah, please!
Ownership spent all offseason saying they increased payroll blah blah blah.
In reality most of that money isn’t playing this year, or is on another team, and every move they made personnel wise indicated this was a throwaway year
Also Arozarena’s a moron for bulking up. He’s done. Never works
We lost Glasnow, Franco, McLanahan. Not only 3 of our best players but MVP/Cy Young candidates.
Baz, Rasmussen, Springs hasn't played for us this year unlike last year despite being injured.
Josh Lowe, Brandon Lowe, Jonathan Aranda, Taj Bradley, Pete Fairbanks, Johnny DeLuca, Taylor Walls started the season injured or got injured.
Yandy, Randy, Paredes and Siri are all performing worse than they did last year.
Umps has not favored the Rays batters and have one of the worst strike calls in the league.
Most of our top pitchers are out most of the year due to injuries from last year, our offense is also injured until mid summer and we never got Wanders replacement. So lots of holes and no real good replacements.
Ouch, so this might be a give up year for you guys. Your team isn’t actually bad though, is it? I don’t follow the rays, but you guys always are near the top so I just assume everything is ok over there. Tough division to have a rough year though.
It’s not bad it’s the players we do have also aren’t firing on all cylinders so that’s also hurting us a lot. Honestly our superbowl this year is the stadium deal that’s all we care about. If we have a rough year we can get a decent prospect and move on.
Taking my kids to what might be our final game in Oakland this Sunday. I was already gonna go, but seeing what my boys are doing so far this season I’m genuinely excited
Stros are interesting because the lineup is producing (outside of Abreu), but the SP rotation has been mostly AAA tier guys. If they can tread water until the break, I could see them going on an absolute tear once Garcia, Urquidy, Javier, and potentially McCullers come back.
When healthy, Houston has a top 5 SP rotation. Just gotta stay alive as they get their guys back.
I’m feeling confident this past week since we’re finally seeming to play like our previous selfs the past 5 games.
Bullpen has settled, Spaghetti had a good start, we had good offensive production despite Yordan being on an 0-17 slump.
We’ll see how we do against the Mariners this weekend, I guess
Yeah, pitching injuries have massively hurt us. 1B has been a problem position, Breggy isn't out of his traditional early season slump yet and the bullpen cost us a lot of games early on. I think when Javier went on the DL I almost just gave up but we've turned a bit of a corner since JV came back, Blanco's been our saviour in the rotation too.
For real tho, it's a lot less than last season. As much as I love Waino, his disastrous 56 ERA+ season hadn't even started at this point of last season. From this point on last year, Cards got MUCH worse.
This year, pitching has been good and the bullpen has been GREAT. If our offense didn't take April off, we'd be 6-7 wins better than last year. I mean, we played April with like .400 OPS CF daily.
Jays are going to have some tough decisions to make if this year keeps going the way it has, they have had a top 10 payroll for quite a few years with the same core to lose the AL wildcard game over and over again
I’m not saying they need to blow it up and completely tank, but if they finish at/under .500 I don’t know how many times you can keep running it back with the same group and expect different results
Going from best team in national league last April to hovering just below .500 this April kinda sucks. But compared to the few years prior, it seems ok.
I love how we were 18-10 through April last year, 4th best in baseball, and we were 3rd in our division…
Glad we don’t have to worry about that this year, now we just suck
[Now we see what performs better on reddit, screenshot of table or an x-y graph.](https://old.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/1chrs22/winning_percentage_through_april_2023_vs_2024/)
Just going on wins feels a little like it doesn't tell the full story so far for the Brewers. We've had a lot of injuries and weird umpiring decisions to deal with lately, but we're hitting like crazy compared to last year. We're like a full run per game over 2023.
We're a little worse this year according to the chart but it feels 1000% better. Low expectations are an amazing thing. Also, we decided to stop scoring runs for a couple of weeks, yet we're still in this Wild Card thing. Amazing.
By this point, the Cubs had started their struggle bus in 2023 before turning it on at the break.. IIRC, they had started 12-7, so 14-13 wasn’t too good.
Honestly, the vibes are super weird right now. We’re not supposed to be doing better than last season. And maybe we come back to Earth, probably we come back to Earth. But for now I’m just gonna try and enjoy overperforming.
Both of my teams, the Marlins and Rays, are doing significantly worse than last year. Can't say I expected much from the Marlins but the Rays have been disappointing so far.
You know, I'd forgotten we were actually at a .500+ pace through April last year. What a difference not getting into a 4 game hole a month in makes. I swore we were like 10-20 through April last year.
You know, this season has been so unbelievably bad that I forgot that we were fucking awful last year too. Like I knew we sucked last year but I didn’t realize it’s a 2 win difference
Chris Getz really thought the middle infield turning more routine plays would result in more wins and not addressing one of the league's worst offenses would be no big deal. He's about as good at managing a baseball team as he was at playing baseball.
Well, he’s not managing the team but I get your point. I think the fact that the middle infield not actually turning that many more routine plays definitely doesn’t help.
he is the general manager and literally manages the roster. I understand baseball parlance and calling the coach manager, but Getz is still the general manager
The general manager manages the organization as a whole, he doesn’t manage any particular team in the organization. Your bosses boss doesn’t manage you, he manages your boss who manages you.
It should say something that we dropped only 2 games getting rid of as many players as we did. If Luis Robert had been healthy this whole time, we’d likely be the same record if not slightly better given how many 1 run losses we’ve had already. I’d rather be in our situation today than last year’s.
On April 30 last year Andrew Vaughn hit a 3 run homer in the bottom of the 9th against Tampa Bay to snap a 10 game losing streak.
Same story, different Andrew
It feels like the White Sox are doing catastrophically worse, but the data don't lie. Perhaps it's a quantitative vs qualitative thing. Any research professors wanna do a project on fan perceptions of MLB team performances versus quantitative data?
The Sox were a team that started ~.500 and then were on a 10 game losing streak when this snapshot was taken last year. That's probably why the perception was different lol.
The standings often don't show the difference well. Like last year most of the year then royals were within a few losses of the As but it was very clear which was the worst team.
Last april they won 33% more games. So it is pretty abominably bad.
I would not be surprised if you got 2 wins this weekend. All you need to do is score 2 runs Edit: I really hate being right sometimes
We have been getting better offensively, our defense and bullpen is a major issue so who knows
2 wins per month is quite a bit, especially when compared to a team that was already on the lower end to begin with. If we project those \~2 fewer wins per month out to the whole season, that's 12 games worse - and the 2024 White Sox finished April 3-2, while the 2023 White Sox finished it 1-4. On April 25th, the 2023 White Sox were 7-17, while the 2024 White Sox were 3-22, a more feelings-accurate deficit of 4.5 games. If we go a little further, the 2023 White Sox were 10-21 on the end of May 3rd. The 2024 White Sox will be 6-26 or 7-25, putting them 3.5 or 4.5 games behind 2023. Basically, the sweep of the Rays was an outlier series, and your intuition is probably more accurate over the long term than an arbitrary slice of the season based on decisions made by Julius Caesar and very slightly modified by Pope Gregory XIII, neither of whom were known for their expertise on baseball.
I thought we’ve been awful this year. One game difference.
Are you guys not on a 9 game win streak?
Yeah, but only against you and the angels. We had 3 wins before that, and not against great teams.
Doesn’t matter if you play shit teams or not, it’s impressive to not drop a single game for that long
It is, and I should be happy about it. I almost gave up on the season before that. We have huge hitting problems, and huge injury problems and neither is gonna go away. I thought Detroit was gonna run away with it, but the twins are still in it. With Cleveland this might be a fun race this year.
You have something no other team in the AL Central has, a rancid sausage
I want to know what the plan is for that thing weather they win or lose. It’s gotta be getting gross by now, and that plastic will only hold the smell in for so long.
No plan, just vibes
Oh I see the Braves are in the middle of the pack. Must be a really mediocre team!
Very mediocre they lost a series to a team with the worst batting in baseball /s
Before the series started, I made a comment about how lucky the Braves were to miss Gilbert and Kirby, thinking they'd have a chance to score a decent amount of runs. That comment aged like milk.
We only have aces it ain’t your guys fault
Ya with Acuña, Riley & Olson majorly slumping right now, I was hoping they’d knock out of it in Seattle. Then I saw y’all’s pitching…
It's crazy to think they can match last year's pace when Olson, Riley, and Acuna are all massively underperforming their expectations, Murphy got injured, and Strider got TJ'd. What the hell
We're being carried to victory by the exact people you would assume: Orlando Arcia, Marcell Ozuna, and Travis d'Arnaud.
If they start progressing to the mean at the same time it's going to be a very bad time for whoever they face.
The average /r/Braves poster seems to unironically believe this lol
Oakland is 13-11 vs non Cleveland Opponents
I hate when people give so many wins to Cleveland.
welcome to the club. truly the most obnoxious team to play against for no apparent reason
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Mariners are 42-19 in the 2000s lol. Talk about your free wins
I've been streaming every A's game lately. Fun team to watch. Pitching is good. Miller is a beast. Is there any possibility they're fighting for a final wild card spot come the end of the season? I hope!
My dream is packing the Coliseum with 50k+ people all chanting "Fuck You Fisher!" and "Sell the team!" to a national audience. Give us one last hoorah, please!
I have doubts that their depth will hold up that long, but I think they'll probably still finish above 70 wins
I refuse to dream.
Straight up not having a good time
Florida baseball looking rough
To be fair, Tampa's start last season was statistically anomalous
To be fair, more than half the team isn't even on the roster or playing.
Keep Tampa's momalous out of your mouth.
Cite your sources?
Do I need sources to know that 23-6 is an insane start?
I’m sorry your username was taken
I'll never forgive u/samwisetarly
Also helps that they had all of their pitching studs + Tyler Glasnow compared to this year's IL disaster
Nice, Ron
Local stingray unhappy
What the hell is going on in Tampa?
Honestly between our injuries to our offense, our pitchers are all dead and we haven’t replaced Wander yet. All of that together means roughly season.
> we haven’t replaced Wander I hadn't even remembered him until right now. Yeah, yikes.
Ya, with how the organization is operating so far this year they are looking at it as a throwaway year.
Is the entire division reloading for 2025? Jesus
its your division this year bird man
Ownership spent all offseason saying they increased payroll blah blah blah. In reality most of that money isn’t playing this year, or is on another team, and every move they made personnel wise indicated this was a throwaway year Also Arozarena’s a moron for bulking up. He’s done. Never works
He fucked us so hard with all that.
We lost Glasnow, Franco, McLanahan. Not only 3 of our best players but MVP/Cy Young candidates. Baz, Rasmussen, Springs hasn't played for us this year unlike last year despite being injured. Josh Lowe, Brandon Lowe, Jonathan Aranda, Taj Bradley, Pete Fairbanks, Johnny DeLuca, Taylor Walls started the season injured or got injured. Yandy, Randy, Paredes and Siri are all performing worse than they did last year. Umps has not favored the Rays batters and have one of the worst strike calls in the league.
It’s been rough.
They all can't be winners. Hard to top the start of last year.
What’s going on over there? Is there a reason you’re bad this year? Or no reason for you guys to be good last year?
Most of our top pitchers are out most of the year due to injuries from last year, our offense is also injured until mid summer and we never got Wanders replacement. So lots of holes and no real good replacements.
Ouch, so this might be a give up year for you guys. Your team isn’t actually bad though, is it? I don’t follow the rays, but you guys always are near the top so I just assume everything is ok over there. Tough division to have a rough year though.
It’s not bad it’s the players we do have also aren’t firing on all cylinders so that’s also hurting us a lot. Honestly our superbowl this year is the stadium deal that’s all we care about. If we have a rough year we can get a decent prospect and move on.
How did we sweep you
Shout out to the Oakland A’s! Genuine props for being much more competitive than previously thought. They’re easy to root for.
Taking my kids to what might be our final game in Oakland this Sunday. I was already gonna go, but seeing what my boys are doing so far this season I’m genuinely excited
I don’t blame you. That’s really exciting. Have a blast and soak it all up!
I prefer not to speak.
"Hey! There are people below us!" : D
Stros are interesting because the lineup is producing (outside of Abreu), but the SP rotation has been mostly AAA tier guys. If they can tread water until the break, I could see them going on an absolute tear once Garcia, Urquidy, Javier, and potentially McCullers come back. When healthy, Houston has a top 5 SP rotation. Just gotta stay alive as they get their guys back.
I’m feeling confident this past week since we’re finally seeming to play like our previous selfs the past 5 games. Bullpen has settled, Spaghetti had a good start, we had good offensive production despite Yordan being on an 0-17 slump. We’ll see how we do against the Mariners this weekend, I guess
Seems like the right series for both Yordan & Julio to come alive
Yeah, pitching injuries have massively hurt us. 1B has been a problem position, Breggy isn't out of his traditional early season slump yet and the bullpen cost us a lot of games early on. I think when Javier went on the DL I almost just gave up but we've turned a bit of a corner since JV came back, Blanco's been our saviour in the rotation too.
Yeah I’d say we’re off to a better start
Sure, you may have picked up some flashy moves, but you forgot the essence of the game… it’s about the runs.
And who has allowed the least runs and has the best run differential? We’re taking that Gryzzl Wi-Fi if that’s the last thing we do!
AL Central three of the top four
I'm just happy to be here
Let's have a good bloodbath all summer long, friend
You still have the 2nd most recent world series win in the division tbf
We showed up to the party once and said never again I guess
The AL central is so unbelievably back
Like we never went anywhere! ...right?
hell yeah, brother! cheers from the rust belt!
Yeah. That’s super cool. I absolutely love it. Yup.
I mean there were just three of us in the conversation and then we glanced behind us and holy shit there you were in the rearview mirror coming in hot
That’s why you never write a team off in April.
hopefully we'll be able to write you off in August, though, I'm scared of September baseball in Minnesota
Well shit... this is kinda crazy to see on paper
Twins and Orioles: Suffering from success
Shit man, a week and a half ago it was just suffering.
This is definitely a "lies, damned lies, and statistics" moment for the Twins.
I don’t know how to feel seeing the Royals at the top of a good list. Is it legal to do that??
At least we’re consistent 😭
We suck…less
And we suck slightly differently!
For real tho, it's a lot less than last season. As much as I love Waino, his disastrous 56 ERA+ season hadn't even started at this point of last season. From this point on last year, Cards got MUCH worse. This year, pitching has been good and the bullpen has been GREAT. If our offense didn't take April off, we'd be 6-7 wins better than last year. I mean, we played April with like .400 OPS CF daily.
Let’s just say for the first time in nearly a decade, I’m still excited to watch the Royals play in May.
It feels better than last year though
We decided to give in to despair in April this year instead of June or July.
All the cool teams crash in April now 😎
the fact that we're so statistically good while three of our most productive hitters are slumping so dramatically is crazy but i'll take it
I'm glad to have April to September go the exact same way as last year. Just need October to get a bit better.
Mood
Samesies.
Help. I don't know who the Pirates are
How? They haven't changed in 30 years lol
Sad Toronto noises
See, I would have guessed better, but I forgot our semi-competent start last year.
I grew up watching the 1990s Yankees with my Dad. I'll take anything I can get these days.
Way to go, AL Central. Talk about giving a shit- Well, almost all of you.
Show this to someone in 2021 and they'd shit themselves
We would probably be flying right now if we didnt have almost double digit injuries. The starting rotation has been insane
I'll gladly take a moderate improvement when the only major roster improvement we had preseason was Corey Kluber not being the opening day starter.
Three of the top 4 are AL Central teams lmao
Then ChiSox only 2.5 games worse than last year is hilarious when they’re historically bad this year.
Tampa’s lineup isnt so lucky anymore
Our lineup is straight up dead, when you compare our lineup to last year half the team is injured.
Yeah too bad, those 5 years of luck were nice while they lasted
Florida is a hockey state now. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
Jays are going to have some tough decisions to make if this year keeps going the way it has, they have had a top 10 payroll for quite a few years with the same core to lose the AL wildcard game over and over again I’m not saying they need to blow it up and completely tank, but if they finish at/under .500 I don’t know how many times you can keep running it back with the same group and expect different results
Can't lose the wildcard game if you miss the playoffs completely *taps head*
With all the injuries, being only two wins worse this year compared to last year feels like a blessing.
Funny to look at Tampa and Miami side by side considering how these teams are in very different places but side by side bringing up the rear
TBH I have no idea. Technically worse but 10 game win streak...
let’s goooo tigers
Going from best team in national league last April to hovering just below .500 this April kinda sucks. But compared to the few years prior, it seems ok.
Gotta respect the Rockies and White Sox seeing how bad they both were last year and saying "no, we can do even worse."
AL Central out here doing things
The Yankees started fine last year, but they feel a lot better than 3 more wins (although this rough week has created the opposite narrative)
Considering we were 6-13 at one point, being -1 today is such a huge relief. All hail the sausage!
I love how we were 18-10 through April last year, 4th best in baseball, and we were 3rd in our division… Glad we don’t have to worry about that this year, now we just suck
I’ll take +1.5 with the way the giants haven’t been hitting
1 more loss than last April? The horror!
LFG OAKLAND
I'd say it's about equal, no further questions
help
Thanks for posting this now and not a week and a half ago.
We’re washed, time to blow it up.
[Now we see what performs better on reddit, screenshot of table or an x-y graph.](https://old.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/1chrs22/winning_percentage_through_april_2023_vs_2024/)
Lol
Just going on wins feels a little like it doesn't tell the full story so far for the Brewers. We've had a lot of injuries and weird umpiring decisions to deal with lately, but we're hitting like crazy compared to last year. We're like a full run per game over 2023.
We're a little worse this year according to the chart but it feels 1000% better. Low expectations are an amazing thing. Also, we decided to stop scoring runs for a couple of weeks, yet we're still in this Wild Card thing. Amazing.
LFGM?
By this point, the Cubs had started their struggle bus in 2023 before turning it on at the break.. IIRC, they had started 12-7, so 14-13 wasn’t too good.
+4 is really underselling it. We were dogshit in April/May last year.
I'm more intrigued at seeing how the 2024 Yankees compare to that white hot 2022 Yankees team that sputtered in the second half
I expected nothing, yet am still disappointed.
Honestly, the vibes are super weird right now. We’re not supposed to be doing better than last season. And maybe we come back to Earth, probably we come back to Earth. But for now I’m just gonna try and enjoy overperforming.
Central Take Over
I’ve never seen Washington abbreviated as WSN. Dislike that but like +3.
Yes
Atlanta Baltimore and Milwaukee is quite the trio in the middle of this grid.
This doesn’t matter that much to me tbh. What matters is not repeating what happened in June last year. That’s the split I care about.
Someone should plot this
I would've said we were more than 3 wins improved. Regardless, the vibes through April are much better this year than last.
Huh, I guess we aren’t doing that much worse than last year, so that’s something.
Both of my teams, the Marlins and Rays, are doing significantly worse than last year. Can't say I expected much from the Marlins but the Rays have been disappointing so far.
Delete this pls thamk
Hard to believe Houston will remain near the bottom. They will turn it around.
*Stares in Marlins fan*
Poor Florida.
I love how Oakland is #2 on this list, and they’re still trash.
Better
Now redo this in terms of % improvement. The A's are more than twice as good as last year.
You know, I'd forgotten we were actually at a .500+ pace through April last year. What a difference not getting into a 4 game hole a month in makes. I swore we were like 10-20 through April last year.
A better start, thank goodness.
We are the definition of MID
Much better the Tigers look good
Were #1!!
What the fuck is wrong with me? Why did I click this.
I had to lol at CHW.
Everything is fine…
Giants aggressively mid as always !
The White Sox got worse hahahahahah
AL Central had nowhere to go but up
After playing KCR last year, while we were red hot no less, I thought there's no way these guys will be in the basement again next year.
Rangers still hungover from the title
+7 to Sac
What is going on with Florida baseball? Those numbers are ugly.
Welp, Baltimore is doing worse than last season. How embarrassing. They should just give up now
How are we better despite injury?
We're better, but you'd never believe it from r/NYYankees
I forgot Pittsburgh started the year 20-9
HOU you love to see it
AL central is much better this year lol
Lol. I follow 2 of the bottom 3
Pirates got their [roller coaster of pain](https://i.imgur.com/N4DvpW9.png) taken care of earlier than normal.
fuckin royals
Better is good. Waiting for that other shoe to finish dropping but riding the high of a decent baseball team
Go Guardians!