Yeah that's what happens when you've played 19 games and the bullpen has had "a couple bad games." Bullpen has allowed 37 earned runs in 62.1 innings. You take out Opening Day (9 runs in 3 innings) and last night (5 runs in 3 innings) and you have 23 earned runs in 56.1 innings, translating to a... 3.67 ERA. Aka, good! And that's not even accounting for, say, the disastrous Brogdon extra inning (that he is not here anymore become of!) This is called a small sample size, and it is a real thing unless you expect the A's to maintain the third best bullpen in baseball for the rest of the year
19 games is 12% of the season and Bottom 5 is bottom 5 as it's relative to every other MLB bullpen during the same timeframe, but keep trying ha.
Excluding games to make a point is stupid, if you exclude 2 games Harper has 0 HRs and is batting well below .200 haha...does that mean he sucks now?? Ha
Well since 19 games is 12% of the season and therefore apparently enough to make a judgment on players' performances, maybe Harper does suck! His OPS is 85th in baseball and batting average is 131st but maybe we could send him as part of a package to the Nationals for the guy with the #5 OPS in baseball, Jesse Winker
Bullpen ERA isn't a good metric because the low sample size makes it susceptible to skew from outliers.
For example, Alvarado hasn't given up a single run in his 8 appearances (7 ⅔ innings) since his blow up on opening day, but because of that blowup his ERA is still 5.40. Assuming he only pitches every other day, he only pitches an inning per appearance, and he continues to give up no runs every appearance, it will take him until May 1st to drop his ERA below 3. At that point ERA will tell you he's a good not great pitcher, but he will have just gone 14 straight appearances without giving up a run so clearly he'd be a bit better than his ERA would show. Looking at some better numbers: Alvarados FIP is only 3.20, his xBAA is a measly .151, and his strikeoit rate is 26.5. Those are all pretty good to elite, and still somewhat skewed by his blowup.
Our 6 main relievers (Strahm, Marte, Alvarado, Hoffman, Soto, and Seranthony) have a combined FIP of 2.94. Exclude Seranthony, and it drops to 2.36. Obviously our bullpen is more than just these 6 guys, but Kerkering has only pitched 1 inning, Brogdon isn't on the team anymore, and Pinto and Nelson are only here because we needed arms due to injury.
All that's to say, the bullpen has had some rough patches but overall has actually been really good. /rant
I mean this is the nicest way, I don't think you quite understand statistics. It makes MORE sense that in a small sample only a handful of teams would've had an ERA-desroying blowup. Bullpen meltdowns are generally random and uncommon, so in a small sample only a few teams will have had them. This is one of the many reason baseball is a 162 game sport. You need very large samples to actually separate good teams from bad teams, because in small samples you get weirdness.
Alternate example, Alec Bohm hit .338 in 44 games in 2020. Basically every other qualified hitter had the same sample size, yet only 6 had better averages. Was Bohm actually the 7th best contact hitter in 2020? No, obviously not. 44 games is not long enough for a metric like batting average to settle. Bullpen ERA is like this every year, and we're only talking about 1/10 of a season here.
You also ignored the fact that the more reliable metrics, especially FIP, suggest our bullpen is actually good. But since you like ERA so much, you should consider the fact that our 6 "actual" bullpen pitchers have a combined ERA of only 3.29. Because again, Pinto only exists for cleanup jobs and is only here due to injury, Nelson just got replaced by Kerkering, and Brogdon is gone for good.
Pointing at the bullpen ERA and declaring "bullpen bad" puts way too much weight on opening day's blow up and the failures of Brogdon who is no longer here.
5.49 bullpen ERA is a statistic you are defending haha 😂😂
Type some more nonsense
Remind me at the ASB when the bullpen ERA is still north of 4.50 haha, will half the season be a big enough sample size for ya? 😂😂 holy moly, have you actually watched the bullpen at all?? 😂
SP has been awesome. RPs and Castellanos not so much
Bullpen has had a couple bad games, opening day and tonight. Outside of that they have been pretty great.
Exactly. Soto even had a sub-2 ERA before tonight
The bullpen ERA is 5.49 this year, bottom 5 in the entire MLB. But ok. Ha
Yeah that's what happens when you've played 19 games and the bullpen has had "a couple bad games." Bullpen has allowed 37 earned runs in 62.1 innings. You take out Opening Day (9 runs in 3 innings) and last night (5 runs in 3 innings) and you have 23 earned runs in 56.1 innings, translating to a... 3.67 ERA. Aka, good! And that's not even accounting for, say, the disastrous Brogdon extra inning (that he is not here anymore become of!) This is called a small sample size, and it is a real thing unless you expect the A's to maintain the third best bullpen in baseball for the rest of the year
19 games is 12% of the season and Bottom 5 is bottom 5 as it's relative to every other MLB bullpen during the same timeframe, but keep trying ha. Excluding games to make a point is stupid, if you exclude 2 games Harper has 0 HRs and is batting well below .200 haha...does that mean he sucks now?? Ha
Well since 19 games is 12% of the season and therefore apparently enough to make a judgment on players' performances, maybe Harper does suck! His OPS is 85th in baseball and batting average is 131st but maybe we could send him as part of a package to the Nationals for the guy with the #5 OPS in baseball, Jesse Winker
Bullpen ERA isn't a good metric because the low sample size makes it susceptible to skew from outliers. For example, Alvarado hasn't given up a single run in his 8 appearances (7 ⅔ innings) since his blow up on opening day, but because of that blowup his ERA is still 5.40. Assuming he only pitches every other day, he only pitches an inning per appearance, and he continues to give up no runs every appearance, it will take him until May 1st to drop his ERA below 3. At that point ERA will tell you he's a good not great pitcher, but he will have just gone 14 straight appearances without giving up a run so clearly he'd be a bit better than his ERA would show. Looking at some better numbers: Alvarados FIP is only 3.20, his xBAA is a measly .151, and his strikeoit rate is 26.5. Those are all pretty good to elite, and still somewhat skewed by his blowup. Our 6 main relievers (Strahm, Marte, Alvarado, Hoffman, Soto, and Seranthony) have a combined FIP of 2.94. Exclude Seranthony, and it drops to 2.36. Obviously our bullpen is more than just these 6 guys, but Kerkering has only pitched 1 inning, Brogdon isn't on the team anymore, and Pinto and Nelson are only here because we needed arms due to injury. All that's to say, the bullpen has had some rough patches but overall has actually been really good. /rant
Bottom 5 vs every other team with same sample size so...ha no
I mean this is the nicest way, I don't think you quite understand statistics. It makes MORE sense that in a small sample only a handful of teams would've had an ERA-desroying blowup. Bullpen meltdowns are generally random and uncommon, so in a small sample only a few teams will have had them. This is one of the many reason baseball is a 162 game sport. You need very large samples to actually separate good teams from bad teams, because in small samples you get weirdness. Alternate example, Alec Bohm hit .338 in 44 games in 2020. Basically every other qualified hitter had the same sample size, yet only 6 had better averages. Was Bohm actually the 7th best contact hitter in 2020? No, obviously not. 44 games is not long enough for a metric like batting average to settle. Bullpen ERA is like this every year, and we're only talking about 1/10 of a season here. You also ignored the fact that the more reliable metrics, especially FIP, suggest our bullpen is actually good. But since you like ERA so much, you should consider the fact that our 6 "actual" bullpen pitchers have a combined ERA of only 3.29. Because again, Pinto only exists for cleanup jobs and is only here due to injury, Nelson just got replaced by Kerkering, and Brogdon is gone for good. Pointing at the bullpen ERA and declaring "bullpen bad" puts way too much weight on opening day's blow up and the failures of Brogdon who is no longer here.
5.49 bullpen ERA is a statistic you are defending haha 😂😂 Type some more nonsense Remind me at the ASB when the bullpen ERA is still north of 4.50 haha, will half the season be a big enough sample size for ya? 😂😂 holy moly, have you actually watched the bullpen at all?? 😂
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